2008-2009 College Basketball Thread...... - Page 30

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 01:45 PM

Tennessee couldn't throw a bowling ball in the ocean & get it wet.

Noop · 03-15-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

It's amazing how people always find the conspiracies around the teams that they just happen not to like (or that are playing a team they're rooting for).

It's like lowest, poorest loser reaction to losing, where you're trying to actually take joy away from those who are fans of the winner. "Well, it's just fixed so there".

You must not watch a lot of Duke ACC games then... the way Duke is shooting I have no doubt they would have beat Florida State. What I have a problem with is the non calls when State has the ball and the fouls called when they are on defense.

gstelmack · 03-15-2009, 01:46 PM

The real problem is basketball is so poorly officiated that it's easy to find these issues, and it's a reason I don't watch very much of it. Putting conspiracy theories aside, how do you have a ref in the ACC tournament staring right at the play from like 6 feet away and calling a jump ball when Hansbrough is fouling the guy? Shouldn't that be a firable offense? But it happens all game long in most basketball games these days and just ruins the watchability of basketball for me.

Noop · 03-15-2009, 01:50 PM

Like I expected the refs will call fouls when the game is finish to make the stats sheet look right.

molson · 03-15-2009, 01:55 PM

I think referees and fans have a different idea of what a foul is sometimes. Obviously, consistency is good, but you can't call a foul every time there's contact, even a lot a contact. So there's always occasions to cry about non-calls, if you want to be a crybaby. (like holding in football)

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 01:56 PM

Noop · 03-15-2009, 01:56 PM

Coach Ham has to be one dumb dumb for a coach, why didn't he try to establish the inside game against a small Duke team is beyond me. Congrats Duke they won this game with or without the refs.

Radii · 03-15-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I think referees and fans have a different idea of what a foul is sometimes. Obviously, consistency is good, but you can't call a foul every time there's contact, even a lot a contact. So there's always occasions to cry about non-calls, if you want to be a crybaby. (like holding in football)

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larrymcg421 · 03-15-2009, 02:19 PM

Some crazy stuff at the end of this MSU-Tennessee game.

hoopsguy · 03-15-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Speaking of the unwatchable Big 10, the opening five minutes of the second half of the SEC title game has been right up there. Combined 1 of 14 shooting and six fouls in that stretch.

How about the sequence here right now with 9 seconds left? Three plays, all turnovers, and clock not starting in order to drag this one out just a bit more?

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 02:20 PM

The clock management at the SEC tournament is getting ridiculous.

9.6 left, inbounds pass off a leg, they review and move it to 9.3
9.3 left, MSU gets the ball & steps OOB, no time runs off.
Still 9.3. left, UT inbounds & turns it over, STILL no time runs off.

They finally reset it to 8.0

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 02:23 PM

Just an absurd mess of a game that UT had no business winning anyway.

A mediocre team beats an underachieving mess of an alleged team, neither of whom will matter one iota in the tournament anyway. A great display of just how bad the SEC is this year, a perfect microcosm of the conference right now.

LloydLungs · 03-15-2009, 02:24 PM

If there's any justice, this should eliminate any shot for the SEC bubble teams (Auburn, SC, Fla). If four SEC teams make the NCAAs, there should be an investigation. Unfortunately I think it's curtains for St. Mary's now. Next time, stay healthy, Gaels.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 02:29 PM

No way the SEC should get more than three. I figure St. Mary's was already out, I tend to agree with the consensus of those bracketologies posted earlier, that game probably took out either Creighton or Maryland, maybe San Diego State.

LloydLungs · 03-15-2009, 02:37 PM

See, I figured they were probably a spot ahead of Creighton. This year's committee seems to be making more noise than usual about injuries -- that's why I figured they might still be in. But this won't help 'em. Partly their fault, though. Getting slaughtered by the Zags in the WCC title game didn't help their cause.

Ksyrup · 03-15-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

The real problem is basketball is so poorly officiated that it's easy to find these issues, and it's a reason I don't watch very much of it. Putting conspiracy theories aside, how do you have a ref in the ACC tournament staring right at the play from like 6 feet away and calling a jump ball when Hansbrough is fouling the guy? Shouldn't that be a firable offense? But it happens all game long in most basketball games these days and just ruins the watchability of basketball for me.

This is my position. Obviously I was rooting for FSU, but I don't care enough about basketball to hate Duke so much that I am looking for conspiracies. I just don't like the inconsistent calls, and when it's an upstart versus the perennial champion and the champ is getting quite a few calls (or non-calls), then it ruins my enjoyment of the game. FSU was going to lose this game either way, considering how well Duke was shooting and FSU's limitations. But they really didn't have a chance with the refereeing in the first half. They needed a consistently called game, and I didn't see that.

Tigercat · 03-15-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Just an absurd mess of a game that UT had no business winning anyway.

A mediocre team beats an underachieving mess of an alleged team, neither of whom will matter one iota in the tournament anyway. A great display of just how bad the SEC is this year, a perfect microcosm of the conference right now.

You forgot to mention the ugly officiating both ways, which also exemplified the rest of the season. It was perhaps the worst year of SEC basketball officiating ever. SEC refs didn't know how to call Miss St games in particular, I am glad to be done with those crews for the rest of the year.

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:01 PM

Louisville the top overall number 1, that is interesting.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:02 PM

Wow, Louisville the overall number one, who would have thought that a week ago

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:03 PM

wow. 3 Big East ones

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:03 PM

The Big East with 3 number 1 seeds.

Radii · 03-15-2009, 05:03 PM

Its an irrational dislike, but I love seeing Memphis not getting a top seed.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 05:09 PM

I would have flipflopped Pitt & UNC as 2 & 3 overall at this point but it really doesn't matter much since they would still matchup in the Final Four regardless.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:11 PM

wow

Arizona gets grandfathered in

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:11 PM

Arizona snuck into the tourney.

kingfc22 · 03-15-2009, 05:11 PM

How did Arizona get in?

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:11 PM

Damn I was hoping Florida State would play in Miami.

kingfc22 · 03-15-2009, 05:12 PM

Louisville will smoke MSU

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:14 PM

I think I know what 12-5 upset everyone will pick

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:14 PM

This is not an easy bracket that's for sure.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 05:15 PM

Arizona in = Maryland out?

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:15 PM

I like the OSU- Louisville potential matchup and WVU-KU would be a good game also

Swaggs · 03-15-2009, 05:15 PM

Man... Dayton w/ the #29 RPI is an 11-seed?

Not a great matchup for WVU there.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Arizona in = Maryland out?

I'll be really surprised if MD is out.

Karlifornia · 03-15-2009, 05:16 PM

Go North Dakota State!

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:17 PM

West region coming up, I expect Washington to be the 4 seed there

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 05:18 PM

Before I forget, let me mention how much I fucking hate the "pod" system.

Philadelphia is the 1st & 2nd round site for the West regional = ridiculous

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

West region coming up, I expect Washington to be the 4 seed there

Correct

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:19 PM

and there we are.

Man not an easy draw for UW. Miss St. in round one then Purdue. Sheesh

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:20 PM

Maryland is in.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-15-2009, 05:20 PM

Okay, so does Maryland in = Michigan/Minnesota out?

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:20 PM

I think Minnesota is out

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:22 PM

The west looks tough.

henry296 · 03-15-2009, 05:23 PM

I think AZ and MD in = St. Marys / Creighton out

Radii · 03-15-2009, 05:23 PM

Ok so maryland is in, but a 10 seed!? How in the hell?

mckerney · 03-15-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, so does Maryland in = Michigan/Minnesota out?

Michigan or Minnesota out and Wisconsin in would be a travesty. Their tough SoS came from laying down to 3 good teams and not beating anyone OOC, and they missed playing Ohio State and Michigan State twice in conference. Minnesota and Michigan both managed to win tough non conference games, and unlike Wisconsin neither has a bad loss.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

The west looks tough.

Yeah, really not pleased at UW's seeding. 2 conference champs in the first 2 days of the tourny.

Karlifornia · 03-15-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Before I forget, let me mention how much I fucking hate the "pod" system.

Philadelphia is the 1st & 2nd round site for the West regional = ridiculous

You can just ignore the whole title of each regional until the sweet 16. It is really for the best, though, in regards to attendance and such.

Noop · 03-15-2009, 05:27 PM

Terrible.

Lathum · 03-15-2009, 05:27 PM

Texas beats Duke in the second round.

03-15-2009, 01:45 PM	#1451
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Tennessee couldn't throw a bowling ball in the ocean & get it wet. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 01:46 PM	#1453
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	The real problem is basketball is so poorly officiated that it's easy to find these issues, and it's a reason I don't watch very much of it. Putting conspiracy theories aside, how do you have a ref in the ACC tournament staring right at the play from like 6 feet away and calling a jump ball when Hansbrough is fouling the guy? Shouldn't that be a firable offense? But it happens all game long in most basketball games these days and just ruins the watchability of basketball for me. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-15-2009, 01:50 PM	#1454
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Like I expected the refs will call fouls when the game is finish to make the stats sheet look right. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 01:55 PM	#1455
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think referees and fans have a different idea of what a foul is sometimes. Obviously, consistency is good, but you can't call a foul every time there's contact, even a lot a contact. So there's always occasions to cry about non-calls, if you want to be a crybaby. (like holding in football) Last edited by molson : 03-15-2009 at 01:56 PM.

03-15-2009, 01:56 PM	#1456
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	__________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 01:56 PM	#1457
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Coach Ham has to be one dumb dumb for a coach, why didn't he try to establish the inside game against a small Duke team is beyond me. Congrats Duke they won this game with or without the refs. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 02:19 PM	#1459
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Some crazy stuff at the end of this MSU-Tennessee game. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

03-15-2009, 02:20 PM	#1461
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	The clock management at the SEC tournament is getting ridiculous. 9.6 left, inbounds pass off a leg, they review and move it to 9.3 9.3 left, MSU gets the ball & steps OOB, no time runs off. Still 9.3. left, UT inbounds & turns it over, STILL no time runs off. They finally reset it to 8.0 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 02:23 PM	#1462
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Just an absurd mess of a game that UT had no business winning anyway. A mediocre team beats an underachieving mess of an alleged team, neither of whom will matter one iota in the tournament anyway. A great display of just how bad the SEC is this year, a perfect microcosm of the conference right now. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 02:24 PM	#1463
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	If there's any justice, this should eliminate any shot for the SEC bubble teams (Auburn, SC, Fla). If four SEC teams make the NCAAs, there should be an investigation. Unfortunately I think it's curtains for St. Mary's now. Next time, stay healthy, Gaels.

03-15-2009, 02:29 PM	#1464
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	No way the SEC should get more than three. I figure St. Mary's was already out, I tend to agree with the consensus of those bracketologies posted earlier, that game probably took out either Creighton or Maryland, maybe San Diego State. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 03-15-2009 at 02:30 PM.

03-15-2009, 02:37 PM	#1465
LloydLungs College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ponchatoula, LA	See, I figured they were probably a spot ahead of Creighton. This year's committee seems to be making more noise than usual about injuries -- that's why I figured they might still be in. But this won't help 'em. Partly their fault, though. Getting slaughtered by the Zags in the WCC title game didn't help their cause.

03-15-2009, 05:01 PM	#1468
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Louisville the top overall number 1, that is interesting. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:02 PM	#1469
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Wow, Louisville the overall number one, who would have thought that a week ago

03-15-2009, 05:03 PM	#1470
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow. 3 Big East ones

03-15-2009, 05:03 PM	#1471
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	The Big East with 3 number 1 seeds. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:03 PM	#1472
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Its an irrational dislike, but I love seeing Memphis not getting a top seed.

03-15-2009, 05:09 PM	#1473
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I would have flipflopped Pitt & UNC as 2 & 3 overall at this point but it really doesn't matter much since they would still matchup in the Final Four regardless. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 05:11 PM	#1474
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow Arizona gets grandfathered in

03-15-2009, 05:11 PM	#1475
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Arizona snuck into the tourney. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:11 PM	#1476
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	How did Arizona get in? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-15-2009, 05:11 PM	#1477
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Damn I was hoping Florida State would play in Miami. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:12 PM	#1478
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Louisville will smoke MSU __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-15-2009, 05:14 PM	#1479
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think I know what 12-5 upset everyone will pick

03-15-2009, 05:14 PM	#1480
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	This is not an easy bracket that's for sure. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:15 PM	#1481
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Arizona in = Maryland out? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 05:15 PM	#1482
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I like the OSU- Louisville potential matchup and WVU-KU would be a good game also

03-15-2009, 05:15 PM	#1483
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Man... Dayton w/ the #29 RPI is an 11-seed? Not a great matchup for WVU there. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-15-2009, 05:16 PM	#1485
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03-15-2009, 05:17 PM	#1486
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	West region coming up, I expect Washington to be the 4 seed there

03-15-2009, 05:18 PM	#1487
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Before I forget, let me mention how much I fucking hate the "pod" system. Philadelphia is the 1st & 2nd round site for the West regional = ridiculous __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 05:19 PM	#1489
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	and there we are. Man not an easy draw for UW. Miss St. in round one then Purdue. Sheesh

03-15-2009, 05:20 PM	#1490
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Maryland is in. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-15-2009, 05:20 PM	#1491
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Okay, so does Maryland in = Michigan/Minnesota out? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-15-2009, 05:20 PM	#1492
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think Minnesota is out