Madden 09 - The Hype Machine kicks in - Page 3

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-13-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Time for me to un-hype it:

Apparently, Gamespot was wrong when they reported Madden will have in-game saves

I heard that in-game saves will be a new feature in Madden 2010, so no worries.

Surtt · 05-13-2008, 08:58 AM

I just ordered Madden 08 for $9.99.
I wasn't going to get it but, i guess it's the last PC version.....

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-19-2008, 01:28 PM

Another Madden Monday......another lousy idea.

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Do Over! Madden Mondays Week 6: EA SPORTS REWIND
May 19, 2008 at 11:11am

Do over! If only life imitated EA SPORTS REWIND.

We all have moments we'd like to do over in life. If we had a nickel for every time someone around here said, "I wish I didn't drink that whole bottle of pancake syrup," or I wish I had known that 'beachball' was actually a Portuguese Man-of-War jellyfish," we'd be living on our own private island by now.

Even more so in the sports world, we often hear competitors (both real and virtual) saying, "I wish I could have that pitch back," or "I never should have thrown that ball." Well, we won’t hear it as often in Madden NFL 09, with the all-new EA SPORTS REWIND, which will allow gamers to literally put a play in reverse and replay a down. Think of it as a Madden mulligan. Not unlike a super power, REWIND can be used for both good or evil. (Think Mike Shanahan and his pre-snap field goal timeouts.) For players looking to improve their games, this is a fantastic way to immediately learn from your mistakes without having to wait until the situation presents itself again, like in most sports games. Just click the REWIND button when a play ends, and watch your players reverse track back to the line of scrimmage.

However, REWIND can also lead to a few broken friendships. For example, suppose your best buddy has been talking trash for weeks about how he owns you. So you say, "Ok, tough guy. I’ll take 3 REWINDS, and then let’s just see how dominant you are." Five minutes later you’re laughing maliciously as you REWIND his kick-off return for a TD. Needless to say, you probably won’t be going to Sizzler together the next day.

Here are some important details regarding EA SPORTS REWIND in Madden NFL 09: Before the game begins, each player may select 0, 1, 3, 5, or unlimited REWINDS to be used during the course of the game. Rewinds may be be used on any play: Offense, Defense, & Special Teams. They're not available during online games. Madden NFL 09 hits the streets August 12th, including the historic 20th Anniversary Collector’s Edition. So click here or head to your local GameStop to reserve your copy. And remember, with great power comes great responsibility.

Eaglesfan27 · 05-19-2008, 01:30 PM

I knew you'd be posting to blast this MBBF.

I agree with you, it is a lousy feature.. except that it might get my wife to play against me if I spot her 5 rewinds. Last time she tried was 4 years ago, and she got frustrated after 1 game despite me trying to keep it competitive.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-19-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I knew you'd be posting to blast this MBBF.

I agree with you, it is a lousy feature.. except that it might get my wife to play against me if I spot her 5 rewinds. Last time she tried was 4 years ago, and she got frustrated after 1 game despite me trying to keep it competitive.

It's just a terrible shame to see just how out of touch the people who are making the development decisions at EA really are. I don't even totally blame the developers at this point. They likely know that the game needs a fundamental overhaul, but the execs and PR people at EA would rather push forward with the gimmicks like this. It's amazing that this franchise is finding ways to get worse.

Kodos · 05-19-2008, 01:40 PM

Sounds like an incredibly dumb feature. That's part of the allure of competition. You have your chances to win. If you hit 'em, great. If you miss 'em, you lose. Who wants to make a game-changing play and then have their opponent rewind it?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-19-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Sounds like an incredibly dumb feature. That's part of the allure of competition. You have your chances to win. If you hit 'em, great. If you miss 'em, you lose.

You can draw up a scenario quite easily to see just how brutal it really could be. Let's say I'm ahead of Kodos by 6 points with :02 on the clock. Kodos is on my 2 yard line. I've saved up all three of my rewinds for the game (assuming we each received 3 before the game). Kodos would have to score a touchdown on 4 straight plays in order to win at that point. That's just an INCREDIBLY terrible feature.

Icy · 05-19-2008, 01:43 PM

It¡'s pretty clear that us hardcore simmers are like dinosaurs, forced to disappear.

Now, thinking on i again, i might even use it to favor the CPU and rewind every time i pick and int for TD, but 5 rewinds might not be enough...

RainMaker · 05-19-2008, 01:47 PM

That is the dumbest feature I've heard about in a long time.

Kodos · 05-19-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy

It¡'s pretty clear that us hardcore simmers are like dinosaurs, forced to disappear.

Now, thinking on i again, i might even use it to favor the CPU and rewind every time i pick and int for TD, but 5 rewinds might not be enough...

Sadly, that really could be a game-saving feature. You could roll a 6-side dice, and if it comes up 1, you get to keep the interception. Otherwise, you have to rewind. Might be the only way to get a realistic amount of interceptions.

cartman · 05-19-2008, 02:17 PM

But if it helps sell more PS3s, it will be the greatest feature in the history of ever.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-19-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

But if it helps sell more PS3s, it will be the greatest feature in the history of ever.

I'm with Stupid.

Groundhog · 05-19-2008, 06:15 PM

Further proof of exactly how far outside the target audience I am...

thesloppy · 05-19-2008, 06:46 PM

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Five minutes later you’re laughing maliciously as you REWIND his kick-off return for a TD. Needless to say, you probably won’t be going to Sizzler together the next day.

Seiously, you'd have to be a developer to read that sentence and not get a chill down your spine.

To a great degree ANY multi-player sports title, hell ANY multi-player video game, spends a great deal of effort constricting players to keep them on even 'moral footing' for lack of a better term...that effort is necessary because it's simple human nature to try and take the advantages offered to you, and it's also basic human nature that unfortunately, having someone take advantage of you != fun (it's beside the point but interesting to note that conversely, taking advantage of the computer DOES equal, or at least come closer to, fun!)

Most of the lifespan of the Madden franchise has been spent trying to remove those advantages, so we're all competing in the game itself, not who can best take advantage of it's quirks. Hell, that's the exact reason they had to add 99% of the various rules to REAL sports.

Anybody who's been the victim of repeated cheese-plays, or had an opponent abandon a game and crush a near victory, AKA anybody-who-has-played-Madden-versus-another-person-in-the-last-ten-years,
knows that's a horrible design decision, that belies exactly how far removed EA is from the people who actually play their game. Even if it works completely flawlessly, you have to ask if introducing the 'retry' into the culture of sports gaming ruins the whole concept, as over-stated as that may sound. If you want to 'retry', play another game.

Basically this stinks as a lazy way for the Madden to gloss over their issues. "Sure there's just as many ACTUAL turnovers during gameplay....but with the 'replay' there will only be half as many in the box score!". FIXED!

Arctic Blast · 05-19-2008, 06:50 PM

I bought in to the hype and glowing reviews LAST year and picked it up for 360...what an overhyped piece of garbage. Madden 08 was just an absolute mess. And I have still seen no explanation for how the PS3/360 versions have FEWER options and WORSE play than the Xbox and PS2 versions had 5 YEARS AGO!

At some point, I'd love to see EA take this series away from, Tiburon, who from what I've seen, have added nothing but half baked promises and half finished 'features', while not fixing any of the major gameplay issues that have killed the series. Give it to anothyer studio, and see what they can do with it. Salvage SOMETHING!

Ugh.

sabotai · 05-19-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Sadly, that really could be a game-saving feature. You could roll a 6-side dice, and if it comes up 1, you get to keep the interception. Otherwise, you have to rewind. Might be the only way to get a realistic amount of interceptions.

NO! Do NOT start giving me crazy ideas on how I can avoid all the things that will be wrong with this game! I do not need any excuses to cave again!

thesloppy · 05-19-2008, 06:56 PM

I wonder if I can retry my mascot celebration?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 05-30-2008, 09:04 AM

Here's a cheap way to get the new Madden game. Sign up for a credit card with Bank of America and spend at least $200. If you keep the card open for 90 days, you get Madden 09 for free.

hxxps://wwwa.applyonlinenow.com/us/nfl-facmfu/index.html

Anthony · 05-30-2008, 09:28 AM

set rewinds to zero

crisis solved.

any other problems you want me to fix?

Eaglesfan27 · 06-03-2008, 05:04 PM

Russell, a EA community rep, has a large thread over on OS that details (with pictures for proof) the new franchise sim engine stats. I'm just looking now, but they look great. I think the new improved franchise line may actually be true:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-blowout.html

A few of the highlights from looking at the pics:

Only 2 QB's with over 100 rating (Romo and Rivers), only 10 more between 90-100. Highest yardage is Peyton with 4312 yards. Interceptions seem much more realistic in the sim engine, perhaps even a bit high. Peyton had 18, McNabb and Garcia with 23. A fair number with high teens to low 20' including Tavaris Jackson, Alex Smith, Derek Anderson, and Peyton. Rivers was lowest with 8. Still a few odd stats such as Romo completing 74% (no other QB had higher than 69%) but it looks MUCH better than last year.

- No running backs even close to 2000 yards. Peterson led all backs with 1650 on 262 carries. Next highest total was LT with 1450 yards on 245 carries. The highest number of carries was 306 and it looks like backup HB's are actually getting carries.

- Top receiver has 102 catches for 1226 yards. Top yardage was 1253 on 86 catches. Some people have commented that receivers YPC are low, but they don't look that bad to me. Most are around 11-13 YPC.

- Leading tackler is Paris Lenon with 120, Farrior was 2nd with 118. 14 sacks led the league.

- 6 interceptions led the league, and guys had 5 which means the double interception bug is fixed.

He has a bunch of screenshots, including team stats as well which look good. Assuming this is all in the final copy, sim engine looks MUCH better than previous years.

DeToxRox · 06-03-2008, 05:21 PM

Paris Lenon lead the league in tackles?

Sounds broke to me.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-03-2008, 05:24 PM

Heh. I knew a Lions' fan would say that

That did raise an eyebrow, but overall I'm excited about the improvement represented by these screenshots. I don't need absolute realism from Madden's sim engine, just something in the ballpark

DeToxRox · 06-03-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Heh. I knew a Lions' fan would say that

That did raise an eyebrow, but overall I'm excited about the improvement represented by these screenshots. I don't need absolute realism from Madden's sim engine, just something in the ballpark

The stats do look good though. I haven't bought a new Madden since 05 but I just may very well pull the trigger this year. We'll see.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-05-2008, 10:57 AM

One of the main developers has been on Operation Sports posting and interacting with the community the last week or two. They have made some significant improvements based on community feedback even during that short time period including the latest which is strongly tweaking the deep ball percentages so the AI will actually throw long now. I may get disappointed, but they reportedly have addressed every one of the things that I disliked about Madden last year:

- The fumbles are no longer an issue. If you use the cover up button, there is no chance your player will fumble (but he will run slower and won't be able to evade tackles.)

- AI defenders no longer pick off unrealistic passes.

- The pass rush and the DL won't get pancaked anywhere close to the same frequency as past versions.

- Franchise stats are within the realm of believability.

- Stupid sound effects such as the booming when you throw deep are gone.

- The lack of any deep passing game from the AI.

- Speed and other ratings have been changed from a linear relationship to a curved, semi-exponential relationship. Therefore, guys with 95 speed will feel substantially different than 90, etc.

Also, the producer says they are still working on trying to get accelerated clock to work for this version.

So I've been fully seduced by the hype train of Madden again this year and will be purchasing it again as it seems like this year could be a great version.

Groundhog · 06-05-2008, 09:24 PM

Damn it, why does it all have to sound so awesome.

Kodos · 06-05-2008, 10:40 PM

IT'S A TRAP!

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-06-2008, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

So I've been fully seduced by the hype train of Madden again this year and will be purchasing it again as it seems like this year could be a great version.

LOL. Peter Moore thanks you.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-06-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Damn it, why does it all have to sound so awesome.

Because if they told you it's likely to suck as in previous years, you wouldn't plop down your money to get the game right away before the negative feedback begins to hit the internet.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-06-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Because if they told you it's likely to suck as in previous years, you wouldn't plop down your money to get the game right away before the negative feedback begins to hit the internet.

Or they have actually improved the game and this game will be a fun game that will redeem the series. Since you haven't played it, hard for you to know.

Raiders Army · 06-06-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

- Stupid sound effects such as the booming when you throw deep are gone.

I kinda liked that. It meant the guy at the cannon was paying attention to the game. I also liked it when it boomed and the receiver dropped the ball.

Nice that they fixed the interception bug after two fookin' years.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-06-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Or they have actually improved the game and this game will be a fun game that will redeem the series. Since you haven't played it, hard for you to know.

Ah, there you are incorrect. I've played the game each and every year. I just don't pay for it, not even a rental. And if you've seriously bought into the hype and think the stars will suddenly align this year, you're likely in for a rude awakening given the precedent set by this series, but I'll hope for the best.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-06-2008, 08:03 AM

I meant that you haven't played 09

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-06-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I meant that you haven't played 09

You can call me Ms. Cleo.

gstelmack · 06-06-2008, 08:36 AM

So, do we get in-game save back?

Kodos · 06-06-2008, 09:19 AM

I believe the answer to that is no.

gstelmack · 06-06-2008, 10:46 AM

I figured not, but hey they are going to REALLY fix the defensive back AI this time, so I figured I'd check...

MizzouRah · 06-06-2008, 01:25 PM

please stop hyping the game EF

MizzouRah · 06-06-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Ah, there you are incorrect. I've played the game each and every year. I just don't pay for it, not even a rental. And if you've seriously bought into the hype and think the stars will suddenly align this year, you're likely in for a rude awakening given the precedent set by this series, but I'll hope for the best.

go watch some MGS cutscenes

What's wrong with getting excited? If it sucks, so be it.. but at least they are making themselves present online.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-06-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

please stop hyping the game EF

My bad. It is all my fault if you buy it and it disappoints

MizzouRah · 06-06-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

My bad. It is all my fault if you buy it and it disappoints

At least my wife thinks that.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-06-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

At least my wife thinks that.

I don't think she was referring to the game when discussing her disappointment...........

MizzouRah · 06-06-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I don't think she was referring to the game when discussing her disappointment...........

I never disappoint in that department.

RainMaker · 06-07-2008, 04:33 AM

Holy crap! Have you heard Tom Hammond in the game? That's embarassing. I seriously can't believe they are actually going to put that announcing in the game. The radio guy was much better than that.

MizzouRah · 06-10-2008, 07:27 PM

While I was pre-ordering Civ Rev.. I gave in and also pre-ordered the Madden 09 collector's edition. Damn I feel dirty!

The main reason was to get HC 09 earlier than its release. I'm sure I'll

for this.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-26-2008, 06:58 AM

Just when you think it couldn't get worse. EA shortens Madden's already-short development lifecycle by announcing that Madden 09 has gone gold 6 weeks before the release date. Uhhhh, I'm sure all of those nagging issues got addressed.........

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/884/884259p1.html

CraigSca · 06-26-2008, 07:20 AM

It's gold, but it still has to go through the 4-5 week certification process by Sony and Microsoft, so I think the term "gold" is a little premature here.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-26-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

It's gold, but it still has to go through the 4-5 week certification process by Sony and Microsoft, so I think the term "gold" is a little premature here.

Not really. The certification process doesn't address gameplay/AI issues. It's only designed for quality control and to catch any game-crashing bugs. They should have no problems passing through that.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-26-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Not really. The certification process doesn't address gameplay/AI issues. It's only designed for quality control and to catch any game-crashing bugs. They should have no problems passing through that.

It's still a 4 to 6 week process. Several developers on OS have said so, not just EA. It's not like EA just wrapped up their work on the game early for no reason, most games just choose not to announce Gold status until they have been certified by MS/Sony and are actually starting to produce disks.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-26-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

It's still a 4 to 6 week process. Several developers on OS have said so, not just EA. It's not like EA just wrapped up their work on the game early for no reason, most games just choose not to announce Gold status until they have been certified by MS/Sony and are actually starting to produce disks.

I'll defer to you. If anything, it's a case of EA trying to start the hype wagon that much sooner to make sure that discs are sold regardless of how good/bad the game is this year.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-26-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'll defer to you. If anything, it's a case of EA trying to start the hype wagon that much sooner to make sure that discs are sold regardless of how good/bad the game is this year.

Absolutely a PR move, and a bad one because it creates the impression for some people that they wrapped up early for no reason.

05-13-2008, 08:58 AM	#102
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I just ordered Madden 08 for $9.99. I wasn't going to get it but, i guess it's the last PC version..... __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

05-19-2008, 01:30 PM	#104
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I knew you'd be posting to blast this MBBF. I agree with you, it is a lousy feature.. except that it might get my wife to play against me if I spot her 5 rewinds. Last time she tried was 4 years ago, and she got frustrated after 1 game despite me trying to keep it competitive. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

05-19-2008, 01:40 PM	#106
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Sounds like an incredibly dumb feature. That's part of the allure of competition. You have your chances to win. If you hit 'em, great. If you miss 'em, you lose. Who wants to make a game-changing play and then have their opponent rewind it? __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 05-19-2008 at 01:41 PM.

05-19-2008, 01:43 PM	#108
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	It¡'s pretty clear that us hardcore simmers are like dinosaurs, forced to disappear. Now, thinking on i again, i might even use it to favor the CPU and rewind every time i pick and int for TD, but 5 rewinds might not be enough... __________________

05-19-2008, 02:17 PM	#111
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	But if it helps sell more PS3s, it will be the greatest feature in the history of ever. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

05-19-2008, 01:47 PM	#109
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	That is the dumbest feature I've heard about in a long time.

05-19-2008, 06:15 PM	#113
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Further proof of exactly how far outside the target audience I am... __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

05-19-2008, 06:50 PM	#115
Arctic Blast n00b Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Leduc, Alberta, Canada	I bought in to the hype and glowing reviews LAST year and picked it up for 360...what an overhyped piece of garbage. Madden 08 was just an absolute mess. And I have still seen no explanation for how the PS3/360 versions have FEWER options and WORSE play than the Xbox and PS2 versions had 5 YEARS AGO! At some point, I'd love to see EA take this series away from, Tiburon, who from what I've seen, have added nothing but half baked promises and half finished 'features', while not fixing any of the major gameplay issues that have killed the series. Give it to anothyer studio, and see what they can do with it. Salvage SOMETHING! Ugh.

05-19-2008, 06:56 PM	#117
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I wonder if I can retry my mascot celebration?

05-30-2008, 09:04 AM	#118
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Here's a cheap way to get the new Madden game. Sign up for a credit card with Bank of America and spend at least $200. If you keep the card open for 90 days, you get Madden 09 for free. hxxps://wwwa.applyonlinenow.com/us/nfl-facmfu/index.html Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 05-30-2008 at 09:05 AM.

05-30-2008, 09:28 AM	#119
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	set rewinds to zero crisis solved. any other problems you want me to fix? Last edited by Anthony : 05-30-2008 at 09:28 AM.

06-03-2008, 05:04 PM	#120
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Russell, a EA community rep, has a large thread over on OS that details (with pictures for proof) the new franchise sim engine stats. I'm just looking now, but they look great. I think the new improved franchise line may actually be true: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-blowout.html A few of the highlights from looking at the pics: Only 2 QB's with over 100 rating (Romo and Rivers), only 10 more between 90-100. Highest yardage is Peyton with 4312 yards. Interceptions seem much more realistic in the sim engine, perhaps even a bit high. Peyton had 18, McNabb and Garcia with 23. A fair number with high teens to low 20' including Tavaris Jackson, Alex Smith, Derek Anderson, and Peyton. Rivers was lowest with 8. Still a few odd stats such as Romo completing 74% (no other QB had higher than 69%) but it looks MUCH better than last year. - No running backs even close to 2000 yards. Peterson led all backs with 1650 on 262 carries. Next highest total was LT with 1450 yards on 245 carries. The highest number of carries was 306 and it looks like backup HB's are actually getting carries. - Top receiver has 102 catches for 1226 yards. Top yardage was 1253 on 86 catches. Some people have commented that receivers YPC are low, but they don't look that bad to me. Most are around 11-13 YPC. - Leading tackler is Paris Lenon with 120, Farrior was 2nd with 118. 14 sacks led the league. - 6 interceptions led the league, and guys had 5 which means the double interception bug is fixed. He has a bunch of screenshots, including team stats as well which look good. Assuming this is all in the final copy, sim engine looks MUCH better than previous years. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 06-03-2008 at 05:22 PM.

06-03-2008, 05:21 PM	#121
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Paris Lenon lead the league in tackles? Sounds broke to me.

06-03-2008, 05:24 PM	#122
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Heh. I knew a Lions' fan would say that That did raise an eyebrow, but overall I'm excited about the improvement represented by these screenshots. I don't need absolute realism from Madden's sim engine, just something in the ballpark __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 06-03-2008 at 05:24 PM.

06-05-2008, 10:57 AM	#124
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	One of the main developers has been on Operation Sports posting and interacting with the community the last week or two. They have made some significant improvements based on community feedback even during that short time period including the latest which is strongly tweaking the deep ball percentages so the AI will actually throw long now. I may get disappointed, but they reportedly have addressed every one of the things that I disliked about Madden last year: - The fumbles are no longer an issue. If you use the cover up button, there is no chance your player will fumble (but he will run slower and won't be able to evade tackles.) - AI defenders no longer pick off unrealistic passes. - The pass rush and the DL won't get pancaked anywhere close to the same frequency as past versions. - Franchise stats are within the realm of believability. - Stupid sound effects such as the booming when you throw deep are gone. - The lack of any deep passing game from the AI. - Speed and other ratings have been changed from a linear relationship to a curved, semi-exponential relationship. Therefore, guys with 95 speed will feel substantially different than 90, etc. Also, the producer says they are still working on trying to get accelerated clock to work for this version. So I've been fully seduced by the hype train of Madden again this year and will be purchasing it again as it seems like this year could be a great version. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 06-05-2008 at 10:58 AM.

06-05-2008, 09:24 PM	#125
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Damn it, why does it all have to sound so awesome. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-05-2008, 10:40 PM	#126
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	IT'S A TRAP! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

06-06-2008, 08:03 AM	#132
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I meant that you haven't played 09 __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-06-2008, 08:36 AM	#134
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	So, do we get in-game save back? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

06-06-2008, 09:19 AM	#135
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I believe the answer to that is no. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

06-06-2008, 10:46 AM	#136
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I figured not, but hey they are going to REALLY fix the defensive back AI this time, so I figured I'd check... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

06-06-2008, 01:25 PM	#137
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	please stop hyping the game EF

06-07-2008, 04:33 AM	#143
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Holy crap! Have you heard Tom Hammond in the game? That's embarassing. I seriously can't believe they are actually going to put that announcing in the game. The radio guy was much better than that.

06-10-2008, 07:27 PM	#144
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	While I was pre-ordering Civ Rev.. I gave in and also pre-ordered the Madden 09 collector's edition. Damn I feel dirty! The main reason was to get HC 09 earlier than its release. I'm sure I'll for this.

06-26-2008, 06:58 AM	#145
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Just when you think it couldn't get worse. EA shortens Madden's already-short development lifecycle by announcing that Madden 09 has gone gold 6 weeks before the release date. Uhhhh, I'm sure all of those nagging issues got addressed......... http://ps3.ign.com/articles/884/884259p1.html

06-26-2008, 07:20 AM	#146
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	It's gold, but it still has to go through the 4-5 week certification process by Sony and Microsoft, so I think the term "gold" is a little premature here. __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know?

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