11-18-2017, 08:37 PM | #1451 | |
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11-18-2017, 08:57 PM | #1452 |
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Lots of anger in today's games. And here I am just watching for Indiana to lose out on a bowl game by getting beat by Purdue. I can feel it coming.
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11-18-2017, 09:35 PM | #1453 | |
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By him and his family, I was referring to him and his son who is our OC and his other sons that will soon be on the staff. And suck. I stand by my statement.
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11-18-2017, 09:36 PM | #1454 | |
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Purdue is terrible. Indiana will beat them by 20.
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11-18-2017, 09:50 PM | #1455 |
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Question of the day:
You just scored a TD. You are down 9 with a little over a minute left. Do you go for 2 now or kick it and hope to get the onside with a chance to tie? I really want your opinions on this. Please comment.
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11-18-2017, 09:53 PM | #1456 | |
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you go for 1 (to be down by 8) and then go for the onside with a chance to tie and then a chance to win in OT. if you go for 2 and make it then you still go for the onside but now with a chance to win in regulation. BUT...if you go for 2 now and dont convert, the game is over and the onside is pointless. Last edited by hollmt : 11-18-2017 at 09:54 PM. |
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11-18-2017, 10:55 PM | #1457 |
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UCLA falls. Between special teams and a special PAC-12 officiating performance, it was craptastic.
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11-18-2017, 11:42 PM | #1458 | |
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There are three sequences that result in positive outcomes: Kick the XP, recover the onside, score the TD, go for two, 50% to win in overtime Go for two, recover the onside, score the TD, kick the XP, 50% to win in overtime Go for two, recover the onside, score the TD, Go for two Options one and two are literally the same outcome in different order. So look at options two and three. Option 2, assuming no botched kick, is a 50-50 payoff, going to overtime. So if you think you're more than 50% likely to score on a two-point conversion, option 3 is superior to option 2, and therefore, superior to option 1. If you think you've got less than a 50% chance to score on the two, then you might as well get it out of the way early. Plus, you're Kirk Ferentz and you got shit on mightily for not going for it last year against Wisconsin, so maybe you roll the dice this time. |
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11-18-2017, 11:57 PM | #1459 |
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re: the 2 pt choices
I think you also have to take into consideration the feel of the moment. Do you have them on their heels, the defense reeling, and your TD came during a sequence where you can do no wrong with the ball? Or did you need 4 tries to punch it in from the one yard line? Is your OC screaming a play call in your headset? Or is he begging for a timeout so he can "figure something out"? Am I the underdog and the other guy still has confidence he can stop you? Or did making it close give him doubts & fill your team with confidence? I'm not sure there is an absolute always 100% choice on this question.
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11-18-2017, 11:59 PM | #1460 |
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Since Dan Guerrero took over as UCLA's AD in April 2002, UCLA football has accomplished the following:
1. UCLA's overall football record is 110-93 (54.2% winning percentage). 2. UCLA's league record is 69-70 (49.6% winning percentage). 3. UCLA has not won a conference championship. 4. UCLA is 4-12 against USC. Overall Record / League Record 2002: 8-5 / 4-4 2003: 6-7 / 4-4 2004: 6-6 / 4-4 2005: 10-2 / 6-2 2006: 7-6 / 5-4 2007: 6-7 / 5-4 2008: 4-8 / 3-6 2009: 7-6 / 3-6 2010: 4-8 / 2-7 2011: 6-8 / 5-4 2012: 9-5 / 6-3 2013: 10-3 / 6-3 2014: 10-3 / 6-3 2015: 8-5 / 5-4 2016: 4-8 / 2-7 2017: 5-6 / 3-5 |
11-19-2017, 12:01 AM | #1461 |
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No. The team ran a slow 2 minute offensive drive. Punched it in on 4th down. From about the 9 yard line.
The HC is a 19 year veteran HC. Whose team hasnt produced the whole game. The other team is not on their heels. There were no doubts on the other side. They were extremely confident. Yes. Iowa pulled this tonight. Iowa wasnt going to get 2 onsides. Or 1 for that matter.
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11-19-2017, 12:04 AM | #1462 | |
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Then, down 9 after the TD ... I kick to make it 8. edit to add: I say that having absolutely no idea what Iowa did
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11-19-2017, 12:05 AM | #1463 |
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Shoot Maryland has more conference championships in all sports in the B1G than Iowa does since Iowa hired Gary Barta. That was 2006. Maryland joined the B1G in 2014.
Oh yeah. Barta has given KF a lifetime contract that guarantees him 100% of his contract fromn 2022 to 2026 each time he wins 7 games through 2021. And I just found out KF gets a $500k bonus each year he wins 8. Our AD sucks.
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11-19-2017, 12:05 AM | #1464 | |
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Went for 2. And failed. Game over.
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11-19-2017, 12:06 AM | #1465 |
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Maybe he just didn't want people to complain about how long games last these days
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11-19-2017, 12:10 AM | #1466 |
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Tough one. Id lean towards going for two but with Iowa's playbook I might reconsider. Id probably try some sort of unintentional/intentional pick play and hope to get away with it, if a penalty was called Id just boot the extra point. As a head coach I would want my coordinators very efficient in these situations so I had the confidence to call for 2.
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11-19-2017, 02:33 AM | #1467 | |
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Go for two. Better to know early what you need to win the game. |
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11-19-2017, 09:09 AM | #1468 | |
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You would know that with the almost sure thing XP. And you would still have a chance to win. Fail on the 2 pt conversion and you know its nearly impossible to win.
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11-19-2017, 09:15 AM | #1469 | |
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Exactly. You always get as much information as possible as soon as possible. Go for 2 early to know how you need to coach the rest of the game instead of hoping to get 2 the next time and the being in a pinch if you don't get it. |
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11-19-2017, 09:47 AM | #1470 | |
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So what? It's nearly impossible to win is you miss the 2 point conversion after getting an onside kick and scoring a touchdown. Why is it better if you know that later rather than right away. You're better off knowing if you're if your 2 point conversion was successful early. It's still incredibly difficult either way, but a team is in a better position if they know they need two scores in a minute so if they recover the onside so they can attempt the field goal as soon as they move the ball into table range. |
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11-19-2017, 11:10 AM | #1471 |
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Bama 4 point favorites over Auburn. Same spread as it was against Georgia.
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11-19-2017, 11:20 AM | #1472 | |
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Indeed, plus IMO it is easier to convert 2 point conversions the more points you are down as the defense isnt quite as focused(at least thats the logic in my head which I have no data to actually prove) Last edited by jbergey22 : 11-19-2017 at 11:20 AM. |
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11-19-2017, 01:22 PM | #1473 |
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UCLA is going to eat Mora's buyout. They fired him
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11-19-2017, 05:07 PM | #1474 | |
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Interesting. Not bad logic, at all. When we were going for 2, my thought was, we are playing to win. You know, 2 2 point conversions win the game. But then I remembered it was Iowa.
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11-19-2017, 07:14 PM | #1475 |
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That's some serious coin. Guess some big pocket boosters must have stepped-up, but a bit surprised they didn't also insist on Guerrero getting the boot too.
Have to admit I'm a bit nervous that UCLA will finally hire the right guy and that program will finally take off. They're up against some serious competition though. |
11-19-2017, 09:19 PM | #1476 |
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Looks like Chip Kelly to Florida.
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11-19-2017, 09:26 PM | #1477 |
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11-19-2017, 09:33 PM | #1478 |
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Hmmm.. but maybe not cuz of UCLA?
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11-19-2017, 09:57 PM | #1479 |
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He's meeting with UCLA tomorrow. He could very well still squeeze some extra money out of Florida.
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11-20-2017, 12:18 PM | #1480 |
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What happens in the following scenario:
- Alabama wins out (Auburn gets loss 3, UGA gets loss 2) - Miami wins out (Clemson gets loss 2, and for fun let's say its close) - Oklahoma wins out (TCU gets loss 3) - Ohio St beats Wisconsin Who's #4? Ohio St, Wisconsin, or Clemson? I would assume Ohio St would jump ND even if they crushed Stanford, so I don't even have them in the discussion. I would think it would be Ohio St since they beat an undefeated team at the end of season, while Wisconsin and Clemson lost at the end. Last edited by bob : 11-20-2017 at 12:21 PM. |
11-20-2017, 12:19 PM | #1481 |
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Alabama gets a bye and is declared national champion for life?
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11-20-2017, 12:19 PM | #1482 |
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I wouldn't rule out UCLA for Chip. Florida is obviously a great spot because of the talent nearby, but UCLA is also in a talent hotspot, and he has more of a history with recruiting in that part of the country. Chip might also look at UCLA and think the path to a national championship is a bit easier through the Pac-12 than the SEC. And while the L.A. media will put him in a massive fishbowl of attention, I'm not sure coaching a high-profile SEC team would really feel much different in that regard.
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11-20-2017, 12:23 PM | #1483 | |
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Wisconsin is definitely out in this scenario. The committee will not consider 1 loss vs 2 loss as big a gap as 1 loss for 0 losses.
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11-20-2017, 02:21 PM | #1484 |
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tOSU is in. That is the scenario tOSU needs to happen.
Then we can laugh at Crescent as he cries about a 2 loss B1G team in the playoffs.
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11-20-2017, 02:31 PM | #1485 | |
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Clemson. Ohio St would still have lost to a mediocre Iowa team and gotten handled by 15 against Oklahoma. Clemson would have 1 loss to an undefeated ACC champ and 1 without their QB playing. |
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11-20-2017, 02:35 PM | #1486 | |
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Dunno what happens, what should happen is Bama, Miami, OU, Clemson I'm okay with Miami/OU in either order there honestly.
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11-20-2017, 03:19 PM | #1487 |
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Iwa/Nebby in the Suck bowl Friday. The good thing about this is I will be at my relatives in Iowa at a gender reveal party my nephew and his wife is throwing.
Iwa needs to figure out how to score more then they have been. We have 1 offensive TD in the last 8 quarters of play.
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11-20-2017, 03:31 PM | #1488 | |
This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off.
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According to my brother, it's a done deal to UF but they are waiting until the end of the season on Saturday to avoid a timing issue on payments from SF if he was hired during "this season." UF's season ends Saturday.
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11-20-2017, 03:39 PM | #1489 | |
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Damn, that's almost Tennessee bad.
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11-20-2017, 03:57 PM | #1490 | |
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Dont know what happens but Id hope Clemson is left out. A 2 loss team doesnt deserve to be in there. I'd petition for UGA, UCF or USF over a 2 loss OSU or Clemson. Last edited by CU Tiger : 11-20-2017 at 04:00 PM. |
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11-20-2017, 03:58 PM | #1491 |
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This is what happens when nepotism rears its ugly head.
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11-20-2017, 04:03 PM | #1492 |
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11-20-2017, 04:09 PM | #1493 |
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I would agree with UCF.
I dont think a non-conference champ will be allowed in anymore. Even though tOSU won the title after not winning the conference. That scenario gets tOSU in. Seems the committee likes 5* players more than anything.
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11-20-2017, 05:13 PM | #1494 | |
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11-20-2017, 06:56 PM | #1495 |
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I guess technically, they haven't. Seems like an awful lot of noise about it. It just hasn't happened officially so the rumors can't be confirmed yet.
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11-20-2017, 07:02 PM | #1496 |
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It seems just off that random blogs would have it and not anything more concrete than that. Especially since 6 guys flew up to his house.
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11-20-2017, 07:37 PM | #1497 | |
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Yeah the Florida board has been on this one for a while. Tennessee guys were certain they had Gruden and then they reported he eventually turned them down. Will be interesting to see who lands there. |
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11-20-2017, 07:53 PM | #1498 |
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A board member has apparently said BB is gone soon (along with the AD who was canned a week ago).
My guess is Fri's game against MO is his last game. Pretty crappy that it has leaked. What harm is there to wait till after the last game. |
11-20-2017, 08:00 PM | #1499 | |
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11-20-2017, 08:02 PM | #1500 |
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North Dakota State is the #2 seed in the FCS Tournament. It means that they get to host all of their playoffs games until the Championship game.
Their path this year looks better than last year's did. The toughest game might be facing South Dakota State, in Fargo in the Quarter Finals. SDSU beat us in Brookings earlier this year, so there would be a score to settle. The Semi's might see Jacksonville St, a team they beat for the title 2 years ago. Defending champ James Madision (who knocked out NDSU last year) went undefeated, is the #1 seed and presumably would be the opponent for the title. If you guys want a real tournament, FCS is where it's at. It's hard to argue with a real 24 team tournament. There are plenty of great story lines in this one. http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/ar...h-dakota-state
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