2005 MLB Playoffs Thread - Page 3

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I know you all could care less with this game still going on, but the Angels announced Washburn won't be starting against the Yanks tonight because of a throat infection. Lackey will go on three days rest.

Screw that... Washburn doesn't need to talk

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Karlifornia · 10-09-2005, 05:33 PM

2 out, Jordan on 3rd

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Screw that... Washburn doesn't need to talk

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Yeah, it's not like he has to go up and lick the Yankees or something. Pansy

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:39 PM

Wait, the Braves are putting Devine on the mound? Why?

Easy Mac · 10-09-2005, 05:39 PM

All right, bobby puts in Home Run Devine!!!

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:43 PM

I'm shocked Devine is doing this good.

Recoil · 10-09-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm shocked Devine is doing this good.

I'm just shocked Bobby didn't bring him in with 2 or 3 inherited runners. That's usually when Devine is sent to the mound.

Easy Mac · 10-09-2005, 05:49 PM

It took 17 1/3 innings for an error... amazing.

And Brian McCann has left 10 men on base.

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 05:52 PM

This just feels like one of those Stanley Cup playoff games once it hits 3 OTs or longer- you just don't want it to end.

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 05:55 PM

Francouer swings and misses... bottom of 18th.

Young Drachma · 10-09-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

This just feels like one of those Stanley Cup playoff games once it hits 3 OTs or longer- you just don't want it to end.

SI

I know what you mean. There are few things better than good baseball when it gets late in the game. A true test of endurance and everything.

Young Drachma · 10-09-2005, 05:58 PM

I was going to make some sort of joke about how they need to just end baseball games with a homerun derby after 15 innings. How absurd is the shootouts in regular season hockey? I mean, seriously. Even football still has ties. Americans don't care about ties that much, that they won't watch hockey.

Longest postseason game in history.

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 06:00 PM

GONEEE!!!!! Astros WIN!

vtbub · 10-09-2005, 06:01 PM

*applauds*

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 06:01 PM

Burke wins it for the Stroes. Braves choke in the playoffs again.

Home Run Devine lives up to his nickname.

Great game... off to St. Louis!

Chief Rum · 10-09-2005, 06:03 PM

I know Clemens is Clemens, but why the hell is she asking The Rocket a question before she asks the guy who hit the game-winning homerun? Hell, even Roger found it odd--he pointed out Burke after answering her question.

Buccaneer · 10-09-2005, 06:07 PM

That made me cry for joy.

Now if the Angels can win, my joy will be complete today.

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I know Clemens is Clemens, but why the hell is she asking The Rocket a question before she asks the guy who hit the game-winning homerun? Hell, even Roger found it odd--he pointed out Burke after answering her question.

That's sports now. Hell, it would have been worse if this were on Fox- they wouldn't have left him alone and they'd still be interviewing him.

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2005, 06:10 PM

Classy move by Clemens there, making sure the kid got the TV time. Okay, that said ...

WTF was Cox thinking putting Devine out there?

ISiddiqui · 10-09-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

WTF was Cox thinking putting Devine out there?

It ain't like he distinguished himself during the season. He had one really good inning. Cox should have cut his losses there and gone to the next guy.

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 06:12 PM

Not much left in the pen at that point

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Recoil · 10-09-2005, 06:12 PM

Atleast another team won't be celebrating on Turner Field this year.

Whoever advanced to play St. Louis was gonna get beat, anyways. I'm just glad I won't have to watch this Braves team in another round of the playoffs. Absolutely disgusting.

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 06:15 PM

Devine, Foster, McBride, or Powell. Foster had a decent year so maybe him. Powell has pitched in these situations before but didn't pitch much this year. McBride- well, he's junk.

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2005, 06:20 PM

SI - McBride was still out there IIRC, as was Foster (although I wouldn't exactly have been chomping at the bit to see him).

But hell, I've been scratching my head as to how Devine even ended up on the post-season roster in the first place - (I'd have probably gone with Davies instead, or maybe even Anthony Lerew).

edit to add-- Powell wasn't available since he broke his arm back in August.

Cards4ever · 10-09-2005, 06:22 PM

I still think that Baseball needs to change it's playoff system, the best team should get the Wildcard and it should be 2-1-2. Game 1 should be interesting, the Cards have trouble against lefties and the Stro's have trouble on the road.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Devine, Foster, McBride, or Powell. Foster had a decent year so maybe him. Powell has pitched in these situations before but didn't pitch much this year. McBride- well, he's junk.

Granted, McBride ain't exactly stellar but his 7.71 ERA over the last 10 games was still better than Devine's. For the love of Pete, Devine had exactly FIVE freakin' innings in the majors all season AND he'd walked more guys than he struck out ... meanwhile McBride had a 3:1 K/BB ratio for the season & 5:1 over the last 10 outings.

(see my note in the other post about Powell being on the DL)

sterlingice · 10-09-2005, 06:26 PM

All this really doesn't screw up the Astros rotation like I thought it would. The Astros don't play again until Wednesday(Pettite)/Thurs(Oswalt)/Sat (Clemens) and Pettite pitched Thursday, Oswalt- Saturday, and Clemens- Sunday so they all get good rest.

SI

miami_fan · 10-09-2005, 07:28 PM

I will spend most of my time watching the football game but Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim PLEASE beat the shit out of the Yankees. Thanks

Rizon · 10-09-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I know Clemens is Clemens, but why the hell is she asking The Rocket a question before she asks the guy who hit the game-winning homerun? Hell, even Roger found it odd--he pointed out Burke after answering her question.

I need "her" name. She looked like spanking material.

Chief Rum · 10-09-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

I need "her" name. She looked like spanking material.

Erin Andrews, and, yes, stupid interview or no, she's quite the hottie.

sterlingice · 10-10-2005, 10:18 PM

What brain child scheduled the playoffs as they were. First, they don't want to put the ALDS up against football (but who cares about the NLDS) so they force the teams to play in New York yesterday night and Anaheim tonight rather than have an afternoon getaway day. Rather than have the NLCS start tomorrow with teams having a day rest, one of these teams then gets to go to Chicago tomorrow night and start the next series.

SI

kingfc22 · 10-10-2005, 10:39 PM

Take your $200M team back to NY George.

ISiddiqui · 10-10-2005, 10:45 PM

Theeee Yankees Lose! Theeeee Yankees Lose!

sterlingice · 10-10-2005, 10:46 PM

As much as I like to see the Yankees lose, this doesn't seem like the day to do that. I know that feeling of having my team lose in the playoffs and the season over all too well and that's just no fun at all. Celebrate the Angels moving on but no need to rub salt in the wound today- that's what the other 364 days are for.

SI

JonInMiddleGA · 10-10-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Theeee Yankees Lose! Theeeee Yankees Lose!

Damn, you beat me to it.

ISiddiqui · 10-10-2005, 10:52 PM

If you've dealt with Yankee fans after your season has ended, then you wouldn't say such things

. I think a good deal of Yankee hate comes also from those fans who think its owed to them, who, after winning the World Series think it's cool to call random numbers in the Boston phone book to gloat, no matter the time of night when it happens (yes, I've known people who did that).

Jon · 10-10-2005, 11:11 PM

Not all Yankee fans are bad. I'm one, and I am not one of those who think that a World Series title is owed. Be careful not to associate such behavior to all fans. I mean, calling random people in the Boston phone book. Come on, at least pick one letter so you can maximize coverage.

Seriously, I think we are in store for two good league championship series. And, at least I will have former Yankees to cheer on, especially Andy Pettite, since the Yankees cheated him. (BTW, most Yankee fans hate George Steinbrenner).

Picks anyone:

Astros in 6.

White Sox in 5.

Ksyrup · 10-10-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

As much as I like to see the Yankees lose, this doesn't seem like the day to do that. I know that feeling of having my team lose in the playoffs and the season over all too well and that's just no fun at all. Celebrate the Angels moving on but no need to rub salt in the wound today- that's what the other 364 days are for.

SI

Screw that. This isn't about Yankees fans for me, this is simply about the Yankees organization and the city in which they play. I hope they fail at every sports-related event they undertake.

ISiddiqui · 10-10-2005, 11:21 PM

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Be careful not to associate such behavior to all fans.

As I said, "those fans". Though I notice there are more Yankee fans that tend to do it, mostly, because I believe they've been spoiled. The 80s gave them some humility, and that was reflected in the late 90s team (which was VERY hard to dislike). After the Subway Series though, it's been very easy to root for this team to lose and for their fans to cry in their beer... sorry

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Chief Rum · 10-10-2005, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon

Not all Yankee fans are bad. I'm one, and I am not one of those who think that a World Series title is owed. Be careful not to associate such behavior to all fans. I mean, calling random people in the Boston phone book. Come on, at least pick one letter so you can maximize coverage.

Seriously, I think we are in store for two good league championship series. And, at least I will have former Yankees to cheer on, especially Andy Pettite, since the Yankees cheated him. (BTW, most Yankee fans hate George Steinbrenner).

Picks anyone:

Astros in 6.

White Sox in 5.

Cardinals in 5.

White Sox in 7.

I would pick my Angels, but I think this long series, and Colon's iffy status makes our rotation at lot more hit-and-miss early on, as we will probably have to go with Byrd on short rest and maybe a still sick Washburn in our first series. If Colon is healthy he can then go, followed by Lackey. But having those two pitch in the middle instead of the beginning and end of the series is not good for us.

kingfc22 · 10-10-2005, 11:24 PM

I'll be rooting for Houston and I'll be enjoying the CHI/ANA series.

Young Drachma · 10-11-2005, 12:41 AM

The White Sox are hungry, it's their series.

MikeVic · 10-11-2005, 12:42 AM

I'd like to see Astros and White Sox in the World Series.

MizzouRah · 10-11-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Cardinals in 5.

White Sox in 7.

I would pick my Angels, but I think this long series, and Colon's iffy status makes our rotation at lot more hit-and-miss early on, as we will probably have to go with Byrd on short rest and maybe a still sick Washburn in our first series. If Colon is healthy he can then go, followed by Lackey. But having those two pitch in the middle instead of the beginning and end of the series is not good for us.

I like that first prediction.

Jon · 10-11-2005, 10:30 AM

Although I am a Yankee fan, I have to admit that a "White Sox-Cardinals" World Series has a nice sound to it. You have two teams with a long history, a streak to be broken, and redemption by the Cardinals.
It just sounds good (much better than Angels-Cardinals, Angels-Astros, or Astros-Angels).

JasonC23 · 10-11-2005, 10:30 AM

White Sox in 6, Cardinals in 6.

But honestly, even though I'm a White Sox fan and my wife is a Cardinals fan, any combination of the teams remaining should make for a fun World Series.

EDIT: So I guess Jon and I disagree, then.

And Jon, how come the White Sox don't get to play the Astros?

JeeberD · 10-11-2005, 10:54 AM

MizzouRah · 10-11-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sterlingice · 10-11-2005, 11:16 AM

Funny, that's a different finger than I see raised by most Cardinals fans when they're in KC

SI

JeeberD · 10-11-2005, 11:31 AM

10-09-2005, 05:33 PM	#102
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	2 out, Jordan on 3rd __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

10-09-2005, 05:39 PM	#104
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wait, the Braves are putting Devine on the mound? Why? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-09-2005, 05:43 PM	#106
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I'm shocked Devine is doing this good. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-09-2005, 05:52 PM	#109
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This just feels like one of those Stanley Cup playoff games once it hits 3 OTs or longer- you just don't want it to end. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-09-2005, 05:55 PM	#110
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Francouer swings and misses... bottom of 18th. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-09-2005, 05:39 PM	#105
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	All right, bobby puts in Home Run Devine!!!

10-09-2005, 05:49 PM	#108
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	It took 17 1/3 innings for an error... amazing. And Brian McCann has left 10 men on base.

10-09-2005, 05:58 PM	#112
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I was going to make some sort of joke about how they need to just end baseball games with a homerun derby after 15 innings. How absurd is the shootouts in regular season hockey? I mean, seriously. Even football still has ties. Americans don't care about ties that much, that they won't watch hockey. Longest postseason game in history. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods Last edited by Young Drachma : 10-09-2005 at 05:59 PM.

10-09-2005, 06:00 PM	#113
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	GONEEE!!!!! Astros WIN! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-09-2005, 06:01 PM	#114
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	applauds __________________

10-09-2005, 06:01 PM	#115
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Burke wins it for the Stroes. Braves choke in the playoffs again. Home Run Devine lives up to his nickname. Great game... off to St. Louis! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-09-2005, 06:03 PM	#116
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I know Clemens is Clemens, but why the hell is she asking The Rocket a question before she asks the guy who hit the game-winning homerun? Hell, even Roger found it odd--he pointed out Burke after answering her question. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 10-09-2005 at 06:04 PM.

10-09-2005, 06:07 PM	#117
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	That made me cry for joy. Now if the Angels can win, my joy will be complete today.

10-09-2005, 06:10 PM	#119
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Classy move by Clemens there, making sure the kid got the TV time. Okay, that said ... WTF was Cox thinking putting Devine out there? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-09-2005, 06:12 PM	#121
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Not much left in the pen at that point SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-09-2005, 06:12 PM	#122
Recoil High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GA	Atleast another team won't be celebrating on Turner Field this year. Whoever advanced to play St. Louis was gonna get beat, anyways. I'm just glad I won't have to watch this Braves team in another round of the playoffs. Absolutely disgusting.

10-09-2005, 06:15 PM	#123
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Devine, Foster, McBride, or Powell. Foster had a decent year so maybe him. Powell has pitched in these situations before but didn't pitch much this year. McBride- well, he's junk. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-09-2005, 06:20 PM	#124
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	SI - McBride was still out there IIRC, as was Foster (although I wouldn't exactly have been chomping at the bit to see him). But hell, I've been scratching my head as to how Devine even ended up on the post-season roster in the first place - (I'd have probably gone with Davies instead, or maybe even Anthony Lerew). edit to add-- Powell wasn't available since he broke his arm back in August. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis Last edited by JonInMiddleGA : 10-09-2005 at 06:21 PM.

10-09-2005, 06:22 PM	#125
Cards4ever College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Eagan, MN	I still think that Baseball needs to change it's playoff system, the best team should get the Wildcard and it should be 2-1-2. Game 1 should be interesting, the Cards have trouble against lefties and the Stro's have trouble on the road. __________________ Cardinal Baseball & Gopher Hockey, what else do you need?

10-09-2005, 06:26 PM	#127
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	All this really doesn't screw up the Astros rotation like I thought it would. The Astros don't play again until Wednesday(Pettite)/Thurs(Oswalt)/Sat (Clemens) and Pettite pitched Thursday, Oswalt- Saturday, and Clemens- Sunday so they all get good rest. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-09-2005, 07:28 PM	#128
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I will spend most of my time watching the football game but Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim PLEASE beat the shit out of the Yankees. Thanks

10-10-2005, 10:18 PM	#131
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	What brain child scheduled the playoffs as they were. First, they don't want to put the ALDS up against football (but who cares about the NLDS) so they force the teams to play in New York yesterday night and Anaheim tonight rather than have an afternoon getaway day. Rather than have the NLCS start tomorrow with teams having a day rest, one of these teams then gets to go to Chicago tomorrow night and start the next series. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-10-2005, 10:39 PM	#132
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Take your $200M team back to NY George. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-10-2005, 10:45 PM	#133
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Theeee Yankees Lose! Theeeee Yankees Lose! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-10-2005, 10:46 PM	#134
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	As much as I like to see the Yankees lose, this doesn't seem like the day to do that. I know that feeling of having my team lose in the playoffs and the season over all too well and that's just no fun at all. Celebrate the Angels moving on but no need to rub salt in the wound today- that's what the other 364 days are for. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 10-10-2005 at 10:47 PM.

10-10-2005, 10:52 PM	#136
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	If you've dealt with Yankee fans after your season has ended, then you wouldn't say such things . I think a good deal of Yankee hate comes also from those fans who think its owed to them, who, after winning the World Series think it's cool to call random numbers in the Boston phone book to gloat, no matter the time of night when it happens (yes, I've known people who did that). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-10-2005, 11:11 PM	#137
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	Not all Yankee fans are bad. I'm one, and I am not one of those who think that a World Series title is owed. Be careful not to associate such behavior to all fans. I mean, calling random people in the Boston phone book. Come on, at least pick one letter so you can maximize coverage. Seriously, I think we are in store for two good league championship series. And, at least I will have former Yankees to cheer on, especially Andy Pettite, since the Yankees cheated him. (BTW, most Yankee fans hate George Steinbrenner). Picks anyone: Astros in 6. White Sox in 5.

10-10-2005, 11:24 PM	#141
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I'll be rooting for Houston and I'll be enjoying the CHI/ANA series. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-11-2005, 12:41 AM	#142
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	The White Sox are hungry, it's their series. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

10-11-2005, 12:42 AM	#143
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I'd like to see Astros and White Sox in the World Series.

10-11-2005, 10:30 AM	#145
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	Although I am a Yankee fan, I have to admit that a "White Sox-Cardinals" World Series has a nice sound to it. You have two teams with a long history, a streak to be broken, and redemption by the Cardinals. It just sounds good (much better than Angels-Cardinals, Angels-Astros, or Astros-Angels).

10-11-2005, 10:30 AM	#146
JasonC23 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Huntley, IL, USA	White Sox in 6, Cardinals in 6. But honestly, even though I'm a White Sox fan and my wife is a Cardinals fan, any combination of the teams remaining should make for a fun World Series. EDIT: So I guess Jon and I disagree, then. And Jon, how come the White Sox don't get to play the Astros? __________________ "I'm A god. I'm not THE God...I don't think." Bill Murray, Groundhog Day Last edited by JasonC23 : 10-11-2005 at 10:31 AM.

10-11-2005, 10:54 AM	#147
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	__________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

10-11-2005, 11:16 AM	#149
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Funny, that's a different finger than I see raised by most Cardinals fans when they're in KC SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-11-2005, 11:31 AM	#150
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	__________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO