The 2011 NBA Offseason---Stern says no - Page 3

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:22 PM

Singleton at #18 is good value for Washington. I thought he'd go to Golden State.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:24 PM

Wall-?-Singleton-Vesley-McGee would have to be one of the most athletic lineups around. Of course, they should also get outrebounded by about 20 every game.

korme · 06-23-2011, 08:26 PM

Carmelo Anthony just tweeted: "Goodnight. I'm out."

I feel like he's not thrilled about Iman Shumpert.

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by korme

Carmelo Anthony just tweeted: "Goodnight. I'm out."

I feel like he's not thrilled about Iman Shumpert.

LOL - seriously? That's hilariously bad.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:30 PM

“I believe in Donnie Walsh,” Knicks super fan Spike Lee told ESPN. “That’s his pick. We’re going to go with it. We have no choice.”

JPhillips · 06-23-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Wall-?-Singleton-Vesley-McGee would have to be one of the most athletic lineups around. Of course, they should also get outrebounded by about 20 every game.

I don't think the rebounding will be that bad.

The defense will be so bad that their opponents won't miss that many shots.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:38 PM

Wow, Nolan Smith.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:42 PM

Although FWIW I think Nolan Smith's projected 2nd round status wasn't warranted. If my team was looking for a PG I'd rather they pick Smith than, say, Shumpert.

korme · 06-23-2011, 08:43 PM

Johnny Flynn and Montiejunas to Rockets for #23 and Brad Smith.

Brad Smith, that's the veteran presence the T'Wolves needed!

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:46 PM

Who is Brad Smith?

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by korme

Johnny Flynn and Montiejunas to Rockets for #23 and Brad Smith.

Brad Smith, that's the veteran presence the T'Wolves needed!

lolwut?

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Who is Brad Smith?

It was for Brad Miller.

Ugh that's a bad trade. They need young talent, they're a few years away from needing veterans.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 08:49 PM

And Miller isn't even good veteran help anyway.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:49 PM

Ah. Yeah, that's weird, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, let's see what they do at #23.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:51 PM

Trade one soft tall for another soft tall.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 08:51 PM

Ah, the 23rd pick is included and a future pick. Given the Wolves have horrible international scouting it's hard to put much faith in Mirotic.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:54 PM

Best Brad Miller highlight reel from 2010-11:

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 08:55 PM

Reggie Jackson plus Kevin Durant...NICE!!

Woulda been fun to see him with the C's, but I don't think that was really likely. Now to see what they do.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:55 PM

There goes the guy that Miami apparently wanted, and I guess Eric Maynor is out the door too. I thought Maynor did a better job than Westbrook much of the time these past playoffs.

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 08:56 PM

Errr..I'm reading that the Wolves are trading #23 now for #28 and cash. lol

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 08:57 PM

If they do, god I hope they draft a PG.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Errr..I'm reading that the Wolves are trading #23 now for #28 and cash. lol

I guess Taylor has to make money somehow.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:01 PM

Good pick by the Celtics for #25. Not sure like he sounds like the kind of player that will slot smoothly into the Celtics gameplan, but good value all the same.

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Good pick by the Celtics for #25. Not sure like he sounds like the kind of player that will slot smoothly into the Celtics gameplan, but good value all the same.

And there he goes to the Nets.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:07 PM

What did they move him for?

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:07 PM

Pretty great pickup for the Mavs that low too.

korme · 06-23-2011, 09:09 PM

Mavs are trading No. 26 to Portland to acquire Rudy Fernandez, with Portland moving the pick on to Denver in the Miller/Felton deal

So... Mavs get Rudy Fernandez, Portland gets Ray Felton, Denver gets Andre Miller and Jordan Hamilton?

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

What did they move him for?

For JaJuan Johnson (#27). BOS also picked up a future 2nd rounder.

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:10 PM

I think that's also a good pick by the Celtics (assuming they hold onto him this time...). Looking at the breakdown on Johnson on DraftExpress, he looked like a guy who was pretty undervalued, being projected as a 2nd rounder.

korme · 06-23-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

And Miller isn't even good veteran help anyway.

Yeah, I meant Miller and I was being sarcastic. KAHN!

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:13 PM

LMAO

ANOTHER POINT GUARD FOR MINNESOTA!!!!!

AHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

LMAO

ANOTHER POINT GUARD FOR MINNESOTA!!!!!

AHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA

It's funny because they still need a PG.

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:14 PM

Can Minny be the first team ever to play a 5-guard offense? Haha

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

If they do, god I hope they draft a PG.

!!!!

JonInMiddleGA · 06-23-2011, 09:15 PM

Idly curious: at what point in the draft does Travis Leslie say "uh-oh, I fucked up"?

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 09:16 PM

Wolves took him for the Heat...

Groundhog · 06-23-2011, 09:16 PM

We'll see who is laughing when 18 of the Timberwolves' contracted PGs are struck down with injury.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Wolves took him for the Heat...

Oh, good. Kahn has been so great with first rounders that I can't wait to see what he'll do with a bunch of seconds.

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Wolves took him for the Heat...

Yeah - this seems pretty likely. What'd Minny get...a future first that's going to end up in the bottom of the first round? They'd have been better off keeping Marotic.

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:18 PM

LMAO - wait a second - did I just read that on the ticker?

Ron Artest applied to legally change his name to "Metta World Peace?"

HAHAHAHAAHAH - that's awesome

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groundhog

We'll see who is laughing when ~~18 of the Timberwolves' contracted PGs are struck down with injury~~ Rubio proves to be nothing more than a backup PG in the NBA too.

Indeed.

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Yeah - this seems pretty likely. What'd Minny get...a future first that's going to end up in the bottom of the first round? They'd have been better off keeping Marotic.

#31, baby! No more guaranteed money ow ow!

Noop · 06-23-2011, 09:27 PM

Miami traded very well.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 09:31 PM

Minnesota has a very good international scouting staff? Since when?

DaddyTorgo · 06-23-2011, 09:31 PM

Oooh look - another Euro guard for a few years down the line.

jbergey22 · 06-23-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Minnesota has a very good international scouting staff? Since when?

Do you understand what kind of a circus they are running during the draft every single year because I dont get it?

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Oooh look - another Euro guard for a few years down the line.

Nets bought the #31 pick from the Wolves.

sovereignstar v2 · 06-23-2011, 09:36 PM

Wolves must have Rambis' buyout paid off now.

RainMaker · 06-23-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Miami traded very well.

I don't know. I think they could have had Cole at 31 and they added another guaranteed contract. I guess maybe they are assuming they'll lose Chalmers.

mckerney · 06-23-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Do you understand what kind of a circus they are running during the draft every single year because I dont get it?

I just don't get where the Wolves foreign scouting reputation comes form. Who exactly have they had success with from overseas? Igor Rakocevic and Nicola Pecovic?

And I don't think it's just a circus during the draft...

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06-23-2011, 08:22 PM	#101
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Singleton at #18 is good value for Washington. I thought he'd go to Golden State. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:24 PM	#102
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Wall-?-Singleton-Vesley-McGee would have to be one of the most athletic lineups around. Of course, they should also get outrebounded by about 20 every game. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:30 PM	#105
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	“I believe in Donnie Walsh,” Knicks super fan Spike Lee told ESPN. “That’s his pick. We’re going to go with it. We have no choice.” __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:38 PM	#107
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Wow, Nolan Smith. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:26 PM	#103
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Carmelo Anthony just tweeted: "Goodnight. I'm out." I feel like he's not thrilled about Iman Shumpert.

06-23-2011, 08:42 PM	#108
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Although FWIW I think Nolan Smith's projected 2nd round status wasn't warranted. If my team was looking for a PG I'd rather they pick Smith than, say, Shumpert. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:43 PM	#109
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Johnny Flynn and Montiejunas to Rockets for #23 and Brad Smith. Brad Smith, that's the veteran presence the T'Wolves needed!

06-23-2011, 08:46 PM	#110
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Who is Brad Smith? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:49 PM	#113
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	And Miller isn't even good veteran help anyway.

06-23-2011, 08:49 PM	#114
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Ah. Yeah, that's weird, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, let's see what they do at #23. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:51 PM	#115
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Trade one soft tall for another soft tall. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:51 PM	#116
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ah, the 23rd pick is included and a future pick. Given the Wolves have horrible international scouting it's hard to put much faith in Mirotic.

06-23-2011, 08:54 PM	#117
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Best Brad Miller highlight reel from 2010-11: __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:55 PM	#118
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Reggie Jackson plus Kevin Durant...NICE!! Woulda been fun to see him with the C's, but I don't think that was really likely. Now to see what they do. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-23-2011 at 08:55 PM.

06-23-2011, 08:55 PM	#119
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	There goes the guy that Miami apparently wanted, and I guess Eric Maynor is out the door too. I thought Maynor did a better job than Westbrook much of the time these past playoffs. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 08:56 PM	#120
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Errr..I'm reading that the Wolves are trading #23 now for #28 and cash. lol

06-23-2011, 08:57 PM	#121
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	If they do, god I hope they draft a PG. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 09:01 PM	#123
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Good pick by the Celtics for #25. Not sure like he sounds like the kind of player that will slot smoothly into the Celtics gameplan, but good value all the same. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce Last edited by Groundhog : 06-23-2011 at 09:01 PM.

06-23-2011, 09:07 PM	#125
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	What did they move him for? __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 09:07 PM	#126
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	Pretty great pickup for the Mavs that low too. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 09:09 PM	#127
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Mavs are trading No. 26 to Portland to acquire Rudy Fernandez, with Portland moving the pick on to Denver in the Miller/Felton deal So... Mavs get Rudy Fernandez, Portland gets Ray Felton, Denver gets Andre Miller and Jordan Hamilton?

06-23-2011, 09:10 PM	#129
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I think that's also a good pick by the Celtics (assuming they hold onto him this time...). Looking at the breakdown on Johnson on DraftExpress, he looked like a guy who was pretty undervalued, being projected as a 2nd rounder. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 09:13 PM	#131
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LMAO ANOTHER POINT GUARD FOR MINNESOTA!!!!! AHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

06-23-2011, 09:14 PM	#133
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Can Minny be the first team ever to play a 5-guard offense? Haha

06-23-2011, 09:15 PM	#135
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Idly curious: at what point in the draft does Travis Leslie say "uh-oh, I fucked up"? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-23-2011, 09:16 PM	#136
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Wolves took him for the Heat...

06-23-2011, 09:16 PM	#137
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	We'll see who is laughing when 18 of the Timberwolves' contracted PGs are struck down with injury. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

06-23-2011, 09:18 PM	#140
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	LMAO - wait a second - did I just read that on the ticker? Ron Artest applied to legally change his name to "Metta World Peace?" HAHAHAHAAHAH - that's awesome

06-23-2011, 09:27 PM	#143
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Miami traded very well. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

06-23-2011, 09:31 PM	#144
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Minnesota has a very good international scouting staff? Since when?

06-23-2011, 09:31 PM	#145
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Oooh look - another Euro guard for a few years down the line.

06-23-2011, 09:36 PM	#148
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Wolves must have Rambis' buyout paid off now.

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