Pacquiao-Mayweather

[djsatu]

Glad I didn't have to pay 100 bucks to watch this. Used to love boxing, but the quality just isn't there anymore. Major props to Manny who clearly outboxed Floyd, and actually wanted to fight. I am reading online at how Floyd was a beast and clearly won the fight. Really?? Boxing is a joke, and this is the end for me as a fan.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Ouch. I've seen some great fights on HBO, it will serve me well to just stick to that caliber of boxing. Read: I wont PPV it. I will.PPV MMA from time to time though.

The quality of free boxing is much improved over the last year. The NBC premier boxing series has been great in it's first two efforts, hopefully that trend continues.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Just talking about it, I had to go watch it again. If you have never seen it, take the 10 minutes to watch, 1st round alone has more action than the 12 we just watched from Vegas.

Thanks, can't remember if I've seen it before, but that was awesome.

[Julio Riddols]

I haven't been able to watch a boxing match with any enthusiasm since Ward/Gatti.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by JAG

Thanks, can't remember if I've seen it before, but that was awesome.

I've seen it before, but that never gets old...the level of training and passion to dish out and take that much is what boxing is all about.

[stevew]

Mayweather is throwing all of his belts away on monday. Seems like a shrewd move as that means he won't have to tip out all the sanctioning bodies.

[bob]

Originally Posted by djsatu

Major props to Manny who clearly outboxed Floyd, and actually wanted to fight. I am reading online at how Floyd was a beast and clearly won the fight. Really?? Boxing is a joke, and this is the end for me as a fan.

Wait - I didn't see the fight, and I'm not really a boxing fan, but is this a popular opinion? Was the decision at all controversial, because I didn't see that online at all in the articles I read.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by bob

Wait - I didn't see the fight, and I'm not really a boxing fan, but is this a popular opinion? Was the decision at all controversial, because I didn't see that online at all in the articles I read.

Not at all. IMO, the first 6 rounds could have been scored 4-2 Floyd or 3-3 depending on how you scored round 2. The final 6 rounds were totally controlled by Floyd.

And I was rooting against Floyd as hard as anyone else.

[MrBug708]

Ya, nobody thinks Pacman won the fight or really "outboxed" him unless you want to thrust heavily biased semantics into the conversation

[Groundhog]

I was rooting against Floyd, but he clearly won the day. Manny connected on a few decent hits, but Mayweather controlled the fight and for a large portion of the fight he was basically toying with him.

Most of the online controversy seems to be because people hate Mayweather, or hate his style of fighting. Manny looked to do more than Mayweather to the eye, but he connected on precious little.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

_____ looked to do more than Mayweather to the eye, but he connected on precious little.

This is the line that you can substitute every single fighter who has ever fought Mayweather in, and the sentence applies.

[Groundhog]

The top Aussie boxer the past decade or so has a very similar style to Mayweather. It seems to me - someone who only ever watches boxing when it's a big 'Mayweather/Manny' type event - that it's the smartest way to box. Also seems to me a big reason why I find boxing boring most of the time.

[HomerSimpson98]

enjoy

[digamma]

Sort of a fitting ending to this saga that the Nevada boxing commission is more upset about Pacquiao being less than forthcoming about a shoulder injury than it is about Mayweather being less than forthcoming about domestic abuse.

[Kodos]

It's a sad world we live in.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by digamma

Sort of a fitting ending to this saga that the Nevada boxing commission is more upset about Pacquiao being less than forthcoming about a shoulder injury than it is about Mayweather being less than forthcoming about domestic abuse.

Or about...fighting.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by digamma

Sort of a fitting ending to this saga that the Nevada boxing commission is more upset about Pacquiao being less than forthcoming about a shoulder injury than it is about Mayweather being less than forthcoming about domestic abuse.

A boxer lying about an injury is considered perjury.

When you've got millions of dollars of betting going on, you've got to hope both fighters are in top-top condition. Basically anybody who bet on Mayweather gained an advantage without knowing it.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Grover

A boxer lying about an injury is considered perjury.

When you've got millions of dollars of betting going on, you've got to hope both fighters are in top-top condition. Basically anybody who bet on Mayweather gained an advantage without knowing it.

Oh I know the rationale, and in a vacuum, their questioning Pacquiao would be fine. It's sort of a larger (perhaps state the obvious) point about the entire silliness of their "licensing" commission.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by digamma

Oh I know the rationale, and in a vacuum, they're questioning Pacquiao would be fine. It's sort of a larger (perhaps state the obvious) point about the entire silliness of their "licensing" commission.

The silliness includes Pac being denied a painkiller because they never disclosed the injury.

Manny Pacquiao Could Face Legal Trouble For Hiding His Shoulder Injury

[HomerSimpson98]

Wholly shit - a torn rotator cuff?!?!?!?!

As someone who recently had one myself and recently repaired, I can tell you that it greatly reduces your power. Also, if your arm went the wrong way at the wrong angle, excruciating pain (although for me, it was being pulled backwards). Straightline punches wouldnt be an issue, but his training had to be compromised by this. Crazy stuff.

[jeff061]

All that means is Manny conned us all. If it was a real fight he would have pulled out and delayed. But he just wanted his money, chance of winning or real effort be damned.

[Arles]

Mayweather fights are akin to watching the 90s Devils in hockey run the neutral zone trap. It's effective, it wins, but it isn't very exciting to watch. I've been a big boxing fan over the past 30 years, but I think I will stick to the HBO/Showtime/NBC fights until things change. About one out of every 5 fight is worth watching and those odds seem to dip when both fighters know they are leaving with $80+ million win, lose or draw.

Maybe when Floyd finally hangs it up, we can go back to watching fighters in the welterweight class who put on a show (ie, 2000-2007). Although, part of me worries that the money involved will prevent all out wars like we had with Ward-Gatti, Mosely/Vargas and even a younger Pacquiao/Morales. The last interesting fight Floyd had (that didn't involve 80+% defensive fighting) was probably the Hatton fight back in 07.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Arles

Mayweather fights are akin to watching the 90s Devils in hockey run the neutral zone trap. It's effective, it wins, but it isn't very exciting to watch.

I'll throw in the Jose Mourinho era Chelsea FC in soccer. Brutal to watch, but completely effective, and you can't fault the individual/team. UFC was also in a rough spot a few years ago where basically every weight class was dominated by someone willing to keep defending on 5 round decisions. You could have a card where 3 titles were going to be defended and still know you were in for a stinker.

I know it won't happen, but there should be MAJOR repercussions for anyone involved in this fight who knew he had been injured in training but not properly reported it. This is as close as you can get to straight-up fixing the fight, and I feel really bad for anyone who bet on Pacquiao.

I love how boxing just continues to be it's own worst enemy. It' already perceived as an insanely shady sport where results are pre-determined, and yet they still approach it will all the honesty of a Lucius Sweet fight from the Simpsons.

[molson]

More than 4.4 million PPV buys and a $72 million gate.

Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight shatters all-time live gate record.

Whether it be wrestling, MMA, or boxing, anytime PPV prices go up, there's always this clamor about how nobody would pay so much to watch one show on TV. But time and time again it's been proven, the more you charge, the more special you make your event seem. Hell, the WWE almost single-handedly got out of financial trouble in the mid-90s by doing one thing - doubling the PPV price. It increased the status of those events. I think you see the same phenomenon in live sports event tickets. When ticket prices went up, interest and gates went up with them. In the 70s you had a lot of half-empty arenas with $6 seats in all the pro sports. Charge $50+ for the same product and suddenly its something people want to do.