New NHL EHM game first impressions - Page 3

klayman · 10-07-2005, 04:50 PM

me three

riz · 10-08-2005, 04:44 AM

Praising and criticizing players is on our "future to-do" lists. Not certain for the next version yet though. The thing is, it's quite easy to add two buttons, one that says "Praise player" and one that says "Criticize player", but creating and balancing the effects of those two buttons is a lot more work...especially when you've got such a wide variety of users playing the game, some of which would most likely be clicking these multiple times a day for one player and some would just ignore them

Flasch186 · 10-08-2005, 11:37 AM

sorting the players on the waiver wire....it is impossible to compare them all when having to click on each one. That is a HUGE complaint. The waiver wire basically, as it is now, is 5% useful, 95% cumbersome and useless.

riz · 10-08-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

sorting the players on the waiver wire....it is impossible to compare them all when having to click on each one. That is a HUGE complaint. The waiver wire basically, as it is now, is 5% useful, 95% cumbersome and useless.

There aren't usually that many players on waivers. The reason why there are now more than normally, is because NHL did away with the waiver draft.

How would you like to sort the players on the waiver wire ? Any additional views (ie. other columns) you'd like to see there ? We can add them in the future, just let us know

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, this is the very first time someone has had a complaint about that screen. But hey, there's always a first time for everything

Honolulu_Blue · 10-08-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by riz

There aren't usually that many players on waivers. The reason why there are now more than normally, is because NHL did away with the waiver draft.

How would you like to sort the players on the waiver wire ? Any additional views (ie. other columns) you'd like to see there ? We can add them in the future, just let us know

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, this is the very first time someone has had a complaint about that screen. But hey, there's always a first time for everything

Probably because, until the new patch, it was never an issue becuase of the reasons you state above. Back in the day, when there was a waiver draft, the big "waiver dump" was sortable because it was setup as a draft. I used to spend a lot of time sorting through players, trying to decide who to pick up. I could see where a similar volume of players could create the problems Flasch is having.

Flasch186 · 10-08-2005, 03:32 PM

LOL, perhaps have it be setup like a regular roster screen, with the attributes tab, general tab, etc. If i were a GM Im sure I would want to be able to compare and contrast the players, etc.

bhlloy · 10-08-2005, 06:51 PM

Riz... couple of more random things I've noticed as I've now got to the start of my second season.

Somebody won the Lady Byng equivalent (sportsmanship) in one of the CHL leagues with 90 PIM's on the season. Doesn't seem right to me. I can check who and which league if needed. The NHL one seems to be fine though - Gagne won it and he only had 10 PIM's.

Hall of fame inductions for the NHL seems to be pretty wacky. Seven players made it including Vincent Damphousse (questionable), Shayne Corson (questionable), James Patrick (no way) and Scott Young (LOL) All had over 1000 games and over 300 points which I guess is the criteria. Seems very low.
On that issue, is there a file we can edit to allow the real life NHL hall of fame to appear in the game? That would be awesome and would really add some history and realism.

EDIT - just wanted to add that Damphousse and Young hadn't even technically retired. They were still FA's and their last season was showing up on the HOF screen as the 2006/07 season, which I haven't even started. Scott Stevens took a coaching position with some team in Florida and has retired, and he hasn't been inducted into the HOF.

Hurst2112 · 10-08-2005, 07:27 PM

stupid question:

Have the player incentives been removed? Goals, Assists and other things per season? I look under the extras and they aren't there.

riz · 10-08-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Riz... couple of more random things I've noticed as I've now got to the start of my second season.

Hall of fame inductions for the NHL seems to be pretty wacky. Seven players made it including Vincent Damphousse (questionable), Shayne Corson (questionable), James Patrick (no way) and Scott Young (LOL) All had over 1000 games and over 300 points which I guess is the criteria. Seems very low.
On that issue, is there a file we can edit to allow the real life NHL hall of fame to appear in the game? That would be awesome and would really add some history and realism.

If you look around in the game, every league has its own hall of fame. The criteria to enter a hall of fame in EHM is not modelled after any real life criteria, as the hall of fames in the game are not real. They were introduced to store some career recaps on the players who had good careers in that league.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-08-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

stupid question:

Have the player incentives been removed? Goals, Assists and other things per season? I look under the extras and they aren't there.

Under the new CBA, these types of incentives are only allowed for a certain type of player. I don't remember the limitations off hand, but these types of incentives/bonuses are limited to older guys who didn't play a full season or such.

bhlloy · 10-09-2005, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by riz

If you look around in the game, every league has its own hall of fame. The criteria to enter a hall of fame in EHM is not modelled after any real life criteria, as the hall of fames in the game are not real. They were introduced to store some career recaps on the players who had good careers in that league.

I can see where you are coming from, however any chance you could make the criteria and the history editable for any league (maybe release the code/file details for this so a third party editor could be made?) I'd much prefer a "realistic" NHL hall of fame, and in other leagues to be able to choose the criteria as well. This would be a nice touch bringing EHM in line with OOTP.

klayman · 10-09-2005, 07:32 AM

Well, I just finished my first season post-patch with the Kamloops Blazers. I was named as a challenger for the WHL title despite being listed 11th in the league. I should have know right then the season I was to have in store. After a quick start, the team fell back down to earth, and I started rebuilding by shipping out the older players for draft picks and youngsters, and letting my younger ones get considerably more ice time. However, the kids ended up producing very well, and by Christmas we were well within the hunt. A season high 7 straight wins took us to the top of the league and a spot on the Top 10 CHL list. That was followed by a season high 10 straight losses (the first 8 without a single point from OT or a shootout). We dropped very quickly in the standings, hovering around 4th in our division, 10th in the league.

This set the tone for the rest of the season, but what can you expect from 16 and 17 year olds. After dangling close to not making the playoffs, a late surge pushed us into 2nd in the division and a first round playoff battle against rivals Kelowna. I don't think I've ever seen two teams so evenly matched against each other, as the stats of both teams were nearly identical in every category. Predictably, the series when back and forth, and we managed a 7th game 4-2 win with 3 PPG in the 2nd period. Thank you Mr. Referee.

That led to a 2nd round showdown with 1st place Vancouver, who struggled early in the season, but had to be one of the best teams in the league for the 2nd half. They outclassed us all season, and quickly jumped to a 3-0 game lead, outscoring us 12-3 in the process. Only a OT goal saved us from getting swept at home in the 4th game, and as we headed back to Vancouver, I was more busy planning for the draft then expecting any further playoff action. A gutsy defensive performance gave us a 2-1 win however, and a 4-2 win at home tied the series at 3. Back to Vancouver and the kids pull it out with a 4-3 win in OT.

Then come the injuries. As if my lineup wasn't thin enough as it was, 4 of my few remaining veteran players fall before the next series against Seattle, and once again we find ourselves 3-0 down. One by one, the veterans make their way back into the lineup, and we close the gap, again forcing a 7th game. Could we do it again, and sneak our way into the final? Sadly, no. Seattle was in complete control in game 7, and brushed us aside, but a successful season considering I had given up on us getting anywhere about 10 times during the year.

As a positve footnote, one of the early trades netted the 1st round pick overall in the upcoming Bantam draft.

JeffR · 10-09-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by klayman

Well, I just finished my first season post-patch with the Kamloops Blazers. I was named as a challenger for the WHL title despite being listed 11th in the league.

My bad. The team's reputation determines the expectations for them, and I hadn't updated the WHL reputations from last season because I was waiting to find a good season preview to base them on. Got one from the Kelowna newspaper now, so the final update will have them reflective of this year's expectations.

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This set the tone for the rest of the season, but what can you expect from 16 and 17 year olds. After dangling close to not making the playoffs, a late surge pushed us into 2nd in the division and a first round playoff battle against rivals Kelowna. I don't think I've ever seen two teams so evenly matched against each other, as the stats of both teams were nearly identical in every category. Predictably, the series when back and forth, and we managed a 7th game 4-2 win with 3 PPG in the 2nd period. Thank you Mr. Referee.

You got lucky.

Kamloops has a lot of talent on paper, but serious leadership and cohesiveness problems. In 20+ years of watching the WHL, I'd never seen a Kamloops team quit when they're down by a couple, but I've now seen it three times in the last two years. Just no heart at all. And their hidden mental ratings tend to reflect that, while Kelowna's are what you'd expect from a team with one national and two league championships in the last three years.

Joe Canadian · 10-09-2005, 11:42 PM

I haven't downloaded the pacth yet... I'm waiting for the season update, and I'm trying to get to 2012 in my Rangers career with the old patch.

But can anyone comment on the Team Needs section? Are you able to list draft picks as a need yet... while this is a great feature, when you're rebuilding it sucks something bad that you can't tell everyone you really, really need extra picks.

klayman · 10-10-2005, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

My bad. The team's reputation determines the expectations for them, and I hadn't updated the WHL reputations from last season because I was waiting to find a good season preview to base them on.

No worries Jeff. I finished 11th and made it to the 7th game of the Western Conference Final. I'd say the prediction was right on.

klayman · 10-10-2005, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

I haven't downloaded the pacth yet... I'm waiting for the season update, and I'm trying to get to 2012 in my Rangers career with the old patch.

But can anyone comment on the Team Needs section? Are you able to list draft picks as a need yet... while this is a great feature, when you're rebuilding it sucks something bad that you can't tell everyone you really, really need extra picks.

Don't think so. I've noticed in both the NHL and WHL you'll get alot more picks in the AI's offers though.

rewissick · 10-10-2005, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riz

There aren't usually that many players on waivers. The reason why there are now more than normally, is because NHL did away with the waiver draft.

How would you like to sort the players on the waiver wire ? Any additional views (ie. other columns) you'd like to see there ? We can add them in the future, just let us know

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, this is the very first time someone has had a complaint about that screen. But hey, there's always a first time for everything

How about if the waiver wire had a search function similiar to the draft or regular player search? Or, add in 'Waived' as a player status so I can sort thru all of them in the regular player search screen, like I do with UFAs?

G-Man · 10-12-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep you can download it.

but if its going to be in the US stores, then i rather buy it from the store.

Why is that?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-12-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Man

Why is that?

Why would someone rather buy it from a store than download it? If I had the choice, I would always go with the store bought disc. It allows you to install it whenever and wherever you like. You don't have to worry about the number of installs you have or dealing with some of the headaches that arise from downloading a game.

I paid the extra money when EHM came out and had the game shipped over from Europe as opposed to buying the download.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-12-2005, 03:42 PM

Dola.

Any ETA on the new database update? I've been holding off starting a new career and installing the "NA Super Patch" until the most recent update is available.

sovereignstar · 10-12-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Dola.

Any ETA on the new database update? I've been holding off starting a new career and installing the "NA Super Patch" until the most recent update is available.

Have all the leagues started playing now? When does the ECHL kick off?

JeffR · 10-12-2005, 05:26 PM

Out by the end of the month, hopefully, but I wouldn't be too upset if that slid back a little to give us a few more days to work on the database.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-12-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

Out by the end of the month, hopefully, but I wouldn't be too upset if that slid back a little to give us a few more days to work on the database.

Is this just going to be a database update or a patch as well?

Schmidty · 10-12-2005, 05:33 PM

So is there ever going to be an FOFC EHM league?

JeffR · 10-12-2005, 05:35 PM

Patch too. I think Riz and Graeme have made scattered mentions of what they're fixing on the SI boards, but I'm eyebrow-deep in database work right now so I haven't been keeping up with that.

Sweed · 10-12-2005, 06:07 PM

Ok, fedex just dropped off my copy of ehm and I am off until Monday

Though I have a basic understanding of hockey there is much to learn especially
on the contract, waiver rules, free agency, etc. etc. etc.
Some I've figured out but one I haven't is on the player card, it says

value
asking

under where it shows who drafted the player and has his rights.

Could someone explaing what the value and asking is?

JeffR · 10-12-2005, 06:23 PM

That's mainly there for the European leagues, where players are sold rather than traded. Approximate value he'd be worth in a sale, and the team's actual asking price.

TurnerONU22 · 10-12-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

So is there ever going to be an FOFC EHM league?

I hope so, but I don't know if anyone has stepped up to be a commish. I bumped the thread a couple weeks ago and got little response, so I'm not sure of how many would still want to do it.

I would be willing to do it, but I would have to have a co-commish that would help with website stuff and run sims when I couldn't. There's just always a few days that I have college/grad school application stuff that is piled up and needs to get done.

TazFTW · 10-14-2005, 07:15 PM

Well, I did my part. Looked up EHM at Gamestop.com, used their Check Store Availability, and it listed 2 stores here that had copies. Just picked it up.

st.cronin · 11-04-2005, 08:47 PM

I'm enjoying this game a lot. My suggestions for patchs/future versions

1. keyboard shortcuts - I would rather navigate this sort of game with my keyboard than my mouse

2. the ability to highlight a long list of players and add to the shortlist ... the way I scout the draft is, I send my scouts to look at the incoming draft class, then add guys to my shortlist, then send my scouts to look at the shortlist ... but it's too cumbersome a process right now. Putting the shortlist together is about 30 minutes of clicking.

More to come, perhaps...

Joe Canadian · 11-04-2005, 09:54 PM

For those that have the patch downloaded... can you comment on the frequency of GM\Coach firing? I'm in the year 2011 with my Rangers dyanasty, and I'm estimating that 80% of GM's are still in place, and it's only within the last year or so that teams have been beginning to make Front Office & Coaching changes. When they do, NHL teams seem to be hiring alot of Euro guys... which isn't how it works in the real NHL.

JeffR · 11-05-2005, 12:26 AM

Looking at a couple of saves from tests on the upcoming patch, NHL GM turnover seems to be about three per year; real life is probably around 4, so it's close.

Blade6119 · 11-05-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Well, I did my part. Looked up EHM at Gamestop.com, used their Check Store Availability, and it listed 2 stores here that had copies. Just picked it up.

I cant find it on their site...little help?

JeffR · 11-05-2005, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I cant find it on their site...little help?

Looks like it's gone now. But it's still on Amazon and Walmart.

riz · 11-05-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

Looks like it's gone now. But it's still on Amazon and Walmart.

Sega US is currently looking into why the game is no longer listed at Gamestop.

JeffR · 11-05-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by riz

Sega US is currently looking into why the game is no longer listed at Gamestop.

That makes me feel much better.

Sweed · 11-05-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

Looks like it's gone now. But it's still on Amazon and Walmart.

JeffR, your link at walmart is to last years version. The link here

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/searc...d&ics=20&ico=0

shows ehm 2005 is also out of stock at walmart.

Is it selling better than expected? Hope so. Be nice to actually see it in more stores next year.

riz · 11-07-2005, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweed

Is it selling better than expected? Hope so. Be nice to actually see it in more stores next year.

Hopefully yes. Also out of stock at target.com apparantly. And a lot of people have been saying they got the last copy when they visited their local EB (not that those places had many copies to start with, but anyways...)

Pumpy Tudors · 11-07-2005, 10:04 AM

Any idea on when the next patch/roster update will be out?

riz · 11-07-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Any idea on when the next patch/roster update will be out?

The roster update / patch to version 2.1.2 will be out early this week. So very soon.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-07-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by riz

The roster update / patch to version 2.1.2 will be out early this week. So very soon.

This is excellent news. Thank you!

Joe Canadian · 11-07-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riz

The roster update / patch to version 2.1.2 will be out early this week. So very soon.

Awesome!

Honolulu_Blue · 11-07-2005, 11:14 AM

Yes, this is very good news indeed!

Apathetic Lurker · 11-08-2005, 11:03 AM

You would think game stores in ALL NHL cities would carry this game. But no. Not damn Buffalo. EB? no..Gamestop? nope..Target, Walmart, Compusa?..zilch. Called or visited all and pestered the employees with title and UPC .. Not a damn thing.. Funny thing is I was in Abilene,TX this past summer and saw both hockey and soccer games from SI in a gamestop. Guy told me he never sold a single copy of EHM . Abeline and not Buffalo..go figure....crazy distribution.

Oh well, off my rant and time to think if I want to order from a online retailer.(not a big fan of letting my cc info traipse thru the phonelines though.)

Simms · 11-08-2005, 12:41 PM

2.1.2 Patch is out.

http://community.sigames.com/groupee...5/m/2712088471

scooter · 11-08-2005, 01:16 PM

Thanks, I've been waiting for this for a while.

BuffaloHuskey · 11-08-2005, 01:17 PM

A L - Don't you know you are in Buffalo, they can't do anything right there

. Hell it has taken more than five years to come up with a design for the damn Peace Bridge and forget about the water front, that development will take 30 years.

Although I still have Buffalo pride, they have got to get their shit together otherwise they will continue to lose the younger generations.

Pumpy Tudors · 11-08-2005, 01:22 PM

Does the new patch include new data with updated rosters? I understand that I would have to start a new game to use the new data, but I didn't see any mention of new data in the changelog.

NoSkillz · 11-08-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Does the new patch include new data with updated rosters? I understand that I would have to start a new game to use the new data, but I didn't see any mention of new data in the changelog.

Data has been completely updated in this patch. We handed in the DB around the end of October so things should be accurate to that point.

Simms · 11-08-2005, 01:31 PM

Crosby starts on the Penguins, and combined with a few other unscientific spot-checks, it would appear that yes, the rosters have been updated.

10-08-2005, 11:37 AM	#103
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	sorting the players on the waiver wire....it is impossible to compare them all when having to click on each one. That is a HUGE complaint. The waiver wire basically, as it is now, is 5% useful, 95% cumbersome and useless. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-08-2005, 03:32 PM	#106
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	LOL, perhaps have it be setup like a regular roster screen, with the attributes tab, general tab, etc. If i were a GM Im sure I would want to be able to compare and contrast the players, etc. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

10-08-2005, 06:51 PM	#107
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Riz... couple of more random things I've noticed as I've now got to the start of my second season. Somebody won the Lady Byng equivalent (sportsmanship) in one of the CHL leagues with 90 PIM's on the season. Doesn't seem right to me. I can check who and which league if needed. The NHL one seems to be fine though - Gagne won it and he only had 10 PIM's. Hall of fame inductions for the NHL seems to be pretty wacky. Seven players made it including Vincent Damphousse (questionable), Shayne Corson (questionable), James Patrick (no way) and Scott Young (LOL) All had over 1000 games and over 300 points which I guess is the criteria. Seems very low. On that issue, is there a file we can edit to allow the real life NHL hall of fame to appear in the game? That would be awesome and would really add some history and realism. EDIT - just wanted to add that Damphousse and Young hadn't even technically retired. They were still FA's and their last season was showing up on the HOF screen as the 2006/07 season, which I haven't even started. Scott Stevens took a coaching position with some team in Florida and has retired, and he hasn't been inducted into the HOF. Last edited by bhlloy : 10-08-2005 at 06:54 PM.

10-08-2005, 07:27 PM	#108
Hurst2112 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Minneapolis	stupid question: Have the player incentives been removed? Goals, Assists and other things per season? I look under the extras and they aren't there. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/longliveanalog

10-09-2005, 11:42 PM	#114
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	I haven't downloaded the pacth yet... I'm waiting for the season update, and I'm trying to get to 2012 in my Rangers career with the old patch. But can anyone comment on the Team Needs section? Are you able to list draft picks as a need yet... while this is a great feature, when you're rebuilding it sucks something bad that you can't tell everyone you really, really need extra picks. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

10-07-2005, 04:50 PM	#101
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	me three

10-08-2005, 04:44 AM	#102
riz SI Games Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland	Praising and criticizing players is on our "future to-do" lists. Not certain for the next version yet though. The thing is, it's quite easy to add two buttons, one that says "Praise player" and one that says "Criticize player", but creating and balancing the effects of those two buttons is a lot more work...especially when you've got such a wide variety of users playing the game, some of which would most likely be clicking these multiple times a day for one player and some would just ignore them

10-09-2005, 07:32 AM	#112
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	Well, I just finished my first season post-patch with the Kamloops Blazers. I was named as a challenger for the WHL title despite being listed 11th in the league. I should have know right then the season I was to have in store. After a quick start, the team fell back down to earth, and I started rebuilding by shipping out the older players for draft picks and youngsters, and letting my younger ones get considerably more ice time. However, the kids ended up producing very well, and by Christmas we were well within the hunt. A season high 7 straight wins took us to the top of the league and a spot on the Top 10 CHL list. That was followed by a season high 10 straight losses (the first 8 without a single point from OT or a shootout). We dropped very quickly in the standings, hovering around 4th in our division, 10th in the league. This set the tone for the rest of the season, but what can you expect from 16 and 17 year olds. After dangling close to not making the playoffs, a late surge pushed us into 2nd in the division and a first round playoff battle against rivals Kelowna. I don't think I've ever seen two teams so evenly matched against each other, as the stats of both teams were nearly identical in every category. Predictably, the series when back and forth, and we managed a 7th game 4-2 win with 3 PPG in the 2nd period. Thank you Mr. Referee. That led to a 2nd round showdown with 1st place Vancouver, who struggled early in the season, but had to be one of the best teams in the league for the 2nd half. They outclassed us all season, and quickly jumped to a 3-0 game lead, outscoring us 12-3 in the process. Only a OT goal saved us from getting swept at home in the 4th game, and as we headed back to Vancouver, I was more busy planning for the draft then expecting any further playoff action. A gutsy defensive performance gave us a 2-1 win however, and a 4-2 win at home tied the series at 3. Back to Vancouver and the kids pull it out with a 4-3 win in OT. Then come the injuries. As if my lineup wasn't thin enough as it was, 4 of my few remaining veteran players fall before the next series against Seattle, and once again we find ourselves 3-0 down. One by one, the veterans make their way back into the lineup, and we close the gap, again forcing a 7th game. Could we do it again, and sneak our way into the final? Sadly, no. Seattle was in complete control in game 7, and brushed us aside, but a successful season considering I had given up on us getting anywhere about 10 times during the year. As a positve footnote, one of the early trades netted the 1st round pick overall in the upcoming Bantam draft.

10-12-2005, 03:42 PM	#120
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Dola. Any ETA on the new database update? I've been holding off starting a new career and installing the "NA Super Patch" until the most recent update is available. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-12-2005, 05:26 PM	#122
JeffR High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada	Out by the end of the month, hopefully, but I wouldn't be too upset if that slid back a little to give us a few more days to work on the database.

10-12-2005, 05:33 PM	#124
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	So is there ever going to be an FOFC EHM league? __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-12-2005, 05:35 PM	#125
JeffR High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada	Patch too. I think Riz and Graeme have made scattered mentions of what they're fixing on the SI boards, but I'm eyebrow-deep in database work right now so I haven't been keeping up with that.

10-12-2005, 06:07 PM	#126
Sweed College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	Ok, fedex just dropped off my copy of ehm and I am off until Monday Though I have a basic understanding of hockey there is much to learn especially on the contract, waiver rules, free agency, etc. etc. etc. Some I've figured out but one I haven't is on the player card, it says value asking under where it shows who drafted the player and has his rights. Could someone explaing what the value and asking is?

10-12-2005, 06:23 PM	#127
JeffR High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada	That's mainly there for the European leagues, where players are sold rather than traded. Approximate value he'd be worth in a sale, and the team's actual asking price.

10-14-2005, 07:15 PM	#129
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Well, I did my part. Looked up EHM at Gamestop.com, used their Check Store Availability, and it listed 2 stores here that had copies. Just picked it up.

11-04-2005, 08:47 PM	#130
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'm enjoying this game a lot. My suggestions for patchs/future versions 1. keyboard shortcuts - I would rather navigate this sort of game with my keyboard than my mouse 2. the ability to highlight a long list of players and add to the shortlist ... the way I scout the draft is, I send my scouts to look at the incoming draft class, then add guys to my shortlist, then send my scouts to look at the shortlist ... but it's too cumbersome a process right now. Putting the shortlist together is about 30 minutes of clicking. More to come, perhaps...

11-04-2005, 09:54 PM	#131
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	For those that have the patch downloaded... can you comment on the frequency of GM\Coach firing? I'm in the year 2011 with my Rangers dyanasty, and I'm estimating that 80% of GM's are still in place, and it's only within the last year or so that teams have been beginning to make Front Office & Coaching changes. When they do, NHL teams seem to be hiring alot of Euro guys... which isn't how it works in the real NHL. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

11-05-2005, 12:26 AM	#132
JeffR High School JV Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada	Looking at a couple of saves from tests on the upcoming patch, NHL GM turnover seems to be about three per year; real life is probably around 4, so it's close.

11-07-2005, 10:04 AM	#139
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Any idea on when the next patch/roster update will be out? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

11-07-2005, 11:14 AM	#143
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Yes, this is very good news indeed! __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

11-08-2005, 11:03 AM	#144
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	You would think game stores in ALL NHL cities would carry this game. But no. Not damn Buffalo. EB? no..Gamestop? nope..Target, Walmart, Compusa?..zilch. Called or visited all and pestered the employees with title and UPC .. Not a damn thing.. Funny thing is I was in Abilene,TX this past summer and saw both hockey and soccer games from SI in a gamestop. Guy told me he never sold a single copy of EHM . Abeline and not Buffalo..go figure....crazy distribution. Oh well, off my rant and time to think if I want to order from a online retailer.(not a big fan of letting my cc info traipse thru the phonelines though.)

11-08-2005, 12:41 PM	#145
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	2.1.2 Patch is out. http://community.sigames.com/groupee...5/m/2712088471 __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

11-08-2005, 01:16 PM	#146
scooter High School Varsity Join Date: May 2004 Location: Camano Island, WA	Thanks, I've been waiting for this for a while.

11-08-2005, 01:17 PM	#147
BuffaloHuskey Mascot Join Date: Aug 2005	A L - Don't you know you are in Buffalo, they can't do anything right there . Hell it has taken more than five years to come up with a design for the damn Peace Bridge and forget about the water front, that development will take 30 years. Although I still have Buffalo pride, they have got to get their shit together otherwise they will continue to lose the younger generations.

11-08-2005, 01:22 PM	#148
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Does the new patch include new data with updated rosters? I understand that I would have to start a new game to use the new data, but I didn't see any mention of new data in the changelog. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

11-08-2005, 01:31 PM	#150
Simms FOBL Commish Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Team Radii	Crosby starts on the Penguins, and combined with a few other unscientific spot-checks, it would appear that yes, the rosters have been updated. __________________ FOBL Commissioner 34 Productions Web Design

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