Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533 - Page 30

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 06:11 PM

Talgian, I'll look forward to playing another game with you sometime. Mabye we'll end up on the same team in that one.

Raiders Army · 07-13-2006, 06:14 PM

just got on. need to take kids swimming. be back in an hour.

Bek · 07-13-2006, 06:22 PM

im here and catching up on todays events as of yet

Barkeep49 · 07-13-2006, 06:22 PM

Swaggs you still have your AP.

Also, it looks like I am going to do some actual work tonight so my availability from 8-9:30 will be nonexistant.

path12 · 07-13-2006, 06:23 PM

I'm out to go golfing. Back later tonight.

Fouts · 07-13-2006, 06:25 PM

I'm not sure why there is a need for the slaves to die. Talgian wants them dead, hoops keeps saying some (but not all) of the slaves are infected. What am I missing?

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 06:26 PM

Does anyone think it would be beneficial for me to kill one of the slaves that went on a mission the first day, or should I hold and guard tonight?

If we are killing all the slaves today, I guess neither of my options would matter.

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Swaggs you still have your AP.

Also, it looks like I am going to do some actual work tonight so my availability from 8-9:30 will be nonexistant.

Which would mean I have mine as well.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm not sure why there is a need for the slaves to die. Talgian wants them dead, hoops keeps saying some (but not all) of the slaves are infected. What am I missing?

I'm not sure either. If the slaves are safely locked up in the pen, I don't see what they can do, other than infect other slaves--which shouldn't matter a whole lot at this point, unless they have some powers or abilities that I am not aware of.

Barkeep49 · 07-13-2006, 06:29 PM

Did I make a mistake? My spreadsheet with recorded actions is at home but I didn't reacall Swaggs going on an away mission today.

Barkeep49 · 07-13-2006, 06:30 PM

See that's what happens when you make announcements without records. Swaggs has used his AP, as have all who have gone on away missions.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm not sure why there is a need for the slaves to die. Talgian wants them dead, hoops keeps saying some (but not all) of the slaves are infected. What am I missing?

That's the thing, we don't completely know. We don't know what happens when the slaves riot. The game says they are bred to be strong and angry, so that sounds like to me they cause damage to persons and/or rooms. Plus, we don't know what happens if an infected slave riots. I like to play things safe, and they are patently unsafe to keep around right now. We have 5 possible guards, all of whom are wounded, exhausted, or even both. We have no phasers. We need to minimize what has to be kept safe.

-Talgian

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

That's the thing, we don't completely know. We don't know what happens when the slaves riot. The game says they are bred to be strong and angry, so that sounds like to me they cause damage to persons and/or rooms. Plus, we don't know what happens if an infected slave riots. I like to play things safe, and they are patently unsafe to keep around right now. We have 5 possible guards, all of whom are wounded, exhausted, or even both. We have no phasers. We need to minimize what has to be kept safe.

-Talgian

Am I missing something? From what I can tell, they can only riot if their pen is in a state of disrepair.

In addition to losing their services, we render a pefectly conditioned location useless (which will give the spawns one less thing to destroy, since we will have pretty well ruined its function ourselves), and it takes away my ability to perform a night action and perhaps gather some information.

Killing them off pre-emptively makes no sense to me, so please explain.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Am I missing something? From what I can tell, they can only riot if their pen is in a state of disrepair...

...Killing them off pre-emptively makes no sense to me, so please explain.

My train of thought is that the spawn may attack the pens tonight. An attack on the pens tonight means rioting slaves tomorrow. We don't know how much that could hurt us, but we're so close to leaving, it seems foolish to leave open any avenues of harm.

-Talgian

Bek · 07-13-2006, 06:40 PM

wow...very interestng day...at this point i am still thinking things over...but atm im certain about one thing....
Vote Hoopsguy

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 06:41 PM

honestly I think the slaves are of no use to us anymore too.

we need 3 chrys. for liftoff...if we can't get that in a group of 3 of us tomorrow we're in bigger trouble.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 06:46 PM

Back in an hour, don't pose all your questions at once

KWhit · 07-13-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Back in an hour, don't pose all your questions at once

Hoops, you're funny.

I guess you're not the Unaware Spawn like I thought.

bulletsponge · 07-13-2006, 06:52 PM

well whomever is in charge or can kill the slaves can kill them. i understand the risks of keeping them alive, but i just hate to loose a potential asset when we might need them. we dont know what might happen tonight and we might need to do more than just get a few crystalthingies tomorow

bulletsponge · 07-13-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Hoops how many spawns are there? and do you know who the Overlord is?

*takes answers with a grain of salt* but still interested in hoops answers

Hoops if you want a question you can answer mine i posted earier i think you missed

KWhit · 07-13-2006, 06:53 PM

I haven't decided what I think about killing the slaves yet. I see both sides of it, but I'm leaning toward keeping them alive one more day.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

and do you know who the Overlord is?

WSUCOOPER. He signed up for the game but wasn't given a public role.
If you meant the queen, I have no idea.

-Talgian

Abe Sargent · 07-13-2006, 06:56 PM

BK - I don't ever remember you announcing me going off to repair, did you get my PM?

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I haven't decided what I think about killing the slaves yet. I see both sides of it, but I'm leaning toward keeping them alive one more day.

Why? Like the first officer, one could even say mission planner, said, if we can't get 3 more crystal, we're in worse shape than we thought. No need to make that even worse with living, troublesome slaves.

-Talgian

KWhit · 07-13-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

WSUCOOPER.

That makes me laugh.

It's WSUCougar.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

well whomever is in charge or can kill the slaves can kill them. i understand the risks of keeping them alive, but i just hate to loose a potential asset when we might need them. we dont know what might happen tonight and we might need to do more than just get a few crystalthingies tomorow

That is my thinking, as well. The captain can kill the slaves at any point, as far as I can tell. But tomorrow, we could need them if we are running low on water or don't get all the crystilium we need.

To me, the thing to measure is that how probably is an attack against the slave pen, while it is being guarded, versus their other options. I like having the benefits the slaves bring us + giving the spawn an extra location to have to worry about over the risk of the captain having to potentially use his AP points to kill them, should the pen get damaged.

That is my last set of thoughts on the subject. I guess I am glad that I don't have to make the choice.

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

WSUCOOPER.

-Talgian

ohhhhhh, you are going to feel his wrath now

Alan T · 07-13-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

ohhhhhh, you are going to feel his wrath now

Can I get the bunk on the opposite side of the room from him??

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

ohhhhhh, you are going to feel his wrath now

Eep! I see now it's spelled WSUCougar.

Please don't hurt me.

-Talgian

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:00 PM

well the day cycle is almost up and Kwhit still has all his AP (if I'm correct in my caculations, which I've been wrong before)

water isn't a worry yet...I believe the rules say 2 days without water if we need

I say we mine tomorrow and try to lift off if we can't I guess we go back to the Wig and then get the F off this place and fast.

Fouts · 07-13-2006, 07:00 PM

I think the slaves might be needed for mining. If we send one scientist to the Wig, and one scientist to research the spawn corpses here, we could need some muscle to grab more crystilium.

WSUCougar · 07-13-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

WSUCOOPER. He signed up for the game but wasn't given a public role.
If you meant the queen, I have no idea.

-Talgian

Watch it there, Calgon...or Talcompowder...or Stygian...or whomever.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 07:02 PM

Unlike some, I don't feel very confident that the game ends once we get 60+ crystalium.

In my mind, we are most likely going to get hit in the engines at some point in the very near future and are likely going to have to deal with the overlord, via the side quest of finding and investigating the Wig. If our ship gets damaged, our water supply is going to come into play.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 07:03 PM

I guess it depends on whether you seem them as a potential asset or a potential risk. I look around and see we need 3 crystal. We can get that ourselves, easy. We don't need the slaves for it. So, they have no real way of being an asset, and are therefore nothing but a potential risk. Even more so since their negative effects are so ambigious.

-Talgian

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:04 PM

here's another thought for killing the slaves today...Swaggs could then be promoted to Warden tomorrow by the 2nd officer since we in all likely hood will be offing Chubby

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Unlike some, I don't feel very confident that the game ends once we get 60+ crystalium.

In my mind, we are most likely going to get hit in the engines at some point in the very near future and are likely going to have to deal with the overlord, via the side quest of finding and investigating the Wig. If our ship gets damaged, our water supply is going to come into play.

I don't think anyone believes the game ends at 60 crystal, or even at lift off. But being off planet is surely safer than being on, no? Also, if the slaves are dead, it's one less place that needs repair if the engines or water plant are hit, not to mention one less place to guard.

-Talgian

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

here's another thought for killing the slaves today...Swaggs could then be promoted to Warden tomorrow by the 2nd officer since we in all likely hood will be offing Chubby

Not a bad thought on using personnel, but it would take an extra day to go into effect since the promotion doesn't become valid until the following day cycle.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 07:09 PM

Maybe I have misinterpreted "Lift Off," but from reading it, I take it as meaning that we have what we came from and we are taking the hell off and the game is over.

Looking at it again, does it mean that are just put in a suspended state until we weed out the spawn?

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:10 PM

we also still have a miricle worker role that can help us if the chrys. or water are attacked and diminished.

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Maybe I have misinterpreted "Lift Off," but from reading it, I take it as meaning that we have what we came from and we are taking the hell off and the game is over.

Looking at it again, does it mean that are just put in a suspended state until we weed out the spawn?

correct...we lift off, but still have to eliminate the spawn and keep them from adding new members too!!!

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:11 PM

dola - once we lift off it prevents the spawn from adding new members

done to clarify my last post

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 07:12 PM

also from reading the rules kwhit will have 3 AP at night and can kill the slaves then too.

Raiders Army · 07-13-2006, 07:16 PM

The only problem I have with all of this is the machinations of everyone. We seem to have a plan, but it's public. It also seems as if certain individuals are pushing us to do certain things. When it looks as if we have things well in hand, that's when I'm most worried. This seems too easy. My spider sense is going off.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 07:16 PM

Can I be promoted today, so that it will go into effect for tomorrow?

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Can I be promoted today, so that it will go into effect for tomorrow?

Sadly, no. I lost my AP on the away mission.
-Talgian

Alan T · 07-13-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Can I be promoted today, so that it will go into effect for tomorrow?

I asked about something like this earlier today but no one really responded. I think the second officer needs an AP to do this though, which I dont think he has today

Fouts · 07-13-2006, 07:29 PM

Last game we left the planet and we had to keep water from people because we were running out. Not looking forward to that again. I think it is a moot point though. This game has more to do with planetside things, like the Overlord and The Wig.

Raiders Army · 07-13-2006, 07:41 PM

Okay. It seems as if my work is done here tonight, although I'm still concerned with the way things are going. Hopefully we made the right choice with hoops. My beer-addled mind is not helping either.

Alan T · 07-13-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Okay. It seems as if my work is done here tonight, although I'm still concerned with the way things are going. Hopefully we made the right choice with hoops. My beer-addled mind is not helping either.

Why would you say this?

Everyone has voted for hoops. he's confessed.. why would he be the wrong choice?

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 08:10 PM

This whole "lift off" concept adds an entirely different dynamic to the game.

Is it fair to say that we can no longer mine once we have lifted off? If that is the case, our water will be in short supply in a hurry if we don't lynch a spawn nearly every time. Not much room to breathe.

07-13-2006, 06:23 PM	#1455
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm out to go golfing. Back later tonight. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-13-2006, 06:26 PM	#1457
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Does anyone think it would be beneficial for me to kill one of the slaves that went on a mission the first day, or should I hold and guard tonight? If we are killing all the slaves today, I guess neither of my options would matter. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 06:56 PM	#1473
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	BK - I don't ever remember you announcing me going off to repair, did you get my PM? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-13-2006, 07:02 PM	#1483
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Unlike some, I don't feel very confident that the game ends once we get 60+ crystalium. In my mind, we are most likely going to get hit in the engines at some point in the very near future and are likely going to have to deal with the overlord, via the side quest of finding and investigating the Wig. If our ship gets damaged, our water supply is going to come into play. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 07:09 PM	#1488
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Maybe I have misinterpreted "Lift Off," but from reading it, I take it as meaning that we have what we came from and we are taking the hell off and the game is over. Looking at it again, does it mean that are just put in a suspended state until we weed out the spawn? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 06:11 PM	#1451
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Talgian, I'll look forward to playing another game with you sometime. Mabye we'll end up on the same team in that one.

07-13-2006, 06:14 PM	#1452
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	just got on. need to take kids swimming. be back in an hour.

07-13-2006, 06:22 PM	#1453
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	im here and catching up on todays events as of yet

07-13-2006, 06:22 PM	#1454
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Swaggs you still have your AP. Also, it looks like I am going to do some actual work tonight so my availability from 8-9:30 will be nonexistant.

07-13-2006, 06:25 PM	#1456
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm not sure why there is a need for the slaves to die. Talgian wants them dead, hoops keeps saying some (but not all) of the slaves are infected. What am I missing?

07-13-2006, 06:29 PM	#1460
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Did I make a mistake? My spreadsheet with recorded actions is at home but I didn't reacall Swaggs going on an away mission today.

07-13-2006, 06:30 PM	#1461
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	See that's what happens when you make announcements without records. Swaggs has used his AP, as have all who have gone on away missions.

07-13-2006, 06:40 PM	#1465
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	wow...very interestng day...at this point i am still thinking things over...but atm im certain about one thing.... Vote Hoopsguy

07-13-2006, 06:41 PM	#1466
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	honestly I think the slaves are of no use to us anymore too. we need 3 chrys. for liftoff...if we can't get that in a group of 3 of us tomorrow we're in bigger trouble.

07-13-2006, 06:46 PM	#1467
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Back in an hour, don't pose all your questions at once

07-13-2006, 06:52 PM	#1469
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	well whomever is in charge or can kill the slaves can kill them. i understand the risks of keeping them alive, but i just hate to loose a potential asset when we might need them. we dont know what might happen tonight and we might need to do more than just get a few crystalthingies tomorow

07-13-2006, 06:53 PM	#1471
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I haven't decided what I think about killing the slaves yet. I see both sides of it, but I'm leaning toward keeping them alive one more day.

07-13-2006, 07:00 PM	#1480
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	well the day cycle is almost up and Kwhit still has all his AP (if I'm correct in my caculations, which I've been wrong before) water isn't a worry yet...I believe the rules say 2 days without water if we need I say we mine tomorrow and try to lift off if we can't I guess we go back to the Wig and then get the F off this place and fast.

07-13-2006, 07:00 PM	#1481
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I think the slaves might be needed for mining. If we send one scientist to the Wig, and one scientist to research the spawn corpses here, we could need some muscle to grab more crystilium.

07-13-2006, 07:03 PM	#1484
Talgian H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2006	I guess it depends on whether you seem them as a potential asset or a potential risk. I look around and see we need 3 crystal. We can get that ourselves, easy. We don't need the slaves for it. So, they have no real way of being an asset, and are therefore nothing but a potential risk. Even more so since their negative effects are so ambigious. -Talgian

07-13-2006, 07:04 PM	#1485
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	here's another thought for killing the slaves today...Swaggs could then be promoted to Warden tomorrow by the 2nd officer since we in all likely hood will be offing Chubby

07-13-2006, 07:10 PM	#1489
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	we also still have a miricle worker role that can help us if the chrys. or water are attacked and diminished.

07-13-2006, 07:11 PM	#1491
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	dola - once we lift off it prevents the spawn from adding new members done to clarify my last post

07-13-2006, 07:12 PM	#1492
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	also from reading the rules kwhit will have 3 AP at night and can kill the slaves then too.

07-13-2006, 07:16 PM	#1493
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	The only problem I have with all of this is the machinations of everyone. We seem to have a plan, but it's public. It also seems as if certain individuals are pushing us to do certain things. When it looks as if we have things well in hand, that's when I'm most worried. This seems too easy. My spider sense is going off.

07-13-2006, 07:16 PM	#1494
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Can I be promoted today, so that it will go into effect for tomorrow? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 07:29 PM	#1497
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Last game we left the planet and we had to keep water from people because we were running out. Not looking forward to that again. I think it is a moot point though. This game has more to do with planetside things, like the Overlord and The Wig.

07-13-2006, 07:41 PM	#1498
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Okay. It seems as if my work is done here tonight, although I'm still concerned with the way things are going. Hopefully we made the right choice with hoops. My beer-addled mind is not helping either.

07-13-2006, 08:10 PM	#1500
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	This whole "lift off" concept adds an entirely different dynamic to the game. Is it fair to say that we can no longer mine once we have lifted off? If that is the case, our water will be in short supply in a hurry if we don't lynch a spawn nearly every time. Not much room to breathe. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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