NFL: Wild Card Playoffs - Page 3

MIJB#19 · 01-07-2006, 06:42 PM

I had a hard time to even find a reason to justice the Redskins win. Although, if the Buccaneers can't even win with my magical help, then they're not worthy...

Logan · 01-07-2006, 06:44 PM

Mark Brunell's hair looked fantastic in the post-game.

Guess he didn't get sweaty or anything, only throwing for 26 yards.

kingfc22 · 01-07-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Mark Brunell's hair looked fantastic in the post-game.

Guess he didn't get sweaty or anything, only throwing for 26 yards.

Where is the QOTM thread.

Buccaneer · 01-07-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

Why to throw to the end zone again? why not a 10 yards pass?

I screamed at my wife saying the same thing. She said, 'what are you yelling at me for?'

When the Bucs got the ball back, I told Simms specifically not to throw an INT and when he did, I screamed at my wife saying, 'didn't I tell him not to throw an INT?' She said, 'maybe he didn't hear you.' F'n Longhorn Bastard.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Isn't Madden doing the Pats game? That's like going from bad to still bad.

I don't mind Madden as long as the game is close. It's during blow-outs that he and Michaels are really bad. Besides, the ESPN team is hands down the worst. Unlistenable.

cthomer5000 · 01-07-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

I don't mind Madden as long as the game is close. It's during blow-outs that he and Michaels are really bad. Besides, the ESPN team is hands down the worst. Unlistenable.

Agreed on all counts.

MIJB#19 · 01-07-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I screamed at my wife saying the same thing. She said, 'what are you yelling at me for?'

When the Bucs got the ball back, I told Simms specifically not to throw an INT and when he did, I screamed at my wife saying, 'didn't I tell him not to throw an INT?' She said, 'maybe he didn't hear you.' F'n Longhorn Bastard.

You should have let me do it, maybe I would have been able to get him to hear it. Or maybe not, only the Buccs defense heard my 'prayers' it seems. They heard the warning for Portis, heard it when I said they had to make the INT. But when I whipsered to make the td, the ball ended up being dropped in the end zone.

Dutch · 01-07-2006, 06:54 PM

Well, I'm obviously disappointed in the outcome, but I thought the Bucs did a great job keeping their composure after the 1st quarter. We all knew the Bucs were Super Bowl caliber, but what they did get was playoff experience in a bruising game for Chris Simms, Cadillac Williams, and Alex Smith.

Chris Simms "taunting" the defender...I am surprised how upsetting that is being received. Most defenders taunt offensive players (generally after the play is over). I enjoy it when offensive players cajole the defenders every once in a while, shows signs of life.

And if anybody ever spits in my face, I have the right to defend myself. To suggest that Michael Pittman should be thrown out of the game or given a penalty for being spit on is insane.

Anyway, I don't know if there are any Redskins fans on these boards, but your team played a fine defensive game on the road and definately deserve the right to move on. Congratulations to Redskins fans.

The Skins outplayed the Bucs today.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I screamed at my wife saying the same thing. She said, 'what are you yelling at me for?'

When the Bucs got the ball back, I told Simms specifically not to throw an INT and when he did, I screamed at my wife saying, 'didn't I tell him not to throw an INT?' She said, 'maybe he didn't hear you.' F'n Longhorn Bastard.

You should have had the game open in Madden so that you could diagram Simms' plays for her.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Well, I'm obviously disappointed in the outcome, but I thought the Bucs did a great job keeping their composure after the 1st quarter. We all knew the Bucs were Super Bowl caliber, but what they did get was playoff experience in a bruising game for Chris Simms, Cadillac Williams, and Alex Smith.

Chris Simms "taunting" the defender...I am surprised how upsetting that is being received. Most defenders taunt offensive players (generally after the play is over). I enjoy it when offensive players cajole the defenders every once in a while, shows signs of life.

And if anybody ever spits in my face, I have the right to defend myself. To suggest that Michael Pittman should be thrown out of the game or given a penalty for being spit on is insane.

Anyway, I don't know if there are any Redskins fans on these boards, but your team played a fine defensive game on the road and definately deserve the right to move on. Congratulations to Redskins fans.

The Skins outplayed the Bucs today.

not a 'Skins fan, but thanks for being a classy Bucs fan. My friend in Tampa is insisting that the referees gave the game to the 'Skins and is being a total bitch-baby about it.

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not a 'Skins fan, but thanks for being a classy Bucs fan. My friend in Tampa is insisting that the referees gave the game to the 'Skins and is being a total bitch-baby about it.

huh? I see no basis for that whatsoever.

Senator · 01-07-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

When the Bucs got the ball back, I told Simms specifically not to throw an INT and when he did, I screamed at my wife saying, 'didn't I tell him not to throw an INT?' She said, 'maybe he didn't hear you.' F'n Longhorn Bastard.

I never claimed him. I had four long years screaming to my wife the same thing. Welcome, rest of the world.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

huh? I see no basis for that whatsoever.

that's cuz he's an irrational whiney baby. he's saying that Arrington fumbled the ball and the Bucs player recovered at the end of it (arguing the down-by-contact) thing, and also arguing that the TD pass by Sims there at the end should have counted.

Suffice it to say he's not the most educated football fan. LOL

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:02 PM

dun, dun, dunna. MNF may generally have been crap, but I'm going to miss that.

Senator · 01-07-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I'm not saying he's special, i just posted those stats in response to those who were acting like Alex Smith was out there.

Well, I have been a long time unabashed hater, but at least I am consistent. He is the only player in recent memory that I have disliked. For four years, I saw arrogance, mediocre play, and constant praise. He is all yours my friend.

John Galt · 01-07-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

They say the word is that Taylor spit in Pittman's face, and that was the reason for the penalty.

EDIT: They just showed it again and you can see Taylor's head jerk forward a bit as if he did spit (couldn't see the spit...maybe someone with HDTV could see it?

)

I have HDTV and didn't see spit. But that doesn't mean it wasn't there.

Buccaneer · 01-07-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

Well, I have been a long time unabashed hater, but at least I am consistent. He is the only player in recent memory that I have disliked. For four years, I saw arrogance, mediocre play, and constant praise. He is all yours my friend.

I think I recall all of that. Didn't Troy and HM go round and round on Simms? I saw nothing in Simms that would justify any arrogance.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Well, I'm obviously disappointed in the outcome, but I thought the Bucs did a great job keeping their composure after the 1st quarter. We all knew the Bucs were Super Bowl caliber, but what they did get was playoff experience in a bruising game for Chris Simms, Cadillac Williams, and Alex Smith.

Chris Simms "taunting" the defender...I am surprised how upsetting that is being received. Most defenders taunt offensive players (generally after the play is over). I enjoy it when offensive players cajole the defenders every once in a while, shows signs of life.

And if anybody ever spits in my face, I have the right to defend myself. To suggest that Michael Pittman should be thrown out of the game or given a penalty for being spit on is insane.

Anyway, I don't know if there are any Redskins fans on these boards, but your team played a fine defensive game on the road and definately deserve the right to move on. Congratulations to Redskins fans.

The Skins outplayed the Bucs today.

1) It wasn't necessarily the taunt, it was doing it as he was running out of bounds. QB's should leave the taunting to the skill position guys. They just look idiotic doing it.

2) Ridiculous. The NFL isn't into making "judgement" decisions. If I'm an offensive linemen and you slam into my QB late, it doesn't give me the right to walk up and slap you. I do the penalties offset. The rules in this case aren't in gray or some sort of moral code.

A slap equals a 15 yard unsportsman like penalty. Period. It isn't written, a slap is a 15 yard penalty* where there are five situations it's ok to do it. It isn't.

I would have slapped him back as well. Hell, I may have went one further, I may have punched him. And if I did that, guess what? I'm ejected from the football game. Because a closed handed blow is an immediate ejection. No excuses.

Taylor is a punk and a jack ass who should be suspended for the rest of the playoffs if the spit did happen. What he did sickens me and should sicken ANY sports fan, regardless of team affiliation. But the Bucs most certainly should have been given a 15 yard penalty on that play.

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

Well, I have been a long time unabashed hater, but at least I am consistent. He is the only player in recent memory that I have disliked. For four years, I saw arrogance, mediocre play, and constant praise. He is all yours my friend.

I was honestly surprised he was drafted at all after his college career. He was pretty bad at Texas, iirc.

Cringer · 01-07-2006, 07:07 PM

That game would have crushed me if I was a Buc fan. Hell it was hard enough just cheering them on from a somewhat neutral stance. Not sure why i wanted them to win but that is who I rooted for. Loren was going for the Redskins, so we were yelling at each other on the so-called non-touchdown pass. I guess it was a dropped ball, but I didn't want to give her the satisfaction so easily.

Great defensive game to watch though. The playoffs are off to a good start. I just wish the Skins played the Bears next week, I think they could knock them off.

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:09 PM

PATRIOTS!!!!!!

Buccaneer · 01-07-2006, 07:10 PM

This is going to be like watching the Varsity game now that the JV game (league) is done.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:13 PM

Nick Kazur has some crazy eyes.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:13 PM

could that clown of an umpire have made any less of an effort to fucking duck?

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:14 PM

I can't get a grip on Byron Leftwich. Is he any good or not? He always seems like he plays really well, but the numbers are never quite there.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I can't get a grip on Byron Leftwich. Is he any good or not? He always seems like he plays really well, but the numbers are never quite there.

he's definately firmly in that 10-20 range in terms of best QB's. not good enough to make a pro bowl or win a championship, but not bad enough to spend another high draft pick on a QB.

Cringer · 01-07-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

could that clown of an umpire have made any less of an effort to fucking duck?

done with the case of beer already?

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

done with the case of beer already?

no beer here. just looked like he made very little effort to get out of the way. and yeah i suppose it was coming at him pretty damm fast. just pissed me off.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I can't get a grip on Byron Leftwich. Is he any good or not? He always seems like he plays really well, but the numbers are never quite there.

Numbers aren't so bad this year. 7 yards per pass attempt, 15 TD's against 5 INT's in 11 games. 90 QB rating. He's in his third year and he's gotten better every year. I think he's good. I think he'll be top ten good next year.

Cringer · 01-07-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

no beer here. just looked like he made very little effort to get out of the way. and yeah i suppose it was coming at him pretty damm fast. just pissed me off.

That's what I am saying, you finished it. "All gone, none here."

And I could tell it pissed you off. I can't understand well enough right now though, my team is sitting at home with no coach and no idea who is at QB or RB next year.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

no beer here. just looked like he made very little effort to get out of the way. and yeah i suppose it was coming at him pretty damm fast. just pissed me off.

Yeah, I'm sure on a cold night like this, that was the goal. Get nailed in the face by a Tom Brady pass. That's exactly how I'd like to open up the game.

Dutch · 01-07-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

But the Bucs most certainly should have been given a 15 yard penalty on that play.

If the referee's would ever change their bias to punishing the aggressor more than the retaliator, I would agree, but the reality is they usually don't see the aggressor's misdemeanor.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:24 PM

It's a Colts/NFL conspiracy. I have no doubt.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:25 PM

Can someone explain how that wasn't a holding on the second down play? Either the Jags lineman was running in quicksand or the center was yanking on the jersey. The field isn't that bad. Doesn't matter, because they would have declined the penalty anyway. Still, interesting to see.

The Jags are getting very good pressure on Brady without having to blitz. One scramble for a few yards and one sack with just four man rushes. NE needs to adjust, or they won't move the ball consistently.

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:26 PM

Ben Watson, grrrrrrr

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:27 PM

ADAM VINATIERI!!!!!!!!!!

Dutch · 01-07-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

not a 'Skins fan, but thanks for being a classy Bucs fan. My friend in Tampa is insisting that the referees gave the game to the 'Skins and is being a total bitch-baby about it.

I've met my share of Buc fans like that. And being in the military, I've met my share of whininy NFL fans from all over the league.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:27 PM

oooh. that was an amusingly great play. Make the Jags drive 95+ yards for a TD.

Cringer · 01-07-2006, 07:28 PM

No INT. His hands bounce it up to his chest, and then goes from there and hits the ground.

Still, I hate the whistle. "Play no reviewable because it was blown dead" is one of the things I hate to hear the most during any game.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Can someone explain how that wasn't a holding on the second down play? Either the Jags lineman was running in quicksand or the center was yanking on the jersey. The field isn't that bad. Doesn't matter, because they would have declined the penalty anyway. Still, interesting to see.

The Jags are getting very good pressure on Brady without having to blitz. One scramble for a few yards and one sack with just four man rushes. NE needs to adjust, or they won't move the ball consistently.

They moved it pretty well on that drive, just needed Watson to make a catch.

Cringer · 01-07-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

ADAM VINATIERI!!!!!!!!!!

I was going to say something about that play in my last post, then realized I didn't remember how to spell his name.

Great play by him though

st.cronin · 01-07-2006, 07:29 PM

lol @ the announcers calling Fred Taylor 'a horse'

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:31 PM

way to go Vrabel!!!

and while I'm at it...how is he not Pro Bowl? How are the Pats only sending 2 guys to the Pro Bowl this year???

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:31 PM

Hell of a tackle.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

They moved it pretty well on that drive, just needed Watson to make a catch.

They did. And Brady will make some plays. Doesn't matter how well you are playing.

But consistently? No. If the Pats don't do a better job of blocking, not only will they not move the ball consistently, the Jags are going to get the turnovers they need to win the football game.

The Pats need to protect him better.

As for the Jags, it's the polar opposite. They are protecting Leftwich incredibly well. NE isn't getting close with their four man rush. But Leftwich hasn't made them pay once. And Taylor MUST get a first down on that play. One on one against an LB needing a couple of yards, he has to make the play.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

way to go Vrabel!!!

and while I'm at it...how is he not Pro Bowl? How are the Pats only sending 2 guys to the Pro Bowl this year???

Have they ever sent a large contigent?

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Have they ever sent a large contigent?

no. and that's true. but still, just Brady and (shit who was the other who's going...I forget). Seems pretty paltry. Vrabel definately deserves to go that's for sure.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2006, 07:37 PM

can't believe he stayed on his feet that long. WHOA! nice coverage by JAX though. wow.

TroyF · 01-07-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

can't believe he stayed on his feet that long. WHOA! nice coverage by JAX though. wow.

LOL. I can't figure this out. The Jags rush four and they put all kinds of pressure on Brady early. They blitz and rush five and Brady has all day, with nobody to throw the ball to. Wow is right.

Desnudo · 01-07-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

no. and that's true. but still, just Brady and (shit who was the other who's going...I forget). Seems pretty paltry. Vrabel definately deserves to go that's for sure.

I think it's partly due to the voting wrapping up before the last few games of the season. If you think about, before the Bucs game, the Pats were basically considered dead and buried. Also, most players haven't played the full season. Finally, it's definitely a popularity contest. Look at some of o-line voting.

01-07-2006, 06:42 PM	#101
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	I had a hard time to even find a reason to justice the Redskins win. Although, if the Buccaneers can't even win with my magical help, then they're not worthy... __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

01-07-2006, 07:07 PM	#120
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	That game would have crushed me if I was a Buc fan. Hell it was hard enough just cheering them on from a somewhat neutral stance. Not sure why i wanted them to win but that is who I rooted for. Loren was going for the Redskins, so we were yelling at each other on the so-called non-touchdown pass. I guess it was a dropped ball, but I didn't want to give her the satisfaction so easily. Great defensive game to watch though. The playoffs are off to a good start. I just wish the Skins played the Bears next week, I think they could knock them off. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-07-2006, 07:09 PM	#121
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	PATRIOTS!!!!!! __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-07-2006, 07:14 PM	#125
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I can't get a grip on Byron Leftwich. Is he any good or not? He always seems like he plays really well, but the numbers are never quite there. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-07-2006, 07:26 PM	#135
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ben Watson, grrrrrrr __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-07-2006, 06:44 PM	#102
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Mark Brunell's hair looked fantastic in the post-game. Guess he didn't get sweaty or anything, only throwing for 26 yards.

01-07-2006, 06:54 PM	#108
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Well, I'm obviously disappointed in the outcome, but I thought the Bucs did a great job keeping their composure after the 1st quarter. We all knew the Bucs were Super Bowl caliber, but what they did get was playoff experience in a bruising game for Chris Simms, Cadillac Williams, and Alex Smith. Chris Simms "taunting" the defender...I am surprised how upsetting that is being received. Most defenders taunt offensive players (generally after the play is over). I enjoy it when offensive players cajole the defenders every once in a while, shows signs of life. And if anybody ever spits in my face, I have the right to defend myself. To suggest that Michael Pittman should be thrown out of the game or given a penalty for being spit on is insane. Anyway, I don't know if there are any Redskins fans on these boards, but your team played a fine defensive game on the road and definately deserve the right to move on. Congratulations to Redskins fans. The Skins outplayed the Bucs today.

01-07-2006, 07:02 PM	#114
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	dun, dun, dunna. MNF may generally have been crap, but I'm going to miss that.

01-07-2006, 07:10 PM	#122
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	This is going to be like watching the Varsity game now that the JV game (league) is done.

01-07-2006, 07:13 PM	#123
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Nick Kazur has some crazy eyes.

01-07-2006, 07:13 PM	#124
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	could that clown of an umpire have made any less of an effort to fucking duck?

01-07-2006, 07:24 PM	#133
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	It's a Colts/NFL conspiracy. I have no doubt.

01-07-2006, 07:25 PM	#134
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Can someone explain how that wasn't a holding on the second down play? Either the Jags lineman was running in quicksand or the center was yanking on the jersey. The field isn't that bad. Doesn't matter, because they would have declined the penalty anyway. Still, interesting to see. The Jags are getting very good pressure on Brady without having to blitz. One scramble for a few yards and one sack with just four man rushes. NE needs to adjust, or they won't move the ball consistently.

01-07-2006, 07:27 PM	#136
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	ADAM VINATIERI!!!!!!!!!! __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-07-2006, 07:27 PM	#138
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oooh. that was an amusingly great play. Make the Jags drive 95+ yards for a TD.

01-07-2006, 07:28 PM	#139
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	No INT. His hands bounce it up to his chest, and then goes from there and hits the ground. Still, I hate the whistle. "Play no reviewable because it was blown dead" is one of the things I hate to hear the most during any game. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

01-07-2006, 07:29 PM	#142
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	lol @ the announcers calling Fred Taylor 'a horse' __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-07-2006, 07:31 PM	#143
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	way to go Vrabel!!! and while I'm at it...how is he not Pro Bowl? How are the Pats only sending 2 guys to the Pro Bowl this year???

01-07-2006, 07:31 PM	#144
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Hell of a tackle.

01-07-2006, 07:37 PM	#148
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	can't believe he stayed on his feet that long. WHOA! nice coverage by JAX though. wow.

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