All-Time Football Draft: The Picks - Page 3

VPI97 · 01-18-2004, 05:42 PM

The run on QB's continued and my top two signal callers were snapped up (Unitas and Fouts). As a result, I considered holding off on a QB since only three teams needing a QB will draft before my next pick. So I looked at other positions and tried to come up with a name that would justify passing on a particular quarterback, but I really couldn't find anyone that would make as much of an impact as the man I will select with my second round pick.

John Elway, QB

- Holder of the record for most wins as a starting QB
- Winner of five AFC championships
- Two Super Bowl rings
- Nine time Pro-Bowler
- Second in history in passing yards, passing attempts, completions, and total offense
- 1987 NFL MVP
- Owner of 41 Fourth quarter game-saving drives

TLK · 01-18-2004, 05:45 PM

Was Fouts really that high on everybody's list..... I kind of chuckled when Coug picked him.... but maybe I'm missing something here....

Vince · 01-18-2004, 05:53 PM

Same here...I like Fouts, but Elway was higher on my list, as were 2 other QBs...

VPI97 · 01-18-2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

Was Fouts really that high on everybody's list..... I kind of chuckled when Coug picked him.... but maybe I'm missing something here....

Eh, I'm sure I'm part of a small minority, but I consider Dan Fouts to be the best pure passer in NFL history.

pskov · 01-18-2004, 06:51 PM

The Iron Curtain defence was the berdrock of the Steelers' 70's dynasty and this player was the foundation upon which that defence was built. He was Chick Noll's first pick as Steelers coach and his brutal, dominating style would set the tone for his teamates as they became the single greatest dynasty in NFL history. This guy was pretty mean...

Joe Greene, DT

Noble_Platypus · 01-18-2004, 06:54 PM

That was my next pick pskov

JAG · 01-18-2004, 07:08 PM

Alright, back to me. It pains me a bit to take this guy and have to put up with his shenanigans, but he's too much of a weapon to pass up. I select DB/KR/PR/WR Deion Sanders.

Why a CB: A great cover corner helps the whole defense out and gives you more options: blitzing, doubling another receiver, using safeties in run support, and so on.

Why Deion Sanders: We only get 12 choices. With one pick, I bolster special teams with one of the more dangerous returners in history and give the team a useful offensive specialist/decoy with his speed. And most importantly, he will shut down just about any wideout and is a threat to score on defense.

Noble Platypus, you are on the clock.

pskov · 01-18-2004, 07:11 PM

Top pick JAG, but I think I'll list him as just a CB for now.

BTW, I realise that I am seperating DE/DT but not OLB/ILB, should I or should all linebackers be grouped together? Or does it make any difference at all?

Chubby · 01-18-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pskov

The Iron Curtain defence was the berdrock of the Steelers' 70's dynasty and this player was the foundation upon which that defence was built. He was Chick Noll's first pick as Steelers coach and his brutal, dominating style would set the tone for his teamates as they became the single greatest dynasty in NFL history. This guy was pretty mean...

Joe Green, DT

at LEAST spell his name right

Joe GreenE

Noble_Platypus · 01-18-2004, 07:12 PM

Well, I already have the all time leading passer, so I think I will add the all time leading rusher:
Emmitt Smith.
I know there is only 1 ball I have pass happy Marino, but Smith also has 500 career receptions to go with his 17000+ yards rushing.

pskov · 01-18-2004, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

at LEAST spell his name right

Joe GreenE

Umm.....

Noble_Platypus · 01-18-2004, 07:14 PM

I think we should break it up, or at least draft a whole team. How much do we get out of this if someone drafts 8 QBs? It would change the strategy if you knew you had to field your team.Thoughts?

JAG · 01-18-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus

Well, I already have the all time leading passer, so I think I will add the all time leading rusher:
Emmitt Smith.
I know there is only 1 ball I have pass happy Marino, but Smith also has 50 carrer receptions to go with his 17000+ yards rushing.

Er, 50?

Noble_Platypus · 01-18-2004, 07:18 PM

Sorry, I meant 500

JAG · 01-18-2004, 07:23 PM

Sorry, as a devout Cowboys fan I couldn't let that one slide.

VPI97 · 01-19-2004, 11:59 AM

bizzump

albionmoonlight · 01-19-2004, 01:27 PM

I really like Chubby's team so far.

Also, FWIW, I think that y'all should stop at 12. While the idea of fielding a "whole team" sounds really neat, you will probably run out of steam once you are trying to find your second guard. With 12, you are all assured of having the steam to finish.

Chubby · 01-19-2004, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I really like Chubby's team so far.

Also, FWIW, I think that y'all should stop at 12. While the idea of fielding a "whole team" sounds really neat, you will probably run out of steam once you are trying to find your second guard. With 12, you are all assured of having the steam to finish.

Thanks!

Yeah I think that trying to find 5 OL would be a pain and take waaaaaay too long. Anywhere between 12-15 guys should be enough to get a solid "feel" for a team IMO.

Huckleberry · 01-19-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple

Any draft without Johnny U. in the first round is just plain wrong.

Wow. I thought for sure you were going to say Sammy Baugh.

HornedFrog Purple · 01-19-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Wow. I thought for sure you were going to say Sammy Baugh.

Thought long and hard about it, but that would be such a homer pick.

Slinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngin' Sammy Baugh!

maybe even Davey O' Brien

We could produce quarterbacks over a half century ago heh.

Chubby · 01-19-2004, 04:01 PM

who's up? mckerney? riiiiiiiiiight...

Huckleberry · 01-19-2004, 04:02 PM

Yep. Lilly is yours, too, of course. Personally, I think Bobby Layne was a better player than Baugh. Completely unbiased opinion.

pskov · 01-19-2004, 04:25 PM

In my opinion, the third best QB of all time is still out there (Montana and Unitas are 1 and 2) and it isn't Sammy.

Huckleberry · 01-19-2004, 04:28 PM

Your opinion is worthless because you called Montana the best ever QB.

pskov · 01-19-2004, 04:32 PM

Montana to any other QB: How many rings have you got?

Chubby · 01-19-2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pskov

Montana to any other QB: How many rings have you got?

then Steve Kerr is better than Charles Barkley no?

VPI97 · 01-19-2004, 04:39 PM

Otto Graham to Montana: Seven. You like apples? How 'bout them apples?

Huckleberry · 01-19-2004, 04:42 PM

Terry Bradshaw to Joe Montana: I guess I'm as good as you, then.

Bart Starr to Joe Montana: Just like Otto, I'm better than you.

judicial clerk · 01-19-2004, 04:59 PM

This thread is very interesting

Deacon Jones and Bob Lilly are great picks, although I am not sure if they ar the top two d-lineman of all time. I think if you ask Deacon, I think he might say that he was not even the best d-lineman on his own team. Don't let the flowers fool you.

Deion is a great pick. Maybe best ever at his position. Man I hate that guy.

pskov · 01-19-2004, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huckleberry

Terry Bradshaw to Joe Montana: I guess I'm as good as you, then.

Bart Starr to Joe Montana: Just like Otto, I'm better than you.

Starr and Otto got rings?

Bradshaw was competent, but the rings still count...

oykib · 01-19-2004, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judicial clerk

This thread is very interesting

Deacon Jones and Bob Lilly are great picks, although I am not sure if they ar the top two d-lineman of all time. I think if you ask Deacon, I think he might say that he was not even the best d-lineman on his own team. Don't let the flowers fool you.

Deion is a great pick. Maybe best ever at his position. Man I hate that guy.

From the quotes and interviews I've seen, I doubt DEacon would ever say anyone was better than he was.

TLK · 01-19-2004, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chubby

who's up? mckerney? riiiiiiiiiight...

riiiiiiiight.....

bump

Chubby · 01-20-2004, 09:45 AM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz bump

rkmsuf · 01-20-2004, 09:46 AM

what are the odds this gets through 12 rounds? 50-1?

mckerney · 01-20-2004, 10:47 AM

Randy White, DT

May be a little small by todays standards, but played off toughness and intensity, becoming the first nose tackle and prototype for all those who would follow.

Chubby · 01-20-2004, 10:49 AM

as long as everyone stays away from the 2 guys I am debating about for my next pick i'm happy

JAG · 01-20-2004, 12:09 PM

Those DT's sure are a hot commodity.

Chubby · 01-20-2004, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Those DT's sure are a hot commodity.

yes, everyone should continue taking DT's....

Comey · 01-20-2004, 12:30 PM

This pick is awfully tough. There's three guys I want to take here...I'll have to hope that they fall.

I think there's only three real shutdown corners in NFL history...guys who just redefined the position. So, I'll take the first to do that.

My pick is Night Train Lane, CB.

Chubby · 01-20-2004, 12:41 PM

TLK for 2

JAG · 01-20-2004, 12:50 PM

Nice pick Comey.

mckerney · 01-20-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comey

This pick is awfully tough. There's three guys I want to take here...I'll have to hope that they fall.

I think there's only three real shutdown corners in NFL history...guys who just redefined the position. So, I'll take the first to do that.

My pick is Night Train Lane, CB.

Considered him, but ultimately there were two guys I wanted more.

TLK · 01-20-2004, 01:00 PM

In a hurry so just names right now (actually have to do work today).....

2nd Round
LB- Jack Ham
3rd Round
WR- Don Hutson

mckerney · 01-20-2004, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

In a hurry so just names right now (actually have to do work today).....

2nd Round
LB- Jack Ham
3rd Round
WR- Don Hutson

You didn't take the player I'm looking to get 3rd round. Very wise of you...

JAG · 01-20-2004, 01:17 PM

Good, I didn't really want to take a WR 3rd round, but if Hutson was there, I doubt I could've passed him up (no pun intended).

Bearcat729 · 01-20-2004, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comey

This pick is awfully tough. There's three guys I want to take here...I'll have to hope that they fall.

I think there's only three real shutdown corners in NFL history...guys who just redefined the position. So, I'll take the first to do that.

My pick is Night Train Lane, CB.

He was the guy I was thinking about taking with my second pick

rkmsuf · 01-20-2004, 01:24 PM

Someone show some guts and take Marion Butts...

pskov · 01-20-2004, 01:33 PM

Hutson and Night Train are a excellent picks, both would have been impossible to pass on if they fell to me.

Comey, you're up again.

WSUCougar · 01-20-2004, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLionKing

2nd Round
LB- Jack Ham

Since you snickered somewhat at my Dan Fouts pick, I'll go ahead and snicker a bit at this selection. There are a host of other linebackers (well, maybe not a host, but perhaps a multitude) I'd have selected before taking this one.

Nice recovery with the Hutson pick, though.

JAG · 01-20-2004, 02:38 PM

Montana to Hutson...it has a certain ring to it. I was getting hopeful of having a Packer QB-WR tandem that spanned 50 or so years.

There have been a lot of good picks taken recently, I'm seeing a lot of guys I was hopeful of taking disappear. Still one main guy left I'd like to see fall to me.

01-18-2004, 05:42 PM	#101
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	The run on QB's continued and my top two signal callers were snapped up (Unitas and Fouts). As a result, I considered holding off on a QB since only three teams needing a QB will draft before my next pick. So I looked at other positions and tried to come up with a name that would justify passing on a particular quarterback, but I really couldn't find anyone that would make as much of an impact as the man I will select with my second round pick. John Elway, QB - Holder of the record for most wins as a starting QB - Winner of five AFC championships - Two Super Bowl rings - Nine time Pro-Bowler - Second in history in passing yards, passing attempts, completions, and total offense - 1987 NFL MVP - Owner of 41 Fourth quarter game-saving drives __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

01-18-2004, 05:53 PM	#103
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Same here...I like Fouts, but Elway was higher on my list, as were 2 other QBs... __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-18-2004, 06:51 PM	#105
pskov Mascot Join Date: Nov 2003	The Iron Curtain defence was the berdrock of the Steelers' 70's dynasty and this player was the foundation upon which that defence was built. He was Chick Noll's first pick as Steelers coach and his brutal, dominating style would set the tone for his teamates as they became the single greatest dynasty in NFL history. This guy was pretty mean... Joe Greene, DT Last edited by pskov : 01-18-2004 at 07:14 PM.

01-18-2004, 06:54 PM	#106
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	That was my next pick pskov __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

01-18-2004, 07:12 PM	#110
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	Well, I already have the all time leading passer, so I think I will add the all time leading rusher: Emmitt Smith. I know there is only 1 ball I have pass happy Marino, but Smith also has 500 career receptions to go with his 17000+ yards rushing. __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin' Last edited by Noble_Platypus : 01-18-2004 at 07:18 PM.

01-18-2004, 05:45 PM	#102
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Was Fouts really that high on everybody's list..... I kind of chuckled when Coug picked him.... but maybe I'm missing something here....

01-18-2004, 07:08 PM	#107
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Alright, back to me. It pains me a bit to take this guy and have to put up with his shenanigans, but he's too much of a weapon to pass up. I select DB/KR/PR/WR Deion Sanders. Why a CB: A great cover corner helps the whole defense out and gives you more options: blitzing, doubling another receiver, using safeties in run support, and so on. Why Deion Sanders: We only get 12 choices. With one pick, I bolster special teams with one of the more dangerous returners in history and give the team a useful offensive specialist/decoy with his speed. And most importantly, he will shut down just about any wideout and is a threat to score on defense. Noble Platypus, you are on the clock.

01-18-2004, 07:11 PM	#108
pskov Mascot Join Date: Nov 2003	Top pick JAG, but I think I'll list him as just a CB for now. BTW, I realise that I am seperating DE/DT but not OLB/ILB, should I or should all linebackers be grouped together? Or does it make any difference at all?

01-18-2004, 07:14 PM	#112
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	I think we should break it up, or at least draft a whole team. How much do we get out of this if someone drafts 8 QBs? It would change the strategy if you knew you had to field your team.Thoughts? __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

01-18-2004, 07:18 PM	#114
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	Sorry, I meant 500 __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

01-18-2004, 07:23 PM	#115
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Sorry, as a devout Cowboys fan I couldn't let that one slide.

01-19-2004, 11:59 AM	#116
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	bizzump __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

01-19-2004, 01:27 PM	#117
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I really like Chubby's team so far. Also, FWIW, I think that y'all should stop at 12. While the idea of fielding a "whole team" sounds really neat, you will probably run out of steam once you are trying to find your second guard. With 12, you are all assured of having the steam to finish.

01-19-2004, 04:01 PM	#121
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	who's up? mckerney? riiiiiiiiiight...

01-19-2004, 04:02 PM	#122
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Yep. Lilly is yours, too, of course. Personally, I think Bobby Layne was a better player than Baugh. Completely unbiased opinion. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings Last edited by Huckleberry : 01-19-2004 at 04:02 PM.

01-19-2004, 04:25 PM	#123
pskov Mascot Join Date: Nov 2003	In my opinion, the third best QB of all time is still out there (Montana and Unitas are 1 and 2) and it isn't Sammy.

01-19-2004, 04:28 PM	#124
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Your opinion is worthless because you called Montana the best ever QB. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

01-19-2004, 04:32 PM	#125
pskov Mascot Join Date: Nov 2003	Montana to any other QB: How many rings have you got?

01-19-2004, 04:39 PM	#127
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Otto Graham to Montana: Seven. You like apples? How 'bout them apples? __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

01-19-2004, 04:42 PM	#128
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	Terry Bradshaw to Joe Montana: I guess I'm as good as you, then. Bart Starr to Joe Montana: Just like Otto, I'm better than you. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

01-19-2004, 04:59 PM	#129
judicial clerk College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland, OR	This thread is very interesting Deacon Jones and Bob Lilly are great picks, although I am not sure if they ar the top two d-lineman of all time. I think if you ask Deacon, I think he might say that he was not even the best d-lineman on his own team. Don't let the flowers fool you. Deion is a great pick. Maybe best ever at his position. Man I hate that guy.

01-20-2004, 09:45 AM	#133
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	zzzzzzzzzzzzzz bump

01-20-2004, 09:46 AM	#134
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	what are the odds this gets through 12 rounds? 50-1? __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-20-2004, 10:47 AM	#135
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Randy White, DT May be a little small by todays standards, but played off toughness and intensity, becoming the first nose tackle and prototype for all those who would follow.

01-20-2004, 10:49 AM	#136
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	as long as everyone stays away from the 2 guys I am debating about for my next pick i'm happy

01-20-2004, 12:09 PM	#137
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Those DT's sure are a hot commodity.

01-20-2004, 12:30 PM	#139
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	This pick is awfully tough. There's three guys I want to take here...I'll have to hope that they fall. I think there's only three real shutdown corners in NFL history...guys who just redefined the position. So, I'll take the first to do that. My pick is Night Train Lane, CB. __________________

01-20-2004, 12:41 PM	#140
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	TLK for 2

01-20-2004, 12:50 PM	#141
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Nice pick Comey.

01-20-2004, 01:00 PM	#143
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	In a hurry so just names right now (actually have to do work today)..... 2nd Round LB- Jack Ham 3rd Round WR- Don Hutson

01-20-2004, 01:17 PM	#145
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Good, I didn't really want to take a WR 3rd round, but if Hutson was there, I doubt I could've passed him up (no pun intended).

01-20-2004, 01:24 PM	#147
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Someone show some guts and take Marion Butts... __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

01-20-2004, 01:33 PM	#148
pskov Mascot Join Date: Nov 2003	Hutson and Night Train are a excellent picks, both would have been impossible to pass on if they fell to me. Comey, you're up again. Last edited by pskov : 01-20-2004 at 01:34 PM. Reason: grrrr, damn grammar

01-20-2004, 02:38 PM	#150
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Montana to Hutson...it has a certain ring to it. I was getting hopeful of having a Packer QB-WR tandem that spanned 50 or so years. There have been a lot of good picks taken recently, I'm seeing a lot of guys I was hopeful of taking disappear. Still one main guy left I'd like to see fall to me.

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