The official tournament time thread - Page 32

Lathum · 04-05-2008, 10:15 PM

curious to hear VegasVic's take on the sports books for this tournament

Vegas Vic · 04-05-2008, 10:33 PM

The good news is I've already locked up first place in my office pool, regardless of who wins, so I can collect the money on Monday morning.

sterlingice · 04-05-2008, 10:48 PM

woo.

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 04-05-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radii

the only good thing about this loss is that I never have to watch that fuckhead ever again.

It's weird, but for some reason Reggie Ball just crossed my mind

sterlingice · 04-05-2008, 11:32 PM

As an aside, Beasley was much better versus us than Hansbrough. Certainly different circumstances, tho. Then again, it's pretty clear that he got player of the year because he was on Carolina and Beasley was on K-State. The stats were clearly in Beasley's favor.

SI

the_meanstrosity · 04-05-2008, 11:48 PM

You can't really compare Hansbrough to Beasley in this game. UNC was down early so they had to go outside more than they probably wanted to. Hansbrough scored 17 points off of 13 shots. Not a bad night for Hansbrough considering they were down by 20 at the half.

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

As an aside, Beasley was much better versus us than Hansbrough. Certainly different circumstances, tho. Then again, it's pretty clear that he got player of the year because he was on Carolina and Beasley was on K-State. The stats were clearly in Beasley's favor.

SI

Chief Rum · 04-06-2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Geez this has to suck for UCLA and its fans 3 years in a row to make it to the final and leave empty handed.

It sucks when you look at it from the "we're here to do something" perspective, but taking the long view, it's hard to get upset when you realize your team has been to three straight Final Fours.

Still, this game illustrates something I brought up earlier in this thread: Ben Howland, for all as great as he is at many other things, just cannot coach an offense. I mean, the guy just flat can't do it. He has his little concept of how to run things and he calls all the plays. And he doesn't make any changes to it. And things like Luc Richard taking awful shot after awful shot from outside and Kevin Love being ignored underneath continue to happen. Not to mention my other favorite Howland offensive play (I have brought it up before--the 34 second dribble trip/pass around followed by desperation three to beat the shot clock).

Get a legit offense in there, and maybe, just maybe, you'll win a national title, Coach.

hoopsguy · 04-06-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It's weird, but for some reason Reggie Ball just crossed my mind

Paging Rich McBride.

vtbub · 04-06-2008, 09:31 AM

I'm with st. cronin, this has been the most boring tourney in years. Last night was strange, hopefully we get a decent final cause last night sucked.

Noop · 04-06-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

It sucks when you look at it from the "we're here to do something" perspective, but taking the long view, it's hard to get upset when you realize your team has been to three straight Final Fours.

Still, this game illustrates something I brought up earlier in this thread: Ben Howland, for all as great as he is at many other things, just cannot coach an offense. I mean, the guy just flat can't do it. He has his little concept of how to run things and he calls all the plays. And he doesn't make any changes to it. And things like Luc Richard taking awful shot after awful shot from outside and Kevin Love being ignored underneath continue to happen. Not to mention my other favorite Howland offensive play (I have brought it up before--the 34 second dribble trip/pass around followed by desperation three to beat the shot clock).

Get a legit offense in there, and maybe, just maybe, you'll win a national title, Coach.

A few good points. I was just commenting on that fact that 3 trips to the final four (an accomplishment considering how difficult the tournament is) and to not winning has to sting not only for the fans but for the players who are seniors.

I am assuming Love, Westbrooke, and Collison are gone next season. Hopefully Jrue Holiday is an impact player.

MrBug708 · 04-06-2008, 12:23 PM

I hope Westbrook comes back and he's the most likely to come back right now and the only senior is Mata. I would assume Jrue Holiday is as good as advertised though

Buccaneer · 04-06-2008, 05:48 PM

Vegas VIc, how did you get 320 out of 320 in Elite 8 when you missed two of the teams? By the way, very nice job. Did most people did good on their brackets?

Eaglesfan27 · 04-06-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Vegas VIc, how did you get 320 out of 320 in Elite 8 when you missed two of the teams? By the way, very nice job. Did most people did good on their brackets?

My bracket was fairly decent considering some of the upheaval caused by a few teams, and I called all 4 final teams, but I had UCLA facing UNC in the Final and I imagine that will cost me my office pool which I had a decent shot winning going into this weekend.

Groundhog · 04-06-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vtbub

I'm with st. cronin, this has been the most boring tourney in years. Last night was strange, hopefully we get a decent final cause last night sucked.

Without having a horse in either race, I really liked both of yesterday's games. Loved watching CDR/Rose/Dorsey in the first game, and Kansas played some amazing basketball for the first 10 mins of their game vs UNC. Then UNC very nearly came back, which added a bit more excitement to what would otherwise have been a very drab second half blowout.

The Elite Eight was, by and large, a bit of a bore, but throughout the rest of the tourney there have been more than enough good games to keep me happy. All of Davidson's games in particular have been fun.

I have watched probably 70% of all games (and 100% outside of the first 2 rounds) in their entirety though, which is no doubt very different from most folks.

MizzouRah · 04-06-2008, 09:22 PM

Well, in the Sports Gamer Blog bracket tourney, I'm currently 4th picking Kansas vs Memphis. If Memphis wins, I finish 2nd and get CH 2k8 which I just bought

. It does feel good to know I might win something though!

If Kansas wins, I get nothing... although I'll congratulate SI.

Groundhog · 04-06-2008, 11:47 PM

Can anyone give me some currentish odds on the game tomorrow? Can't check here at work, but I might put a little cash down on Memphis this afternoon.

sterlingice · 04-07-2008, 12:10 AM

Memphis seems to be around a 1.5 to 2 point favorite at most places

SI

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Memphis seems to be around a 1.5 to 2 point favorite at most places

Really? That surprises me.

I'm still torn on who I think is going to win, not to mention who I WANT to win.

st.cronin · 04-07-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

The Elite Eight was, by and large, a bit of a bore, but throughout the rest of the tourney there have been more than enough good games to keep me happy. All of Davidson's games in particular have been fun.

Granted I didn't watch every game, but not one game that I have watched has been close. The NC-Kansas game was probably the most exciting one I watched.

Chief Rum · 04-07-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Granted I didn't watch every game, but not one game that I have watched has been close. The NC-Kansas game was probably the most exciting one I watched.

Please don't watch tonight's game then. I would like to enjoy a close game.

sterlingice · 04-07-2008, 08:05 PM

We're here... and it's game time.

SI

Noop · 04-07-2008, 08:50 PM

I am sorry but the refs are very one sided.

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 09:01 PM

Good game so far. CDR is a heck of a player, even if he does dribble it around a little too long.

sterlingice · 04-07-2008, 09:07 PM

What's the over/under on the odds of the "two heavyweights feeling each other out" cliche at the half?

SI

MJ4H · 04-07-2008, 09:09 PM

1:1 straight-up

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 09:26 PM

Nice live footage of Bill Russell picking his nose.

Noop · 04-07-2008, 09:41 PM

Rose needs to get his head out his ass and take over.

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 09:49 PM

Man, 3-on-1 Memphis break and he holds on to the ball waaay too long.

hoopsguy · 04-07-2008, 10:05 PM

Memphis just killed the gimmick defense, first time they have looked comfortable in consecutive half-court possessions since early half.

Kansas is cold right now - they are going to need to get something outside of six feet if they want to win this game. UCLA showed that D alone isn't a formula to win a title against a multi-faceted team like Memphis.

Noop · 04-07-2008, 10:07 PM

Rose is an amazing player and reminds me of Wade so much except he doesn't quite have that killer instinct.

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 10:11 PM

That Rose 3 really, really sucks for Kansas.

hoopsguy · 04-07-2008, 10:17 PM

If Dozier, Anderson, Dorsey - basically anyone besides Rose + CDR - are on the line then this one is still competitive.

hoopsguy · 04-07-2008, 10:18 PM

Dozier splashes two just to prove me - and other critics - wrong.

Noop · 04-07-2008, 10:25 PM

Now it gets interesting. I wouldn't be surprised by overtime.

Buccaneer · 04-07-2008, 10:25 PM

Come on KU.

Noop · 04-07-2008, 10:27 PM

Should have been a foul. Memphis caught a break.

Noop · 04-07-2008, 10:28 PM

Douglas-Roberts with the silly play.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2008, 10:28 PM

Just caught another break with no technical called there.

Right, wrong, whatever, I've seen the man with the whistle make that call at least a couple of times this season.

hoopsguy · 04-07-2008, 10:29 PM

No way Collins should have drove 1-2 there - dude just puts his head down and tries to be the hero way, way too often. I would have hoped 7 TOs last game might have tempered this a little bit, but nope.

Memphis is trying to give this away, but I don't think Rose will let that happen with these two shots.

Lathum · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

so if you are mad at yourself it's not a technicale?

also, was it just me or did the Memphis player who got the rebound on the missed FT travel?

hoopsguy · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

WOW!!!!

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

Wowzers.

sterlingice · 04-07-2008, 10:30 PM

YESSS!

SI

Groundhog · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

holy shit

Noop · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

He should have fouled the ball handler.

JonInMiddleGA · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

I wonder what the seismographs in Kansas just registered

Lathum · 04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

He should have fouled the ball handler.

yep.

Radii · 04-07-2008, 10:32 PM

hahahahahahhaa god Memphis just.... I'm speechless. Horrible one on one basketball when you have a chance to put away the game(did you see the kickout Rose had for an open 3 when he decided driving into 3 players was smart?) and lack of fundamentals at the free throw line. i don't really have a rooting interest in kansas but I love seeing this.

Lathum · 04-07-2008, 10:33 PM

I think KU comes out in OT and wins it, Memphis players mentaly had to think they had the game won

Atocep · 04-07-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

so if you are mad at yourself it's not a technicale?

That should have been a technical. Period. However, those that think "the players should decide games" would have cried about that for the next couple of decades.

04-05-2008, 10:48 PM	#1553
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	woo. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

04-05-2008, 11:32 PM	#1555
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	As an aside, Beasley was much better versus us than Hansbrough. Certainly different circumstances, tho. Then again, it's pretty clear that he got player of the year because he was on Carolina and Beasley was on K-State. The stats were clearly in Beasley's favor. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 04-05-2008 at 11:33 PM.

04-06-2008, 09:31 AM	#1559
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	I'm with st. cronin, this has been the most boring tourney in years. Last night was strange, hopefully we get a decent final cause last night sucked. __________________

04-06-2008, 11:47 PM	#1566
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Can anyone give me some currentish odds on the game tomorrow? Can't check here at work, but I might put a little cash down on Memphis this afternoon. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 12:10 AM	#1567
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Memphis seems to be around a 1.5 to 2 point favorite at most places SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

04-05-2008, 10:15 PM	#1551
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	curious to hear VegasVic's take on the sports books for this tournament

04-05-2008, 10:33 PM	#1552
Vegas Vic Checkraising Tourists Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	The good news is I've already locked up first place in my office pool, regardless of who wins, so I can collect the money on Monday morning.

04-06-2008, 12:23 PM	#1561
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I hope Westbrook comes back and he's the most likely to come back right now and the only senior is Mata. I would assume Jrue Holiday is as good as advertised though

04-06-2008, 05:48 PM	#1562
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Vegas VIc, how did you get 320 out of 320 in Elite 8 when you missed two of the teams? By the way, very nice job. Did most people did good on their brackets?

04-06-2008, 09:22 PM	#1565
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Well, in the Sports Gamer Blog bracket tourney, I'm currently 4th picking Kansas vs Memphis. If Memphis wins, I finish 2nd and get CH 2k8 which I just bought . It does feel good to know I might win something though! If Kansas wins, I get nothing... although I'll congratulate SI.

04-07-2008, 08:05 PM	#1571
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	We're here... and it's game time. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 04-07-2008 at 08:11 PM.

04-07-2008, 08:50 PM	#1572
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I am sorry but the refs are very one sided. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 09:01 PM	#1573
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Good game so far. CDR is a heck of a player, even if he does dribble it around a little too long. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 09:07 PM	#1574
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	What's the over/under on the odds of the "two heavyweights feeling each other out" cliche at the half? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 04-07-2008 at 09:07 PM.

04-07-2008, 09:09 PM	#1575
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	1:1 straight-up __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

04-07-2008, 09:26 PM	#1576
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Nice live footage of Bill Russell picking his nose. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 09:41 PM	#1577
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Rose needs to get his head out his ass and take over. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 09:49 PM	#1578
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Man, 3-on-1 Memphis break and he holds on to the ball waaay too long. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 10:05 PM	#1579
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Memphis just killed the gimmick defense, first time they have looked comfortable in consecutive half-court possessions since early half. Kansas is cold right now - they are going to need to get something outside of six feet if they want to win this game. UCLA showed that D alone isn't a formula to win a title against a multi-faceted team like Memphis.

04-07-2008, 10:07 PM	#1580
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Rose is an amazing player and reminds me of Wade so much except he doesn't quite have that killer instinct. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 10:11 PM	#1581
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	That Rose 3 really, really sucks for Kansas. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 10:17 PM	#1582
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If Dozier, Anderson, Dorsey - basically anyone besides Rose + CDR - are on the line then this one is still competitive.

04-07-2008, 10:18 PM	#1583
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dozier splashes two just to prove me - and other critics - wrong.

04-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#1584
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Now it gets interesting. I wouldn't be surprised by overtime. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 10:25 PM	#1585
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Come on KU.

04-07-2008, 10:27 PM	#1586
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Should have been a foul. Memphis caught a break. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 10:28 PM	#1587
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Douglas-Roberts with the silly play. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-07-2008, 10:28 PM	#1588
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Just caught another break with no technical called there. Right, wrong, whatever, I've seen the man with the whistle make that call at least a couple of times this season. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2008, 10:29 PM	#1589
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No way Collins should have drove 1-2 there - dude just puts his head down and tries to be the hero way, way too often. I would have hoped 7 TOs last game might have tempered this a little bit, but nope. Memphis is trying to give this away, but I don't think Rose will let that happen with these two shots.

04-07-2008, 10:30 PM	#1590
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so if you are mad at yourself it's not a technicale? also, was it just me or did the Memphis player who got the rebound on the missed FT travel?

04-07-2008, 10:30 PM	#1591
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	WOW!!!!

04-07-2008, 10:30 PM	#1592
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Wowzers. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

04-07-2008, 10:30 PM	#1593
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	YESSS! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

04-07-2008, 10:31 PM	#1594
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	holy shit __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

04-07-2008, 10:31 PM	#1595
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	He should have fouled the ball handler. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.