2017 NFL Week 1 Thread

[Thomkal]

David Johnson may be heading to IR-season over for my beloved Cards after week 1?

David Johnson suffered dislocated wrist vs. Lions - NFL.com

[stevew]

Hot takes week 1 edition-

Is TJ the better Watt Brother?
Has Jared Goff turned the corner?
Why do the Patriots suddenly look normal?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by stevew

Hot takes week 1 edition-

Is TJ the better Watt Brother?

No.

Originally Posted by stevew

Hot takes week 1 edition-
Has Jared Goff turned the corner?

Unlikely.

Originally Posted by stevew

Hot takes week 1 edition-

Why do the Patriots suddenly look normal?

It's only been one game. If they still only "look normal" after Week 4, we can start diagnosing the reasons.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

+1 and I've been following McVay most of the off-season and I think he's going to be a good one. He's been so involved in all aspects of the team, unlike Fisher who just showed up for the paycheck.

But we all know the real reason why the Rams won big....they finally put the right helmets back on.

As a Rams fan since 1968 I love the "new" helmets. I found myself watching entire preseason games just because those helmets looked so awesome It's about time they got rid of the gold. When something looks bad on HD tv you know it sucks

I didn't know much about McVay until I watched Amazon's program that followed the Rams through the 2016 season. The last episode was about McVay and where the Rams were headed post-Fischer. That one hour program got me pumped up about "our" new HC. I think you are right, we got a good one.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by stevew

Hot takes week 1 edition-

Has Jared Goff turned the corner?

As a Rams fan I am cautiously optimistic about this year and do think he will end up being a good one. For now it will take more than a game against the Colts to be convincing, but.... They finally have receivers for the first time in what? 10 years?

Last year put 8 guys in the box and then look for a bubble screen to Austin and you had them covered. With McVay and the added receivers they are at least showing a willingness to try to get the ball downfield and challenge the defense.

[thesloppy]

I think this year's Colts team looks so bad that it seems dangerous to do any kind of projecting based around them.

[bhlloy]

Yup - take one of the three weakest rosters top to bottom in the league, take away their best player on each side of the ball and you get a predictable train wreck

I think you can be encouraged with the start from Goff but McVay also did an incredible job of putting him in situations where he was likely to be successful. I still don't see that line holding up against a real NFL team. Gurley still only averaged 2 YPC

[jbergey22]

Weak roughing the passer call kept the drive alive. Vikings/Saints are fortunate to have the clueless crew work their game this week.

[BishopMVP]

Stefon Diggs is good at football. Not so much at dancing.

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Yup - take one of the three weakest rosters top to bottom in the league, take away their best player on each side of the ball and you get a predictable train wreck

I think you can be encouraged with the start from Goff but McVay also did an incredible job of putting him in situations where he was likely to be successful. I still don't see that line holding up against a real NFL team. Gurley still only averaged 2 YPC

Agreed, but my favorite stat of the game is that 6 receivers had a long reception of over 20 yards. Compare that to last year's staff where defenses would stack 8 in the box, and they would try bubble screens or 5 yard outs.

[jbergey22]

As I suspected. Adrian Peterson is not a good fit for the Saints. Peterson must not have actually asked the coaching staff how much he would actually be getting the ball in his role.

Ingram is just a younger better back at this point and is losing carries because of it.

[thesloppy]

How long has Sean Payton been coasting by on some sort of good will reserves?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

As I suspected. Adrian Peterson is not a good fit for the Saints.

Cut his ass & move on.

Having now seen what transpired (thanks social media, I wasn't really looking), I'm not sure how you don't. Of the three backs that got carries, AP is the least promising and least notable of the bunch at this point.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Cut his ass & move on.

Having now seen what transpired (thanks social media, I wasn't really looking), I'm not sure how you don't. Of the three backs that got carries, AP is the least promising and least notable of the bunch at this point.

Just a really weird decision all around. Ingram finally looking like a feature back and Kamara with a ton of potential. On a team that has had the worst defense in the league and said they are going to address it every year for the last ten years or so.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I think this year's Colts team looks so bad that it seems dangerous to do any kind of projecting based around them.

I don't know what is worse at this point, the Colts or the new Monday Night Football Theme.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

No.



Unlikely.



It's only been one game. If they still only "look normal" after Week 4, we can start diagnosing the reasons.

Oh sorry. These were all deliberately awful and not meant to be taken seriously.

[bhlloy]

Anthony Lynn celebrating the Los Angeles Chargers by copying their original 1961 playbook

[MizzouRah]

This game is getting interesting.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

This game is getting interesting.

Yeah, I should have gone to sleep 90 minutes ago.

[General Mike]

well icing somebody finally worked.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Yeah, I should have gone to sleep 90 minutes ago.

Me too..

Funny how in Madden 18 in my first week, this games final was (CPU vs CPU):

LAC 24 (0-0-1) - 24 DEN (0-0-1)

[bhlloy]

Chargers football? Chargers football

[Suicane75]

So Facebook is streaming some college games this season, they don't do commercials, so most of the breaks were spent with a sideline reporter who, bless his heart, didn't have the greatest grasp of English. I thought it was odd that they would give the job, that necessitated him speaking for probably close to an hour, to a guy who wasn't so great at English. Then came Sergio Dipp.

I'm foreseeing a near future where are all games have a 3 man booth, 2 sideline reporters, a review analyst, a kicking analyst, and a Spanish reporter. Eventually the talking heads will outnumber the actual players on the field.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Cut his ass & move on.

Having now seen what transpired (thanks social media, I wasn't really looking), I'm not sure how you don't. Of the three backs that got carries, AP is the least promising and least notable of the bunch at this point.

Offer him to the Giants or Cards maybe?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Offer him to the Giants or Cards maybe?

Don't they both have enough problems without a prima donna adding to their woes?

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Offer him to the Giants or Cards maybe?

The Cards already brought back Chris Johnson.

[stevew]

Brian Cushing suspended 10 games for PEDs in another non shocker.

[MrBug708]

Back when PEDs were floating around at SC. I believe this was just over the course of 18 months

[NobodyHere]

One thing that annoyed be during the week.

Do we really need to use a player injury to make an advertising pitch? I think it was during the Cleveland game and the sideline announcer said something like, "...and now the injured player will be taken to this makeshift blue tent, where he will be examined by a doctor using a Surface Pro©...

[bhlloy]

I've always wanted to see a 0-0 game

[Suicane75]

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Thursday night shitfest.

[Butter]

I think I'm going to get eye cancer from watching this game.

The Bengals are the fucking worst. I'm a fan, but I'm sick of this crap.

[Suicane75]

Is Andy Dalton concussed or just terrible?

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Butter

I think I'm going to get eye cancer from watching this game.

The Bengals are the fucking worst. I'm a fan, but I'm sick of this crap.

It could be worse.

How?

You could be a Brown's fan.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Butter

I think I'm going to get eye cancer from watching this game.

The Bengals are the fucking worst. I'm a fan, but I'm sick of this crap.

And the next coach will be worse than Marvin and Mike Brown will go back to being an active GM.

Let's party like it's 1996!

[cuervo72]

Why do they use a tablet for review? Why not put a big-ass HDTV in the concussion tent or something?

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Why do they use a tablet for review? Why not put a big-ass HDTV in the concussion tent or something?

Why have the on field official look at the replay at all?

[Suicane75]

Exactly. I'm still baffled why they make it so fucking complicated. Reviews should go look this. Ref pulls out phone or walkie. "Hey, was that a fumble.....no...cool." It shouldn't take more than 1 minute to settle this shit.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

And the next coach will be worse than Marvin and Mike Brown will go back to being an active GM.

Let's party like it's 1996!

Fine with me. Anything else.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Why do they use a tablet for review? Why not put a big-ass HDTV in the concussion tent or something?

It's a paid product placement IIRC.

[cuervo72]

Guess Microsoft does have more $ to throw around than Vizio.

(though, Sony otoh...)

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Butter

Fine with me. Anything else.

Marvin needs to go, but it's going to get worse, not better.

[thesloppy]

I was having this same discussion about Marvin Lewis with some friends yesterday, and was surprised to find out that before last year the Bengals had 5 seasons in a row with 9+ wins.

[bhlloy]

To be fair to Lewis, pretty sure he didn't tell Andy Dalton to make the wrong decision wherever possible

[Julio Riddols]

Ken Zampese has neutered Dalton's ability to make adjustments at the line and its killing the offense IMO. That and a healthy Tyler Eifert has 5 targets in 2 games. That is a mind numbing stat to me. Then there is the HOF WR that isn't getting thrown at much either. Oh, and lets not forget the clear top RB on the team that might be leading the team in carries but isn't getting nearly the number of touches he should.

I blame the OC most, the front office second most for letting the offensive line go to complete shit and doing nothing at all about it, and then Marvin. I don't blame the players. The defense is playing really well, the offense is being coached into complete awfulness and the staff is entirely to blame for that IMO.

Either they need an OC who will call some ballsy plays, or they need to give Andy the keys and let him run shit instead of whatever the hell is happening. There is no excuse for a team with that kind of talent to have 9 points in 2 games. I refuse to believe Dalton has become Matt Schaub.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Ken Zampese has neutered Dalton's ability to make adjustments at the line and its killing the offense IMO. That and a healthy Tyler Eifert has 5 targets in 2 games. That is a mind numbing stat to me. Then there is the HOF WR that isn't getting thrown at much either. Oh, and lets not forget the clear top RB on the team that might be leading the team in carries but isn't getting nearly the number of touches he should.

I blame the OC most, the front office second most for letting the offensive line go to complete shit and doing nothing at all about it, and then Marvin. I don't blame the players. The defense is playing really well, the offense is being coached into complete awfulness and the staff is entirely to blame for that IMO.

Either they need an OC who will call some ballsy plays, or they need to give Andy the keys and let him run shit instead of whatever the hell is happening. There is no excuse for a team with that kind of talent to have 9 points in 2 games. I refuse to believe Dalton has become Matt Schaub.

I dunno. You obviously follow the team and have a much better handle on what is going on than I do, but week 1 Dalton had a historically bad game (worst 5 all-time IIRC) and then this week, he just made an awful throw on an open receiver or made a terrible decision to hold the ball and get sacked or have to scramble and throw it away on every single third down or big play situation.

It's definitely possible that poor play calling is part of the equation but I just don't believe the coaches are telling him to overthrow a guy who would walk into the end zone by 20 yards on a key third down play. His most effective play last night was basically a heave into double coverage that probably should have been picked off other than the fact that AJ Green is an absolute god. There's obviously a lot of blame to go around but Dalton has been absolutely putrid, and I don't see how calling audibles at the line is going to change the fact that through two weeks he's been more likely to throw the ball at the other team or at a 10 yard spot of turf than he is his own receivers.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Ken Zampese has neutered Dalton's ability to make adjustments at the line and its killing the offense IMO. That and a healthy Tyler Eifert has 5 targets in 2 games. That is a mind numbing stat to me. Then there is the HOF WR that isn't getting thrown at much either. Oh, and lets not forget the clear top RB on the team that might be leading the team in carries but isn't getting nearly the number of touches he should.

I blame the OC most, the front office second most for letting the offensive line go to complete shit and doing nothing at all about it, and then Marvin. I don't blame the players. The defense is playing really well, the offense is being coached into complete awfulness and the staff is entirely to blame for that IMO.

Either they need an OC who will call some ballsy plays, or they need to give Andy the keys and let him run shit instead of whatever the hell is happening. There is no excuse for a team with that kind of talent to have 9 points in 2 games. I refuse to believe Dalton has become Matt Schaub.

Bengals fire offensive coordinator Ken Zampese after 2 games with 0 touchdowns - SBNation.com