Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[ntndeacon]

I was actually struggling between the two of them as well. I think part of the problem we have so many potential wolves those that are suspicious split us contrary to the common view held by the wolves...(I am assuming they can talk normally)

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

In order, I'm torn between Telle-CR (and probably prefer Telle but the last two games I've played with her she's been a wolf and that is probably coloring that some) and then Jackal, so he's the #3 choice for me right now.

Just curious, why am I your third choice?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I think that telle, NFG, and NTN are good choices as well.

Jackal, I also think these are good choices. I'm not sure on you or anything, but if I had my druthers, I would rather go wit hone of them. My vote needs to be on you for self defense, though. I don't have any way of proving to you I am not a member of the Conspriacy (but then that goes for yuo as well).

My voting record is hardly something you can cconclude anything from at this point. My Day One vote was a vote I openly admitted I had nothign for because I lacked the time to read up on the thread that day, and only voted for KWhit to get a third candidate involved. I had no idea DT would also throw his weight behind that vote.

My other two votes are both self-defense.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Jackal, I also think these are good choices. I'm not sure on you or anything, but if I had my druthers, I would rather go wit hone of them. My vote needs to be on you for self defense, though. I don't have any way of proving to you I am not a member of the Conspriacy (but then that goes for yuo as well).

My voting record is hardly something you can cconclude anything from at this point. My Day One vote was a vote I openly admitted I had nothign for because I lacked the time to read up on the thread that day, and only voted for KWhit to get a third candidate involved. I had no idea DT would also throw his weight behind that vote.

My other two votes are both self-defense.

I feel like NFG is a good choice, I don't have as good a feeling about him being a wolf that I do on you, but they are just feelings, so if we can be agreed on moving to him (or Telle, who I feel is a better target), I can move off of you for now, maybe give some people the chance to scan one or both of us.

[DaddyTorgo]

telle is an "ok" choice - she is MT right now, I will say that. jackal is making me more suspicious with the "i'll just give up" thing - that's such a wolfish type of play.

jackal - if you do die I will explain to you in PM.

I have said all along - the NI's are fair game though. that's jackal, ntn, chief rum, eaglefan, thomkal, and a couple others that I am forgetting cuz my list is in the car. hopefully leaving the cape here in a few minutes. intendto vote when I get home.

mapquest bourne ma to wellesley ma if you want to figure how long that will be.

sorry if we lynch a good-guy ni but sometimes you gotta take one for the team

[PurdueBrad]

If DT says Telle is okay, I'll make that move. I'm out for a while, hope this helps.

unvote CR
vote Telle

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I feel like NFG is a good choice, I don't have as good a feeling about him being a wolf that I do on you, but they are just feelings, so if we can be agreed on moving to him (or Telle, who I feel is a better target), I can move off of you for now, maybe give some people the chance to scan one or both of us.

Actually I prefer Telle, too. I always get a little buggy about her, I admit, because in just about every game we play together, she comes to the conclusion I am wolf (regardless of the truth) and screams it to high heavens. Every now and then is okay, but every game, it gets a little tiring.

And besides she pings me a lot as a wolf, and that was even before Danny's analysis. Plus, unlike nfg, she doesn't have a hint of support from DT, I don't believe. So I can switch to Telle.

In fact, I will, and I hope you will follow suit. And, yes, hopefully, a scan is coming in the near future (although I would be pretty surprised if I haven't beens canned already).

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE TELLE

[Danny]

I'm in class, vote count?

Also, Jackal, this is werewolf, people vote for you, it happens. Your take the ball and go home attitude doesn't help us.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Any thoughts on Pass guys?

Day 1 he has a throw away vote on a known villager (BrianD)
Day 2 he brings up the idea that Alan's vote counts for double...which turns out to be true after he is killed by the wolves...however DT and path have claimed to be the the advisors so what would make Pass think this?
He also was the one to drop the hammer on clap over PB.

Posting as I go along, but I had the same conclusion as Pass as Alan knew we had an extra vote and basically said I can't tell you why.

[Schmidty]

I'm surprised that I'm not under more suspiciouv.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Danny

I'm in class, vote count?

Also, Jackal, this is werewolf, people vote for you, it happens. Your take the ball and go home attitude doesn't help us.

No but it's not hurting anyone. And it makes me feel a little better.

[The Jackal]

unvote CR

vote telle

[Danny]

And Jackal I dont have the vote count, so don't know if you're right there for lynch votes, buy if you are, why not use your power and prove yourself if you are possibly going down.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

And Jackal I dont have the vote count, so don't know if you're right there for lynch votes, buy if you are, why not use your power and prove yourself if you are possibly going down.

I think Telle's in front now.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I'm surprised that I'm not under more suspiciouv.

Do you want to be?

[Barkeep49]

As of 1569

Autumn: nfg (1132 9:42 pm)
Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) ntn (1548 7:11 pm) CR (1561 7:30 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) Jackal (1566 7:34)
nfg: King (1418, 2:34 PM)
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)
Chief Rum: Telle (1428 2:58 pm)

[Danny]

If Jackal is not a wolf, I find Thomkal's jump onto Jackal as the second candidate quite interesting. Probably too late for that. I am ok with Telle too, but the run on her has me a little worried.

[Danny]

I thimk my vote will tip it for Telle, any last arguments?

[kingfc22]

Just caught up...Going to go work on the voting record

[ntndeacon]

my only thought and yes I am on her, is we are killing a mt before a ni.

[Danny]

Alright *fingers crossed*

Vote Telle

[ntndeacon]

probably the right move. we needed to lynch someone.

[Danny]

Unvote Telle
Vote Chief Rum

[Danny]

Not sure if that matters, but I got some PM info about this

[Chief Rum]

That's 7 votes of 19, right? Unless EF and BrianD don't count.

7/19 = 36.8% (FWIW, 8/19 = 42.1%)
7/17 (if EF and Brian don't count) = 41.1%

[Danny]

I got some PM info and am trusting someone with that vote.

[ntndeacon]

well 6 now

[Danny]

I'd like to see some more heat on CR here

[Danny]

I'm noticing King, Thomkal here in the thread now. If CR is a wolf, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two others are here not doing or saying anything.

[Passacaglia]

Wow, go away for a while and a lot changes. Danny, can you elaborate?

[Chief Rum]

Okay, so what's the deal. Why the heat on me now?

[Danny]

Guys, lynch CR, if I am wrong for trusting this person, go ahead and lynch me.

[ntndeacon]

ok I will bite. I still think Telle should be kept under watchful eyes. But CR is another of whom I have doubts.
Unvote Telle
Vote CR

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Wow, go away for a while and a lot changes. Danny, can you elaborate?

Someone PMed me telling me he was a wolf with absolute certainty. I believe this person is telling me the truth.

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, a ton does change.

Danny, do you mean they did this from some ability or role (seer or something)?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Danny

And Jackal I dont have the vote count, so don't know if you're right there for lynch votes, buy if you are, why not use your power and prove yourself if you are possibly going down.

It doesn't prove that I'm good, just that I'm telling the truth about my ability.

[Thomkal]

Funny how this came up Danny just as Telle was getting enough votes to be lynched.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Wow, a ton does change.

Danny, do you mean they did this from some ability or role (seer or something)?

They did not say exactly, but it is a person I tend to believe.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Someone PMed me telling me he was a wolf with absolute certainty. I believe this person is telling me the truth.

Okay, so how can I respond to this? Some person who won't come out in public that you're using your judgment on as being truthful, and that's how the basis under which you want to see me lynched?

I am not a wolf. No, I don't have anyway to prove it. But lynching me is a mistake. There are plenty of logical reasons to lynch the other candidates we have put up. If I am going to get lynched, I would like to know why.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Funny how this came up Danny just as Telle was getting enough votes to be lynched.

And if this is true, we know of another wolf in addition to Telle. I don't think the person who PM'ed is a wolf, but if CR is not, then this person must be. If this is wrong, I will give up the person who PM'ed me.

[Danny]

In fact, I can probably name us two additional wolves if this person is lying.

[kingfc22]

DAY 3
(1114) DT vote Autumn – Autumn 1
(1116) PB vote Autumn – Autumn 2
(1118) Danny vote Autumn – Autumn 3
(1120) CR vote Autumn – Autumn 4
(1124) EF vote Autumn – Autumn 5
(1127) ISiddiqui vote Autumn – Autumn 6
(1132) nfg vote Autumn – Autumn 7
(1144) UNVOTE CR off Autumn – Autumn 6
(1118) UNVOTE Danny off Autumn – Autumn 5
(1157) Danny vote Autumn – Autumn 6
(1171) UNVOTE DT off Autumn – Autumn 5
(1182) Danny vote Autumn – Autumn 4
(1183) UNVOTE EF off Autumn – Autumn 3
(1237) ALAN is killed>>
(1347) path vote PB – Autumn 3, PB 1
(1350) Autumn vote nfg - Autumn 3, PB 1, nfg 1
(1383) UNVOTE ISiddiqui off Autumn – Autumn 2, PB 1, nfg 1
(1384) UNVOTE PB off Autumn - Autumn 1, PB 1, nfg 1
(1405) Danny vote nfg – nfg 2, Autumn 1, PB 1
(1411) Thomkal vote jackal – nfg 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, jackal 1
(1417) PB vote nfg - nfg 3, Autumn 1, PB 1, jackal 1
(1418) king vote nfg - nfg 4, Autumn 1, PB 1, jackal 1
(1419) jackal vote nfg - nfg 5, Autumn 1, PB 1, jackal 1
(1425) pass vote jackal - nfg 5, jackal 2, Autumn 1, PB 1
(1428) telle vote CR - nfg 5, jackal 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1
(1450) UNVOTE Autumn off nfg - nfg 4, jackal 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1
(1450) Autumn vote Danny - nfg 4, jackal 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1, Danny 1
(1463) UNVOTE Danny off nfg - nfg 3, jackal 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1, Danny 1
(1465) ISiddiqui vote jackal - nfg 3, jackal 3, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1, Danny 1
(1468) Danny vote jackal - jackal 4, nfg 3, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1, Danny 1
(1475) UNVOTE jackal off nfg - jackal 4, nfg 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1, Danny 1
(1475) jackal vote danny - jackal 4, nfg 2, Danny 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1
(1495) UNVOTE Danny off jackal - jackal 3, nfg 2, Danny 2, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1
(1498) UNVOTE jackal off danny - jackal 3, nfg 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, PB 1, CR 1
(1502) UNVOTE path off PB - jackal 3, nfg 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, CR 1
(1502) path vote telle - jackal 3, nfg 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, CR 1, telle 1
(1511) jackal vote CR - jackal 3, nfg 2, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, telle 1
(1515) saldana vote telle - jackal 3, nfg 2, CR 2, telle 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1
(1536) CR vote jackal - jackal 4, nfg 2, CR 2, telle 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1
(1547) UNVOTE pass off nfg - jackal 4, CR 2, telle 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1547) pass vote CR - jackal 4, CR 3, telle 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1548) ntn vote telle - jackal 4, CR 3, telle 3, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1560) UNVOTE PB off CR - jackal 4, telle 3, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1560) PB vote telle - jackal 4, telle 4, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1561) UNVOTE CR off jackal - telle 4, jackal 3, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1561) CR vote telle - telle 5, jackal 3, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1566) UNVOTE jackal off CR - telle 5, jackal 3, CR 1, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1566) jackal vote telle - telle 6, jackal 3, CR 1, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1575) danny vote telle - telle 7, jackal 3, CR 1, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1577) UNVOTE danny off telle - telle 6, jackal 3, CR 1, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1577) danny vote CR - telle 6, jackal 3, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1587) UNVOTE ntn off telle - telle 5, jackal 3, CR 2, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1
(1587) ntn vote CR - telle 5, jackal 3, CR 3, Danny 1, Autumn 1, nfg 1

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

It doesn't prove that I'm good, just that I'm telling the truth about my ability.

We can talk about you later, CR is the topic of discussion now.

[Danny]

Some other CR things, on day two, when PB and CR both had about the same, support for CR died out and PB moved up. Today again, not much support for CR past the initial two or so.

[kingfc22]

As I was doing this recap, I couldn't help but think that the wolves may be "sacrificing" one of their own in Telle and then using the voting record the next few days as an alibi.

Not sure what to make of the latest info that just came up other than it sounds pretty good.

[Danny]

Guys, we are not at end game here, this person is unlikely to be lying

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

In fact, I can probably name us two additional wolves if this person is lying.

Then I can tell you right now that you know two additional wolves, because he is lying. Of course, this is like talking into dead silence. How can I respond when I do not know the manner in which I am being accused? If you won't share who this person is, Danny, can you at least say why you trust them so much, or if they offered anything other than "he is a wolf"?

[kingfc22]

Unvote nfg
Vote CR


I'll go with Danny on this one.
>>

[henry296]

Wow.

Based on my post after Day 1 on the middle votes for Kwhit, led me to Telle today and I felt CR was ok b/c I didn't think his day 1 vote was based. I think Jackal is good and the frustration is real.

I wish someone would confirm Danny's story before I vote. However, given my statements above, I'll pick nfg22 for now but could change with more info as last nights exhcange seems a bit odd.

vote nfg22

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Then I can tell you right now that you know two additional wolves, because he is lying. Of course, this is like talking into dead silence. How can I respond when I do not know the manner in which I am being accused? If you won't share who this person is, Danny, can you at least say why you trust them so much, or if they offered anything other than "he is a wolf"?

Honestly, if this person is lying, it hurts us little. You die, but we catch wolves. If he is lying it is a very bad play.