I'll Never Understand the Hangup with...

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

There's been several people trying to explain things to you, but you apparantly have no desire to listen. Instead you call names. Yeah, that'll make people stop.

(shakes head)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

There's been several people trying to explain things to you, but you apparantly have no desire to listen. Instead you call names. Yeah, that'll make people stop.

(shakes head)

I'm going out on a limb here and assume that he was bottle-fed.

[Huckleberry]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

I'll agree with this. I'll also add that while I have NO trouble with a mother breast feeding an infant in public, I do get more than an uneasy feeling when I see some toddler(eithteen months plus) walk over and attach him/herself to their mother's breast. I've seen mothers breast feed up to four year olds, and that just ain't right.

Actually that's perfectly alright and falls within the worldwide norm. Certainly not the American norm, but as the interviewee in the article mentions, there's a blatant Puritanical streak in the USA.

The World Health Organization recommends continuing breastfeeding through at least 2 years of age, breastmilk being the only recommended nourishment through the first 6 months of life.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

Hmm, I figured you would have run into this whenever you tried to interact with people outside of your cult.

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.



/not really.

[finketr]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.

i don't.

but then again, according to my colleagues i am evil incarnate.

[jeff061]

To be clear, I wasn't being serious

[Noddadropp]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Hmm, I figured you would have run into this whenever you tried to interact with people outside of your cult.

Then again, everyone thinks Terpkristin's a bitch.



/not really.

What cult would that be? I wasn't aware I belonged to any cult.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Under NDP's standard, apparently the mouth and ears are also sex organs and should never be seen in public or on a magazine cover. What I really find offensive is NDP's attitude on this issue. With that said, I would not shut him up for speaking it. But if he does speak it, he ought to be prepared for the other viewpoint.

I get a kick out of the U.S.'s puritanical views on not so much the sex thing, but nudity. It's really hilarious. Allowing kids access to movies, tv shows, and video games where countless acts of violence (realistic violence at that) is bypassed right over instead to outrage over a bum or a boob. Simply hilarious. For those bible scholars, you do know that Adam and Eve arrived on this planet completely nude, right?

[Noddadropp]

As far as I know, they had fig leafs.

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

What cult would that be? I wasn't aware I belonged to any cult.

i wasnt gonna get involved in this, but since TK has always been pretty nice, IMO, and you asked....

Originally Posted by cnn.com

Polygamist gets 45 days for sex with teen bride
Investigator fears sentence sends wrong message
By Harriet Ryan
Court TV



Friday, August 4, 2006; Posted: 11:04 a.m. EDT (15:04 GMT)

(Court TV) -- An Arizona judge has sentenced a polygamist to 45 days in county jail for having sex with a teenager he took as his third wife.

The sentence disappointed authorities in Kingman, Arizona, who had hoped a harsher punishment for defendant Kelly Fischer would discourage others in the church from taking teenage wives.

Fischer was the first of seven members of the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints (FLDS) to be tried for plural marriages to minors.

"I don't know if we've sent a strong enough message to these people," said Gary Engels, an investigator with the Mohave County Attorney's office.

About 7,000 FLDS members live in the twin border towns of Colorado City, Arizona, and Hildale, Utah.

Members of the group, which broke with mainstream Mormons in the 1890s over polygamy, believe that only those in plural marriages can reach the highest level of heaven.

Warren Jeffs, the church leader or "prophet," is a federal fugitive from charges in both states stemming from his alleged arrangement of "celestial marriages" between teenage girls and older, married men.

The county prosecutor, Matt Smith, had asked Judge Steven Conn to sentence Fischer, 39, to some prison time. Fischer faced a minimum sentence of probation and a maximum of four years in prison.

As part of the sentence, Fischer must complete three years probation and register as a sex offender. He must report to jail by November 1.

Although polygamy is unconstitutional in Arizona, it is not a crime. Law enforcement largely left the FLDS alone until about 18 months ago, when Mohave County began investigating allegations of sex with underage girls.

Relying on birth certificates and testimony of former church members, a jury convicted Fischer last month of sexual contact with a minor and conspiracy for having sex with a 16-year-old.

The woman, now 21 and the mother of three children by Fischer, refused to cooperate with the prosecution and was among 130 people to send letters vouching for his character to the judge.

"We have a beautiful family together. I love my husband. He loves us and takes very good care of us. The children adore their father ... I don't need to explain my personal life to anyone," she wrote in the letter.

Fischer addressed the court for about a half hour, telling the judge that there was no coercion or abuse in his household.

"I can say for my life and my family that there's no one that's been pressured into doing anything they didn't want to do," the Las Vegas Review-Journal quoted Fischer as saying. "Every single person is very happy. There's no pain."

According to the paper, the judge told Fischer his religious beliefs did not justify breaking the law.

"There is no reason why people in Colorado City, simply because they subscribe to a different religious belief, should believe that they have the right to do something that everyone else in society cannot do," the judge said.

A day after the sentencing, Smith, the county prosecutor, was circumspect about the possible impact of any punishment handed down by an authority outside the insular community.

"I would've like to have seen him get more time, not so much that he needed to get it, but more along the lines of a deterrent factor," Smith said.

But, he said, "Does what we say really matter to them? It's what Warren Jeffs says that matters, and if he says marry a 16-year-old, then they are going to do that."

Another FLDS member, Donald Barlow, goes on trial on August 15.

[Noddadropp]

Since when did I belong to a fundamentalist mormon group that has been excommunicated for over 100 years?

Did one of you guys sign me up without my permission?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

As far as I know, they had fig leafs.

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.

and btw, the standard you set was in calling a breast a sexual organ, when it in no way has anything to do with sex, but only in stimulation...therefore, mouths and ears, which are also not sex organs, but are involved in stimulation, are also offensive....its called the transitive property i believe.

[JeeberD]

Those fuckers aren't representative of the vast majority of Mormons, saldana...

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

As far as I know, they had fig leafs.

Am I NDP?

Also, I'm a little confused. What is the standard that I've set that makes mouths and ears offensive? As far as I know, I've only discussed breasts and the male sexual organ.

1. The fig leaves came later. I think you know that.

2. You obviously don't get out much if you're unclear the role the mouth and ears play in an active and healthy sex life.

[Noddadropp]

That's like one of you guys saying that you're Christian, and me automatically linking you with the people over at godhatesfags DOT com
They're a "Christian" group, too.

If you're going to debate, at least be intellectually honest during the process.


LINK EDITED BY SKYDOG. No links to questionable sites.

[Noddadropp]

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Those fuckers aren't representative of the vast majority of Mormons, saldana...

of course i realize that....but i figured if NDP was going to make utterly ridiculous statements, i would too....turnabout is fairplay and all.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Vinatieri for Prez

You obviously don't get out much if you're unclear the role the mouth and ears play in an active and healthy sex life.

LOL!

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again?

Uhhh...mmmkay.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again?

WTF?!! I'm sorry, but were you dropped on your head as a child... or have you not had sex yet? I can't imagine anyone who has been sexually active saying there are no "sexual nerves" in the mouth or ears... WTF is a "sexual nerve" in the first place?!

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

There are no sexual nerves in the mouth or ears. There are sexual nerves in breasts. Does someone have to teach you 7th grade sexual education again?

Wrong. But maybe if you're being taught sex ed in Texas, that might be true.

[saldana]

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

[saldana]

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

[Noddadropp]

If you guys are saying that there are sexual nerves in the mouth and ears, I really don't know what else to say. Ask any doctor, nurse, nursing assistant, hospital custodian, or any junior high student currently taking health and they'll confirm the lack of sexual nerves in the mouth and ears.

Just because you can USE your mouth for sex, and you can HEAR sex, doesn't mean there are sexual nerves inside those organs. I honestly can't believe I have to explain this to adults. But then again, there are still adults who call their genitals "hoo-hoos" and "ding-dongs."

[Noddadropp]

If you guys are saying that there are sexual nerves in the mouth and ears, I really don't know what else to say. Ask any doctor, nurse, nursing assistant, hospital custodian, or any junior high student currently taking health and they'll confirm the lack of sexual nerves in the mouth and ears.

Just because you can USE your mouth for sex, and you can HEAR sex, doesn't mean there are sexual nerves inside those organs. I honestly can't believe I have to explain this to adults. But then again, there are still adults who call their genitals "hoo-hoos" and "ding-dongs."

[Noddadropp]

Sorry about the duplicate post. My computer stalled

[JeeberD]

Have you ever kissed a woman? Or had a woman kiss/lick/nibble your ears? .

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Have you ever kissed a woman? Or had a woman kiss/lick/nibble your ears? .

Obviously not. I wonder if he knows that there are women out there who get more turned on with deep kisses than having a man suck on her nipples.

[Noddadropp]

Originally Posted by saldana

serious question for NDP, and i am not asking this to be judgemental, but to perhaps give those of us that are thinking of you as quite the troll right now a little perspective:

do you have any children?

if so, were they breastfed?

if not, have you been involved sexually with a woman? (again, this isnt a dig, i do know that Mormons hold their premarital sex stricture very seriously)

1) I'm not going to answer any of those questions. They are none of your business and have little to do with the topic at hand. My OPINION is that I don't want to see breastfeeding on the cover of a magazine. I'm entitled to my opinion as are you. Instead of maturely allowing me to disagree you have decided to immaturely ridicule my beliefs and inquire as to my sexual history.

2) Considering the immature, insulting, and vulgar responses to my beliefs, I find it hard to believe that out of all the posts in this topic, I'M considered a troll. If you think I'm a troll, I won't lose sleep. However I think you need to look at yourself before you start slinging accusations my way.

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.

[sabotai]

This thread is making me hot!!!

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

1) My OPINION is that I don't want to see breastfeeding on the cover of a magazine.

Then don't look. Simple solution.

You control what makes you comfortable or not, not some magazine publisher. If you're uncomfortable, be an adult and remove yourself from the situation. Stop trying to push your hang up with breastfeeding onto the rest of us.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.

How about you define what a "sexual nerve" is and link to sources of that definition.

I've searched Biology-Online (http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary.asp), BioTech's Life Science Dictionary (http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/search/dict-search.html), The Dictionary of Cell and Molecular Biology(http://www.mblab.gla.ac.uk/~julian/Dict.html), I even checked Dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster Online. None of them have an entry for "sexual nerve" or "sex nerve".

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

3) Sexual nerves and which organs they are present in is not up for debate, nor does my experience with women change the simple facts of biology. I don't need to convince you that your ears do not have sexual nerves in them. If you want to believe that your mouth and ears are wired in the same way as your genitals, more power to you.

No, they aren't wired the same as genitals - neither are breasts. But they all are erogenous zones, and stimulation of all of those areas can produce sexual excitement. Stimulation of all of them does not necessarily produce the same results, and effects vary from person to person, but saying the breast is sexual in the same way as a penis is incorrect, as is asserting that the breast is sexual and yet the mouth and ears are not.

You either got a lousy education in human sexuality or you're being willfully ignorant. Doesn't really matter to me either way - I'm not the one who's wildly misinformed on this topic.

[Noddadropp]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

Then don't look. Simple solution.

You control what makes you comfortable or not, not some magazine publisher. If you're uncomfortable, be an adult and remove yourself from the situation. Stop trying to push your hang up with breastfeeding onto the rest of us.

Since when is simply disagreeing "pushing my hangup with breastfeeding onto the rest of you?"

The fact that many of you cannot tolerate a single differing opinion without calling it "preaching" or "pushing your hangups on us" is profoundly disturbing. You have different values than I do and I accept that. I don't think you're "pushing" them on me or shoving them down my throat. They're just different and I don't have a problem with you expressing them.

If there is intolerance here, it is coming from your direction, not mine.

[WVUFAN]

Dude, I had my education in West Virginia. We have "crecks" and "hollars", and the most common word here is "ain't", and even we ain't heard of no sex nerves.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Since when is simply disagreeing "pushing my hangup with breastfeeding onto the rest of you?"

The fact that many of you cannot tolerate a single differing opinion without calling it "preaching" or "pushing your hangups on us" is profoundly disturbing. You have different values than I do and I accept that. I don't think you're "pushing" them on me or shoving them down my throat. They're just different and I don't have a problem with you expressing them.

If there is intolerance here, it is coming from your direction, not mine.

You're absolutely right, there is intolerance coming from my direction.

I generally don't have much tolerance for stupid people.

[Noddadropp]

Originally Posted by Farrah Whitworth-Rahn

You're absolutely right, there is intolerance coming from my direction.

I generally don't have much tolerance for stupid people.

*shakes head*

Thank you for proving my point.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

If you're going to debate, at least be intellectually honest during the process.

Such as your intellectually honest comparison that every one who disagrees with you must be a high schooler?

You have to first find the high road before you can claim to be taking it.

[Noddadropp]

Originally Posted by cartman

Such as your intellectually honest comparison that every one who disagrees with you must be a high schooler?

You have to first find the high road before you can claim to be taking it.

The high-school comment refers to the immature name-calling and vulgarity in response to me expression my opinion. You know that.

Maturity and intellectual honesty: Am I really asking for so much?

[Desmond]

For fuck sakes. Dudes got his hands up, you can all stop shooting now.

[sterlingice]

I just wanted a chance to post this image since we're in a quasi-medical thread and all



Definitely one of the best Norm MacDonald moments

Originally Posted by norm

Well, a study this week reports seafood is good for you unless it's fried. Yet another groundbreaking story from the pages of the medical journal, "DUH" ... [Image of the October 1994 cover of DUH which features a photo of a doctor and lists a few articles: EXERCISE IS GOOD, MEDICINE CAN HELP, SMOKING IS BAD, EAT RIGHT FOR BETTER HEALTH and CANCER CAN CAUSE DEATH]

SI

[astrosfan64]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard. I will expect this type of petty insults and responses in the future.

(I'm not trying to offend everyone here. Just the high schoolers. Also the petty people. And Terpkristin who, apparently, is a real jerk)

Why don't you just goto another message board if you hate this one so bad. I'm guessing this is one of the banned come back.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Would people be ok with a male hand wrapped around a stiff penis for the magazine Sexual Health?

Or shouldn't I ask that here?

That's hardly an intellectually honest question, is it? More like a hand signed invitation for confrontation. Congratulations?

[molson]

Who knew that the people on this board were so passionate about breast feeding? Damn.

[PineTar]

Zoos should be banned. I once saw a mother gorilla breastfeeding its newborn. IN PUBLIC!!

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by molson

Who knew that the people on this board were so passionate about breast feeding? Damn.

You got your once and future mothers, as well as your men who enjoy exposed breasts....it's a powerful constituency. Titties for president.

[illinifan999]

Originally Posted by Noddadropp

Apparently I stumbled upon a large collection of high schoolers with their own messageboard.

This is like the most overused reply to someone you don't agree with on the internet. There are so many more attempted flames you could use that would be much more creative such as

I wish there was a blender large enough to stuff you in.
Swallow a knife.
I'd like to stuff you in an 8x10 locked room with a very horny Ronaldinho.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Yeah, I'm leaving this debate, now that I heard NDP come up with new biology terms and no clue about human sexuality. Nothing but empty arguments, which on the surface appeal to the ignorant but yet have no basis in fact (and which I am convinced were foisted upon him at an early age), simply thrown out there to justify prudish behavior sought to be enforced against the general public who aren't scared of boobs and nudity in general. As crazy as it may sound, naked boobs (on the cover of a magazine or otherwise) will not bring down civilization. In fact, it enhances it.

[Toddzilla]

"sexual nerves" ??
"fig leafs" ??
"the male sex organ" ??

People, lay off this guy, he's COMEDY GOLD. Don't make him go away. I want to hear him chime in on the next Hot'or'Not when he sees a woman for the first time without a Burka.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Desmond

For fuck sakes. Dudes got his hands up, you can all stop shooting now.

I submit that his hands aren't up yet. He may be outnumbered, but he's still firing.