02-21-2006, 01:54 AM | #101 | |
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But then the question is if you had a group of 5 that got denied, how would you know who to eliminate? You could also have multiple pirates in that group. You would still have to meet the gold requirement. If you thought you had enough gold to buy monopoly with the first 5 people, you probably don't have enough gold to buy it with 4 people.
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02-21-2006, 02:05 AM | #102 |
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02-21-2006, 02:12 AM | #103 |
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Just in case it's important, I'm not #18 on the list, because there's no #17 -- I should probably be #17.
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02-21-2006, 02:24 AM | #104 |
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It helps. I was thinking we had 18 so the ratio could be 15/3 or 14/4. With 17, 14/3 seems more likely because 13/4 feels like a lot of pirates.
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02-21-2006, 06:23 AM | #105 |
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I'm checking in.
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02-21-2006, 07:15 AM | #106 |
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02-21-2006, 07:18 AM | #107 |
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I'm going to have limited availability for most of the day - hopefully this doesn't present any issues without a vote taking place.
I'm thinking hard about using my CampOut option today and going to mine one of the remote areas to see if I can get some big gold to start the game off. I could then report that back to the masses on my findings, subject to Barkeep's comments on forming a monopoly. If I know someone is coming along for the ride we could do a mutual watch action on the other player, thus starting to generate some level of trust. Thoughts? If we need to keep our groups smaller, then I suspect we will need to either communicate publicly on our circles of monopoly trust - which will be challenging to do without being elitist - or else pick up radios for some communication. |
02-21-2006, 07:43 AM | #108 |
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With the amount of Gold needed it is unlikely that a small group could get the gold together early on in order to buy a monopoly just so you know as you strategize during the day.
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02-21-2006, 07:48 AM | #109 |
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Treasure hunter here, with alot of confusion on how to get gold!
On my way to work, will re-check out the rules and such when I get there. |
02-21-2006, 08:28 AM | #110 |
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Ok, reading through, a couple of questions..
We can move diagonal in direction on the map for the normal movement costs unless entering special terrain correct? Not just cardinal directions? Also, can the only times we are attacked by pirates be during the evening cycles? Or can they also kill us during the morning cycle if they happen to be alone in a square with you? (My reading of the rules seemed to say that the latter is possible). I saw an option to "Watch" someone else while out, but no real protection while digging. Taking hoop's idea I wonder if it would be benifitial to go out in pairs, to have one dig while the other keeps an eye out for safety. |
02-21-2006, 08:32 AM | #111 | |
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Though it should be noted that i dont know how much AP killing costs, so is it possible for them to kill like 6 people if they are all in the same square?
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02-21-2006, 08:35 AM | #112 |
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Dola, as for your pairs idea...it could work or could backfire horribly. If the pirates are picked as diggers, they could just sit back and out dig us to win. They can win by ratio or gold i thought. So while it could work, it could backfire horribly and be our death stroke based on who was picked to do what.
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02-21-2006, 08:37 AM | #113 |
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Pirates can only kill during the Morning Cycle. Killing costs 1 AP and while 5 kill actions are theoretically possible, they are unlikely due to the high probability that someone would witness one of them, without them even having to use the watch action.
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02-21-2006, 08:53 AM | #114 |
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An older man, wizzened by the sun, tanned leather brown, with a whitish, grayish dirty beard and brown eyes that are filled with intensity and hatred wanders into the hut, notices all the newcomers and begins to rant, spittle dripping from his small angry mouth.
"Oooooh, I am a hopping MAD! I am so mad at all you, making a mess of my plans! All these years! So close to, to discov'rin' the source, to being rich! But you /ALL/ had t'come! Everyone of you should leave NOW! All of you! GET! It's MINE! Should be...I a earned it. Using maps, digging in the sun, rolling big rocks, understandin' the locals. EVERYONE, GO! Leave me the treasures, hunting in peace without you yutes underminin' whot's rightfully MINE! Ole Qwikshot 'noes! I AIN'T CRAZY! I can TASTE it! I can feel it! EVERYONE GETS! I'll fix you youn'ins. REAL real real real....(pauses) real Goooood (swigs whiskey and turns out).
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02-21-2006, 09:04 AM | #116 | |
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Could alternate turns perhaps. So its not the same digger each day in the pair. I'm wondering what might happen if someone tries to kill digger A, while digger B watches them. Would Digger B see who the killer is? Would they be able to do anything to help protect them? (ie: 2 vs 1?). |
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02-21-2006, 09:05 AM | #117 | |
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I'm attempting somethin' you GALOOT! As for how long I been here, none of your bizness, little wet behind the ears punk...Now leave me be. (out of character - I'm be around on and off due to work needs)
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02-21-2006, 09:09 AM | #118 |
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Also I wonder what type of gold replinishment rate there is at spots. Ie: if you hit a good spot every day as the only digger there, will it keep replinishing, or will you likely go many days without and gold at all.
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02-21-2006, 09:09 AM | #119 |
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Treasure hunter checking in. I'm leaving for work in a few which should allow me plenty of time to catch up on the rules and such.
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02-21-2006, 09:10 AM | #120 | |
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02-21-2006, 09:11 AM | #121 | |
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02-21-2006, 09:11 AM | #122 | |
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02-21-2006, 09:13 AM | #123 |
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Oh and 1 rule clarification which I mis informed somebody earlier via PM
The cost for a square's AP is when you move ONTO the square not when you leave the square. Not sure if it is perfectly logical, but it's how I planned things in terms of balance. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 02-21-2006 at 09:13 AM. |
02-21-2006, 09:19 AM | #124 | |
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02-21-2006, 09:22 AM | #125 |
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Im going to hold off my morning actions until later today, but i imagine ill end up merely gold searching today and voting for vince to start the evening off
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02-21-2006, 09:24 AM | #126 |
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Don't really have time to go through this thead during work today, but I'll get through it this evening.
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02-21-2006, 09:58 AM | #127 |
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commencement at MIT just ended, i got my doctorate in Barkeep games....treasure hunter checking in
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02-21-2006, 10:03 AM | #128 |
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couple things up to this point....
the pairs idea would be nice, except for the fact that we would need some dumbass pirates to have them actually whack the guy they went out with. add to that the sneaky trait they have, and we would probably end up killing alot of treasure hunters if say, hoops and i were in a pair, and a pirate used his sneak ability to whack me....hoops would automatically get lynched for no reason. the filter by monopoly idea would theoretically work, but i think it would take so much time that we could have bought a monopoly faster (of course we dont know how much GP we need for that, so this is just a guess) |
02-21-2006, 10:06 AM | #129 | |
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Read "between" the lines boy, I fear no stupid stinky pirates anymore than I fear you interlopers comin and ruining my plans.
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02-21-2006, 10:06 AM | #130 |
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just checking in
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02-21-2006, 10:09 AM | #131 | |
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I dont feel its important to lynch him over it, but a seer might be inclined to scan his way....usually someone with a role where he isnt afraid of pirates(bodyguard, blessed) doesnt advertise it unless they really dont have it...i did the same thing last game, and i wasnt a villager...wasnt an other, but still
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02-21-2006, 10:10 AM | #132 | |
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It doesn't matter, just pick one to eliminate and regroup. Eventually you're left with a group of trusted and a group of possibles. Then you would regroup the possibles and do it again. For example, divide into three groups of six. Anyway, it would take concerted planning, so as long as that doesn't happen, it won't matter I guess. |
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02-21-2006, 10:15 AM | #133 | |
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BARKEEP, what happens to the money when a player is killed? Is his cash dispersed evenly, dissapears? What if it is in a bank account?
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02-21-2006, 10:16 AM | #134 | |
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OOC: Why cannot we make assumptions in some sort of character. You sound like an intellectual dissecting a the hidden plot of some thick Russian novel. In Character: Methinks that Blade is chomping at the bit to take charge, seems like I knows his type from before, always chattering, assuming, being an all around schmo thinking he's more important that he really is...time and time again, puffing his chest, pumping his fist, blowing smoke (sigh) Yer type ain't appreciated, you ain't no treasure hunter, you sound like some half baked TOURIST, got no right going out and digging (bet you gonna do it with your hands!)...no sir, you ain't the brilliant type, you just ain't.
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02-21-2006, 10:20 AM | #135 | |
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02-21-2006, 10:21 AM | #136 | |
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this was in the rules, didnt you read them, it only took a second or two..... if you are killed by pirates, they keep any gold you are carrying. if it is in the bank, you can leave it to another player through your will, but the will must be filed before you died. |
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02-21-2006, 10:25 AM | #137 | |
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It seems obvious to me that he's the crazy old treasure hunter from Scooby Doo. Probably with individual winning conditions. Maybe Barkeep told him to come out early. |
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02-21-2006, 10:26 AM | #138 | |
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I always like to camp out the first day I'm digging for gold. |
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02-21-2006, 10:27 AM | #139 | |
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02-21-2006, 10:28 AM | #140 |
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seems to me Qwik is just a steroetypical treasure hunter...a fat, dumb, old, bald guy that has spent too much time in the sun
BARKEEP: what happens to AP that we have left at the end of the day, do they carry over into the next day, or is the most we can start any given day with 5 |
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Buying no doze gives us an extra 2 AP that morning So we can start with 7, though it cant be used back to back days
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02-21-2006, 10:34 AM | #143 |
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actually, i didnt read all the items...figured i would wait until i had some gold to worry about that.
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02-21-2006, 10:35 AM | #144 | |
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Your assessment is fine, but have some in character dialogue as well...my assessment right now is that you are probably pirate because you like to assess everyone else, therefore inflating your post count and ego , and drawing less attention to yourself being out in the open.
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02-21-2006, 10:37 AM | #145 |
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Mangy varmit, I ain't fat, ain't bald, and the sun is glorious. You young whippersnappers will see. You seem to be a stereotypical young thickheaded whelp without a clue.
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02-21-2006, 10:42 AM | #147 | |
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In character: In all your self-proclaimed wisdom old man, is there someone i should be assessing instead. Please tell me, i love crazy stories from senile old men...while your telling me, ill be getting rich so i can buy your house and kick you out
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FOOL! I don't t'own a house, shows how much you know! As fer stories, have I told one, I dunno...I bet you love more from old men that I don't wanna know about, but that is a story I'm sure you can tell. Seems awful quiet for a bunch of gold fever golddiggers, you ain't got the sense, or the GUTS (spits and grins a broken toothed grin). OOC: Don't tell me about understanding the game, the point of this game is you are in one of two parties with the expectation to reach your goal. The question is who is on who's side, and you can do it while having some marginal skills in playing out a character...be the know it all, I don't care, but do so with some passion man, I've seen mathematicians show more passion solving a problem. It'll be more fun I swear...right now I picture Blade with a sherlock hat, a stubby sidesick, and a small spade for digging..."Ah yes, the games afoot, I recall this to be the same as my case of the Dancing Men, do you remember that one Watson, what-what...time for tea, okay, let me play my violin".
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02-21-2006, 10:57 AM | #149 |
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