NFL Week 17 - Page 3

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:26 PM

good game saints... way to play in carolina forced the turnovers thats how u win.

congrats cats good recoveryin the second of the season, amazing your fifth string running back, and moose came on strong, good job, but you just didnt take care of business at home in week 17. good luck next year, you know we will be back. steve smith back, davis and foster wow. dont forget kris jenkins... oh well. good season guys.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:26 PM

There's nobody in the NFC that can touch the Eagles. Can someone give me a logical favorite other than them?

John Galt · 01-02-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I don't think you throw general game theory out the window. Theres probably a lot to be said for the mental advantage of winning this game and actually "earning" your way into the playoffs.

And although unlikely, it's possible they didn't know Buffalo had already lost.

I've never really bought the "winning" mindset argument. If Curtis or Chad blows out his knee in the OT, tell me if you think they should have gone for it. Teams that have nothing to play for going into week 17 (like the Eagles) aren't giving up a "winning" mindset and if the Jets know they are in (which they may not have), then I don't think that is any different.

Sun Tzu · 01-02-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

They clinched last week. Cleveland has played a brutal schedule, and there was no way their opponents' winning percentage could drop enough. In fact, Cleveland would drop to 4 with a win and Miami and Tennessee losses.

Ah, wasn't quite sure. I knew that if the Niners won and the Browns lost, they would both have the same Overall, Divional, and Conference records.

Masked · 01-02-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Jeez... I just heard on CBS that if St. Louis loses, then the SAINTS end up in the playoffs as a result of beating Carolina. Minnesota is apparently already in, since New Orleans kicked Carolina out.

GO JETS!

Julio Riddols · 01-02-2005, 03:28 PM

Mark my words.. Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh. Thats your Super Bowl. After an improbable 10 point 4th quarter comeback to win 27-24, Favre retires, and the NFC loses another decent team. Next season, the NFL changes the playoff format to include the top 4 wildcards despite their conference affiliations, an unprecedented move that leads to 8 AFC playoff teams... You heard it here first.

EDIT: The Eagles will be knocked out when their offense struggles against the first team they face. T.O. being lost is a HUGE blow to them. Who will score in his place? This is what stopped them last season, and it will stop them again.. I bet its going to be Green Bay getting their revenge. They are on a roll, and Philly proved their lack of depth by getting spanked hard by Cincinnati today. It wouldnt have mattered who was playing QB, two straight losses to teams with not so great defenses is an indication to me that Philadelphia is a lot more beatable without T.O.

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:28 PM

i wouldnt mind seeing mcnabb get knocked the fuck out in his playoff game.

John Galt · 01-02-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

HAhaahahahah. BYE BYE Panthers. Ricky Manning JR is a bitch!

Seriously, your dislike of the Panthers is more than a little bizarre.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Mark my words.. Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh. Thats your Super Bowl. After an improbable 10 point 4th quarter comeback to win 27-24, Favre retires, and the NFC loses another decent team. Next season, the NFL changes the playoff format to include the top 4 wildcards despite their conference affiliations, an unprecedented move that leads to 8 AFC playoff teams... You heard it here first.

Have you seen the Packers secondary? Al Harris? Give me a break.

Solecismic · 01-02-2005, 03:29 PM

Vikings clinched a wild card spot. Either St. Louis or New Orleans for the last spot. In the AFC, Jets clinched, and Denver gets the last spot if it wins. If the Broncos lose, then it comes down to the Jacksonville game. If Jacksonville wins, it gets the last spot, otherwise, Baltimore does.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

i wouldnt mind seeing mcnabb get knocked the fuck out in his playoff game.

How can you paint McNabb a villan?

That and I never wished for an injury on the Panthers. They just didn't deserve to be in last year, and I'm a little bitter thats all

.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:31 PM

4th a 4 from the Jets 44, do the Rams go for it?

ISiddiqui · 01-02-2005, 03:31 PM

Well, the Rams have to punt on their first OT drive.

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:31 PM

they didnt deserve last year? lol we swept through the nfc playoffs. how did we not deserve it?

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

There's nobody in the NFC that can touch the Eagles. Can someone give me a logical favorite other than them?

No one will be a favorite over them, but I can see Atlanta, Green Bay, or even St. Louis beating them.

Ragone · 01-02-2005, 03:32 PM

Don't worry.. Philadelphia's team mom will lead them to another nfc championship game loss

wow i just leapfrogged 5 posts hah

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:32 PM

sorry for saying that about mcnabb, i dont wish that on anyone, just my bitterness coming out.. lol

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

they didnt deserve last year? lol we swept through the nfc playoffs. how did we not deserve it?

Because you had a 1 year wonder fraud team who didn't make the playoffs the year before, and didn't make the playoff's the year after.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

4th a 4 from the Jets 44, do the Rams go for it?

No way. The Jets are struggling to move the ball. Punt just like you usually would and play defense.

Radii · 01-02-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

There's nobody in the NFC that can touch the Eagles. Can someone give me a logical favorite other than them?

Eagles are going into the playoffs with absolutely no momentum and are without the one player who was supposed to finally put them over the top... I would be scared to death if I was an Eagles fan right now. Surely they have the best talent but I wouldn't have any faith in them right now.

Desnudo · 01-02-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Mark my words.. Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh. Thats your Super Bowl. After an improbable 10 point 4th quarter comeback to win 27-24, Favre retires, and the NFC loses another decent team. Next season, the NFL changes the playoff format to include the top 4 wildcards despite their conference affiliations, an unprecedented move that leads to 8 AFC playoff teams... You heard it here first.

Marked. Cuckoo! Cuckoo!

Here's my prediction: after throwing 3 inexplicable hail mary ints in a first round playoff game loss, Favre is carried off the field on the shoulders of Joe Theisman and Paul McGuire.

MikeVic · 01-02-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

Have you seen the Packers secondary? Al Harris? Give me a break.

Who is there to defend on the Eagles?

Todd "I'm afraid of getting hit" Pinkston?

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragone

Don't worry.. Philadelphia's team mom will lead them to another nfc championship game loss

I smell a rancid batch of Chunky's soup being delivered to the locker room sometime next week.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:34 PM

Indy, make my dreams come true and win this thing.

Sun Tzu · 01-02-2005, 03:34 PM

I would really like to see Denver in the playoffs. Have they been eliminated already? I don't know what it is, but I always feel compelled to root for Jake Plummer.

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:34 PM

i honestly would rather go to the superbowl and lose in a very well fought game to the pats, then lose 3 straight nfc championships.. lol

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Who is there to defend on the Eagles?

Todd "I'm afraid of getting hit" Pinkston?

lol, I see your point.

I think that having Westbrook heathy this year is going to be the key. That and the defense is playing great this year when the starters are healthy. Ever since Trotter has been in the middle, they've been very solid against the run, and Kearse is one of the linemen in this league that can actually change a game.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I would really like to see Denver in the playoffs. Have they been eliminated already? I don't know what it is, but I always feel compelled to root for Jake Plummer.

This is a playoff game for them.

#6 seed

Denver win = Denver
Denver loss, Jacksonville win = Jacksonville
Denver loss, Jacksonville loss = Baltimore

Radii · 01-02-2005, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Philliesfan980

How can you paint McNabb a villan?

That and I never wished for an injury on the Panthers. They just didn't deserve to be in last year, and I'm a little bitter thats all

.

They had a very good team last year and without a john kasay kick out of bounds may well would have been the super bowl winner, not just runner up, and this year lost something like 75% of their WR/RB offense from the last season in the first 3 weeks, and lost their best defensive lineman, and had a rookie corner starting all year, and overcame what, 4 RB injuries to almost come back from 1-7 to finish .500... I think this is a team w/ a very positive future.

Hey, I'd be bitter if I was an Eagles fan too, but I don't think it takes anything away from what Carolina did last year or the positive outlook for the franchise.

k0ruptr · 01-02-2005, 03:37 PM

well said radii

Ben E Lou · 01-02-2005, 03:38 PM

C'mon Mora. This game is meaningless. Take Vick out NOW.

Julio Riddols · 01-02-2005, 03:38 PM

The Packers D was good enough to beat the Vikings.. The Eagles dont have near the passing game Minnesota does. So unless Freddie Mitchell or Todd Pinkston show up and really turn some heads, Green Bay will beat Philly. Any team could cover those receivers. The best team in the NFL is Pittsburgh, and the top 6 teams all come from the AFC. I think if T.O. was healthy though, Philly would be as close to a super bowl lock as you can get.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

They had a very good team last year and without a john kasay kick out of bounds may well would have been the super bowl winner, not just runner up, and this year lost something like 75% of their WR/RB offense from the last season in the first 3 weeks, and lost their best defensive lineman, and had a rookie corner starting all year, and overcame what, 4 RB injuries to almost come back from 1-7 to finish .500... I think this is a team w/ a very positive future.

Hey, I'd be bitter if I was an Eagles fan too, but I don't think it takes anything away from what Carolina did last year or the positive outlook for the franchise.

I think I'm jealous because someone forgot to tell the Panthers (and the Marlins for that matter) that your supposted to get to the playoff's and lose in the first or second round for a few years before you get to the SuperBowl/ World Series!

Sun Tzu · 01-02-2005, 03:38 PM

Thanks homer.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The Packers D was good enough to beat the Vikings.. The Eagles dont have near the passing game Minnesota does. So unless Freddie Mitchell or Todd Pinkston show up and really turn some heads, Green Bay will beat Philly. Any team could cover those receivers. The best team in the NFL is Pittsburgh, and the top 6 teams all come from the AFC. I think if T.O. was healthy though, Philly would be as close to a super bowl lock as you can get.

Trust me, I've seen Al Harris. He's good for 2-3 Defensive Holding calls a game. If he's your #1 CB (I think he is), you're in a world of trouble.

ISiddiqui · 01-02-2005, 03:40 PM

Well good news for the Broncoes is that Sorgi is in at QB for Indy. But the bad news is that he's already connected for a TD

.

temley06 · 01-02-2005, 03:40 PM

Too bad Carolina is out, I think they would be a much more worthy opponent than either Minnesota or St. Louis.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:41 PM

Oh, and the #6 seed in the AFC plays Indy. So A Denver win sets up a Denver @ Indy rematch. I kind of doubt that's ever happened to the same set of teams two years in a row.

MikeVic · 01-02-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

C'mon Mora. This game is meaningless. Take Vick out NOW.

Vick is actually playing???

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:42 PM

The odds of a tie are increasing by the minute in the Jets game. The Rams need a win, while New Orleans wants a Jets win or tie.

Solecismic · 01-02-2005, 03:43 PM

If Seattle loses to Atlanta, that means three of the six NFC playoff teams will be 8-8.

And if St. Louis wins, that means the division with quite possibly the worst overall record in NFL history will produce two playoff teams.

ISiddiqui · 01-02-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Vick is actually playing???

Well he didn't look half bad in the first drive. Now the 1st Q is over, he should probably sit. He didn't play last week and they have a bye, don't want him to be too rusty.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:44 PM

Huge run by Curtis Martin who is making a very serious run at the rushing title. He's got over 150 yards.

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:44 PM

Big run by Martin

Philliesfan980 · 01-02-2005, 03:45 PM

the 35 *SHOULD* be good enough for any good NFL kicker indoors.

Ben E Lou · 01-02-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Vick is actually playing???

Yeah, and he took a very hard hit attempting a pass. As bad as our offensive line is and as much as this game means to Seattle, let the guy sit.

Ben E Lou · 01-02-2005, 03:46 PM

Ack. He's still in at the start of the 2nd qtr.

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:46 PM

About a 53 yard field goal attempt coming by the Jets...

cthomer5000 · 01-02-2005, 03:46 PM

...wide right.

ISiddiqui · 01-02-2005, 03:46 PM

Jeez.. Brien missed it

01-02-2005, 03:26 PM	#101
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	good game saints... way to play in carolina forced the turnovers thats how u win. congrats cats good recoveryin the second of the season, amazing your fifth string running back, and moose came on strong, good job, but you just didnt take care of business at home in week 17. good luck next year, you know we will be back. steve smith back, davis and foster wow. dont forget kris jenkins... oh well. good season guys. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:28 PM	#106
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Mark my words.. Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh. Thats your Super Bowl. After an improbable 10 point 4th quarter comeback to win 27-24, Favre retires, and the NFC loses another decent team. Next season, the NFL changes the playoff format to include the top 4 wildcards despite their conference affiliations, an unprecedented move that leads to 8 AFC playoff teams... You heard it here first. EDIT: The Eagles will be knocked out when their offense struggles against the first team they face. T.O. being lost is a HUGE blow to them. Who will score in his place? This is what stopped them last season, and it will stop them again.. I bet its going to be Green Bay getting their revenge. They are on a roll, and Philly proved their lack of depth by getting spanked hard by Cincinnati today. It wouldnt have mattered who was playing QB, two straight losses to teams with not so great defenses is an indication to me that Philadelphia is a lot more beatable without T.O. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA Last edited by Julio Riddols : 01-02-2005 at 03:32 PM.

01-02-2005, 03:28 PM	#107
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	i wouldnt mind seeing mcnabb get knocked the fuck out in his playoff game. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:31 PM	#113
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well, the Rams have to punt on their first OT drive. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-02-2005, 03:31 PM	#114
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	they didnt deserve last year? lol we swept through the nfc playoffs. how did we not deserve it? __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:26 PM	#102
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	There's nobody in the NFC that can touch the Eagles. Can someone give me a logical favorite other than them?

01-02-2005, 03:29 PM	#110
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Vikings clinched a wild card spot. Either St. Louis or New Orleans for the last spot. In the AFC, Jets clinched, and Denver gets the last spot if it wins. If the Broncos lose, then it comes down to the Jacksonville game. If Jacksonville wins, it gets the last spot, otherwise, Baltimore does.

01-02-2005, 03:31 PM	#112
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	4th a 4 from the Jets 44, do the Rams go for it?

01-02-2005, 03:32 PM	#116
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Don't worry.. Philadelphia's team mom will lead them to another nfc championship game loss wow i just leapfrogged 5 posts hah Last edited by Ragone : 01-02-2005 at 03:33 PM.

01-02-2005, 03:32 PM	#117
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	sorry for saying that about mcnabb, i dont wish that on anyone, just my bitterness coming out.. lol __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:34 PM	#125
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I would really like to see Denver in the playoffs. Have they been eliminated already? I don't know what it is, but I always feel compelled to root for Jake Plummer. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon. Last edited by Sun Tzu : 01-02-2005 at 03:34 PM.

01-02-2005, 03:34 PM	#126
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	i honestly would rather go to the superbowl and lose in a very well fought game to the pats, then lose 3 straight nfc championships.. lol __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:37 PM	#130
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	well said radii __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-02-2005, 03:38 PM	#131
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	C'mon Mora. This game is meaningless. Take Vick out NOW. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-02-2005, 03:38 PM	#132
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	The Packers D was good enough to beat the Vikings.. The Eagles dont have near the passing game Minnesota does. So unless Freddie Mitchell or Todd Pinkston show up and really turn some heads, Green Bay will beat Philly. Any team could cover those receivers. The best team in the NFL is Pittsburgh, and the top 6 teams all come from the AFC. I think if T.O. was healthy though, Philly would be as close to a super bowl lock as you can get. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

01-02-2005, 03:38 PM	#134
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Thanks homer. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

01-02-2005, 03:40 PM	#136
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well good news for the Broncoes is that Sorgi is in at QB for Indy. But the bad news is that he's already connected for a TD . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-02-2005, 03:40 PM	#137
temley06 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis	Too bad Carolina is out, I think they would be a much more worthy opponent than either Minnesota or St. Louis.

01-02-2005, 03:43 PM	#141
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	If Seattle loses to Atlanta, that means three of the six NFC playoff teams will be 8-8. And if St. Louis wins, that means the division with quite possibly the worst overall record in NFL history will produce two playoff teams. Last edited by Solecismic : 01-02-2005 at 03:44 PM.

01-02-2005, 03:44 PM	#144
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	Big run by Martin

01-02-2005, 03:45 PM	#145
Philliesfan980 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Exton, PA	the 35 SHOULD be good enough for any good NFL kicker indoors.

01-02-2005, 03:46 PM	#147
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Ack. He's still in at the start of the 2nd qtr. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

01-02-2005, 03:46 PM	#150
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Jeez.. Brien missed it __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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