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Old 03-17-2009, 09:51 AM   #101
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I think there's a special place for Firefly in people's hearts because of the way Fox well and truly fucked with that show.
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:10 AM   #102
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I watched Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared one after the other. Both were good shows, but I felt Freaks and Geeks was great, whereas Undeclared was only "good."
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:01 PM   #103
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Wow ... I would have forgotten about this one but I would have loved to have more episodes of Get a Life. They need to get on the ball on DVDs for this one.

I had the DVDs for Get A Life I had picked up real cheap years back. I have to say, they were almost unwatchable. I loved the show when it was on, but something changed. Luckily I sold it on Amazon to some collector for an ungodly price. Hah.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:12 PM   #104
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:32 PM   #105
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Boomtown....loved this show.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:43 PM   #106
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Yeah totally! I wish I could get away from the interwebs people who think Firefly is God's gift to mankind!
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:47 PM   #107
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I had the DVDs for Get A Life I had picked up real cheap years back. I have to say, they were almost unwatchable. I loved the show when it was on, but something changed. Luckily I sold it on Amazon to some collector for an ungodly price. Hah.

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Old 03-17-2009, 02:56 PM   #108
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:56 PM   #109
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:57 PM   #110
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Old 03-17-2009, 02:57 PM   #111
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:46 PM   #112
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:49 PM   #113
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:20 PM   #114
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:35 PM   #115
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Firefly was an outstanding series (Am I the only one who wasn't impressed by Serenity, though?) and deserved a longer run.

I also wanted to see more of Invasion, but I knew there was only so much further they could go without it becoming cooky.

As much as Whedon wanted to make the movie as great as possible, I think he knew it would fall short of the show but wanted to have as much closure on the universe as he could. I was just happy that he tied up as many storylines as he did. I can't recall off hand, but I believe some of the interviews he did between the show and the movie made it sound like he had intended to take 3-5 seasons to reveal the information that ended up in the movie. Given the way he tends to develop stories/characters, there was really no way the movie could live up to the style/quality of the show, but it's a lot nicer to have that information/wrap up than to have not done it at all. That said, I believe that Whedon knew the movie would likely be it for live action continuation of that series and wrapped up as much as he did.

Now if they'd just hurry up and start releasing some of the books they've talked about (like giving some info on Book's background and Inarra/the syringe she was holding when they first showed had the Reavers attacking).
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:56 PM   #116
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Ugh, can't believe I forgot to mention Futurama in my first post.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:58 PM   #117
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:27 PM   #118
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Reminding me of the great HBO product The Larry Sanders Show. That show was so funny and the casting was perfect. A real shame that music copyright issues have (mostly) kept it from reaching dvd. I remember the episode with Carol Burnett being especially hilarious. The Bobcat Goldthwaite one was great too.
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:41 PM   #119
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Probably Firefly. Watched an episode, didn't care for it much...didn't watch. Saw Serenity...liked the movie, bought the DVD of the series, watched it again and realized I missed out on a pretty darn entertaining series.
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:04 PM   #120
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Holy shit, Firefly is something I can agree with SFL on. That's reason enough to bring it back. Greatest show evah!
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:48 PM   #121
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Early Edition - It was such a good, wholesome show.

Concur, EE was a show with a fresh idea for it's time.
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:59 PM   #122
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:01 PM   #123
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I'd never heard of Firefly before this thread. Maybe I'll give it a shot one day.
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Old 03-17-2009, 10:04 PM   #124
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:47 PM   #125
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:50 PM   #126
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:51 PM   #127
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:56 PM   #128
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:06 AM   #129
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:04 AM   #130
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I'd never heard of Firefly before this thread. Maybe I'll give it a shot one day.

Be forewarned, I thought the pilot episode was absolute shit (I felt like they tried to cram 500 hours of storyline into one program. I damned near turned away from it after that. But I had bought the series on DVD, so I gave the 2nd episode a shot and some of the humor appeared as well as a vast slow down in character development (a good thing) and I thought, hmmm, that wasn't so bad. Then I tried the 3rd episode and the rest was history.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:46 AM   #131
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And I have a feeling that I will feel that Battlestar Galactica will have ended too soon when all is said and done.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:41 AM   #132
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:42 AM   #133
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Be forewarned, I thought the pilot episode was absolute shit (I felt like they tried to cram 500 hours of storyline into one program. I damned near turned away from it after that. But I had bought the series on DVD, so I gave the 2nd episode a shot and some of the humor appeared as well as a vast slow down in character development (a good thing) and I thought, hmmm, that wasn't so bad. Then I tried the 3rd episode and the rest was history.

That's interesting, because the reason FOX supposedly skipped the pilot episode when it was on is because they felt it was too slow. The 2nd episode was created to be the new pilot. I thought the original pilot was much better, and this switch was one of the many ways in which FOX screwed the series.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:07 AM   #134
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:10 AM   #135
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I have the DVDs, highly recommended.

Wow, I had forgotten that show. Funny show.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:11 AM   #136
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:12 AM   #137
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I have the DVDs, highly recommended.

Definitely one of the best DVD sets ever produced. Commentary for every single episode, including almost the entire cast (except Carla Gallo), even guest stars. Two different versions of certain episodes.

The only drawback to the set was that the episodes are not ordered chronologically, but instead by the date of airing, which screws up the whole continuity.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:27 PM   #140
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:52 PM   #141
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The shows that lasted 1 or 2 seasons- I definitely understand. I still will never get the Firefly following but I chalk it up to Whedon and strange phenomenons that I will never get like Boba Fett and internet memes.

But I'm curious about the 5+ years shows. There have been some justifications here for some, but do you really think they needed another season or seasons of venerable shows? I mean, for instance, I loved Cheers but when it went off the air it was time to go. A really rare example is when a show goes just about right, even more amazing if they close it out well. Deep Space Nine is about the best example of this I can think of. I've been racking my brain to try and come up with shows that went on too short and were more than 5 seasons long. Stargate Atlantis just finished at 5 and was probably a season or two too short- they still had a lot of good stuff going on, but SG-1 was easily 2 seasons too long.

The Simpsons should have been yanked years ago, after about season 10 or 8 if you're really critical. But here we are. Married With Children and Roseanne- classic sitcoms that definitely went too long. X-Files, should have closed it off and stopped at 7. Anyone clamoring for that 17th season of ER? Once Law and Order or CSI get cancelled, will it be too soon or too late? The other L&O's? I'm pretty sure we know that answer.

So, again, really, after 5 years how many cancelled shows needed to go on longer? I'm not saying there aren't any but just because you liked a show doesn't mean it hasn't reached its expiration date.

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Old 03-18-2009, 01:43 PM   #142
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"The Dresden Files" - was well chuffed when the series started, was fantastically well done ... and then cancelled

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Old 03-18-2009, 01:55 PM   #144
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:12 PM   #146
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Sorry...that show had long run it's course. It had a few funny moments here and there but that show simply ran out of steam.
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The shows that lasted 1 or 2 seasons- I definitely understand. I still will never get the Firefly following but I chalk it up to Whedon and strange phenomenons that I will never get like Boba Fett and internet memes.

But I'm curious about the 5+ years shows. There have been some justifications here for some, but do you really think they needed another season or seasons of venerable shows? I mean, for instance, I loved Cheers but when it went off the air it was time to go. A really rare example is when a show goes just about right, even more amazing if they close it out well. Deep Space Nine is about the best example of this I can think of. I've been racking my brain to try and come up with shows that went on too short and were more than 5 seasons long. Stargate Atlantis just finished at 5 and was probably a season or two too short- they still had a lot of good stuff going on, but SG-1 was easily 2 seasons too long.

The Simpsons should have been yanked years ago, after about season 10 or 8 if you're really critical. But here we are. Married With Children and Roseanne- classic sitcoms that definitely went too long. X-Files, should have closed it off and stopped at 7. Anyone clamoring for that 17th season of ER? Once Law and Order or CSI get cancelled, will it be too soon or too late? The other L&O's? I'm pretty sure we know that answer.

So, again, really, after 5 years how many cancelled shows needed to go on longer? I'm not saying there aren't any but just because you liked a show doesn't mean it hasn't reached its expiration date.

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I agree with most of this. I think it was definitely the case for "Buffy", for example. Other than a few fantastic single episodes, the quality of the show was declining from season 5 on. While I probably would have continued to watch it, had it continued to air, I think it was time for it to end. "Angel" could have had maybe another season, but even that's questionable.

As for Deep Space Nine, though my memory is a bit funny, I do recall it was starting to slip a bit. It was still higher quality than anything pre-Dominion war, but after Dax died and all, things were winding down. I am not sure if that show had anywhere else to go but down as well. Then again, my memory is a bit foggy on it at all.
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Sorry...that show had long run it's course. It had a few funny moments here and there but that show simply ran out of steam.

I disagree, but that's cool. I loved right until the end in 2004. The best thing about the show was it's dialogue, and that never suffered, imo. It was one of the last "smart" sitcoms. Now all we get is garbage like Two and Half Men.
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I disagree, but that's cool. I loved right until the end in 2004. The best thing about the show was it's dialogue, and that never suffered, imo. It was one of the last "smart" sitcoms. Now all we get is garbage like Two and Half Men.

No. We still have things like "The Office", "30 Rock" and "How I Met Your Mother." I think the balance of "smart" sitcoms versus "garbage" is probably pretty similar to what it always has been, especially considering the decline in the overall number of sitcoms on the air.
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