WW LXVII -- The Return of Divination Nation! (GAME OVER STUDENTS WIN!!!)

[claphamsa]

wow a rum runner
ahahahha
hahahah

[claphamsa]

so we have 3 for rummy
3 for DC
and 2 for mau.... I was never sold on mau, and even thouhg I loath rum...

unvote mau
vote dc

theres always tommroow mau old bean!

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by bsak16

My next vote is leaning to go to Dodgerchick. If you read back, she stayed away from Cronin today and in the past few days was another person that was really adamant about believing these scans and pushing Cronin's theories.

Well no one else has made a case for anyone else. CR has been goofy but I think that is just his character.

VOTE DODGERCHICK

[Lorena]

I don't know if Chief is good or bad, but this is obviously out of self-preserverance:

unvote clap
vote chief rum

when i come up villager, the people who voted for me after heinz should be carefully looked at. RendeR has voted for all villagers (including yours truly) and clap has made some pretty spotty votes.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I don't know if Chief is good or bad, but this is obviously out of self-preserverance:

unvote clap
vote chief rum

when i come up villager, the people who voted for me after heinz should be carefully looked at. RendeR has voted for all villagers (including yours truly) and clap has made some pretty spotty votes.

let's try this again

unvote clap
vote chief rum

[Dr. Sak]

Good point about RendeR...DC

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I don't know if Chief is good or bad, but this is obviously out of self-preserverance:

unvote clap
vote chief rum

when i come up villager, the people who voted for me after heinz should be carefully looked at. RendeR has voted for all villagers (including yours truly) and clap has made some pretty spotty votes.

With the exception of a few of us who got onto cronin this morning haven't all of us seemingly all voted for villagers? Granted we don't know about a couple of votes here and there, but for the most part I believe all of us have pretty bad voting records.

DC I don't believe you're a wolf, but I hope you are since if you are then I think mau is one as well, and if that's true we've basically won the game. So I can certainly understand the people voting for you.

But I like my guy a lot more. I can't remember ever feeling as good about two votes on a day as I do about first cronin and now Rum.

[RendeR]

Hey I freely admit I've voted for villagers, but I had reasons for every vote at the time. I can't help it if I'm wrong =)

[Lorena]

I'll be here at deadline, no doubt about it.

[mauchow]

What's the score?

[oliegirl]

VOTE CHIEF RUM

DC and Mau have both pinged my radar, but DC's defense of nfg eases off that a little for me, and Chief's weird voting on N2 was just to bizarre to ignore.

[mauchow]

I only ask because I think CR needs to go before DC. That's just me. I'd try to find some information on why to vote CR than DC. I know I scanned DC as a wolf but I firmly believe that my scan wasn't for real as I have a better feeling about DC being a villager than CR.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

CR - 0/2/1 - no n3 scan

FYI...

Review post #1337. I was the first to reveal my N3 scan.

[claphamsa]

so its 5 - 5 DC and Rummy?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yeah, her gameplay screams wolf to me, but 6 good scans out of 7 makes it hard. I mean that's a lot of dodged scans if she's a wolf. Granted, the one who did hit on her as a wolf was Lathum, who I can assume wasn't lying about it at all, since we know he was good.

FYI, I just now saw CR's note that he scanned RendeR, so make that 2 good out of 2 for him. Only missing RendeR's n3 scan result now.

lol...oh, okay, you found it.

[mauchow]

You're more LEET than I thought, Rum!

[mauchow]

And I'll explain the joke if need be.

[claphamsa]

yes do

[RendeR]

Vote Count?

[claphamsa]

5 -5 i think

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I thought you were married? err mean Dead

It's okay, his girlfriend saldana is dead, too.

[RendeR]

Thank you.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

It's okay, his girlfriend saldana is dead, too.

*Cackles!*

[Lathum]

lol

[Pumpy Tudors]

I'm starting to get a bit leery of the people who have been generally quiet throughout the game. The wolves are trying to play us against each other, obviously, and that means that they can assign a couple of wolves to sit back and not really say anything. I'm pretty much picking somebody at random because I'm not sure about Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. I am not prepared to make a deciding vote here. I'd rather leave it to a tiebreaker, but I want to cast a spotlight on somebody else for a change.

VOTE MIKEVIC

[Dr. Sak]

Do you realize this is exactly why CR is being voted on...because he took the easy way out in a close vote?

[claphamsa]

throwing your vote away in a tie?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

JH: It's not just the N0 bit. It's also his ducking from a close vote on D2.

Assuming you're talking about me, did you note that exactly what I said would happen did? That BOTH Lathum and nfg22 were going to end up villagers? Those are the two candidates that night. I said I didn't think either was a wolf and refused to hang them.

If I were a wolf, I would have known without a doubt they were both villagers. Why would I not just choose to hang one or the other? In the long run, both sets of voters look bad, because both nfg22 and Lathum are villagers. It would be far more eye-catching to not vote for either, bringing a ton of attention on myself.

Why on Earth would I (as a hypothetical wolf) put that kinda target on myself on N2?

Another thing, I did a ton of work doing the stats bit, and kept track of scans for two days before yesterday's two-job day stopped me. Recall when have I ever done that much work as a wolf?

I'm not a wolf. I have even come up good in 7 of 8 scans (I think) by different people. I'm sure you'll toss on the whole wolf manipulation theory, but come on, there are at most five wolves, and we know one is cronin (the only one who scanned me as a wolf, strangely enough, and who was coming after me pretty hard since D1), and by your theory, I am another and of course have not scanned myself. How much manipulation do you think is going on on one person? Even with three other wolves lying (going by your theory), that is four student scans on me. There's only a 6% chance of four villagers (assuming average 50% accuracy) all scanning a wolfy me as a villager.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Well, I don't really want to call it a throwaway. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't seen a compelling reason to pick one over the other. I'm around for the next 15 minutes. If someone can convince me, I'll gladly pick Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. At this point, I just want to point out that there are some quiet people around who may need to be looked at.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

The thing about CR though, is like I've said earlier today (I think): he was seen as a wolf by cronin AND voted on early by cronin. I'm confused by those two things.

If you realize I am a student, it becomes less confusing.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Well, I don't really want to call it a throwaway. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't seen a compelling reason to pick one over the other. I'm around for the next 15 minutes. If someone can convince me, I'll gladly pick Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. At this point, I just want to point out that there are some quiet people around who may need to be looked at.

7 of 7 scans on CR have been good..... (discouting Cronin) the odds of him being bad with all those good scans are... remote!

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Well, I don't really want to call it a throwaway. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't seen a compelling reason to pick one over the other. I'm around for the next 15 minutes. If someone can convince me, I'll gladly pick Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. At this point, I just want to point out that there are some quiet people around who may need to be looked at.

My reasoning for picking Dodgerchick was her close affiliation with Cronin. She was buying into his theories about lynching people (no matter good or bad) based on the number of scans.

Chief seems to be forthcoming with all his information and as he said...if he was a wolf why wouldn't he want to get rid of nfg or Lathum since he would've known they were villagers. Chief might be a fool but I think his intentions are good.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

You're more LEET than I thought, Rum!

Well, I have been around long enough to have been considered part of the elitist crowd of FOC in the old days, circa two years after Sideline days. That what you mean? Wow, how I miss that black and green message board.

okay, not really.

[Lorena]

This should be fun.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Is there anyone who hasn't voted yet?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm starting to get a bit leery of the people who have been generally quiet throughout the game. The wolves are trying to play us against each other, obviously, and that means that they can assign a couple of wolves to sit back and not really say anything. I'm pretty much picking somebody at random because I'm not sure about Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. I am not prepared to make a deciding vote here. I'd rather leave it to a tiebreaker, but I want to cast a spotlight on somebody else for a change.

VOTE MIKEVIC

Heh...

Personally, I wouldn't change my D1/N2 vote, as I feel the results have confirmed I was correct about both Lathum and nfg22.

That said, not sure I would recommend this route for anyone else.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Is there anyone who hasn't voted yet?

Strangely enough, I haven't.

[claphamsa]

hmmm. very odd..

[oliegirl]

OK, rum's defense is pretty damn good and has me thinking. If he was a wolf, he would have known that Lathum and NFG were villagers, so why didn't he vote for them???? I'm still not convinced of DC being a wolf b/c she defended nfg, a known student, pretty vehemently. Which leaves Mau.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

hmmm. very odd..

Not really. I just finally got to the end of the thread. I am relishing in the suspense...

Okay, fine...pure self-preservation. I'm not as sure as some others about DC (although I can see it). But her wolfishness, of course, has nothing to do with my vote.

VOTE DODGERCHICK

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

OK, rum's defense is pretty damn good and has me thinking. If he was a wolf, he would have known that Lathum and NFG were villagers, so why didn't he vote for them???? I'm still not convinced of DC being a wolf b/c she defended nfg, a known student, pretty vehemently. Which leaves Mau.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

If I wasn't voting self-preservation, mau would be my vote right now.

[MikeVic]

I'm here, sorry was away after work. What's the vote totals?

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I'm starting to get a bit leery of the people who have been generally quiet throughout the game. The wolves are trying to play us against each other, obviously, and that means that they can assign a couple of wolves to sit back and not really say anything. I'm pretty much picking somebody at random because I'm not sure about Chief Rum or Dodgerchick. I am not prepared to make a deciding vote here. I'd rather leave it to a tiebreaker, but I want to cast a spotlight on somebody else for a change.

VOTE MIKEVIC

I thought I've been pretty vocal in the strategies presented and trying to figure out who to vote for.

[claphamsa]

dc has one more than CR

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

dc has one more than CR

How many does Mau have? Any?

[claphamsa]

maybe 7-6?

[claphamsa]

not really, maybe 2?

[MikeVic]

Yeah I was wondering about mau too. I think I mentioned a bit ago that I wasn't comfortable with either CR or DC. What happens in a tie?

[claphamsa]

dont think we know

[MikeVic]

Heh alright. This is a tough one.