Werewolf XXXIX: The Lady of La Rochelle–GAME OVER.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Maybe. I think it's pretty suicidal for the wolves to leave the seer alive, though. I guess that Blade has cleared somebody he shouldn't have. Whether innocently or not, I don't know.

That's why I brought the issue of the black dressed man up. No one has commented on this yet.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

That's why I brought the issue of the black dressed man up. No one has commented on this yet.

Well, I don't know how to interpret it. It seems to fit with how Blade says his role works. But, it could also be a messenger from a real seer. Or, it could be something else.

[Tyrith]

I'm not going to say anything else on the matter until blade shows up.

[Fouts]

Lot of questions today;

Why won't Tyrith or Brian comment on the fact that both of them were supposedly at hoops' door on night 1?

Who is controlling path?

What will blade's reaction be when he arrives this morning?

What is Tyrith's reason for revealing so quickly? It appears he wanted to beat blade to the punch, but why would he need to?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Lot of questions today;

Why won't Tyrith or Brian comment on the fact that both of them were supposedly at hoops' door on night 1?

Who is controlling path?

What will blade's reaction be when he arrives this morning?

What is Tyrith's reason for revealing so quickly? It appears he wanted to beat blade to the punch, but why would he need to?

Dude, I ALREADY commented on hoops door night 1. TWICE.

And it was more beating hoops to the punch than blade, blade was just another reason.

[Fouts]

Well, I'm out for a few hours. I hope somebody can sort this all out while I'm gone.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Dude, I ALREADY commented on hoops door night 1. TWICE.

And it was more beating hoops to the punch than blade, blade was just another reason.

No, you commented on the hooker. Don't you find it curious that you and brian were at hoops door all night, but neither mentioned the other?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Fouts

No, you commented on the hooker. Don't you find it curious that you and brian were at hoops door all night, but neither mentioned the other?

I was gone for a while. *shrug* I don't stick around all night, just until I'm confidant that nothing bad is going to happen.

[Tyrith]

Actually, on night one I was at the door until dawn, so it must have been while I was taking my piss, which, seeing that the hooker snuck in and was already well engaged with hoops by the time I got back, must have been a REALLY LONG piss.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm going to conclude that you are on our side. I can't figure out a good reason for a musketeer to take 2 days off when he could be killing people.

He was just removed from the voting, we don't know if he had no night actions -- why couldn't he be a musketeer, be safe for two days from duels/lynches and kill at night?

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by path12

He was just removed from the voting, we don't know if he had no night actions -- why couldn't he be a musketeer, be safe for two days from duels/lynches and kill at night?

Too powerful, IMO.

Ok, I'm out of here for a few hours. I hope hoops and blade can sort this out.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Too powerful, IMO.

Ok, I'm out of here for a few hours. I hope hoops and blade can sort this out.

Powerful, yes. But we have some powerful good guys, do we not?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

He was just removed from the voting, we don't know if he had no night actions -- why couldn't he be a musketeer, be safe for two days from duels/lynches and kill at night?

I don't believe anybody can vouch for me. Were I in your shoes, I might worry about me having been converted. But I haven't been. Better to lynch me than somebody with a real role, though.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I don't believe anybody can vouch for me. Were I in your shoes, I might worry about me having been converted. But I haven't been. Better to lynch me than somebody with a real role, though.

I don't know that I really suspect you or not, I just don't think that we can rule you out like Fouts seemed to.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

I don't know that I really suspect you or not, I just don't think that we can rule you out like Fouts seemed to.

I think you and LSG might be the only people I am really comfortable ruling out. Maybe Fouts. So, I agree.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think you and LSG might be the only people I am really comfortable ruling out. Maybe Fouts. So, I agree.

Well, barring a lucky RNG, that'll be down to LSG and Fouts today. I am good in one of the swordplay categories but just average in everything else, so we'll see what happens.

[st.cronin]

I'm also confused as to why Tyrith is thinking he has to pre-empt hoopsguy. Does he think hoops has some new dirt on him? Does he think hoops was the man in black?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm also confused as to why Tyrith is thinking he has to pre-empt hoopsguy. Does he think hoops has some new dirt on him? Does he think hoops was the man in black?

No, but I think hoops was tired of me not talking about my role and was going to smoke me out today one way or another, so I figured I'd play nice and volunteer it before he started going to town on me.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

No, but I think hoops was tired of me not talking about my role and was going to smoke me out today one way or another, so I figured I'd play nice and volunteer it before he started going to town on me.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't really recall hoops being all worked up about you. I'd like to go back and look through some of the posts -- was this yesterday evening?

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I can move my vote, but it doesn't mean a damn thing without 1-2 other people coming into play.

As it sits right now, I believe Tyrith is the only player who hasn't said anything about his role. In fairness, he has not been around near the deadline. But we are at the end of Day 3, and the question was posed by both Dubb and I earlier today to the people who had no published info.

Well, OK, I see this from yesterday. And he did vote for you. But frankly, it's not really the level of 'hoops is going hard after me today', is it? And also, I don't think hoops is 100% trusted this game yet either, especially if Blade comes into some question based on your observation last night.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

Well, OK, I see this from yesterday. And he did vote for you. But frankly, it's not really the level of 'hoops is going hard after me today', is it? And also, I don't think hoops is 100% trusted this game yet either, especially if Blade comes into some question based on your observation last night.

I don't really understand how Blade has come into question based on what Tyrith has said. Are we just upset that the man was dressed in black?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by path12

Maybe it's just me, but I don't really recall hoops being all worked up about you. I'd like to go back and look through some of the posts -- was this yesterday evening?

It wasn't that he was all that worked up, but it was going to come up. I couldn't keep dodging the questions of who I am all day, I figured, without really getting us all off the right track. This way we can focus on other people, and I really don't lose that much considering how many people are left and what I'll be doing tonight.

[Tyrith]

I'm not saying that blade's bad, but this is something we at least have to look at, isn't it? Blade is fully capable of having had us fooled with what's he doing this entire time; it really hasn't been that much.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I'm not saying that blade's bad, but this is something we at least have to look at, isn't it? Blade is fully capable of having had us fooled with what's he doing this entire time; it really hasn't been that much.

I'm fine with this, I'm always suspicious of Blade, but I just don't see how what you saw last night means anything at all. It sounds like almost EXACTLY like what you would expect to see based on what Blade had said.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm fine with this, I'm always suspicious of Blade, but I just don't see how what you saw last night means anything at all. It sounds like almost EXACTLY like what you would expect to see based on what Blade had said.

Perhaps. I think it will be clearer whenever he tells us about his scan.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I don't really understand how Blade has come into question based on what Tyrith has said. Are we just upset that the man was dressed in black?

I don't think he's come into question yet, but it is a rather interesting observation that deserves some explanation IMO.

Also, I don't know for certain that Blade has been vouched for, has he?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by path12

Well, OK, I see this from yesterday. And he did vote for you. But frankly, it's not really the level of 'hoops is going hard after me today', is it? And also, I don't think hoops is 100% trusted this game yet either, especially if Blade comes into some question based on your observation last night.

I was definitely going after Tyrith last night and probably would have continued to ask him questions today. If I didn't like the answers, then I would have pushed harder.

Tyrith and I have played enough games, and chatted enough outside of other games, that I trust him when he says why he came forward with his information at the time he did.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Lot of questions today;

Why won't Tyrith or Brian comment on the fact that both of them were supposedly at hoops' door on night 1?

Who is controlling path?

What will blade's reaction be when he arrives this morning?

What is Tyrith's reason for revealing so quickly? It appears he wanted to beat blade to the punch, but why would he need to?

Sorry Fouts, I just saw this and your earlier question now. I've been dealing with some work projects off and on today.

I didn't stay at Hoops' door very long. I'm a fairly timid fellow and stick around just long enough to see who people are interacting with. The hooker was already there when I got there, but I didn't see any guard. I'm guessing that if I had seen a guard, I wouldn't have gone anywhere near the door. Maybe the leak in the plant was the perfect opportunity for the hooker to sneak in and me to hear her.

I still find it interesting that ntndeacon had been suspected earlier, and then got a hooker the same night that we only have one kill. I'm really starting to wonder if Dubb blocked ntndeacon's kill last night.

[BrianD]

I am a little surprised that everyone picked Hoops on night 1. The way I understand it, I listened at his door, Blade sent his spies there, Tyrith guarded his door, and Dubb sent a hooker. That really is quite a lot going on. I realize that Hoops is one of the most talkative players, but I'm surprised nobody sent anything to Blade or Alan.

[hoopsguy]

So everyone can agree I didn't leave my room on Night 1

[st.cronin]

I completely forgot ntndeacon was still around.

unvote Coffee Warlord
vote ntndeacon

[st.cronin]

hoops, what are your thoughts on what we should do today?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by BrianD

I am a little surprised that everyone picked Hoops on night 1. The way I understand it, I listened at his door, Blade sent his spies there, Tyrith guarded his door, and Dubb sent a hooker. That really is quite a lot going on. I realize that Hoops is one of the most talkative players, but I'm surprised nobody sent anything to Blade or Alan.

Um, a couple of people tried--and succeed--to KILL Alan night 1, if I recall :P

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Um, a couple of people tried--and succeed--to KILL Alan night 1, if I recall :P

Well, yes. I just seemed odd that all of the good guys went to Hoops and most of the bad guys went to Alan. I guess everyone just likes Hoops better.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Well, yes. I just seemed odd that all of the good guys went to Hoops and most of the bad guys went to Alan. I guess everyone just likes Hoops better.

[st.cronin]

It's also odd because my own perception is that Alan is more effective as a villain, and hoopsguy more effective as a villager. So, if I were a mouseketeer, I would be about 100 times more likely to target hoops than Alan.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

It's also odd because my own perception is that Alan is more effective as a villain, and hoopsguy more effective as a villager. So, if I were a mouseketeer, I would be about 100 times more likely to target hoops than Alan.

I'm still wondering if there wasn't a third faction making the second night kills.

[hoopsguy]

What to do today - well, I was waiting for Blade to show up to see if he had any information to share. Looks like he is viewing the thread now.

After that, I think we make a decision on duel vs single candidate as far as the vote today, followed pretty quickly by listing candidates.

[hoopsguy]

Also, it seems pretty clear that we are going to have a duel today. If that goes poorly we can also evaluate seeking duels, but I'm not sure how well that will turn out based on the lack of them during the first three days.

[Blade6119]

Catching up now, have about 15 minutes before i head out for lunch then ill be around to talk most of the afternoon i believe.

[Blade6119]

I had 2 visitors last night tyrith, not 1. One came twice, and the one you saw came once.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I had 2 visitors last night tyrith, not 1. One came twice, and the one you saw came once.

So what do you think abut Tyrith?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by BrianD

So what do you think abut Tyrith?

I think hes prob. good, as knowing who he saw if he was evil he wouldnt report it to you all.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I had 2 visitors last night tyrith, not 1. One came twice, and the one you saw came once.

So does that line up with Dubb sending you a visitor? And, if so, who the heck was visiting NTN, do they line up with Path's accounts, and who is sending them?

Blade, can you shed some light on the guy in black with the yellow flower who Tyrith witnessed?

[hoopsguy]

Also, can you clear another person for today, Blade?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I think hes prob. good, as knowing who he saw if he was evil he wouldnt report it to you all.

Blade, what happened last night?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I think hes prob. good, as knowing who he saw if he was evil he wouldnt report it to you all.

If he was guarding you, why would he see one person but not two?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by BrianD

If he was guarding you, why would he see one person but not two?

Same reason I didn't see you night one, probably; I don't catch all of his visitors, especially if they aren't there to cause trouble.

[Blade6119]

The first visitor(and last i guess) was my servant taking my order and then returning with the results. The 2nd visitor was a conversion attempt.

Now, i felt this was fairly well out there, but if im an ex-musketeer who sold them out with an uncontrollable rage, do you really think im going to be able to become a musketeer again? My role stipulates i cannot become a musketeer again. Of all the players alive, why try to convert me? I didnt tell you i couldnt be converted for just this reason, but im a little stunned they did actually try. Wouldnt my story kind of imply that im less likely to be converted then any other guard? No offense bad guys, but last night might have just cost you the game if that was a one-time power. I hate and hunt musketeers, why would i be able to become one again? *rant over*

My order for last night was briand, and he is not a musketeer. Therefore i trust him about his views of hoops, DT, and whoever he watched last night.

[Blade6119]

Ill be back in an hour