The Official 2013 MLB Thread - Page 30

Crapshoot · 08-02-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I have no faith in Selig, and little interest in baseball these days anyways, but if he doesn't drop the ban-hammer on ARoid I think I'm done.

Fact - I'd be all for dropping the ban-hammer on all the steroid-users under the "best interests of the game" clause and fuck the MLBPA and their whining and their threats of strike. Let the players strike, bring in replacement players. Fine by me.

"Negotiating" suspensions with guilty parties is fucking spineless and laughable.

Yeah, fuck everyone and their contracts - we should have some guy on a message board take your guaranteed money BECAUSE I SAID SO.

Lathum · 08-02-2013, 10:01 PM

FMl. David Wright pulls a hammy in a game that shouldn't even be going on still.

TroyF · 08-02-2013, 10:19 PM

At the Angels game tonight. The lf just made a sensational catch for the home club.

sterlingice · 08-02-2013, 11:06 PM

Royals and Indians end their winning streaks tonight

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-03-2013, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Royals and Indians end their winning streaks tonight

SI

Don't know why the hell Yost insisted on putting Mendoza out there. The bullpen is well rested thanks to what the starters have done this year. Put the good pitchers in there and keep the game going.

Dutch · 08-03-2013, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I have no faith in Selig, and little interest in baseball these days anyways, but if he doesn't drop the ban-hammer on ARoid I think I'm done.

Fact - I'd be all for dropping the ban-hammer on all the steroid-users under the "best interests of the game" clause and fuck the MLBPA and their whining and their threats of strike. Let the players strike, bring in replacement players. Fine by me.

"Negotiating" suspensions with guilty parties is fucking spineless and laughable.

If the MLB is truly serious about this, I would recommend that all guaranteed money owed to any guilty steroid users is not returned to the team that signed them. All banned player contract money should be turned over to charity or dispersed among all non-cheating players on the team the cheaters have hurt. Or better yet, dispersed among all players of the guilty team's division rivals. That would get everybody on board with crushing steroid use in baseball. I don't see how we correct this problem by giving the money back to the Yankees so they can just go out and sign some other cheater.

miami_fan · 08-03-2013, 08:34 AM

As a Marlins fan, I want to get ahead of the curve.

What are teams offering for Jose Fernandez?

Jas_lov · 08-03-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

If the MLB is truly serious about this, I would recommend that all guaranteed money owed to any guilty steroid users is not returned to the team that signed them. All banned player contract money should be turned over to charity or dispersed among all non-cheating players on the team the cheaters have hurt. Or better yet, dispersed among all players of the guilty team's division rivals. That would get everybody on board with crushing steroid use in baseball. I don't see how we correct this problem by giving the money back to the Yankees so they can just go out and sign some other cheater.

But it's likely the team's division rivals had cheaters as well. Why give the Yankees money to the Red Sox when they have Big Papi, a caught cheater. The Rays signed Manny in 2011, a caught cheater. The Blue Jays signed Melky Cabrera in the offseason, a caught cheater. You'd never be able to figure out the players who aren't cheating.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-03-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

FMl. David Wright pulls a hammy in a game that shouldn't even be going on still.

15 day DL as of this afternoon btw

Vince, Pt. II · 08-03-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

At the Angels game tonight. The lf just made a sensational catch for the home club.

That catch was insane.

BishopMVP · 08-03-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

That catch was insane.

What's the rule here? If you don't have to land in the field of play, does anything prevent a fielder from climbing over the wall and standing in the 2nd row to make a catch?

bob · 08-03-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

What's the rule here? If you don't have to land in the field of play, does anything prevent a fielder from climbing over the wall and standing in the 2nd row to make a catch?

Yeah, i never really thought about it much, but would have always thought this was a homerun.

MizzouRah · 08-03-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

What's the rule here? If you don't have to land in the field of play, does anything prevent a fielder from climbing over the wall and standing in the 2nd row to make a catch?

I believe if your momentum carries you over the wall, it's a catch. You can't jump over the wall and catch it.

bhlloy · 08-03-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bob

Yeah, i never really thought about it much, but would have always thought this was a homerun.

If it's not a foul ball when players go into the stands all the time in that situation, why would that be a home run?

Vince, Pt. II · 08-03-2013, 02:48 PM

Yeah, he's not out of play until he lands. That's why the runner gets 2nd base.

bob · 08-03-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

If it's not a foul ball when players go into the stands all the time in that situation, why would that be a home run?

Oh, i agree my brain had a double standard there.

PilotMan · 08-03-2013, 04:25 PM

Samardzija's stuff is moving all over today, just not to much of it over the plate. He's got crazy movement on his pitches though.

TroyF · 08-03-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I believe if your momentum carries you over the wall, it's a catch. You can't jump over the wall and catch it.

I will admit o having no idea about the rule. Obviously, it is something that happens every decade or so. Kid made a hell of a play. The runner advancing to second ended up scoring on a single.

It was REALLY easy seeing why these two teams are such failures this year. Forget injuries, pitching or underperforming players. I saw no less than 7 baserunning mistakes between the two teams that would have a high school player benched. The Angles ran themselves out of at least three runs last night.

Dutch · 08-03-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

But it's likely the team's division rivals had cheaters as well. Why give the Yankees money to the Red Sox when they have Big Papi, a caught cheater. The Rays signed Manny in 2011, a caught cheater. The Blue Jays signed Melky Cabrera in the offseason, a caught cheater. You'd never be able to figure out the players who aren't cheating.

Never said only the Yankees have cheaters. I said penalize them as they occur by dishing that money out to your rivals. The Rays will gladly accept $12M of additional payroll from the Yankees from A-Rod banishement. Manny signed for 2 years $6M or something like that with the Rays. So that means the Yankees would get $1M back at the point of that suspension. Big deal, right? But the big money these roided-up guys are making would dry up as the big payroll teams Yankees/Red Sox/Phillies/Dodgers would not even risk sending those big checks to the Rays or A's of the league....too risky. And 'roids would be relegated to hangers-on rather than the stars of the league that play at those big clubs.

cartman · 08-03-2013, 08:28 PM

A pitcher in AA recorded a one-pitch strikeout.

Minor leaguer records one-pitch K

SirFozzie · 08-03-2013, 09:29 PM

Pretty damn good start for Peavy, 7 innings + (think they left him in a bit too long, which led him getting tagged for a second run when relievers let in a run in the 8th), 2 R, 2 BB, 4 Hits, 7 K's

Of course, Iglesias goes deep for Detroit, so I guess the trade's working out for everyone

PilotMan · 08-03-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

A pitcher in AA recorded a one-pitch strikeout.

Minor leaguer records one-pitch K

cuervo72 · 08-03-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

A pitcher in AA recorded a one-pitch strikeout.

Minor leaguer records one-pitch K

Bah, Bugs Bunny struck out the side on one pitch.

korme · 08-04-2013, 02:38 PM

The Cards really handed us our asses Friday and today. Jeez.

MrBug708 · 08-04-2013, 03:58 PM

The Dodgers have gone 7 1/3 innings without getting an assisted out made on them

MrBug708 · 08-04-2013, 04:39 PM

So in the Dodgers-Cubs game earlier, Hanley walked and the Cubs catcher, Wellington Castro, decided to break the bat by slamming it on the ground afterwards. Very odd play

SackAttack · 08-04-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

So in the Dodgers-Cubs game earlier, Hanley walked and the Cubs catcher, Wellington Castro, decided to break the bat by slamming it on the ground afterwards. Very odd play

Dioner Navarro.

MrBug708 · 08-04-2013, 05:15 PM

Ah, couldnt remember who was starting

JPhillips · 08-04-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by korme

The Cards really handed us our asses Friday and today. Jeez.

I still think they'll be in the wild card game, and they've got the pitching to make a run, but they just aren't good enough to win the Central this year.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-04-2013, 06:58 PM

AP reporting that ARod will be allowed to play through his appeal.

If so, I'd say you can forget about any substantial change in player behavior until the appeal is settled (as well as the civil suits that will likely follow).

SackAttack · 08-04-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Ah, couldnt remember who was starting

I know, it's really hard to look up the box score at Yahoo! MLB. It's a Herculean task. I don't blame you for ducking it.

cartman · 08-04-2013, 10:52 PM

Tomorrow is going be Dali-esque in baseball.

larrymcg421 · 08-04-2013, 11:13 PM

Braves.

SirFozzie · 08-05-2013, 02:57 AM

The current espn.com headline is about the Royals hot run, but, um, I think the title is about as backhanded a compliment as you can get before it becomes a straight backhand.

"Wait, you're still here?"

DaddyTorgo · 08-05-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Tomorrow is going be Dali-esque in baseball.

//chanting

Lifetime...ban...lifetime...ban

//end chanting

I have a feeling I'll be disappointed though.

spleen1015 · 08-05-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

//chanting

Lifetime...ban...lifetime...ban

//end chanting

I have a feeling I'll be disappointed though.

Rest of this season and all of next season. He'll appeal it and get to play a few games before he's gone.

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 08-05-2013, 08:47 AM

As a Sox fan, you are rooting against your own interests if you want a lifetime ban. Would rather have them paying for him in 2015 and him getting booed out of the house at home (or, more realistically, released) but still have him count against the luxury tax.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-05-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The current espn.com headline is about the Royals hot run, but, um, I think the title is about as backhanded a compliment as you can get before it becomes a straight backhand.

"Wait, you're still here?"

I'll take backhanded compliments in August over getting excited about NFL training camp anyday.

These kind of tweets erase any cares about backhanded compliments.....

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(@ErvinSantana_54): KC Fans, I hope you are proud of your Royals. We want to bring you a pennant!

Let's go, baby!!!!!

molson · 08-05-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs3

As a Sox fan, you are rooting against your own interests if you want a lifetime ban. Would rather have them paying for him in 2015 and him getting booed out of the house at home (or, more realistically, released) but still have him count against the luxury tax.

Ya, I'm a little conflicted myself. That contract and the luxury tax have really reigned the Yankees in. If they're suddenly off the hook for that, that would not be good for anyone in the American League. On the other hand, A-Rod playing for months and months while fighting a suspension that he might get reduced sounds pretty fun.

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 08-05-2013, 10:29 AM

I think we want both - a protracted legal battle making everyone uncomfortable, a season-or-less ban, and a hobbled A-Rod coming back after that affecting their tax.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-05-2013, 10:38 AM

I think I'd just like to see less than 25 minutes of every hour on ESPN be dedicated to Alex Rodriguez.

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 08-05-2013, 10:41 AM

Change the channel?

DanGarion · 08-05-2013, 12:13 PM

Among players accepting 50-game suspensions: #Rangers’ Cruz, #Tigers’ Peralta, #Phlllies’ Bastardo, #Mets’ Valdespin, #Padres’ Cabrera.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) August 5, 2013

Three previously unknown Biogenesis players named, Gio Gonzalez cleared, 12 total accepting discpline

sterlingice · 08-05-2013, 12:17 PM

I find this story a bit interesting:
Nelson Cruz Leaves ACES; Hires Wasserman Media Group: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Now, ACES represents a ton of players. But I wonder how this has played within the agency. And, if you're MLB and actually want to catch some cheats (dubious, I know), try to find the major suppliers for each of the large agencies like Boras Corp. Then again, knowing Boras, I'm sure his drugs are top of the line and in house so unless you can turn an former employee, you're probably out of luck.

SI

Honolulu_Blue · 08-05-2013, 12:44 PM

It will be a very interesting series between Cleveland and Detroit this week. Both teams have been red hot, Cleveland is only 3 games back and KC is charging hard.

It will be interesting to see how the Tigers respond to Peralta's suspension, even if they knew it was going to happen. Cabrera is banged up and has missed the last few games - pinch hitting in the 12th to create the game winning run yesterday notwithstanding.

The Tigers have won 8 in a row thanks in large part to a home stand that included two sub-.500 National league teams and the poopy White Sox.

Danny · 08-05-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I find this story a bit interesting:
Nelson Cruz Leaves ACES; Hires Wasserman Media Group: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Now, ACES represents a ton of players. But I wonder how this has played within the agency. And, if you're MLB and actually want to catch some cheats (dubious, I know), try to find the major suppliers for each of the large agencies like Boras Corp. Then again, knowing Boras, I'm sure his drugs are top of the line and in house so unless you can turn an former employee, you're probably out of luck.

SI

I actually think most of baseball is clean now (regarding steroids)

sterlingice · 08-05-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I actually think most of baseball is clean now (regarding steroids)

As in specifically anabolic steroids or are we including HGH, blood doping, etc?

SI

Thomkal · 08-05-2013, 01:58 PM

They are about to announce Rodriguez suspension on Sportscenter

Thomkal · 08-05-2013, 02:03 PM

suspended thru 2014 season including playoffs but because he is appealing he can still play.

using HGH and testoterone

spleen1015 · 08-05-2013, 02:24 PM

If I am the Yankees, there is no way I let him in my clubhouse while this BS is going on.

08-02-2013, 11:06 PM	#1454
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08-03-2013, 08:34 AM	#1457
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08-03-2013, 04:25 PM	#1467
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08-03-2013, 09:29 PM	#1471
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Pretty damn good start for Peavy, 7 innings + (think they left him in a bit too long, which led him getting tagged for a second run when relievers let in a run in the 8th), 2 R, 2 BB, 4 Hits, 7 K's Of course, Iglesias goes deep for Detroit, so I guess the trade's working out for everyone __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

08-02-2013, 10:01 PM	#1452
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	FMl. David Wright pulls a hammy in a game that shouldn't even be going on still.

08-02-2013, 10:19 PM	#1453
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	At the Angels game tonight. The lf just made a sensational catch for the home club.

08-03-2013, 02:48 PM	#1465
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Yeah, he's not out of play until he lands. That's why the runner gets 2nd base.

08-04-2013, 02:38 PM	#1474
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	The Cards really handed us our asses Friday and today. Jeez.

08-04-2013, 03:58 PM	#1475
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The Dodgers have gone 7 1/3 innings without getting an assisted out made on them

08-04-2013, 04:39 PM	#1476
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	So in the Dodgers-Cubs game earlier, Hanley walked and the Cubs catcher, Wellington Castro, decided to break the bat by slamming it on the ground afterwards. Very odd play

08-04-2013, 05:15 PM	#1478
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ah, couldnt remember who was starting

08-04-2013, 06:58 PM	#1480
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	AP reporting that ARod will be allowed to play through his appeal. If so, I'd say you can forget about any substantial change in player behavior until the appeal is settled (as well as the civil suits that will likely follow). __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-04-2013, 10:52 PM	#1482
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Tomorrow is going be Dali-esque in baseball. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

08-04-2013, 11:13 PM	#1483
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08-05-2013, 02:57 AM	#1484
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The current espn.com headline is about the Royals hot run, but, um, I think the title is about as backhanded a compliment as you can get before it becomes a straight backhand. "Wait, you're still here?" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

08-05-2013, 08:47 AM	#1487
Ronnie Dobbs3 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2013	As a Sox fan, you are rooting against your own interests if you want a lifetime ban. Would rather have them paying for him in 2015 and him getting booed out of the house at home (or, more realistically, released) but still have him count against the luxury tax.

08-05-2013, 10:29 AM	#1490
Ronnie Dobbs3 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2013	I think we want both - a protracted legal battle making everyone uncomfortable, a season-or-less ban, and a hobbled A-Rod coming back after that affecting their tax.

08-05-2013, 10:38 AM	#1491
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I think I'd just like to see less than 25 minutes of every hour on ESPN be dedicated to Alex Rodriguez.

08-05-2013, 10:41 AM	#1492
Ronnie Dobbs3 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2013	Change the channel?

08-05-2013, 12:13 PM	#1493
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08-05-2013, 12:17 PM	#1494
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I find this story a bit interesting: Nelson Cruz Leaves ACES; Hires Wasserman Media Group: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com Now, ACES represents a ton of players. But I wonder how this has played within the agency. And, if you're MLB and actually want to catch some cheats (dubious, I know), try to find the major suppliers for each of the large agencies like Boras Corp. Then again, knowing Boras, I'm sure his drugs are top of the line and in house so unless you can turn an former employee, you're probably out of luck. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

08-05-2013, 12:44 PM	#1495
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	It will be a very interesting series between Cleveland and Detroit this week. Both teams have been red hot, Cleveland is only 3 games back and KC is charging hard. It will be interesting to see how the Tigers respond to Peralta's suspension, even if they knew it was going to happen. Cabrera is banged up and has missed the last few games - pinch hitting in the 12th to create the game winning run yesterday notwithstanding. The Tigers have won 8 in a row thanks in large part to a home stand that included two sub-.500 National league teams and the poopy White Sox. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

08-05-2013, 01:58 PM	#1498
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	They are about to announce Rodriguez suspension on Sportscenter

08-05-2013, 02:03 PM	#1499
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	suspended thru 2014 season including playoffs but because he is appealing he can still play. using HGH and testoterone Last edited by Thomkal : 08-05-2013 at 02:05 PM.

08-05-2013, 02:24 PM	#1500
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