Lost, Season 2 - Page 32

rkmsuf · 04-13-2006, 09:01 AM

That episode sucked ballsacks. Worst one I can remember. Totally uninterested in the couples story and nothing happened until the last 2 minutes.

And it's starting to make almost no sense now. And 3 week hiatus.

sigh

DanGarion · 04-13-2006, 09:17 AM

I thought it was a good episode, not every episode should furthe main plot.

Swaggs · 04-13-2006, 12:06 PM

On the one hand, I liked the backstory and thought it was pretty well done. On the other hand, now we have another story branch going in another direction, with no end in sight.

Thomkal · 04-13-2006, 03:05 PM

I thought it was an Ok episode. Not much really happened in it to further the plot along with the exception of the return of Michael. I was happy to see Rose's and Bernard's backstory, but wasn't as caught up in it as most of the others. Did like the scene between Rose and Locke though.

Draft Dodger · 04-13-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I thought it was an Ok episode. Not much really happened in it to further the plot along with the exception of the return of Michael. I was happy to see Rose's and Bernard's backstory, but wasn't as caught up in it as most of the others. Did like the scene between Rose and Locke though.

++ to all of this.

Henry is a lot of fun. I already called the earlier twist with him (they'd find the wreckage...and then find out that he wasn't the real Henry). So I'll speculate here that Henry is not one of the others, mostly because they seem to be doing so much to make him appear to be. Why he's being deceptive about his past, I don't know, but I have a feeling he's going to turn out to be rather benign (maybe he's the missing button pusher?).

Has Harold Perrineau (Michael) been collecting paychecks all season to not be on the show? How many episodes did he miss? Did he even need to be in Hawaii during that time?

Speaking of spoilers, I think I stumbled across one today (or at least a hint of one) and I'm quite annoyed about it. It's dubious enough for me not to put a lot of stock in, but I hate having any advance info on the show. oh well.

rexallllsc · 04-13-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Kids these days... They just can't handle character development and a well-spun yard. Everything's gotta be zip! pow! bang! Now! Now! Now! I reckon MTV's to blame.

Not at all. I just think it's completely obvious what they're doing with this story (stretching time to sell ads). The only reason I watch is because my gf is/was into the show. I guess this is the problem some people had with JJ Abrams' other show.

The Bernard/Rose story, while cool, could've been explained without skimping in 4-5 minutes.

All that to tell us basically how they met, that Bernard is a man of action, that Rose is an emasculating b!tch, and that the island has some sort of force (duh!).

Raiders Army · 04-14-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rexallllsc

The Bernard/Rose story, while cool, could've been explained without skimping in 4-5 minutes.

All that to tell us basically how they met, that Bernard is a man of action, that Rose is an emasculating b!tch, and that the island has some sort of force (duh!).

Ummmm...this may be a little strange, but I disagree. I think every background story could be told in 4-5 minutes. I know I'm probably one of the most vocal people against the absolute slowness of this series, but I enjoyed Rose and Bernard's story a lot. Didn't a lot of us complain about another Hurley story or another Charlie story or (gasp!) yet another Jack story? At least we learned something about two people we haven't had a background on yet. Glass half full.

Even if it wasn't that, I think it explained things very well. I was a little confused as to why Rose wouldn't hope they would be rescued...especially since she held out her hope that Bernard would be okay just after the crash. It didn't seem consistent within her character; however, after the story played out, it made her actions seem very plausible. I don't think you could do that within 4-5 minutes.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good episode and much better than the previous ones so far.

DanGarion · 04-15-2006, 11:22 AM

Possible spoiler on the numbers.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/index.html#a0009993957

And a funny comment.

"All the numbers are also retired Yankee's jersey numbers.

And they add up to 108 which is the number of stitches on a baseball. And the number of beads on a rosary.

The numbers have no basis in reality, they pulled some random numbers, perhaps for all we know, FROM the yankee's retired jersey list, just because they needed 6 numbers. "

ThunderingHERD · 04-15-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dangarion

Possible spoiler on the numbers.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/index.html#a0009993957

It's pretty funny that the guy who wrote that is convinced that he's uncovered anything, let alone enough to justify this statement: "I'm kind of sad now that I have solved it, no more mystery."

" The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 are points along the Becker-Hagens Planetary Grid System." Yeh, so are the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14...

The only way to that grid looks even remotely interesting is because 42 is in the ocean near Australia. But it's in the Indian Ocean--a flight to LA would be going in the opposite direction.

Doc Jensen(linked in that article) has some pretty solid spoiler-free Lost theories, though.

OldGiants · 04-16-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderingHERD

The only way to that grid looks even remotely interesting is because 42 is in the ocean near Australia. But it's in the Indian Ocean--a flight to LA would be going in the opposite direction.

Except the plane turned around to go to back to Sydney and then flew way off course. I seem to remember '1000 miles off course' as what the dying pilot mentioned. It could have been more than that. Does anyone remember? So the Indian Ocean would not be far-fetched. And much closer to Eko's African cocaine plane take-off point. A twin engine Beechcraft (or whatever) going from Africa to the mid-Pacific--even with refueling--strikes me as less possible than the Lost Island being in the Indian Ocean.

Also, mark me down as thinking Not-The-Henry is An Other, in the sense that the Others are not the Dharma project people. The Others are other people who have washed up/crashed on the island over the years--some before Dharma, others after. Not-The-Henry has had run-ins with both groups and fears the Dharma folks the most. He does have some knowledge of the Big Secret, but is keeping it to himself because he trusts no one.

He also does not know Walt and has never met the boy. He heard Jack say the name Walt as a potential trade and simply used the name to mess with Jack's head, much like he's messing with Locke and the numbers. He likely genuinely believes there's no possibility of a trade, but wants Jack to think he, Not-The-Henry, knows much more than he does. He vacilliates between saying he knows stuff and messing with the Losties because that's the kind of nasty little sh*t he is. But he knows nothing of Walt except as a name Jack used.

OldGiants · 04-16-2006, 12:29 PM

I enjoyed seeing Scorpius from Farscape (Wayne Pygram) as Isaac Urulu, the healer Rose went to. I closed my eyes to listen to his voice. Very creepy, in the way Scorpius was when he was in Ben Brower's head. If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch the Farscape reruns on WGN.

On the boring versus interesting debate, I'm going to pontificate a bit.

There are two basic ways of telling a story, plot-driven and character-driven. I broadly call these 'action-thrillers' (plot) and Romance stories (character). Most folks prefer one to the other.

Now LOST starts out with a plane crash, monsters and mysteries. This a classic 'thriller' plot development. Those of us who like this expect fast action, fights, and plot twists. If LOST were a movie, it could have been done in 2 1/2 hours, like the Bourne Idenity or Jurassic Park. However, LOST will be at least 66 hours of TV (three seasons) and the network wants those who prefer character-based stories (I'll call this group 'women' for lack of a better term) to watch, too. So we get back stories and love interests, despite those story lines having little bearing on the main plot of what's going on.

So the very success of LOST makes its plot-driven basis impossible. It would already be over if they stuck to the main mystery. Thus, like all long-term TV, it becomes soap opera. There is simply no other way to stretch it out.

What all this means is, there is going to be lots more 'character' padding along the way. The best we can hope for is interesting back stories that mention the magnetism of Ayers Rock and Bernard picking up black rocks and Locke seeing things on lock-down doors and Not-The-Henry lying in interesting ways. The story is unfolding very slowly because it has to follow TV rhythm, not movies.

Raiders Army · 04-16-2006, 03:40 PM

It would be weird if the series were 108 episodes and the writers had that idea in the beginning.

jbmagic · 04-26-2006, 10:34 AM

Lost News:

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'Lost' Actress Chooses Jail Over Service
Tuesday April 25 6:05 PM ET

"Lost" actress Michelle Rodriguez pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a single count of driving under the influence, choosing to pay a $500 fine and spend five days in jail rather than do 240 hours of community service.

Rodriguez, who portrays police officer Ana Lucia, and cast member Cynthia Watros were both charged with drunken driving after they were pulled over Dec. 1 in separate cars within 15 minutes of each other.

On Tuesday, a judge gave Rodriguez the option of jail time or community service.

She was to surrender to authorities at Kaneohe District Court later in the day.

Watros, who plays Libby on the ABC castaway drama, pleaded guilty to drunken driving in January and was fined $312, ordered to undergo an alcohol assessment and 14 hours of counseling. She also had her license suspended for 90 days.

Both Rodriguez and Watros were spotted weaving on a road in Kailua, on the island of Oahu, where "Lost" is filmed. Both failed field sobriety tests.

Rodriguez recorded a blood-alcohol level of 0.17, more than twice the legal limit of .08. Watros had a blood-alcohol level of 0.10.

In 2004, Rodriguez pleaded no contest in Los Angeles to three traffic violations, including drunken driving. She completed a three-month alcohol program and is serving a three-year probation term.

Swaggs · 04-26-2006, 10:46 AM

Do we have a new episode tonight?

Draft Dodger · 04-26-2006, 10:48 AM

next week, I think. then it's 4 in a row to the end of season.

don't quote me on that.

John Galt · 04-26-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

next week, I think. then it's 4 in a row to the end of season.

don't quote me on that.

.

Burn!

jbmagic · 04-26-2006, 10:51 AM

Tonight episode is a recap of season 2 so far. There going to show highlights.

gottimd · 04-26-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Tonight episode is a recap of season 2 so far. There going to show highlights.

According to TV guide its new.

John Galt · 04-26-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

According to TV guide its new.

Recap episodes are always "new" because the recap has never been aired. I hate recaps.

BrianD · 04-26-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Recap episodes are always "new" because the recap has never been aired. I hate recaps.

Recap episodes are useless. If a person cares about the show, he/she will record them and never recap. If a person doesn't care about the show, a recap won't make him/her care.

Raiders Army · 04-26-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Recap episodes are always "new" because the recap has never been aired. I hate recaps.

ditto. Waste of good time.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 01:28 PM

Plane crashes. Weird conincidences happen. Walt disappears. Michael yells.

Recap over.

Bearcat729 · 04-26-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Do we have a new episode tonight?

I like to check this site to find out the answer

http://www.islostarepeat.com/

Raiders Army · 04-26-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Plane crashes. Weird conincidences happen. Walt disappears. Michael yells. Claire has baby. Baby gets stolen. Claire yells.

Recap over.

Fixed it for ya.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Fixed it for ya.

ohh, and hurley eats

Raiders Army · 04-26-2006, 02:21 PM

No doubt.

Swaggs · 04-26-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat729

I like to check this site to find out the answer

http://www.islostarepeat.com/

Is that for real? I mean, they could never update the site and it would be accurate like 75% of the time.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

No doubt.

Kewl, the Gwen Stafani guest star episode a la the Gilligan's Island Harlem Globetrotters...only kewler.

Raiders Army · 04-26-2006, 02:27 PM

And hotter.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

And hotter.

why couldn't they have crashed on an island inhabited by hot chicks instead of others

and how come there is nobody playing with themself. I watch Jarhead and the guy is wanking every 5 minutes. Nobody on this island goes to the bathroom either.

gottimd · 04-26-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Nobody on this island goes to the bathroom either.

its just like 24, no one ever poops.

Oh wait, didn't hurley poop in like season 1.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

its just like 24, no one ever poops.

Oh wait, didn't hurley poop in like season 1.

I don't recall hurley feces.

I mean one day I can buy. 4 months? That's just cooky talk.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:44 PM

wtf, does the hatch even have a toilet? and if so what if they need a plumber? and where does the shower water come from?

ice4277 · 04-26-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

wtf, does the hatch even have a toilet? and if so what if they need a plumber? and where does the shower water come from?

The castaways are all too busy not talking to each other about important things to think about things like this.

Bearcat729 · 04-26-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Is that for real? I mean, they could never update the site and it would be accurate like 75% of the time.

You could check again next week, but I have seen it change to no for new episodes.

gottimd · 04-26-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

wtf, does the hatch even have a toilet? and if so what if they need a plumber? and where does the shower water come from?

The Ocean is one big toilet.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

The Ocean is one big toilet.

How about menstration. They need these hard hitting issues.

rkmsuf · 04-26-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277

The castaways are all too busy not talking to each other about important things to think about things like this.

Every time I watch I am amazed at the lack of communication and teamwork. It's like they are all going for the same promotion and not STRANDED on some island.

SFL Cat · 04-26-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

wtf, does the hatch even have a toilet? and if so what if they need a plumber? and where does the shower water come from?

If you ever watched Gilligan's Island, you would know the answers to ALL of these questions.

rexallllsc · 04-26-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ice4277

The castaways are all too busy not talking to each other about important things to think about things like this.

"Oh yeah, we found another hatch with a fake beard"

Writing has been miserable this year.

rkmsuf · 04-27-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SFL Cat

If you ever watched Gilligan's Island, you would know the answers to ALL of these questions.

yeah but they had the professor. that guy was a genius.

jackyl · 05-03-2006, 05:40 PM

I've always wanted to bump this thread...

Anyway, new show tonight. Matter of fact, new shows every Wednesday night for the rest of the season.

From wikipedia:

Two for the Road
Announced air date: May 3, 2006
Flashback: Ana-Lucia Cortez
Written by: Elizabeth Sarnoff & Christina M. Kim
Directed by: Paul Edwards
This episode is yet to be aired. The official description for this episode, as found on ABC Medianet website is: Jack and Kate bring an exhausted Michael back to the camp, and with him, news about "The Others." Meanwhile, Ana Lucia attempts to get the prisoner to confess, and Hurley plans a surprise date for Libby.

Check out hxxp://www.thehansofoundation.org by the way.

kingfc22 · 05-03-2006, 06:30 PM

Finally caught up. Of course all the repeats made it fairly easy to do.

I really hope they listen to the fans and run the series straight through ala 24.

Sublime 2 · 05-03-2006, 08:54 PM

Love the Hanso "commerical!"

mckerney · 05-03-2006, 09:03 PM

Um, wow.

At least Michael's doing something other than screaming "Walt!"

Bearcat729 · 05-03-2006, 09:03 PM

The number rings busy right now.

The moral for tonights episode is not to drink and drive folks.

Sublime 2 · 05-03-2006, 09:06 PM

Ummm, Knights of Columbus!

Easy Mac · 05-03-2006, 09:21 PM

Holy fucking shit. The first 40 minutes was alright, but the last 5... fuck beans...

Draft Dodger · 05-03-2006, 09:41 PM

well, that was interesting

flounder · 05-03-2006, 09:41 PM

Lots of new stuff up at http://thehansofoundation.org

04-13-2006, 09:01 AM	#1551
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	That episode sucked ballsacks. Worst one I can remember. Totally uninterested in the couples story and nothing happened until the last 2 minutes. And it's starting to make almost no sense now. And 3 week hiatus. sigh __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-13-2006, 09:17 AM	#1552
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	I thought it was a good episode, not every episode should furthe main plot. __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

04-13-2006, 12:06 PM	#1553
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	On the one hand, I liked the backstory and thought it was pretty well done. On the other hand, now we have another story branch going in another direction, with no end in sight. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-15-2006, 11:22 AM	#1558
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Possible spoiler on the numbers. http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/index.html#a0009993957 And a funny comment. "All the numbers are also retired Yankee's jersey numbers. And they add up to 108 which is the number of stitches on a baseball. And the number of beads on a rosary. The numbers have no basis in reality, they pulled some random numbers, perhaps for all we know, FROM the yankee's retired jersey list, just because they needed 6 numbers. " __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO! Last edited by DanGarion : 04-15-2006 at 11:25 AM.

04-16-2006, 12:29 PM	#1561
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	I enjoyed seeing Scorpius from Farscape (Wayne Pygram) as Isaac Urulu, the healer Rose went to. I closed my eyes to listen to his voice. Very creepy, in the way Scorpius was when he was in Ben Brower's head. If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch the Farscape reruns on WGN. On the boring versus interesting debate, I'm going to pontificate a bit. There are two basic ways of telling a story, plot-driven and character-driven. I broadly call these 'action-thrillers' (plot) and Romance stories (character). Most folks prefer one to the other. Now LOST starts out with a plane crash, monsters and mysteries. This a classic 'thriller' plot development. Those of us who like this expect fast action, fights, and plot twists. If LOST were a movie, it could have been done in 2 1/2 hours, like the Bourne Idenity or Jurassic Park. However, LOST will be at least 66 hours of TV (three seasons) and the network wants those who prefer character-based stories (I'll call this group 'women' for lack of a better term) to watch, too. So we get back stories and love interests, despite those story lines having little bearing on the main plot of what's going on. So the very success of LOST makes its plot-driven basis impossible. It would already be over if they stuck to the main mystery. Thus, like all long-term TV, it becomes soap opera. There is simply no other way to stretch it out. What all this means is, there is going to be lots more 'character' padding along the way. The best we can hope for is interesting back stories that mention the magnetism of Ayers Rock and Bernard picking up black rocks and Locke seeing things on lock-down doors and Not-The-Henry lying in interesting ways. The story is unfolding very slowly because it has to follow TV rhythm, not movies. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

04-13-2006, 03:05 PM	#1554
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I thought it was an Ok episode. Not much really happened in it to further the plot along with the exception of the return of Michael. I was happy to see Rose's and Bernard's backstory, but wasn't as caught up in it as most of the others. Did like the scene between Rose and Locke though.

04-16-2006, 03:40 PM	#1562
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	It would be weird if the series were 108 episodes and the writers had that idea in the beginning.

04-26-2006, 10:46 AM	#1564
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Do we have a new episode tonight? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-26-2006, 10:48 AM	#1565
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	next week, I think. then it's 4 in a row to the end of season. don't quote me on that. __________________ Mile High Hockey

04-26-2006, 10:51 AM	#1567
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Tonight episode is a recap of season 2 so far. There going to show highlights.

04-26-2006, 01:28 PM	#1572
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Plane crashes. Weird conincidences happen. Walt disappears. Michael yells. Recap over. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

04-26-2006, 02:21 PM	#1576
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	No doubt.

04-26-2006, 02:27 PM	#1579
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	And hotter.

04-26-2006, 02:44 PM	#1583
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	wtf, does the hatch even have a toilet? and if so what if they need a plumber? and where does the shower water come from? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

05-03-2006, 05:40 PM	#1592
jackyl H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Apr 2005	I've always wanted to bump this thread... Anyway, new show tonight. Matter of fact, new shows every Wednesday night for the rest of the season. From wikipedia: Two for the Road Announced air date: May 3, 2006 Flashback: Ana-Lucia Cortez Written by: Elizabeth Sarnoff & Christina M. Kim Directed by: Paul Edwards This episode is yet to be aired. The official description for this episode, as found on ABC Medianet website is: Jack and Kate bring an exhausted Michael back to the camp, and with him, news about "The Others." Meanwhile, Ana Lucia attempts to get the prisoner to confess, and Hurley plans a surprise date for Libby. Check out hxxp://www.thehansofoundation.org by the way. Last edited by jackyl : 05-03-2006 at 05:41 PM.

05-03-2006, 06:30 PM	#1593
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Finally caught up. Of course all the repeats made it fairly easy to do. I really hope they listen to the fans and run the series straight through ala 24. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-03-2006, 08:54 PM	#1594
Sublime 2 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Hampshire	Love the Hanso "commerical!"

05-03-2006, 09:03 PM	#1595
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Um, wow. At least Michael's doing something other than screaming "Walt!"

05-03-2006, 09:03 PM	#1596
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	The number rings busy right now. The moral for tonights episode is not to drink and drive folks.

05-03-2006, 09:06 PM	#1597
Sublime 2 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Hampshire	Ummm, Knights of Columbus!

05-03-2006, 09:21 PM	#1598
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Holy fucking shit. The first 40 minutes was alright, but the last 5... fuck beans...

05-03-2006, 09:41 PM	#1599
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	well, that was interesting __________________ Mile High Hockey

05-03-2006, 09:41 PM	#1600
flounder High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lynchburg, VA	Lots of new stuff up at http://thehansofoundation.org

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