Tiger Woods - Page 3

Young Drachma · 06-15-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I really wish they'd start at the same time they did today so people with jobs could catch most of the playoff. Anyone know why they have to start around noon ET instead of putting it in primetime? They'd get better ratings, especially with Tiger in it.

Yeah, but the networks are loathe to cover it and figure that the odds of Tiger being in a playoff aren't always high, so if it's someone other than him, you're stuck with that matchup later in the day when folks are home and ready to watch more interesting programming for them.

Primetime TV is too lucrative and since ESPN gets the first half and NBC gets the second half, no way NBC wants golf to preempt some show.

As a more practical matter, players have to get going and so, they'd rather play earlier and get going, because while Tiger doesn't do it, depending on who the loser of a playoff is, they will go somewhere the following week and play.

But I think mostly it's a coverage issue and the fact that if Tiger isn't playing, golf doesn't have the pull in prime time. Especially on network TV. ESPN, sure.

sterlingice · 06-15-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

And a perfect game is good?

"Listen, I know there's a lot of jargon, but some of these are pretty self-explanatory"

SI

kcchief19 · 06-15-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

But I think mostly it's a coverage issue and the fact that if Tiger isn't playing, golf doesn't have the pull in prime time. Especially on network TV. ESPN, sure.

Yeah, ratings would be low if it were Rocco vs. Westwood. The only reasonable alternative would be to have a "Tiger Schedule" were if Tiger's in the playoff you tee off at 2 pm Pacific time vs. 10 am if he's not. I think Tiger would bring in a better audience that American Gladiators and Nashville Star. But I know the USGA doesn't want to treat Tiger differently than anyone else.

Plus, you tee off later it complicates other logistics -- everybody involved in the tournament has got to be somewhere Tuesday, and they want to get the tournament over.

But a Tiger playoff in prime time would be great for golf.

kcchief19 · 06-15-2008, 10:14 PM

I think this is going to be very interesting to see. You have two complete opposites paired together tomorrow. Rocco is relaxed, outgoing and talkative. Tiger is withdrawn and all business. I have never seen another player disturb Tiger's mood but you see Tiger disrupt other player's all the time.

I wouldn't mind seeing Rocco win and if he were playing anyone else, I'd be in his corner big time. But there is something cool about seeing the world's greatest golfer do his thing, and I want to see Tiger break every record he can.

Axxon · 06-15-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Yeah, ratings would be low if it were Rocco vs. Westwood. The only reasonable alternative would be to have a "Tiger Schedule" were if Tiger's in the playoff you tee off at 2 pm Pacific time vs. 10 am if he's not. I think Tiger would bring in a better audience that American Gladiators and Nashville Star. But I know the USGA doesn't want to treat Tiger differently than anyone else.

Plus, you tee off later it complicates other logistics -- everybody involved in the tournament has got to be somewhere Tuesday, and they want to get the tournament over.

But a Tiger playoff in prime time would be great for golf.

I agree it would be great for golf if it were in prime time but I agree that they shouldn't have a special Tiger rule either. One man is never more important than the sport...

except for Jonathan E!!!!!!!!

SirFozzie · 06-15-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Axxon

I agree it would be great for golf if it were in prime time but I agree that they shouldn't have a special Tiger rule either. One man is never more important than the sport...

except for Jonathan E!!!!!!!!

Love the Rollerball reference

kcchief19 · 06-15-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Nobody tell me about Orlando Rojas!

If only I had your phone number and could call you tomorrow after and tell you Tiger slipped on a tangerine peel and twisted his ankle pretty good.

Axxon · 06-15-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Love the Rollerball reference

I was such a Jonathan E mark it's insane.

[edit]

Had to add this trailer.

hxxp://blogs.tvland.com/movie_database/?genre=scifi&id=1256

sterlingice · 06-15-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

If only I had your phone number and could call you tomorrow after and tell you Tiger slipped on a tangerine peel and twisted his ankle pretty good.

Are you serious?

SI

Mike1409 · 06-15-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Zelig I get what you are saying to an extent. But I think a lot of it has to do with the announcers pointing out over and over again how much pain Tiger is in and critiquing the way he walks and his grimaces.

I don't want Tiger to win, I'll be honest. I never root for the guy and would rather have any other golf win but him. I am a huge Jack Nicklaus fan and I don't want Tiger beating his Major record. He probably will by the time he's done, but just because he is great, doesn't mean that I have to root for him.

I also don't like how every bad shot he hits he has to put on an act of how disgusted he is. If he isn't throwing his club, he's screaming god dammit, or pouting. So say it is because he is intense and hates to lose. But I bet there were 150 other golfers out there that hate to lose too.

And don't even get me started on his caddie, that guy is a grade A jackoff.

+1

SirFozzie · 06-15-2008, 11:27 PM

-2

As in Lolwut?

Pumpy Tudors · 06-15-2008, 11:27 PM

GO ROCCO

GO GREENSBURG

Zelig · 06-16-2008, 07:03 AM

Go Louden, beat Shute!

BrianD · 06-16-2008, 09:23 AM

I still have very mixed emotions with Tiger. I love watching him golf when he is golfing well and I enjoy seeing all of his amazing shots. I really dislike his overblown reaction shots and all of the media fawning.

I do wish I could watch the playoff today. After seeing Rocco yesterday and listen to his interviews, he is a very likable guy. I would not mind it at all if Rocco won. I also wouldn't mind if Tiger won. Either way, it should be a good day of golf.

miami_fan · 06-16-2008, 09:23 AM

Do they change the course again for the playoff or will the layout be the same as yesterday?

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 09:33 AM

I think we'll see new tee and pin placements.

Young Drachma · 06-16-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Do they change the course again for the playoff or will the layout be the same as yesterday?

Yeah, they change them. They already have a 5th set prepared in case of a playoff, as it turns out.

As a side note, the playoff will be simulcast on nbcsports.com today.

Fidatelo · 06-16-2008, 09:54 AM

I'm not much of a golf person, but I like Tiger. His pouty-face is kind of annoying, but he has brought a fire and passion to golf that makes it more interesting for someone like me. I can totally see how he might be annoying for actual fans of golf, however.

Logan · 06-16-2008, 10:46 AM

There's plenty of athletes that I think oversell their emotion when it comes to their game, but I really don't think Tiger is one of them. It might seem like an overreaction to us, when he throws a club on a shot that isn't great, but isn't exactly in the drink...but I get the feeling he's genuinely disgusted with himself for that brief moment.

BrianD · 06-16-2008, 10:57 AM

He probably is, but it still seems like poor form whether it is on the PGA tour, or on a Saturday morning friendly outing. I don't like to see golfers throwing their clubs after a bad short just like I don't like to see basketball players kicking a ball after a missed free-throw. The whole viewing public knows they screwed up and we know they know they screwed up. Theatrics aren't necessary.

kcchief19 · 06-16-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Yeah, they change them. They already have a 5th set prepared in case of a playoff, as it turns out.

The setup will be interesting. Saturday's setup was nearly perfect for Tiger, since they had it playing almost to the max with tight pin placements that favored distance and accuracy. Yesterday's setup was bizarre for Sunday at The Open -- as evidenced by the low numbers that the portion of the field out of the running put up. I heard someone report Torrey Pines was playing at 7,200 yesterday and most of the pin placements were pretty simple -- 18 alone played 50 yards shorter than Saturday with an easy pin placement.

If Torrey Pines is set up to play 7,600 today, that has to favor Tiger. If it's a shorter setup like Sunday, I like Rocco's chances.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 11:14 AM

Mediate bogies the first...Tiger pars.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 11:30 AM

ROCCO WAS MERE inches from a hole in one on 3. Tiger buried in the bunker.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-16-2008, 12:04 PM

Is the nbcsports' internet coverage very choppy for anyone else?

BrianD · 06-16-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Is the nbcsports' internet coverage very choppy for anyone else?

I am finding it very choppy which is screwing with the audio sync.

oliegirl · 06-16-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

ROCCO WAS MERE inches from a hole in one on 3. Tiger buried in the bunker.

That shot was amazing! I am pulling for Tiger, but really wanted that shot to go in...

Calis · 06-16-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Is the nbcsports' internet coverage very choppy for anyone else?

Unwatchable for me. I'm just listening to it now.

kcchief19 · 06-16-2008, 12:24 PM

Yeah, there are two of us in our office with it on right now. My co-worker's connection is working great. My video is about 3 minutes behind the audio. Ugh.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2008, 12:49 PM

Which site are you guys on? I am using the feed from usopen.com and it is working fine.

Young Drachma · 06-16-2008, 01:17 PM

I'm using the US Open feed from ESPN and it works great.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 01:29 PM

Tiger back to throwing clubs and swearing.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2008, 01:40 PM

The feed I was using has turned to shit. No picture, no audio. I have reloaded twice with no luck.

You bastards get back to work!

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 01:41 PM

Do you guys want updates? I took a half day to watch.

Pumpy Tudors · 06-16-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Do you guys want updates? I took a half day to watch.

Yes, please.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 01:52 PM

Tiger putts for eagle on 13...leaves it about 3 feet short. Rocco has a 5 footer for birdie.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 01:54 PM

Rocco birdies 13...Tiger also does. Tiger still up 1 after 13.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 01:58 PM

Rocco about 15 yards short of the 14th green...as is Tiger. Tiger is in the rough, Rocco is in the fairway.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:02 PM

Tiger left himself a 10-12 footer for par.

Rocco puts it a foot away.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:04 PM

Even after 14!!

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:14 PM

After 2 shots...Rocco on the green...Tiger is inside him. Tiger hit an amazing out of the sand.

oliegirl · 06-16-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

After 2 shots...Rocco on the green...Tiger is inside him. Tiger hit an amazing out of the sand.

That was beyond amazing...that is why I love watching him play golf.

spleen1015 · 06-16-2008, 02:17 PM

Tiger really wants to be at the beach today. Sheesh.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:17 PM

WHAT A BIRDIE!! ROCCO!!

kcchief19 · 06-16-2008, 02:19 PM

The USOpen.com feed is good although our office bandwidth sucks right now. The NBCSports.com feed I was using earlier was the single biggest steaming pile of crap I have ever used online. When the video worked it was still several minutes out of sync.

At USOpen.com the video is in synch but it keeps cutting out. It's also a good 10 seconds behind TV. We have it on in our lobby and I heard a roar when Rocco just made his putt but it took a while before it showed on my PC.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Tiger missed...Rocco up 1!!

oliegirl · 06-16-2008, 02:20 PM

So what happens if this round ends in a tie? Do they play another full round?

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:22 PM

Sudden death.

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:25 PM

Rocco is just short in the fairway on 16. Tiger is just on the front of the green with a back pin placement.

oliegirl · 06-16-2008, 02:25 PM

Cool, thanks guys

Dr. Sak · 06-16-2008, 02:29 PM

Rocco up first. He is putting from the fairway. He just missed a birdie!! He pars

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06-16-2008, 09:23 AM	#115
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06-16-2008, 09:54 AM	#118
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I'm not much of a golf person, but I like Tiger. His pouty-face is kind of annoying, but he has brought a fire and passion to golf that makes it more interesting for someone like me. I can totally see how he might be annoying for actual fans of golf, however. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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06-15-2008, 10:14 PM	#104
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I think this is going to be very interesting to see. You have two complete opposites paired together tomorrow. Rocco is relaxed, outgoing and talkative. Tiger is withdrawn and all business. I have never seen another player disturb Tiger's mood but you see Tiger disrupt other player's all the time. I wouldn't mind seeing Rocco win and if he were playing anyone else, I'd be in his corner big time. But there is something cool about seeing the world's greatest golfer do his thing, and I want to see Tiger break every record he can.

06-16-2008, 07:03 AM	#113
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06-16-2008, 09:23 AM	#114
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I still have very mixed emotions with Tiger. I love watching him golf when he is golfing well and I enjoy seeing all of his amazing shots. I really dislike his overblown reaction shots and all of the media fawning. I do wish I could watch the playoff today. After seeing Rocco yesterday and listen to his interviews, he is a very likable guy. I would not mind it at all if Rocco won. I also wouldn't mind if Tiger won. Either way, it should be a good day of golf.

06-16-2008, 09:33 AM	#116
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I think we'll see new tee and pin placements.

06-16-2008, 10:46 AM	#119
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	There's plenty of athletes that I think oversell their emotion when it comes to their game, but I really don't think Tiger is one of them. It might seem like an overreaction to us, when he throws a club on a shot that isn't great, but isn't exactly in the drink...but I get the feeling he's genuinely disgusted with himself for that brief moment.

06-16-2008, 10:57 AM	#120
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	He probably is, but it still seems like poor form whether it is on the PGA tour, or on a Saturday morning friendly outing. I don't like to see golfers throwing their clubs after a bad short just like I don't like to see basketball players kicking a ball after a missed free-throw. The whole viewing public knows they screwed up and we know they know they screwed up. Theatrics aren't necessary.

06-16-2008, 11:14 AM	#122
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Mediate bogies the first...Tiger pars.

06-16-2008, 11:30 AM	#123
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	ROCCO WAS MERE inches from a hole in one on 3. Tiger buried in the bunker.

06-16-2008, 12:24 PM	#128
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Yeah, there are two of us in our office with it on right now. My co-worker's connection is working great. My video is about 3 minutes behind the audio. Ugh.

06-16-2008, 12:49 PM	#129
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06-16-2008, 01:29 PM	#131
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Tiger back to throwing clubs and swearing.

06-16-2008, 01:40 PM	#132
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	The feed I was using has turned to shit. No picture, no audio. I have reloaded twice with no luck. You bastards get back to work! __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

06-16-2008, 01:41 PM	#133
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Do you guys want updates? I took a half day to watch.

06-16-2008, 01:52 PM	#135
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Tiger putts for eagle on 13...leaves it about 3 feet short. Rocco has a 5 footer for birdie.

06-16-2008, 01:54 PM	#136
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Rocco birdies 13...Tiger also does. Tiger still up 1 after 13.

06-16-2008, 01:58 PM	#137
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Rocco about 15 yards short of the 14th green...as is Tiger. Tiger is in the rough, Rocco is in the fairway.

06-16-2008, 02:02 PM	#138
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Tiger left himself a 10-12 footer for par. Rocco puts it a foot away.

06-16-2008, 02:04 PM	#139
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Even after 14!!

06-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#140
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	After 2 shots...Rocco on the green...Tiger is inside him. Tiger hit an amazing out of the sand.

06-16-2008, 02:17 PM	#142
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Tiger really wants to be at the beach today. Sheesh. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

06-16-2008, 02:17 PM	#143
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	WHAT A BIRDIE!! ROCCO!!

06-16-2008, 02:19 PM	#144
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	The USOpen.com feed is good although our office bandwidth sucks right now. The NBCSports.com feed I was using earlier was the single biggest steaming pile of crap I have ever used online. When the video worked it was still several minutes out of sync. At USOpen.com the video is in synch but it keeps cutting out. It's also a good 10 seconds behind TV. We have it on in our lobby and I heard a roar when Rocco just made his putt but it took a while before it showed on my PC.

06-16-2008, 02:20 PM	#145
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Tiger missed...Rocco up 1!!

06-16-2008, 02:22 PM	#147
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Sudden death.

06-16-2008, 02:25 PM	#148
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Rocco is just short in the fairway on 16. Tiger is just on the front of the green with a back pin placement.

06-16-2008, 02:29 PM	#150
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Rocco up first. He is putting from the fairway. He just missed a birdie!! He pars

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