2009 NCAA Tournament Thread - Page 31

Neuqua · 03-28-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Looking at NBA draft.net, I don't get why Blair isn't rated higher. Maybe it's just not up to date, but considering how bad this draft is, teams could do a lot worse than a good defender, good board guy who already has NBA size.

SI

He's a shorter Michael Sweetney.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

This tourney, I've really noticed that a third step is ok now. It's sad

Yep.

But they're just preparing them for the NBA.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-28-2009, 08:16 PM

I guess traveling is called after all.

adubroff · 03-28-2009, 08:17 PM

Suprised Fisher went that early in the clock, I think Pitt was too. Hopefully he knocks these down and pushes to 2 possesion land.

mauchow · 03-28-2009, 08:19 PM

Unbelievable, 19/19 in freethrows.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-28-2009, 08:22 PM

I love seeing a team hit every free throw in a game.

ColtCrazy · 03-28-2009, 08:24 PM

I had Pitt winning it in my 2nd bracket, more because I lacked conviction about anyone else after my top choice, UNC. I'd actually rather see Nova win this.

sterlingice · 03-28-2009, 08:25 PM

Wow- what a stupid play

SI

larrymcg421 · 03-28-2009, 08:25 PM

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:25 PM

Dumb.

Radii · 03-28-2009, 08:25 PM

seriously WTF

mauchow · 03-28-2009, 08:25 PM

Incredible.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-28-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Wow- what a stupid play

SI

Yes. That was one of the most boneheaded plays I've seen in the final minute. Reminds me of Chris Webber.

adubroff · 03-28-2009, 08:26 PM

Keep Blair off the boards here. You can not let him get the rebound if there is on.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:26 PM

Excuse me Mr. Weber, but could I borrow your seat for a minute?

edit: I see EF27 was thinking the same way

Eaglesfan27 · 03-28-2009, 08:28 PM

Wow. What an ending!

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:28 PM

And now Danny Ainge is on the phone

DeToxRox · 03-28-2009, 08:28 PM

Reynolds is a stud.

Radii · 03-28-2009, 08:28 PM

WOWOW.

Dr. Sak · 03-28-2009, 08:28 PM

That was...AWESOME!

sterlingice · 03-28-2009, 08:29 PM

Still time left. I would kill to see an awesome play that sends this into OT

SI

sterlingice · 03-28-2009, 08:30 PM

Dang- why not try to go for the home run pass there?

SI

larrymcg421 · 03-28-2009, 08:31 PM

Finally the kind of finish I've been waiting for all tourney.

yacovfb · 03-28-2009, 08:32 PM

Thanks for the loss Jermaine Dixon

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:34 PM

hoopsguy · 03-28-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yacovfb

Thanks for the loss Jermaine Dixon

Yep, I was cussing that guy out all game long. Just when he actually contributes with a bucket he gives away the hideous "and one" play after his boneheaded turnover. Total momentum shift there.

larrymcg421 · 03-28-2009, 08:38 PM

Don't forget this one, Jon....

JonInMiddleGA · 03-28-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Don't forget this one, Jon....

I was shooting for less, umm, contentious.

Figured nobody would mind seeing Notre Dame get beat.

adubroff · 03-28-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

And now Danny Ainge is on the phone

I always think of the Edney one:

YouTube - 4.8 - Tyus Edney 1995 NCAA Tournament

In watching both though, I think Reynolds faced more contention than either when he got to the hole....but had he missed we'd be watching OT, so the pressure wasn't quite as high.

Swaggs · 03-28-2009, 10:07 PM

I'm so glad that Fields and Young are finally done at Pitt. Young really rounded out his game this season -- he has made himself into a really, really good player.

Glad to see 'Nova move on. I think Jay Wright is a really good and under-rated, classy head coach. I'm happy to see him get a shot in the limelight.

Ajaxab · 03-28-2009, 10:15 PM

I don't watch a lot of college basketball, but I'm wondering what the strategy was for Pitt to press in last five seconds. In the NBA, you might see coaches press the point guard down the floor, but leave everyone else back. Do college coaches think that players can't handle the ball? Why not just follow the NBA strategy, have players back and, at the very least, force a low percentage long range shot?

RedKingGold · 03-29-2009, 12:59 AM

So, as the resident 'Nova fan on the board, all I can say is:

W00000000000000000000000000TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was out with my group at one of the local bars on campus, and it was absolute madness. As you might imagine, we though that it was pretty much over before that boneheaded inbounds pass up the court. Place went from delirious to pin-drop level.

Of course, Scottie went coast-to-coast to send us to the Final Four!

My friend and I just bought tickets on Stub-Hub for $250 a piece. Looks like we'll be making the 8-hour trip to Detroit next weekend. We might regret it in the morning, but right now, it's oh so sweet.

RedKingGold · 03-29-2009, 01:18 AM

Double bonus:

Being a homer and having 'Nova in the Final Four puts me in the driver's seat in both of my cash pools.

Good day all-around.

RainMaker · 03-29-2009, 01:50 AM

Couple weird things on that last play.

-Didn't like the defensive call at all. Too aggressive and it let Reynolds get into the open court. I would have pressed but more loosely. With 5 seconds a moderate press should force a crazy off-balanced 3.

- Reynolds had a wide open guy on the baseline he could have passed to for a dunk.

- The Pitt guy was in perfect position to draw a charge but didn't hold his ground. He actually committed a foul that wasn't called.

EagleFan · 03-29-2009, 02:23 AM

WOW, just got done watching the tape of the game (I knew they won as it was announced at the Wings game but wanted to see it anyway). That was what the tournament is all about.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 03-29-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I really thought Mizzou had worn out UConn at about the 11 minute mark- they were dragging like crazy and the game was tied or maybe a 2-point game. But somewhere between there and about the 5 minute mark, the Huskies got their legs back and then some- Thabeet came back in and there were some tv timeouts- and they just outhustled Mizzou the rest of the game. Mizzou was cold from the field most of the game- did they even shoot 40%- but it was still close.

SI

I'm not even sure that UConn got their legs back. Mizzou just missed several key shots, most of which were wide open. I can remember two or three open 3-point looks late in the game that would have given us the lead. If any of them go, MU might have had a shot at the upset.

UConn's guards had some troubles with the pressure, but the inside guys had some great spacing, which lead to some easy baskets.

After watching those games yesterday, I thought it was pretty evident that all of those four teams yesterday were Final Four worthy. Nice to have good games as Friday had a few stinkers.

RedKingGold · 03-29-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Couple weird things on that last play.

-Didn't like the defensive call at all. Too aggressive and it let Reynolds get into the open court. I would have pressed but more loosely. With 5 seconds a moderate press should force a crazy off-balanced 3.

Or a foul on Reynolds, an 80+% FT shooter.

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- Reynolds had a wide open guy on the baseline he could have passed to for a dunk.

You say this as if Nova had ten seconds or more on the clock. By the time Reynolds gets down near the basket, he only has about 2.50 seconds left.

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- The Pitt guy was in perfect position to draw a charge but didn't hold his ground. He actually committed a foul that wasn't called.

Again, this goes back to Reynolds. Probably why he went up instead of passing was that he was fouled by Dixon (even though the ref didn't call it)

But considering: (1) the phantom call on Redding in the first half, (2) the continuation on a Pitt basket that wasn't in the second and, (3) allowing Blair to walk all over the court; the refs were pretty inconsistent in calling the game.

Logan · 03-29-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

- The Pitt guy was in perfect position to draw a charge but didn't hold his ground. He actually committed a foul that wasn't called.

I noticed that too. He actually moved his body to the left when Reynolds went up. I think they would have called the charge too, being that the game was tied.

adubroff · 03-29-2009, 11:08 AM

I think today's games have a couple interesting aspects to them. I'm curious in the MSU game whether or not Izzo can scheme something that keeps this game in the 4-5 pt range late. Louisville's FT shooting (or lack thereof) would make me very interested in playing a 4-5 pt game with them. I would almost give up any chance of being ahead, if you could guarantee me I'm close. Izzo seems (at least publicly) to want to run with Louisville which I think might be a mistake. Maybe he's just trying to mess with Pitino's head.

In the second game, I'm curious how may Griffin will get, and realistically how many he can get with NC still winning the game. I think he can get 30 and lose, but I'm not sure if he gets to 40, and I do think that's feasible here. I don't know if they can win with him having 20 though, unless Oklahoma shoots lights out.

zums · 03-29-2009, 01:36 PM

Does anyone know where to find accurate historical college basketball rosters? last night i busted out my old sega and played some coach k college basketball - just wondering where to find accurate rosters so i can type something up w/ all the players in the game.

i tried statsheet.com (which would have worked perfectly) but it only has individual stats going back to the 96-97 season, but coach k has the 1994-95 seasons rosters which is what i need.

i could try to search for each team individually but was looking for something more consolidated or simple.... any ideas?

ps - go michigan st!!

Radii · 03-29-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

In the second game, I'm curious how may Griffin will get, and realistically how many he can get with NC still winning the game. I think he can get 30 and lose, but I'm not sure if he gets to 40, and I do think that's feasible here. I don't know if they can win with him having 20 though, unless Oklahoma shoots lights out.

Pretty much agree here. I expect Griffin to get between 20 and 30 and am fine with that. I could easily see him getting 30 and it not meaning that they win. I think the biggest factor will be how he does on the offensive boards, if he's just getting his points in the post that's fine, if he's getting a lot of second chance points that could pose a problem.

Logan · 03-29-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zums

Does anyone know where to find accurate historical college basketball rosters? last night i busted out my old sega and played some coach k college basketball - just wondering where to find accurate rosters so i can type something up w/ all the players in the game.

i tried statsheet.com (which would have worked perfectly) but it only has individual stats going back to the 96-97 season, but coach k has the 1994-95 seasons rosters which is what i need.

i could try to search for each team individually but was looking for something more consolidated or simple.... any ideas?

ps - go michigan st!!

No help for you but damn that game was great.

zums · 03-29-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

No help for you but damn that game is great.

Fixed it for you. You konw 12-15 years ago when I was like 10 i had all the rosters memorized....

adubroff · 03-29-2009, 02:46 PM

Izzo and company have done a great job so far in this one keeping the tempo manageable. Playing through Suton so heavily was a master stroke, he's been efficient and he's definitely not afraid of the moment. Mich. St. has to dodge the patented Louisville run. If they can do this, the game is going to be close late and I think MSU has an excellent shot to win a game like that.

adubroff · 03-29-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Pretty much agree here. I expect Griffin to get between 20 and 30 and am fine with that. I could easily see him getting 30 and it not meaning that they win. I think the biggest factor will be how he does on the offensive boards, if he's just getting his points in the post that's fine, if he's getting a lot of second chance points that could pose a problem.

I think if he's in the 40s its probably trouble. For a big guy to get into the 40s it usually means he's getting you in foul trouble and converting a high percentage (because it's hard to get that many natural touches as a big guy). NC is a very efficient offensive team so you don't want Griffin to be able to match them in efficiency if he's taking most of their shots (or you end up in a coin flip game).

Schmidty · 03-29-2009, 02:51 PM

Keep it up State! Make those naysayers eat their words!!

Radii · 03-29-2009, 03:01 PM

holy crap go go MSU!

Lathum · 03-29-2009, 03:04 PM

Louisville is starting to press to hard here and rush shots

Schmidty · 03-29-2009, 03:05 PM

Suton's a monster.

Passacaglia · 03-29-2009, 03:08 PM

Man that ball seemed to hang on the rim forever.

Wonder how much Final Four tickets shoot up in price if MSU makes it.

03-28-2009, 08:16 PM	#1503
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03-28-2009, 08:22 PM	#1506
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03-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#1508
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wow- what a stupid play SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#1509
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03-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#1510
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03-28-2009, 08:17 PM	#1504
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	Suprised Fisher went that early in the clock, I think Pitt was too. Hopefully he knocks these down and pushes to 2 possesion land.

03-28-2009, 08:19 PM	#1505
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Unbelievable, 19/19 in freethrows.

03-28-2009, 08:24 PM	#1507
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I had Pitt winning it in my 2nd bracket, more because I lacked conviction about anyone else after my top choice, UNC. I'd actually rather see Nova win this.

03-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#1511
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	seriously WTF

03-28-2009, 08:25 PM	#1512
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Incredible.

03-28-2009, 08:26 PM	#1514
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	Keep Blair off the boards here. You can not let him get the rebound if there is on.

03-28-2009, 08:26 PM	#1515
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Excuse me Mr. Weber, but could I borrow your seat for a minute? edit: I see EF27 was thinking the same way __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 03-28-2009 at 08:27 PM.

03-28-2009, 08:28 PM	#1516
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Wow. What an ending! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-28-2009, 08:28 PM	#1517
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	And now Danny Ainge is on the phone __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-28-2009, 08:28 PM	#1518
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Reynolds is a stud.

03-28-2009, 08:28 PM	#1519
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	WOWOW.

03-28-2009, 08:28 PM	#1520
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	That was...AWESOME!

03-28-2009, 08:29 PM	#1521
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Still time left. I would kill to see an awesome play that sends this into OT SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-28-2009, 08:30 PM	#1522
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Dang- why not try to go for the home run pass there? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-28-2009, 08:31 PM	#1523
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Finally the kind of finish I've been waiting for all tourney. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

03-28-2009, 08:32 PM	#1524
yacovfb H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Aug 2002	Thanks for the loss Jermaine Dixon

03-28-2009, 08:34 PM	#1525
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	__________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-28-2009, 08:38 PM	#1527
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Don't forget this one, Jon.... __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

03-28-2009, 10:07 PM	#1530
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm so glad that Fields and Young are finally done at Pitt. Young really rounded out his game this season -- he has made himself into a really, really good player. Glad to see 'Nova move on. I think Jay Wright is a really good and under-rated, classy head coach. I'm happy to see him get a shot in the limelight. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-28-2009, 10:15 PM	#1531
Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	I don't watch a lot of college basketball, but I'm wondering what the strategy was for Pitt to press in last five seconds. In the NBA, you might see coaches press the point guard down the floor, but leave everyone else back. Do college coaches think that players can't handle the ball? Why not just follow the NBA strategy, have players back and, at the very least, force a low percentage long range shot?

03-29-2009, 12:59 AM	#1532
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	So, as the resident 'Nova fan on the board, all I can say is: W00000000000000000000000000TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was out with my group at one of the local bars on campus, and it was absolute madness. As you might imagine, we though that it was pretty much over before that boneheaded inbounds pass up the court. Place went from delirious to pin-drop level. Of course, Scottie went coast-to-coast to send us to the Final Four! My friend and I just bought tickets on Stub-Hub for $250 a piece. Looks like we'll be making the 8-hour trip to Detroit next weekend. We might regret it in the morning, but right now, it's oh so sweet. Last edited by RedKingGold : 03-29-2009 at 01:00 AM.

03-29-2009, 01:18 AM	#1533
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Double bonus: Being a homer and having 'Nova in the Final Four puts me in the driver's seat in both of my cash pools. Good day all-around.

03-29-2009, 01:50 AM	#1534
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Couple weird things on that last play. -Didn't like the defensive call at all. Too aggressive and it let Reynolds get into the open court. I would have pressed but more loosely. With 5 seconds a moderate press should force a crazy off-balanced 3. - Reynolds had a wide open guy on the baseline he could have passed to for a dunk. - The Pitt guy was in perfect position to draw a charge but didn't hold his ground. He actually committed a foul that wasn't called.

03-29-2009, 02:23 AM	#1535
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	WOW, just got done watching the tape of the game (I knew they won as it was announced at the Wings game but wanted to see it anyway). That was what the tournament is all about.

03-29-2009, 11:08 AM	#1539
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	I think today's games have a couple interesting aspects to them. I'm curious in the MSU game whether or not Izzo can scheme something that keeps this game in the 4-5 pt range late. Louisville's FT shooting (or lack thereof) would make me very interested in playing a 4-5 pt game with them. I would almost give up any chance of being ahead, if you could guarantee me I'm close. Izzo seems (at least publicly) to want to run with Louisville which I think might be a mistake. Maybe he's just trying to mess with Pitino's head. In the second game, I'm curious how may Griffin will get, and realistically how many he can get with NC still winning the game. I think he can get 30 and lose, but I'm not sure if he gets to 40, and I do think that's feasible here. I don't know if they can win with him having 20 though, unless Oklahoma shoots lights out.

03-29-2009, 01:36 PM	#1540
zums H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Dec 2000	Does anyone know where to find accurate historical college basketball rosters? last night i busted out my old sega and played some coach k college basketball - just wondering where to find accurate rosters so i can type something up w/ all the players in the game. i tried statsheet.com (which would have worked perfectly) but it only has individual stats going back to the 96-97 season, but coach k has the 1994-95 seasons rosters which is what i need. i could try to search for each team individually but was looking for something more consolidated or simple.... any ideas? ps - go michigan st!!

03-29-2009, 02:46 PM	#1544
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	Izzo and company have done a great job so far in this one keeping the tempo manageable. Playing through Suton so heavily was a master stroke, he's been efficient and he's definitely not afraid of the moment. Mich. St. has to dodge the patented Louisville run. If they can do this, the game is going to be close late and I think MSU has an excellent shot to win a game like that.

03-29-2009, 02:51 PM	#1546
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Keep it up State! Make those naysayers eat their words!! __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-29-2009, 03:01 PM	#1547
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	holy crap go go MSU!

03-29-2009, 03:04 PM	#1548
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Louisville is starting to press to hard here and rush shots