NFL Week 5 Thread

[Thomkal]

Cardinals finally do the right thing and not let Palmer throw near the end zone again, result was a Mendenhall TD to take the lead 10-6.

[cuervo72]

I think we knew Schiano was a dick as soon as he pulled that full rush against the kneeldown crap.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Lathum

wow did the Cowboys bite on that bootleg

Along with the cameraman, crowd, Broncos on the sideline who were not involved in the playcall, television viewers and Archie Manning.

I mean, cmon, it isn't even fair at this point.

[Thomkal]

Things go from bad to worse for the Panthers after the Cards TD. Newton sacked in the endzone for a safety.

[EagleFan]

I swear sometimes Manning is just f'ing with the other team. Call the receiver in motion and then send him right back in motion to where he was only to run the ball right up the middle.

[Thomkal]

...and right on cue, Palmer throws his 3rd INT. :::sigh:::

[Galaril]

Ok so the Broncos can still be beaten deep repeatedly.Ughh.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I think we knew Schiano was a dick as soon as he pulled that full rush against the kneeldown crap.

I never saw anything like that before Schiano, and I wouldn't say I'm thrilled to see it, but I'm okay with it because I know he's had success with it back in college. He only allows it if the Bucs are within one score. I think most teams have adapted well enough to ensure they block for 1-3 additional plays to make it a non-issue. It was really only bad when the Giants and Eli Manning didn't realize it was going to happen.

[Matthean]

Point differentials

Jacksonville: -112
New York Giants: -100
Pittsburgh: -41

Granted the Steelers have only played four games, but that's a staggering difference between the two teams and the rest of the league.

[Logan]

FTR I don't ever remember it working at Rutgers.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Ok so the Broncos can still be beaten deep repeatedly.Ughh.

This is really the first game you could say was embarrassing for the defense. They haven't tackled well, they haven't covered well, they haven't made a ton of adjustments like they usually do. They are just getting torched left and right.

Manning will have to keep up the gas or the Broncos will lose this game. The loss of Miller hasn't been felt a lot this year. Today? it's being felt on a massive scale. The Cowboys are playing very well and matching the Donkies point for point.

Should be a very interesting fourth quarter.

[Lathum]

and Manning throws his first pick

[BillJasper]

I miss defense.

If the Bucs continue to stumble, I look for Dominik to try and fire Schiano in order to save his own job.

[EagleFan]

WTF?!?!? Why couldn't I have this affect on the Broncos last week?

While I have watched the game... Cowboys 35 Broncos 10

When I haven't been watching... Broncos 28 Cowboys 6 and Broncos turn the ball over twice

[Vince, Pt. II]

Is there a reason Arizona isn't giving the ball to Ellington more? From the stats, he seems like a way better RB than Mendenhall at this point.

[EagleFan]

So it's okay to target a kick returner's head?

[EagleFan]

WTF is the announcer talking about. There were two receivers near that throw.

[BillJasper]

I find it interesting that the only way you can fluster Peyton Manning is by keeping the score close into the second half.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I find it interesting that the only way you can fluster Peyton Manning is by keeping the score close into the second half.

Almost seems like he is one of those guys that when things are going well his confidence is so high that he can't be stopped but once the pressure is really on he starts to press too much.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Almost seems like he is one of those guys that when things are going well his confidence is so high that he can't be stopped but once the pressure is really on he starts to press too much.

Which had been the case of several playoff games when he was Colt, particularly against the Chargers, if I recall.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Which had been the case of several playoff games when he was Colt, particularly against the Chargers, if I recall.

His one SB ring is the only thing that keeps him from endless choke job mocking.

[BillJasper]

The Denver secondary looks lost out there.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

The Denver secondary looks lost out there.

We've secretly replaced the Broncos secondary with the Eagles secondary, let's see if anyone will notice...

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

The Denver secondary looks lost out there.

Beyond lost. Really beyond lost. We need Bailey and Miller back badly.

Only one more week and Miller will be back. I think we can handle the Jags so we can set up for the rest of the year.

Manning has led the Donkies to 13 points this half. I don't really think he's been that rattled. Cowboys have momentum and are playing out of their ever loving minds. That last throw to Welker? Step up in the pocket and throw it perfectly? Yeah, he's really got some nerves here.

Hate the Cowboys, but they deserve some credit, Manning isn't exactly playing badly this half.

[Solecismic]

Single-game Passing Yardage

1. Norm Van Brocklin, 554 (1951)
2. Warren Moon, 527 (week 15, 1990)
2. Matt Schaub, 527 (week 11, 2012)
4. Dan Marino, 521 (week 8, 1988)
5. Matthew Stafford, 520 (week 17, 2011)
6. Tom Brady, 517 (week 1, 2011)
7. Phil Simms, 513 (week 6, 1985)
8. Drew Brees, 510 (week 11, 2006)
8. Eli Manning, 510 (week 2, 2012)
10. Vince Ferragamo, 509 (week 8, 1982)
11. Tony Romo, 506 (week 5, 2013)

Moon is the only other player on this list with no interceptions in the 500-yard game.

[EagleFan]

Does it matter is they tie it at this point? It's not like their defense is going to make a stop.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Does it matter is they tie it at this point? It's not like their defense is going to make a stop.

Stranger things have happened, right? Romo isn't exactly incapable of throwing a duck. Bryant isn't incapable of fumbling. The Cowboys are 95% likely to win the game on this drive, but if Manning doesn't get the ball in the end zone there, that other 5% is gone. 48-48. Crazy, crazy game.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Does it matter is they tie it at this point? It's not like their defense is going to make a stop.

Well even though he has been throwing his ass off in this game you do have to remember who the Cowboys QB is and his track record in these situations in the past.

[larrymcg421]

So if a guy throws 7 TD's on 7 straight drives, then the last drive comes up short and he loses 56-49, does that mean he's a choker or does it mean it's pretty fucking hard to throw TD's on 8 straight drives?

[Galaril]

Like clockwork.

[ColtCrazy]

Originally Posted by Matthean

His one SB ring is the only thing that keeps him from endless choke job mocking.

Which is extremely unfair since he's the all-time leader in 4th quarter comebacks.
As a Colts fan for years, I can say only once did Manning ever have a complete team around him (2005). I think once Miller and Bailey come back this team has the potential to be Manning's best overall team.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

So if a guy throws 7 TD's on 7 straight drives, then the last drive comes up short and he loses 56-49, does that mean he's a choker or does it mean it's pretty fucking hard to throw TD's on 8 straight drives?

Choker.

I just don't understand Romo.

[ColtCrazy]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

So if a guy throws 7 TD's on 7 straight drives, then the last drive comes up short and he loses 56-49, does that mean he's a choker or does it mean it's pretty fucking hard to throw TD's on 8 straight drives?

I'll take the latter for $200 please, Alex.

Russell Wilson played a great game today vs. Indy. He threw a pick on the last drive. He didn't choke.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Well even though he has been throwing his ass off in this game you do have to remember who the Cowboys QB is and his track record in these situations in the past.

I felt like Ruth calling his shot

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Moon is the only other player on this list with no interceptions in the 500-yard game.

jinx?

[Logan]

Narrative

[Lathum]

wow,I feel bad for Romo

[TroyF]

Dear Donkies,

. Do not think this thing is over and that a FG wins it. Please, please, please. Even if you turn it over, be aggressive. Romo threw a bad pass, he can easily lead a TD drive. Again, just be aggressive.

Thanks

TroyF

[EagleFan]

That should read Moon is the ONLY player on that list to not have thrown a pick.

[BillJasper]

Why would you run out of bounds?

[EagleFan]

kneel down a couple times and then kick on the final play.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

Which is extremely unfair since he's the all-time leader in 4th quarter comebacks.
As a Colts fan for years, I can say only once did Manning ever have a complete team around him (2005). I think once Miller and Bailey come back this team has the potential to be Manning's best overall team.

Choke job might not be the best wording but to put up the numbers he has without a SB ring would forever link him to Marino.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Choke job might not be the best wording but to put up the numbers he has without a SB ring would forever link him to Mario.

Elway dealt with a lot of it too. If the Broncos hadn't beat GB, who knows what would have happened.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Why would you run out of bounds?

Why would you not just let them score afterwards. Some real dumb strategy by Garrett

[larrymcg421]

This thread really takes my pet peeve to the extreme. To call a guy a choker after he led his team to 48 pts and an awesome comeback because he threw one bad pass late in the game is just insanely absurd. If a QB leads their team to 48 pts and they lost, it is NOT the QB's fault.

[TroyF]

Well, so much for getting rattled. Cowboys talked all week about how they were sick of Manning. Their answer was to give up 414 yards passing and 51 points to the man you were sick of.

49, 41, 37, 52, 51. . . this is insanity. The high flying Pats put up 40+ points 4 times in 2007. The Broncos have put up 40+ 4 times in 5 weeks.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Well, so much for getting rattled. Cowboys talked all week about how they were sick of Manning. Their answer was to give up 414 yards passing and 51 points to the man you were sick of.

49, 41, 37, 52, 51. . . this is insanity. The high flying Pats put up 40+ points 4 times in 2007. The Broncos have put up 40+ 4 times in 5 weeks.

That will slow down when they start playing in blizzards for their home games but they have been like a machine.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Elway dealt with a lot of it too. If the Broncos hadn't beat GB, who knows what would have happened.

At least for Elway he won twice and faced a credible opponent. The Grossman led Bears was a rather uninspiring team.

[Julio Riddols]

That was one hell of a battle, really fun to watch, both QB's played their asses off. Each made one bad throw. Romo's bad throw cost him much more dearly, but I would take either QB's performance in a heartbeat. Peyton Manning is separating himself from the other QB's in the "greatest of all time" argument.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Matthean

At least for Elway he won twice and faced a credible opponent. The Grossman led Bears was a rather uninspiring team.

Who anyone beats in the Super Bowl doesn't matter. It was the inability to get to the Super Bowl that gave Manning the early rep. Still having fewer playoff victories in Denver than Tebow isn't really helping either.

It seems if you combine Eli and Peyton just right you get the perfect QB. Take Peyton's regular season and Eli's post season.

Or just take a Joe Montana to accomplish the same.