NBA Playoffs

[DeToxRox]

RECOUNT

Nash for MVP = A Joke

KOBE FOR MVP

Signed,
Pistons Fan

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

RECOUNT

Nash for MVP = A Joke

KOBE FOR MVP

Signed,
Pistons Fan

I second that.

[jbmagic]

Wow

Its amazing what they did to Nash at end of regulation and again at end of overtime.

[korme]

Originally Posted by Subby

Kwame (rhymes with lame)

No it doesn't.. lol


But the ending in the 4th qtr, capped off by the ending in OT, made LA/PHX Game 4 the most exciting game yet.

[Franklinnoble]

Kings even up the series against the Spurs, and have really played three very good games since getting blown out in the opener. If they can steal one on the road on Tuesday, San Antonio is in big trouble...

[MrBug708]

That would be a trip, albeit unlikely one, if the Kings win. The top three seeds in the west would likely be out

[Young Drachma]

Kenyon Martin suspended for the rest of the playoff series? Well...he's outta there

[MrBug708]

He was going for a handful of nuts

[Franklinnoble]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

That would be a trip, albeit unlikely one, if the Kings win. The top three seeds in the west would likely be out

It's not terribly unlikely. All the lower seeds were really playing much better basketball late in the season. The Kings have been an entirely different team since the Artest trade, and Bonzi Wells got healthy.

[digamma]

I'll start by saying that Nash broke a cardinal basketball rule by dribbling to the corner of the court, setting himself up to be trapped, but does any other superstar in the league not get a foul call there (end of overtime)? Kobe does. LeBron does. Jordan would have. Bird would have.

[stevew]

I dunno, LeBron isn't really getting the calls like he was during the regular season. Something like 6 offensive fouls in the last 2 games I've watched. These Wiz guys are pretty good at flopping when it is questionable.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by digamma

I'll start by saying that Nash broke a cardinal basketball rule by dribbling to the corner of the court, setting himself up to be trapped, but does any other superstar in the league not get a foul call there (end of overtime)? Kobe does. LeBron does. Jordan would have. Bird would have.

I was shocked they didn't get a timeout called by anyone. I know Nash tried, but I guess the ref missed it. What about the other Suns?

[MrBug708]

Kobe had something like 4 fouls in 9 minutes

[Fouts]

Just saw Nash's comments about the game. He attributed the loss to bad luck. If Lakers take the series, they face the Clippers-Nuggets winners?

[MrBug708]

I believe so. The second round goes 2/3 vs 1/4

[heybrad]

Originally Posted by Fouts

I was shocked they didn't get a timeout called by anyone. I know Nash tried, but I guess the ref missed it. What about the other Suns?

Actually, in the press conference afterwards, Nash said he did not call a timeout although he said he thought one of his teammates did.

[Neon_Chaos]

LA Clippers vs. LA Lakers

It should make for an intersting series if both teams close out their respective games.

What's the ratio of Laker fans to Clipper fans that are going to attend the games? (which will all be held in Staples)

[MrBug708]

3-1 and that's at the CLippers home game

[miami_fan]

Congrats to the Mavs for moving on to the next round. The only upper seed to do what they are supposed to do. Kick the low seeds' ass

[JeeberD]

Easiest. Series. Ever. (for the Mavs)

Come on Kings and Spurs, beat the hell out of each other!

[Pumpy Tudors]

Time to bring up the same joke I made in the NHL playoff thread, except I'm talking about my own favorite team this time:

Just like when they were in Vancouver, the Grizzlies stop playing after 82 games.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Time to bring up the same joke I made in the NHL playoff thread, except I'm talking about my own favorite team this time:

Just like when they were in Vancouver, the Grizzlies stop playing after 82 games.

Yeah, i'm kind of dissapointed. I expected more out of the Griz as well.

[jbmagic]

If Lakers can take care of business tonight, I really think they can beat the Clippers.

I am hoping the Mavs make the western conference final. The Lakers match up well versus them.

[Arles]

Just another example of the extremely poor officiating in this series. I don't see how either ref missed Walton's foot (a good 5-6 inches out of bounds) on the tie up:

[Warhammer]

I really hate the Lakers white unis, bring back the yellow of the glory days.

Plus, what the heck is wrong with the Grizzlies in the playoffs. Granted, they have faced a juggernaut each year, but dang guys, win a game!

[heybrad]

Originally Posted by Arles

Just another example of the extremely poor officiating in this series. I don't see how either ref missed Walton's foot (a good 5-6 inches out of bounds) on the tie up:

Where were you after game 1. About 2 minutes to go in the game and the Lakers can cut it 2. Kobe gets clanked on the head by Tim Thomas producing a very noticable knot on his head. What does Tim Thomas have to say about it....

PHOENIX (AP) -- Tim Thomas admits he got away with whacking Kobe Bryant in the head at a critical point in Game 1 of the first-round playoff series between the Phoenix Suns and Los Angeles Lakers.

It was that kind of day for Thomas, whose season has gone from banishment from Chicago to a starting spot with the Pacific Division champion Suns.

Thomas made his first eight shots -- and finished 8-of-10 -- for 22 points and grabbed a career playoff best 15 rebounds in the Suns' 107-102 victory over the Lakers on Sunday. He also acknowledged responsibility for the knot on Bryant's head.

"I definitely fouled him," Thomas said Monday. "I got away with one but I didn't do it intentionally. It wasn't like I threw a jab at him."

So please, let's stop with pointing out one side of the officiating.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I am hoping the Mavs make the western conference final. The Lakers match up well versus them.

They do, Kobe seriously has their number. But watching the Mavs play lately they are looking like a team on a mission. They're making tons of crisp passes to find the open man, they're hustling and diving for loose balls, and they're playing tough defense. I really think they have a good shot at taking the whole thing.

[larrymcg421]

On the tie up, Walton's foot does go out of bounds, but it goes immediately in bounds and the whistle is blown while it is in bounds. I'm not sure what the exact rule is, but that picture doesn't really tell the whole story.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by heybrad

Where were you after game 1. About 2 minutes to go in the game and the Lakers can cut it 2. Kobe gets clanked on the head by Tim Thomas producing a very noticable knot on his head. What does Tim Thomas have to say about it....

PHOENIX (AP) -- Tim Thomas admits he got away with whacking Kobe Bryant in the head at a critical point in Game 1 of the first-round playoff series between the Phoenix Suns and Los Angeles Lakers.

It was that kind of day for Thomas, whose season has gone from banishment from Chicago to a starting spot with the Pacific Division champion Suns.

Thomas made his first eight shots -- and finished 8-of-10 -- for 22 points and grabbed a career playoff best 15 rebounds in the Suns' 107-102 victory over the Lakers on Sunday. He also acknowledged responsibility for the knot on Bryant's head.

"I definitely fouled him," Thomas said Monday. "I got away with one but I didn't do it intentionally. It wasn't like I threw a jab at him."

So please, let's stop with pointing out one side of the officiating.

Where did I say it was one-sided? I just said it's been very poor. I think the Suns have been hurt more (esp late in game 4), but they've gone against the Lakers at times too.

The Lakers deserve to be up in the series, but the officiating has been a major disappointment. If Joey Crawford does another game in the this series, it will be unwatchable. Whistles every 5 seconds, no game flow - just ugly.

[Neon_Chaos]

Let's go Lakeshow.

[Neuqua]

Hopefully the Bulls can ride their momentum and take one down in Miami today.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Warhammer

Plus, what the heck is wrong with the Grizzlies in the playoffs. Granted, they have faced a juggernaut each year, but dang guys, win a game!

Yeah, I'm with you. I have never expected the Grizzlies to win a playoff series, but being unable to win a playoff game is pathetic. They went from being a doormat in Vancouver to becoming a pretty good team over the past three years in Memphis. The playoffs just turn them back into their old Vancouver selves.

Maybe I should find video of their 10 playoff games just to make sure that Bryant Reeves and Pete "Chili Pete" Chilcutt didn't somehow re-materialize in Grizzlies uniforms when the playoffs started. This is getting ridiculous.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Yeah, I'm with you. I have never expected the Grizzlies to win a playoff series, but being unable to win a playoff game is pathetic. They went from being a doormat in Vancouver to becoming a pretty good team over the past three years in Memphis. The playoffs just turn them back into their old Vancouver selves.

Maybe I should find video of their 10 playoff games just to make sure that Bryant Reeves and Pete "Chili Pete" Chilcutt didn't somehow re-materialize in Grizzlies uniforms when the playoffs started. This is getting ridiculous.

There aren't nearly enough references to Pete Chilcutt here at FOFC. Not by a long shot.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

There aren't nearly enough references to Pete Chilcutt here at FOFC. Not by a long shot.

I aim to please.

[wade moore]

Wholy crap.

Did anyone else see Bell absolutely clothesline Kobe?!

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Bell better be suspended.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by gold101

Bell better be suspended.

Totally agreed. Completely blatant and uncalled for.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I aim to please.

Heh. Pete Chilcutt. I remember Theodore "Blue" Edwards... and that's it from that expansion team.

[Neon_Chaos]

Not just a clothesline. A clothesline, a grab and a throwdown to the floor. Wow.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Arles

Just another example of the extremely poor officiating in this series. I don't see how either ref missed Walton's foot (a good 5-6 inches out of bounds) on the tie up:

The whistle had already been blown at that point...so what difference does it make?

[MrBug708]

Dola, Raja Bell probably has the lowest basketball IQ, maybe even below Darius Miles. His team is cruising for the most part and might have momentum going into Los Angeles so he decides to piss of the best player in the league by clotheslining him? Whose going to guard Kobe next game? Steve Nash? Shawn Marion?

[Wolfpack]

Wow. A Pete Coldcuts reference. Another player who got into the NBA on the basis of playing at UNC (see Eric Montross, Joe Wolf, Kevin Salvadori, etc).

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Bryant Reeves

There's Country.

And then there's Big Country.

You can't teach height--but you can sign it to an ill-advised $65 million extension.

[stevew]

Friggin' Otis Thorpe.

Imagine if you had an inside outside combo of Gasol and Wade or Melo. Stu Jackson is horrible.

[stevew]

Bibby for White Chocolate wasn't too smart either...Hell, the Grizz transaction list pre-Logo is absurd. Francis nightmare, etc.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

The whistle had already been blown at that point...so what difference does it make?

If the whistle had been blown, why were the refs looking so intently at the play while crouching? Also, when the whistle blew, Boris Diaw was right next to the ref calling timeout. In this image, Boris isn't even in the picture yet which means it was well before the whistle blew. At any rate, the game's over and history now.

As to the Bell issue, he should be suspended. We'll see what happens in game 6, but I think the Suns could win this game without Bell. First, Kobe's going to want to one-up Phoenix and figure he can abuse Barbosa or James Jones (combo guarding him). Barbs is pretty quick though, so it will probably mean a lot of Kobe jumpshots. Which, IMO, works right into Phoenix's plans for transition. Plus, how are guys like Smush, Walton, Kwame and Sasha going to handle all the pressure coming with this game. If they lose game 6 at home (with Phoenix missing Bell), the LA media will kill them. You have to wonder how loose this team will be in this game.

But, we'll see. It will be a tough game - no doubt about that.

[stevew]

Boris Diaw is one of my favorite players in the league to watch. I think he's better than Joe Johnson, even before you factor in 2 #1 picks.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Dola, Raja Bell probably has the lowest basketball IQ, maybe even below Darius Miles. His team is cruising for the most part and might have momentum going into Los Angeles so he decides to piss of the best player in the league by clotheslining him? Whose going to guard Kobe next game? Steve Nash? Shawn Marion?

Not only that, did you see how PROUD he was that he did it?

idiot.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by stevew

Bibby for White Chocolate wasn't too smart either...Hell, the Grizz transaction list pre-Logo is absurd. Francis nightmare, etc.

Things have been pretty bad for the Grizzlies, but they're turning it around (in the regular season, anyway). When Hubie Brown joined the team, he really made Jason Williams into a textbook point guard. Could he help take over a game like Bibby? No, but Williams didn't turn the ball over, and he really reeled in those crazy passes and didn't complain. I don't think they lost much by having Williams at point guard instead of Bibby.

With that said, now that Williams is gone, the Grizzlies need a point guard again. Chucky Atkins was decent, but when he's your best PG, something's wrong. Damon Stoudamire only played a third of the season, and Bobby Jackson was just horrible when asked to play the point. Not counting Stoudamire's mini-season, Pau Gasol led the team in assists.

Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that Jerry West has just lost his mind over the past two or three years. Lorenzen Wright is an average center, but he made $7.7 million this year. Brian Cardinal still has four years left on his unfathomable contract at an average of just over $6 million per year. Eddie Jones is still a pretty good player, but he's scheduled to make $15.6 million next year, which is just too much for him. Can we get a point guard down there? Please? The only credit I can give Jerry West is that he let Stromile Swift leave, and a 6-year-old would have enough basketball savvy to make that move.

After analyzing the team this way, I almost want Pete Chilcutt back.

[Warhammer]

Actually the Williams trade made a ton of sense. Williams was a malcontent and for his performance had a terrible contract. They got all the malcontents out of town, and brought in Jones whose contract will expire after next year and then they'll have the money to bring in some big name free agents.

Lorenzen Wright will be allowed to walk after this year, but who they are going to replace him with I don't know.

Also, their record before Stoudamire went down was 26-10 I believe. After he went down, they went into a free fall. They really missed his leadership and he could create his own shot and was not afraid to take one at the end of games. Once he went down, they were a .500 team.