2005 NFL Draft Thread - Page 3

cartman · 04-23-2005, 01:59 PM

ah, exiled to the kingdom of bannination. I always had the feeling MKH was one of HM's alter egos.

Crapshoot · 04-23-2005, 02:00 PM

Barron will be fine - shit, you don't have to love football to be good at it - and that's what the apparent problem is. I could see Philly trading up to get him or Khalid barnes.

Noop · 04-23-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Barron' stock has fallen as a quite a few teams think he's lazy.

Could be true.

Cuckoo · 04-23-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I think at least a couple of the the DE/OLB types the Cowboys were looking at are still going to be around for their #20 pick. DJ will be long gone by then.

I have to agree with a few people who aren't as enamored with Johnson as some others. Don't get me wrong; I think he'll be a good pro, a very good player. But I don't have a problem with the Cowboys not taking him.

My problem with the Cowboys is that DeMarcus Ware may in fact be a very good player, but I'm always hesitant about guys who play outstanding in small conferences. He hasn't played against the best competition, and combine scores typically aren't enough to sway me. I would've felt more comfortable with a Merriman pick. Hopefully, Ware will prove me wrong.

Scarecrow · 04-23-2005, 02:04 PM

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

KC might have to choose between Derrick Johnson & Thomas Davis....

(watch them take the TE)

Noop · 04-23-2005, 02:08 PM

Thomas Davis is alrigth.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-23-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM HAPPY BUT SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This pretty sums my reaction exactly.

Maple Leafs · 04-23-2005, 02:17 PM

Geez, enough of the "message for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense. He's a big boy, he'll be fine.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-23-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Where's all the Lion's fans today?

BTW - any chance Dallas selects Rodgers down at #20 if he's still there?

Right here. Just a bit quiet. Entertaining some folks today.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-23-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FF

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

It became official yesterday or the day before. The 49ers didn't match.

Honolulu_Blue · 04-23-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

And since I just got on.

I didn't think Mike Williams was God as Mel Kiper does, but in the situation he can be in in Detroit, he's going to thrive. Lions couldn't convert third downs and couldn't convert in the redzone.

Exactly. The Lions were pathetic in the red zone. Horrible. If C-Rog stays healthy, they'll have an amazing WR core. If Harrington can't get it done, Garcia will be in there in a second.

yabanci · 04-23-2005, 02:21 PM

arrghh, i think the Chiefs got a steal with DJ. I hate the chiefs.

moriarty · 04-23-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Geez, enough of the "message for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense. He's a big boy, he'll be fine.

Anyone in the 'Green Room' or whatever they call it slip to the 2nd round before. It'd be kinda funny.

Joe · 04-23-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Barron will be fine - shit, you don't have to love football to be good at it - and that's what the apparent problem is.

Ricky Williams?

FF · 04-23-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

It became official yesterday or the day before. The 49ers didn't match.

i had completely missed it but i see it now. can any 49er fans give any input on this guy and if he can play RT?

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 02:24 PM

Randy Mueller just said this in ESPN's draft cast,

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Randy Mueller: (3:21 PM ET ) Derrick Johnson is a great athlete. He looks like tarzan. He can go sideline to sideline and run like a deer. He struggles at the point of attack when taking people on. He's also not a great tackler. They will get a really good athlete who can play any of the three LB spots....consistency and toughness will be the areas to watch with this kid.

Uh oh, will Johnson play like Jane?

DeToxRox · 04-23-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FF

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

SF didn't match. We don't have a 7th now for the comp for him/

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:28 PM

Someone alert nfl security.. get pac man jones in for a drug test now :P

i swear he looked high... As for Derrick Johnson.. it was a pick kc needed to make

DeToxRox · 04-23-2005, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

Niners didn't match.

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:31 PM

Oh and.. instead of telling aaron rodgers stories about past draft people waiting... how about some analysis on what teams are looking at.. instead of 7 minutes of commercials and a 3 minute story then.. gasp.. hey they are picking.. who you think they are taking?

moriarty · 04-23-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

Oh and.. instead of telling aaron rodgers stories about past draft people waiting... how about some analysis on what teams are looking at.. instead of 7 minutes of commercials and a 3 minute story then.. gasp.. hey they are picking.. who you think they are taking?

Would you settle for Mel Kiper's Greatest Hits?

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

Would you settle for Mel Kiper's Greatest Hits?

I'd settle for them doing something like say... discussing who the current team up is looking at.. which they stopped doing at about pick 10

Suicane75 · 04-23-2005, 02:38 PM

Is Dan Cody the dude a bunch of people here were arguing over during the season? Any chance he falls to the Eagles?

TargetPractice6 · 04-23-2005, 02:44 PM

At this point in the draft do team really need all 15 minutes to decide? Does anybody ever have a pick ready to go when it is their turn and get up there in a couple minutes?

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 02:45 PM

It's not the picks, its the trade talk.

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:47 PM

I'm sure the pick is decided within the first 4-5 minutes.. the trade offers they wait up till 2-3 minutes left on

Maple Leafs · 04-23-2005, 02:48 PM

How long until the Browns trade up to pick Rodgers?

korme · 04-23-2005, 02:49 PM

pollack bitches!

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:49 PM

And Cincinnati takes another undersized end.. wee!

Cuckoo · 04-23-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Is Dan Cody the dude a bunch of people here were arguing over during the season? Any chance he falls to the Eagles?

Cody has slipped quite a bit lately due mostly to a mediocre performance at the pro-day as well as concerns over his bout with clinical depression a few years back. Also, there are questions about his size (he's a little thin).

I think he'll fall to the end of the 1st round - beginning of 2nd round, but whoever takes him will be getting a very good pass-rusher.

Tigercat · 04-23-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Interesting they think Brown is better then Barron.

Saints needed a RT, not a LT. Brown was the best RT in the draft. Barron is a LT prospect. The Saints had to trade up to get Brown because the Panthers were going to pick him ahead of the Saints. Always fun to get the best player at the biggest hole on the team and mess up a division rival at the same time.

BigJohn&TheLions · 04-23-2005, 02:50 PM

AM I the only one who really wants to see S.F. pick up Alex Smith from Stanford?

Maple Leafs · 04-23-2005, 02:53 PM

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.

haha.. What would be even more amusing is if he got to washington's other pick and they took Jason Campbell anyway

TazFTW · 04-23-2005, 03:01 PM

I think its time for Rodger to just go back to the hotel.

sovereignstar · 04-23-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuckoo

Cody has slipped quite a bit lately due mostly to a mediocre performance at the pro-day as well as concerns over his bout with clinical depression a few years back. Also, there are questions about his size (he's a little thin).

I think he'll fall to the end of the 1st round - beginning of 2nd round, but whoever takes him will be getting a very good pass-rusher.

Suicane won't want him then. He likes to make fun of football player with depression.

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 03:07 PM

hehe i had to ask about aaron rodgers on that espn draft chat :P

cthomer5000 · 04-23-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.

That would be personally amusing.

rexallllsc · 04-23-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

haha.. What would be even more amusing is if he got to washington's other pick and they took Jason Campbell anyway

That would be strange...it's weird how high Campbell's stock has risen. He was pretty average as a JR.

Swaggs · 04-23-2005, 03:11 PM

I'm getting excited with the possibility of Mark Clayton or Roddy White sliding down to Pittsburgh. I thought the Cowboys would take one of the two, for sure.

Suicane75 · 04-23-2005, 03:11 PM

What are they booing?

Ragone · 04-23-2005, 03:11 PM

haha espn's draft chat just got more amusing

Carter
Ricky Williams is gonna come back

Randy Mueller
Carter, I think you have been hanging out in the same tent with him.. at 209 pounds he's of no use to anyone

Joe · 04-23-2005, 03:12 PM

great, vikings took erasmus james. i give him 20 games before his leg falls off.

mckerney · 04-23-2005, 03:15 PM

I like the James pick, though I'm still not completely sold on him. A D-line with Udeze, Williams, and James with someone like Darion Scott at tackle should be good on passing downs.

Swaggs · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

Wow. Not the WR I expected off the board next.

korme · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

what the fuck! what a curveball! jones goes ahead of white and clayton!!

Cuckoo · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

No doubt about Dallas' tranformation to the 3-4 now. As an OU fan, I would've loved to see them take Clayton, but...

That said, I think Spears is a good pick. I feel much more comfortable with him actually than I do with Ware, but maybe that's because I've seen much more of Spears.

I would question now what'll happen with Greg Ellis and/or LaRoi Glover. Both are small in the down position in a 3-4. With Ferguson and Spears presumably manning two of the three spots, one of Ellis or Glover becomes either trade bait or a mere rotation guy.

hhiipp · 04-23-2005, 03:16 PM

MattJones4FirstRound

korme · 04-23-2005, 03:17 PM

proud day for MJ4H eh?

Swaggs · 04-23-2005, 03:17 PM

What does Matt Jones do as a rookie for the Jags? Any predictions?

I'm personally glad because I was worried the Steelers might take him.

04-23-2005, 01:59 PM	#101
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	ah, exiled to the kingdom of bannination. I always had the feeling MKH was one of HM's alter egos. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 04-23-2005 at 03:14 PM.

04-23-2005, 02:04 PM	#105
Scarecrow College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Flatlands of America	HOLY SHIT!!!!! KC might have to choose between Derrick Johnson & Thomas Davis.... (watch them take the TE) __________________ Post Count: Eleventy Billion - so deal with it!

04-23-2005, 02:08 PM	#106
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Thomas Davis is alrigth. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-23-2005, 02:17 PM	#108
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Geez, enough of the "message for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense. He's a big boy, he'll be fine. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

04-23-2005, 02:48 PM	#127
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	How long until the Browns trade up to pick Rodgers? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

04-23-2005, 02:00 PM	#102
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Barron will be fine - shit, you don't have to love football to be good at it - and that's what the apparent problem is. I could see Philly trading up to get him or Khalid barnes.

04-23-2005, 02:21 PM	#112
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	arrghh, i think the Chiefs got a steal with DJ. I hate the chiefs.

04-23-2005, 02:28 PM	#118
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Someone alert nfl security.. get pac man jones in for a drug test now :P i swear he looked high... As for Derrick Johnson.. it was a pick kc needed to make

04-23-2005, 02:31 PM	#120
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Oh and.. instead of telling aaron rodgers stories about past draft people waiting... how about some analysis on what teams are looking at.. instead of 7 minutes of commercials and a 3 minute story then.. gasp.. hey they are picking.. who you think they are taking?

04-23-2005, 02:38 PM	#123
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Is Dan Cody the dude a bunch of people here were arguing over during the season? Any chance he falls to the Eagles?

04-23-2005, 02:44 PM	#124
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	At this point in the draft do team really need all 15 minutes to decide? Does anybody ever have a pick ready to go when it is their turn and get up there in a couple minutes?

04-23-2005, 02:45 PM	#125
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	It's not the picks, its the trade talk.

04-23-2005, 02:47 PM	#126
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	I'm sure the pick is decided within the first 4-5 minutes.. the trade offers they wait up till 2-3 minutes left on

04-23-2005, 02:49 PM	#128
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	pollack bitches!

04-23-2005, 02:49 PM	#129
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	And Cincinnati takes another undersized end.. wee!

04-23-2005, 02:50 PM	#132
BigJohn&TheLions College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York	AM I the only one who really wants to see S.F. pick up Alex Smith from Stanford? __________________ In the immortal words of a great alcoholic, "Can't we all just get along?"

04-23-2005, 02:53 PM	#133
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

04-23-2005, 03:01 PM	#135
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	I think its time for Rodger to just go back to the hotel.

04-23-2005, 03:07 PM	#137
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	hehe i had to ask about aaron rodgers on that espn draft chat :P

04-23-2005, 03:11 PM	#140
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm getting excited with the possibility of Mark Clayton or Roddy White sliding down to Pittsburgh. I thought the Cowboys would take one of the two, for sure. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-23-2005, 03:11 PM	#141
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	What are they booing?

04-23-2005, 03:11 PM	#142
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	haha espn's draft chat just got more amusing Carter Ricky Williams is gonna come back Randy Mueller Carter, I think you have been hanging out in the same tent with him.. at 209 pounds he's of no use to anyone

04-23-2005, 03:12 PM	#143
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	great, vikings took erasmus james. i give him 20 games before his leg falls off.

04-23-2005, 03:15 PM	#144
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I like the James pick, though I'm still not completely sold on him. A D-line with Udeze, Williams, and James with someone like Darion Scott at tackle should be good on passing downs.

04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#145
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Wow. Not the WR I expected off the board next. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#146
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	what the fuck! what a curveball! jones goes ahead of white and clayton!!

04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#147
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	No doubt about Dallas' tranformation to the 3-4 now. As an OU fan, I would've loved to see them take Clayton, but... That said, I think Spears is a good pick. I feel much more comfortable with him actually than I do with Ware, but maybe that's because I've seen much more of Spears. I would question now what'll happen with Greg Ellis and/or LaRoi Glover. Both are small in the down position in a 3-4. With Ferguson and Spears presumably manning two of the three spots, one of Ellis or Glover becomes either trade bait or a mere rotation guy. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

04-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#148
hhiipp College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: OH	MattJones4FirstRound

04-23-2005, 03:17 PM	#149
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	proud day for MJ4H eh?

04-23-2005, 03:17 PM	#150
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What does Matt Jones do as a rookie for the Jags? Any predictions? I'm personally glad because I was worried the Steelers might take him. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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