Official College Football Bowls/Postseason

[MrBug708]

No worries Shaw, you can keep running the ball up the middle, we have the 5th quarter still

[BillJasper]

Rose Bowl has been entertaining but Michigan State should be up by more.

[BillJasper]

I think that last Stanford drive tells the NFL everything they need to know about Kevin Hogan.

[Patriots12]

Originally Posted by Matthean

More sad, it is currently the Big Ten's only bowl win.

Well with MSU's win that fact doesn't stand.

Stanford was good when they were aggressive but lost because they were too conservative.

[SirFozzie]

Wow.. Baylor coming out flat, UCF coming out gangbusters.. will it last?

Or to paraphrase from the Rocky Movies...

"They don't think it's a show... they think it's a damn game!"

[Lathum]

Sick TD by Bryce Petty and the shots of his mom were priceless.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Patriots12

Considering the rich and prestigious history of the rose bowl, why would you have two non AQ teams playing on the same day as the most important bowl game. I wish they would have the cotton before the rose bowl.

Uh... its like you've never heard of the days when there'd be like 10 bowl games on New Years Day, with all sorts of bowls, from big to small.

[Patriots12]

But back then bowl games were for the good teams, not the mediocre.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Uh... its like you've never heard of the days when there'd be like 10 bowl games on New Years Day, with all sorts of bowls, from big to small.

Well, "small" might be a little overstating it. I mean, his specific gripe was about bowls with non-AQ teams

2014 NYD: 6 games including 2 non-AQ teams. 20 non-AQ teams will go bowling this year, including two that will play on Sun Jan 5th.

*Yes, I screwed up & pulled one year too soon on all of these but these snapshots should still close enough to make the point*

2003 NYD: 6 games all featured teams from AQ conferences, only 12 non-AQ teams went bowling at all, the last to play was Boise State on 12/31 (Humanitarian)

1993 NYD: 8 games all featured teams from AQ conferences, only 7 non-AQ teams went bowling at all, the last to play was Air Force on 12/31 (Liberty)

1983 NYD: 5 games all featured teams from AQ conferences, only 4 non-AQ teams went bowling at all, the last to play was Air Force on 12/31 (Hall of Fame)

1973 NYD: 3 games all featured teams from AQ conferences, only 2 non-AQ teams went bowling at all, Tampa & Kent State played in the Tangerine Bowl on 12/29.

edit to note: for the purpose of these snapshots I counted Notre Dame as being "from an AQ conference"

[Kodos]

Glad to see MSU pull off the win in the Rose Bowl! Great job!

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Glad to see MSU pull off the win in the Rose Bowl! Great job!

I am beyond happy. This feels even better than the 2000 basketball championship.

Now I just hope it's not another 26 before they win again.

[SirFozzie]

Ok, I'm about to speak treason, probably insanity, but considering the last two years have seen a 14.5 point underdog win (Louisville over Florida) and this year saw a 17 point underdog win (Central Florida over Baylor).. you know, I'm going to miss the BCS if smaller teams can't get into the big name games (I'm not talking about national semifinal games, cause it'd be foolish to say that UCF deserves that).. but big name, big payday games.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Ok, I'm about to speak treason, probably insanity, but considering the last two years have seen a 14.5 point underdog win (Louisville over Florida) and this year saw a 17 point underdog win (Central Florida over Baylor).. you know, I'm going to miss the BCS if smaller teams can't get into the big name games (I'm not talking about national semifinal games, cause it'd be foolish to say that UCF deserves that).. but big name, big payday games.

Its hard to say what would be foolish.

UCF did almost everything they could have this year including winning tough road games at Louisville and Penn St. They certainly played like a team that could compete with any team.

[Logan]

Interesting numbers I saw on Twitter last night as the BCS era ends...

- AAC/Big East BCS wins: 9 (7 losses)
- Big 12 wins: 9 (12 losses) - with Oklahoma pending
- ACC wins: 3 (13 losses) - Clemson/FSU pending

- Notre Dame BCS victories: 0
- George O'Leary BCS victories: 1

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Ok, I'm about to speak treason, probably insanity, but considering the last two years have seen a 14.5 point underdog win (Louisville over Florida) and this year saw a 17 point underdog win (Central Florida over Baylor).. you know, I'm going to miss the BCS if smaller teams can't get into the big name games (I'm not talking about national semifinal games, cause it'd be foolish to say that UCF deserves that).. but big name, big payday games.

You may need to define "big name, big payday" games.

Orange, Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, CFA/Peach, Cotton are the 6 tied to the new system ... with new contracts in place for their participants in non-playoff years

Rose: Big 10 vs Pac 12 (champs, or highest if lost to playoff)
Orange: ACC vs B10 #2/SEC #2/ND
Sugar: Big 12 vs SEC (champs, or highest if lost to playoff)
Cotton: At-Large or highest "Group of 5" (or "Go5") team
Peach: At-Large or highest "Group of 5" (or "Go5") team
Fiesta: At-Large or highest "Group of 5" (or "Go5") team

*Go5 = AAC, C-USA, MAC, MWC, Sun Belt

So if this year's final rankings had been applied to the new system next year, we'd have gotten:

Rose & Sugar get ... FSU vs Michigan State and Auburn vs Alabama v2.0

Not sure what order the committee will assign games, nor how they'll pair them exactly but the other 8 teams would likely have been:


Stanford (PAC12 champ auto-bid), Baylor (Big12 champ auto-bid), Ohio State, Missouri, South Carolina
Oklahoma (or maybe Oregon), Clemson (ACC runner-up to Orange), UCF (highest Go5 champ auto-bid)

Given that geography can be considered, I imagine we'd have gotten
Orange: Clemson (ACC #2) vs Ohio State (basically has to be SEC or B10 or ND)
Peach: South Carolina vs UCF
Fiesta: Stanford vs Oklahoma
Cotton: Baylor vs Missouri

Next highest paying bowls? Here are the ones outside of the above that were north of $3m this year, and their bowl ties for the next cycle
Capital One: Big 10/ACC vs SEC #2
Outback: Big 10 vs SEC 3-8
Gator: Big 12 or ACC 3-6 vs SEC 3-8
Alamo: Big 12 #2 vs Pac 12
Buffalo Wild Wings: Big 12 vs Pac 12

[JonInMiddleGA]

But look on the bright side ... next year we'll have at least 4 NEW bowl games for the Go5 teams to attend.
(Miami Beach, Boca Raton, Camelia, Bahamas)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Patriots12

But back then bowl games were for the good teams, not the mediocre.

I just don't undersatnd this sentiment. Who cares how many teams go to games.

My school is University of Washington. Were we good enough to go to a "major" bowl game, not really, but as a fan and alum I love the fact I got to see one more game and the program gets additonal practices. It is also a fun experience for the kids and a goal for them.

Where is the negative?

Not directed at you specificaly, but if you don't like all the bowls a simple solution is don't watch them. There are plenty of other things on TV and a whole world outside.

Turn on the TV at 5:00 on New Years day and start your bowl season then. Doesn't seem too hard.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Well, "small" might be a little overstating it. I mean, his specific gripe was about bowls with non-AQ teams

Though he did say afterwards those bowl games were for "good teams" not "mediocre ones". Which, of course, is interpretation, but I'd rather take a 1 or 2 loss non-AQ team than a 6 loss AQ team as a "good team".

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I just don't undersatnd this sentiment. Who cares how many teams go to games.

My school is University of Washington. Were we good enough to go to a "major" bowl game, not really, but as a fan and alum I love the fact I got to see one more game and the program gets additonal practices. It is also a fun experience for the kids and a goal for them.

Where is the negative?

Not directed at you specificaly, but if you don't like all the bowls a simple solution is don't watch them. There are plenty of other things on TV and a whole world outside.

Turn on the TV at 5:00 on New Years day and start your bowl season then. Doesn't seem too hard.

Said this in another thread...but the only problem I have is when going to any bowl game is used as some sort of positive measure of performance. Especially when it's used as the basis for why a school would continue to employ a shitty coach, because he happened to go 6-6 and earn a spot available to more than half the teams in FBS.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Though he did say afterwards those bowl games were for "good teams" not "mediocre ones". Which, of course, is interpretation, but I'd rather take a 1 or 2 loss non-AQ team than a 6 loss AQ team as a "good team".

How often do we get 6 loss AQ teams in those bowls though?

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

How often do we get 6 loss AQ teams in those bowls though?

Are we talking New Year's Day only? I'm getting confused.

FWIW, the ACC by itself put SIX 6-loss teams into bowls this year. I don't think any were 1/1 bowls though.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Are we talking New Year's Day only? I'm getting confused.

No worries, me too

The 6-loss and/or "mediocre" teams bit was (I think) in reference to a complaint up the thread about who played on 1/1 this year.

That's different from the overall bowl discussion, best I could figure (although IIRC 6-loss team on 1/1 may have happened once or twice previously because of the ACC)

[ISiddiqui]

It was more illustrative .

There are more than a few mid major teams I'd like to see on New Years Day other than Virginia Tech this year, for example.

[Patriots12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I just don't undersatnd this sentiment. Who cares how many teams go to games.

My school is University of Washington. Were we good enough to go to a "major" bowl game, not really, but as a fan and alum I love the fact I got to see one more game and the program gets additonal practices. It is also a fun experience for the kids and a goal for them.

Where is the negative?

Not directed at you specificaly, but if you don't like all the bowls a simple solution is don't watch them. There are plenty of other things on TV and a whole world outside.

Turn on the TV at 5:00 on New Years day and start your bowl season then. Doesn't seem too hard.

I do its just I have a major issue of rewarding mediocrity on the same day that the Rose Bowl rewards great success from the Big ten and Pac 12.I think Washington got a great bowl game and I'm pleased they won and I support the bowls that pit teams that are at least 8-4. But I'm against a measly game between UNLV and North Texas,(which I'm so happy UNLV lost) on New Years Day, which in my opinion should have the fiesta bowl on New Year's Eve, Sugar at 10 MT, Cotton at 12 MT, Orange at 1:30 MT, Rose at 3 MT, and the championship game at 7 MT. Have all the other bowl games before, not on New Years Day. I just hate the NCAA values money over tradition.

[Lathum]

again-just don't watch.

Have a bloody mary and nurse your hang over. Rose Bowl starts at 5

[JPhillips]

My god a lot has happened in six minutes.

[bob]

Vad Lee is transferring from Georgia Tech.... Not sure where to

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

Vad Lee is transferring from Georgia Tech.... Not sure where to

Good riddance.

His little "pay the players" uniform stunt took away most of my ability to genuinely root for him (save for the UGA game) & left me watching less / less interested in Tech football this season than I've been since I was about 4 years old.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Patriots12

I just hate the NCAA values money over tradition.

The NCAA doesn't control kickoff times nor schedules. That's between the bowls & the networks who are paying the freight.

[duckman]

Meanwhile, Oklahoma is taking it to Bama. Wow!

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by duckman

Meanwhile, Oklahoma is taking it to Bama. Wow!

A single score isn't really taking it to the other team. All the more so when you are being out gained.

[Matthean]

Well, you don't win turning it over three times in a half.

[chadritt]

In order to make a throat slash gesture wouldnt you need to either put your hand near your throat or make a slashing gesture? I didnt see either.

[BillJasper]

Oklahoma is just eating up the Bama offensive line. I didn't expect that to happen.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Attention Da'Shawn Hand... It's not too late to reconsider.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Oklahoma is just eating up the Bama offensive line. I didn't expect that to happen.

Funny to say that considering 'Bama had 362 total yards at half.

I guess the good news is 'Bama likely couldn't have played worse. The problem being I don't think their D can contain OU long enough to overcome the 14 points. I figured it was either 'Bama will a big win, or they will play like crap since they were not in the title game. I guess I'm getting my answer. A ton of yards only goes so far.

[Karlifornia]

Okie did work in the first half. This qb looks good.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Lathum

again-just don't watch.

Have a bloody mary and nurse your hang over. Rose Bowl starts at 5

+1 Also according to Patriotsfan12 he is 16 years old so no blood marys

[Matthean]

Of the possible issues 'Bama could of had this season, their defense wasn't even on the radar, but it has been abused a number of times this season to where I don't see Smart going anywhere. This is frustrating as hell to have both of the teams I cheer for put in subpar performances during a bowl game.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by bob

Vad Lee is transferring from Georgia Tech.... Not sure where to

Nooooooooooo.....


As a Clemson fan who has seen very good defenders struggle against CPJ with a semi competent QB this is heart breaking

[CU Tiger]

It's interesting Saban never gets heat for any performance but his teams record in non MNC bowl games is nothing to write home about....

[Bigsmooth]

This Henry kid is insane...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Nooooooooooo..... As a Clemson fan who has seen very good defenders struggle against CPJ with a semi competent QB this is heart breaking

UGA fans have had a similar reaction.

You may know this off-hand better than me (proximity & all), I'm too lazy to look it up atm ... what sort of FCS options would he have back in NC? Elon came to mind off hand, NC A&T I guess. Who am I leaving out?

(some early speculation has been that he might look closer to home)

[JonInMiddleGA]

7 sacks ain't no way to go through life son

[SackAttack]

The Sugar Bowl is cordially invited to join the Orange Bowl in autofornication.

[ISiddiqui]

Loving the BCS upsets .

This Trevor Knight kid is pretty good. The final drive by the Sooners was great in bleeding down the clock.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

It's interesting Saban never gets heat for any performance but his teams record in non MNC bowl games is nothing to write home about....

People tend to forgive when you win 4 tittles in such a short span.

[MrBug708]

Stoops is the first coach to win all 5 BCS bowl games

[Recoil]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

UGA fans have had a similar reaction.

You may know this off-hand better than me (proximity & all), I'm too lazy to look it up atm ... what sort of FCS options would he have back in NC? Elon came to mind off hand, NC A&T I guess. Who am I leaving out?

(some early speculation has been that he might look closer to home)

Apparently going to JMU

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Loving the BCS upsets .

This Trevor Knight kid is pretty good. The final drive by the Sooners was great in bleeding down the clock.

Knight never looked this good all season. Picked a great time to shine. I think they certainly caught an Alabama team still thinking about the Auburn game.