Oblivion: Elder Scrolls IV - PC Roleplaying Game - Page 3

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 05:35 PM

If anyone can help, I'll greatly appreciate it. I've tried every trick I know to delete these darn temp files. I've gotten rid of almost everyone, but Norton states there are a few left and for some reason it won't delete them.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 05:40 PM

#!%! I thought I figured out the problem. I found the numbered files in Windows' temp folder. I deleted them. I'm still getting the ATI Catalyst when I attempt to autoplay the DVD for this game!

GrantDawg · 03-21-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

#!%! I thought I figured out the problem. I found the numbered files in Windows' temp folder. I deleted them. I'm still getting the ATI Catalyst when I attempt to autoplay the DVD for this game!

Crap. I've had the same problem before and fixed it, I just can't remember where the files were that I had to get rid of. It is always ATI drivers, too.

ISiddiqui · 03-21-2006, 07:43 PM

Wow... what a great game. Graphics are top notch. I'm running it on Very High with a resolution of 1280*1024 and it's running really nice.

The 'realistic' lighting is from HDR. Though using that means I can't use anti-aliasing, and I'm going to play around to see what looks the best. Though I think just having HDR rather than AA will make it far more impressive.

The gameplay is similar, but the Imperial City is freaking awesome! Much bigger and better than any city in Morrowind. I'm exploring that rather than doing my main quest at the moment

. Lots of shops and lots of people around (each with great facial graphics and voice acting).

With the main menu screen and the beginning of the new campaign it also makes it FEEL like you are walking into something EPIC. The music, the Patrick Stewart voice over, the ancient looking menus. Just wonderful.

I'm impressed so far.

KWhit · 03-21-2006, 08:01 PM

I cannot wait to get this for my birthday (Friday). Woot!

jbmagic · 03-21-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Actually, no

That should be the solution, but I've deleted them with Norton's program. I've deleted them with Clean Disk, yet whenever I put any disk in, it keeps trying to install ATI's Catalyst Control Center

Easy fix

goto start/run and type msconfig

Than tab over to startup and uncheck anything to do with ATI and then click on apply.

restart computer

Bearcat729 · 03-21-2006, 09:18 PM

I like the fact that you can't sell stolen goods to just any store. You have to find a fence to sell them.

Godzilla Blitz · 03-21-2006, 09:23 PM

Really tried to resist this one, but I might as well just give up.

I'll likely get this in the next couple of days.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 09:35 PM

I'll try that to see if it works in a little bit, jbmagic.

Antmeister · 03-21-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

#!%! I thought I figured out the problem. I found the numbered files in Windows' temp folder. I deleted them. I'm still getting the ATI Catalyst when I attempt to autoplay the DVD for this game!

Here's a nifty program to get rid of ATI drivers:
http://www.drivercleaner.net/professional.html

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Here's a nifty program to get rid of ATI drivers:
http://www.drivercleaner.net/professional.html

Uhmmm, this might be a stupid question, but will that uninstall them or just get rid of the installation files that are hanging around. Am I wrong in assuming I need the ATI drivers to remain installed for my ATI Graphics card?

Coffee Warlord · 03-21-2006, 10:07 PM

Aestus the Master Thief has risen. Oh yes.

Hint to all those who follow in my footsteps....stealing wine rocks.

Antmeister · 03-21-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Uhmmm, this might be a stupid question, but will that uninstall them or just get rid of the installation files that are hanging around. Am I wrong in assuming I need the ATI drivers to remain installed for my ATI Graphics card?

Ooops, sorry about this. I should have read the page previous to this one to see what the original problem was. Well you can just cancel autoplay and install the file directly from the CD. Right click on that drive, select Open, look for the setup.exe file and it should just install.

So no it was not a stupid question. I just should have went back a page.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Ooops, sorry about this. I should have read the page previous to this one to see what the original problem was. Well you can just cancel autoplay and install the file directly from the CD. Right click on that drive, select Open, look for the setup.exe file and it should just install.

So no it was not a stupid question. I just should have went back a page.

I'm still not sure if jbmagic's solution will cause the same problem..

I'm going to try it once this virus scan is done.

Edit to add: I don't even want to play anymore tonight, I just want it installed. By the way, I know I could have done that workaround (like I did for my last 2 games), but I'm determined to figure out why the ATI files keep trying to install.

Antmeister · 03-21-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'm still not sure if jbmagic's solution will cause the same problem..

I'm going to try it once this virus scan is done.

Edit to add: I don't even want to play anymore tonight, I just want it installed. By the way, I know I could have done that workaround (like I did for my last 2 games), but I'm determined to figure out why the ATI files keep trying to install.

Sorry, if I had an ATI card, I could look more into it. Unfortunately I don't have that type of card.

jbmagic · 03-21-2006, 10:29 PM

Eaglefan27

Yep

You will be good to go once you do it.

Godzilla Blitz · 03-21-2006, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Actually, no

That should be the solution, but I've deleted them with Norton's program. I've deleted them with Clean Disk, yet whenever I put any disk in, it keeps trying to install ATI's Catalyst Control Center

This might be a stupid suggestion, and sorry if you've already mentioned this, but you did uninstall the Control Center, correct? There is an ATI Software Utility Uninstall in the Add/Remove programs list on my computer, and I believe you can selectively uninstall components of the Control Center from there.

And yes, That ATI Control Center software is friggin' obnoxious. I made the mistake of installing it by mistake thinking that I was just updating my drivers and it prompty took over my computer. Bloatware deluxe.

If I remember correctly, I just ran an uninstall on it and got rid of it. There were options to remove the Control Center extras but not the video card drivers, etc.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla Blitz

This might be a stupid suggestion, and sorry if you've already mentioned this, but you did uninstall the Control Center, correct? There is an ATI Software Utility Uninstall in the Add/Remove programs list on my computer, and I believe you can selectively uninstall components of the Control Center from there.

And yes, That ATI Control Center software is friggin' obnoxious. I made the mistake of installing it by mistake thinking that I was just updating my drivers and it prompty took over my computer.

If I remember correctly, I just ran an uninstall on it and got rid of it. There was a way to remove the Control Center but not the video card drivers, etc.

That is an excellent suggestion. I see that as a seperate program under add/remove program. My virus scan is almost complete. I'm going to try this first. If this still doesn't work, I'll try jb's suggestion.

jbmagic · 03-21-2006, 10:32 PM

The ATI Software Utility is running in the background when starting your computer.

My solution will not have it load up on startup.

After that you will be good to go. It won't affect your video card at all.

You can always get to your ATI Software Utility by going to program/start anytime you need to access it.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 10:39 PM

Well darn. I uninstalled the Catalyst control center, and it still tried to install it when I put in the oblivion disc.. Trying jbmagic's recommendation now.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 10:44 PM

Dola -

Even after altering the msconfig file and rebooting like jbmagic said, it still tried to install the catalyst file

I give up. I'm just going to try the workaround.

GrantDawg · 03-21-2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Dola -

Even after altering the msconfig file and rebooting like jbmagic said, it still tried to install the catalyst file

I give up. I'm just going to try the workaround.

I'm sorry to hear that. I had the same problem in the past and like I said before the only way I got rid of it is erasing the ATI instal files, but I can't for the life of me remember where they were.

GrantDawg · 03-21-2006, 10:49 PM

Dola: There might have also been a registery change necessary.

jbmagic · 03-21-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Dola -

Even after altering the msconfig file and rebooting like jbmagic said, it still tried to install the catalyst file

I give up. I'm just going to try the workaround.

Damn

This is very odd.

hukarez · 03-21-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Dola -

Even after altering the msconfig file and rebooting like jbmagic said, it still tried to install the catalyst file

I give up. I'm just going to try the workaround.

I've always used this:

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/D...737&deptID=894

GrantDawg · 03-21-2006, 10:57 PM

Try looking (with hidden files viewed) at C:\Documents and Settings\*your profile*\Local Settings\Temp, and see if there is still an ATI install there.

sabotai · 03-21-2006, 10:58 PM

For some reason, when your computer is running the Autorun, instead of going to the setup.exe file on your CD, it sounds like it's being redirected somewhere else....that's just weird.

Do a search on your C drive (and other hard drives) for any setup.exe files and see what comes up. You should be able to delete any that come up. (But, just on the safe side, I wouldn't delete anything in any WINDOWS\ folders)

Antmeister · 03-21-2006, 11:02 PM

Try this.

Right click on your CD/DVD Rom and select Properties. Click the Autoplay tab. Go through the combo box to see if somehow ATI is being activated.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 11:19 PM

Trying these suggestions now, and I really appreciate them. I'm frustrated by my lack of ability to solve this problem, but when I clicked on the setup icon, the game installed very smoothly.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-21-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

For some reason, when your computer is running the Autorun, instead of going to the setup.exe file on your CD, it sounds like it's being redirected somewhere else....that's just weird.

Do a search on your C drive (and other hard drives) for any setup.exe files and see what comes up. You should be able to delete any that come up. (But, just on the safe side, I wouldn't delete anything in any WINDOWS\ folders)

The search detected 106 files called Setup.exe!

:o

12 of them were ATI related. All of the ones that aren't in a windows folder are now getting deleted. Then, I need to find a game I haven't installed on this new computer just to see if that cured the problem.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-22-2006, 12:02 AM

Double Dola -

Thanks everyone. I can go to bed in a bit knowing the problem is solved. Deleting all of those setup files seems to have done the trick, and I'm a bit embarassed I didn't think of doing that search myself. I just installed Real War (one of my worst purchases in the past few years.) At least the game was useful for this test, as it installed with autoplay without a problem.

I just tried 5 minutes of Oblivion and the game looks incredible on my computer, but I don't dare start for real this late as I have to get up early and I'm sure a "half hour" session could quickly become a 3 hour session.

Izulde · 03-22-2006, 12:15 AM

Question,

Will Oblivion's PC version work with some type of gamepad? If so, what one?

Qwikshot · 03-22-2006, 05:36 AM

Well, I played briefly yesterday, and was pleasantly surprised. My computer is on the lowest setting right now and sometimes "hiccups".

I hate when you have to accompany someone, they always hop in front of you when you melee attack...it's more fun alone.

Just made it to the sewers and I'm quite happy so far...but I know it'll be important to take a disciplined approach so that I don't lose days from work, eating and sleeping.

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 07:48 AM

Btw, anyone experiment with HDR vs. Bloom & 4x AA? I tried the later, but didn't play enough to notice how much better the graphical quality was, because I missed the cool lighting effects of HDR too much.

PraetorianX · 03-22-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

Yep, that's what I've heard as well since the release. People are reporting that a 6800 will recommend HIGH but not VERY HIGH. And I'm seeing that a 6600 is being recommended at MEDIUM. So as long as you don't need everything maxed out, it sounds like a 6800 or even a 6600 will be fine. It's good to hear that the lower-mid level cards can run the game well.

I have a 6800 and the game recommended Very High, and is running brilliantly. Once in awhile, during battles with several NPC's, it might lag slightly...other than that it's great though.

BTW, anybody else a bit dissapointed that horses can't be moved like your character? I was hoping that I could just turn the mouse which way I wanted to go and be off...but you have to use the 'A' and 'D' buttons instead to turn it...I just find it annoying and don't ride my horse as much now.

But as for the rest of the game, it's awesome so far. I agree that some tooltips would help understand the interface a bit easier, but after looking through the manual (a rare thing for me) I figured it out, and now I quite like it. Combat is still taking some getting used to, but I think I like it overall. I especially like spellcasting, I've been blowing rats and scamps away all night with my flares, yay fun.

I should have called in sick today,

TroyF · 03-22-2006, 08:22 AM

I picked up the game for the 360 last night. Played an hour or so and I am very impressed. Graphics are top notch and I like the voice acting. I still haven't made my way out of the dungeons yet. I can't wait to see the town.

FWIW, I grabbed the game for the 360 because I stare at a computer screen 8-10 hours a day and really would rather stare at the 51" HD if I'm going to have extended sessions with a graphics based game.

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 08:39 AM

Btw, for those wondering how the game will play, check out this link from the official forums (2nd post in):

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/i...ic=270923&st=0

It is comprehensive look on how you'll be able to play with different video cards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PraetorianX

BTW, anybody else a bit dissapointed that horses can't be moved like your character? I was hoping that I could just turn the mouse which way I wanted to go and be off...but you have to use the 'A' and 'D' buttons instead to turn it...I just find it annoying and don't ride my horse as much now.

Well horses can't exactly walk sideways that easily, can they?

I actually like it. It feels more like riding a horse (like the A and D keys are you putting your leg on the horse in that direction).

Riding the horse I can't imagine that I walked (well, ran) everywhere in Morrowind!

Yossarian · 03-22-2006, 08:46 AM

In morrowind I ended up ruining the game for myself because I played all the side quests and then when I went back to the main one, I was too powerful and got bored of all the quests.

That's by the by but re: trasportation, I fashioned myself a super powerful amulet with that special soul trap thing that makes the effect be permanent (as opposed to a limited quantity of uses). Anyway, the effet on the amulet was a major big jump and I could literally jump about one third of the map in one go. With a runny, I'd jump and see clouds and then just sort of fog and 'loading' screens for a minute while my map showed my speeding.

eventually i'd land with a crunch but no major damage cause at that point i was quite well built up.

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 12:31 PM

LOL! Man, reading the official forums are a TRIP! There is as much whining over unfinished game and needs patches than any other game I've seen (and I thought complaints about SMAC and CivIV were the top end!!). And you have people RETURNING the game because they think the interface is to 'console like' and hate it because of that. I'm utterly amazed. People are so strange.

jeff061 · 03-22-2006, 12:31 PM

Most official forums are like that, I avoid them like the plague.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-22-2006, 01:25 PM

I only played VERY briefly last night, but I loved the interface from what little I saw.

Blade6119 · 03-22-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister71

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Blizzard is the only instant buy for me. EVERY one of their games is top of the line...i really didnt think WOW would be, but it has blown by expectations to become by far the most popular MMORPG...SI is up there nowadays, with FM and EHM...gotta wait to see on OOTP before i declare them #2 though

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I only played VERY briefly last night, but I loved the interface from what little I saw.

Same here. It takes a bit to get used to it, but its really nicely done... and I love the 'ancient document' feel to it.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-22-2006, 03:23 PM

To answer the question of HDR vs Bloom and AA. My nice almost new ATI card doesn't support HDR apparently

Therefore, I'm using Bloom with 6x AA and it looked great in those few minutes I played tonight. I can't wait to get home from work in a few hours and play some more since Mrs. Eaglesfan has to work late tonight.

Godzilla Blitz · 03-22-2006, 06:06 PM

I am swamped with work, so of course I went and bought it this afternoon.

Loaded it up this afternoon and just spent a half hour exploring the first dungeon.

So far it seems to run great on my modest set up:
P4 2.6
Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb
2gb RAM

Detected Medium settings. I turned up the resoltion to 800 by 600, and turned off shadows altogether.

Very quick initial impressions:

Wow! Very impressed.
Beautiful graphics and rich gameplay.

Antmeister · 03-22-2006, 06:22 PM

Interesting....

They have this game available for direct download at Direct2Drive. Has anyone ever used this service?
http://www.direct2drive.com/376/prod...vion-w/-Manual

Brillig · 03-22-2006, 07:34 PM

Good and bad - I love the graphics, everyone's right when they say that they're amazing. I haven't really noticed any lighting problem. Although I haven't made it out of the sewers yet.

Still, there are a number of rather annoying niggles. Like not being able to turn off head-bobbing, for example. Or the inability to map turning to keys. And why did they limit you to eight hot-keys? Hasn't anyone figured out yet that sorting save games by character is a *good* idea? Etc...

In spite of any lingering annoyances, though, I'm sure I'm going to be playing this for quite a while. If only I could stop playing with the character creator long enough to make it out of the sewer...

Schmidty · 03-22-2006, 08:05 PM

Just got it, and played for an hour before dinner.

Holy crap. This thing is rocking my world already.

jbmagic · 03-22-2006, 08:07 PM

Is the game challenging? how good is the AI you fight?

ISiddiqui · 03-22-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

To answer the question of HDR vs Bloom and AA. My nice almost new ATI card doesn't support HDR apparently

Therefore, I'm using Bloom with 6x AA and it looked great in those few minutes I played tonight. I can't wait to get home from work in a few hours and play some more since Mrs. Eaglesfan has to work late tonight.

I picked HDR. 4x AA looks really great, but HDR, while perhaps not as smooth, has a WOW factor that is hard to beat. The lighting does look very realistic. It's amazing.

03-21-2006, 05:35 PM	#101
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	If anyone can help, I'll greatly appreciate it. I've tried every trick I know to delete these darn temp files. I've gotten rid of almost everyone, but Norton states there are a few left and for some reason it won't delete them. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-21-2006, 05:40 PM	#102
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	#!%! I thought I figured out the problem. I found the numbered files in Windows' temp folder. I deleted them. I'm still getting the ATI Catalyst when I attempt to autoplay the DVD for this game! __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-21-2006, 07:43 PM	#104
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Wow... what a great game. Graphics are top notch. I'm running it on Very High with a resolution of 12801024 and it's running really nice. The 'realistic' lighting is from HDR. Though using that means I can't use anti-aliasing, and I'm going to play around to see what looks the best. Though I think just having HDR rather than AA will make it far more impressive. The gameplay is similar, but the Imperial City is freaking awesome! Much bigger and better than any city in Morrowind. I'm exploring that rather than doing my main quest at the moment . Lots of shops and lots of people around (each with great facial graphics and voice acting). With the main menu screen and the beginning of the new campaign it also makes it FEEL like you are walking into something EPIC. The music, the Patrick Stewart voice over, the ancient looking menus. Just wonderful. I'm impressed so far. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams Last edited by ISiddiqui : 03-21-2006 at 08:01 PM.*

03-21-2006, 09:35 PM	#109
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'll try that to see if it works in a little bit, jbmagic. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-21-2006, 10:39 PM	#120
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Well darn. I uninstalled the Catalyst control center, and it still tried to install it when I put in the oblivion disc.. Trying jbmagic's recommendation now. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-21-2006, 08:01 PM	#105
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I cannot wait to get this for my birthday (Friday). Woot!

03-21-2006, 09:18 PM	#107
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	I like the fact that you can't sell stolen goods to just any store. You have to find a fence to sell them.

03-21-2006, 09:23 PM	#108
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Really tried to resist this one, but I might as well just give up. I'll likely get this in the next couple of days.

03-21-2006, 10:07 PM	#112
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Aestus the Master Thief has risen. Oh yes. Hint to all those who follow in my footsteps....stealing wine rocks.

03-21-2006, 10:29 PM	#116
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Eaglefan27 Yep You will be good to go once you do it.

03-21-2006, 10:32 PM	#119
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	The ATI Software Utility is running in the background when starting your computer. My solution will not have it load up on startup. After that you will be good to go. It won't affect your video card at all. You can always get to your ATI Software Utility by going to program/start anytime you need to access it.

03-21-2006, 10:44 PM	#121
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Even after altering the msconfig file and rebooting like jbmagic said, it still tried to install the catalyst file I give up. I'm just going to try the workaround. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-21-2006 at 10:44 PM.

03-21-2006, 10:49 PM	#123
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Dola: There might have also been a registery change necessary.

03-21-2006, 10:57 PM	#126
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Try looking (with hidden files viewed) at C:\Documents and Settings\your profile\Local Settings\Temp, and see if there is still an ATI install there.

03-21-2006, 10:58 PM	#127
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	For some reason, when your computer is running the Autorun, instead of going to the setup.exe file on your CD, it sounds like it's being redirected somewhere else....that's just weird. Do a search on your C drive (and other hard drives) for any setup.exe files and see what comes up. You should be able to delete any that come up. (But, just on the safe side, I wouldn't delete anything in any WINDOWS\ folders)

03-21-2006, 11:02 PM	#128
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Try this. Right click on your CD/DVD Rom and select Properties. Click the Autoplay tab. Go through the combo box to see if somehow ATI is being activated. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

03-21-2006, 11:19 PM	#129
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Trying these suggestions now, and I really appreciate them. I'm frustrated by my lack of ability to solve this problem, but when I clicked on the setup icon, the game installed very smoothly. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-22-2006, 12:02 AM	#131
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Double Dola - Thanks everyone. I can go to bed in a bit knowing the problem is solved. Deleting all of those setup files seems to have done the trick, and I'm a bit embarassed I didn't think of doing that search myself. I just installed Real War (one of my worst purchases in the past few years.) At least the game was useful for this test, as it installed with autoplay without a problem. I just tried 5 minutes of Oblivion and the game looks incredible on my computer, but I don't dare start for real this late as I have to get up early and I'm sure a "half hour" session could quickly become a 3 hour session. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-22-2006, 12:15 AM	#132
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Question, Will Oblivion's PC version work with some type of gamepad? If so, what one? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

03-22-2006, 05:36 AM	#133
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Well, I played briefly yesterday, and was pleasantly surprised. My computer is on the lowest setting right now and sometimes "hiccups". I hate when you have to accompany someone, they always hop in front of you when you melee attack...it's more fun alone. Just made it to the sewers and I'm quite happy so far...but I know it'll be important to take a disciplined approach so that I don't lose days from work, eating and sleeping. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

03-22-2006, 07:48 AM	#134
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Btw, anyone experiment with HDR vs. Bloom & 4x AA? I tried the later, but didn't play enough to notice how much better the graphical quality was, because I missed the cool lighting effects of HDR too much. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-22-2006, 08:22 AM	#136
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I picked up the game for the 360 last night. Played an hour or so and I am very impressed. Graphics are top notch and I like the voice acting. I still haven't made my way out of the dungeons yet. I can't wait to see the town. FWIW, I grabbed the game for the 360 because I stare at a computer screen 8-10 hours a day and really would rather stare at the 51" HD if I'm going to have extended sessions with a graphics based game.

03-22-2006, 08:46 AM	#138
Yossarian High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2003	In morrowind I ended up ruining the game for myself because I played all the side quests and then when I went back to the main one, I was too powerful and got bored of all the quests. That's by the by but re: trasportation, I fashioned myself a super powerful amulet with that special soul trap thing that makes the effect be permanent (as opposed to a limited quantity of uses). Anyway, the effet on the amulet was a major big jump and I could literally jump about one third of the map in one go. With a runny, I'd jump and see clouds and then just sort of fog and 'loading' screens for a minute while my map showed my speeding. eventually i'd land with a crunch but no major damage cause at that point i was quite well built up.

03-22-2006, 12:31 PM	#139
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	LOL! Man, reading the official forums are a TRIP! There is as much whining over unfinished game and needs patches than any other game I've seen (and I thought complaints about SMAC and CivIV were the top end!!). And you have people RETURNING the game because they think the interface is to 'console like' and hate it because of that. I'm utterly amazed. People are so strange. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-22-2006, 12:31 PM	#140
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Most official forums are like that, I avoid them like the plague. __________________

03-22-2006, 01:25 PM	#141
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I only played VERY briefly last night, but I loved the interface from what little I saw. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-22-2006, 03:23 PM	#144
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	To answer the question of HDR vs Bloom and AA. My nice almost new ATI card doesn't support HDR apparently Therefore, I'm using Bloom with 6x AA and it looked great in those few minutes I played tonight. I can't wait to get home from work in a few hours and play some more since Mrs. Eaglesfan has to work late tonight. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 03-22-2006 at 03:24 PM.

03-22-2006, 06:06 PM	#145
Godzilla Blitz College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I am swamped with work, so of course I went and bought it this afternoon. Loaded it up this afternoon and just spent a half hour exploring the first dungeon. So far it seems to run great on my modest set up: P4 2.6 Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb 2gb RAM Detected Medium settings. I turned up the resoltion to 800 by 600, and turned off shadows altogether. Very quick initial impressions: Wow! Very impressed. Beautiful graphics and rich gameplay.

03-22-2006, 06:22 PM	#146
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Interesting.... They have this game available for direct download at Direct2Drive. Has anyone ever used this service? http://www.direct2drive.com/376/prod...vion-w/-Manual __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

03-22-2006, 07:34 PM	#147
Brillig College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mountain View, California	Good and bad - I love the graphics, everyone's right when they say that they're amazing. I haven't really noticed any lighting problem. Although I haven't made it out of the sewers yet. Still, there are a number of rather annoying niggles. Like not being able to turn off head-bobbing, for example. Or the inability to map turning to keys. And why did they limit you to eight hot-keys? Hasn't anyone figured out yet that sorting save games by character is a good idea? Etc... In spite of any lingering annoyances, though, I'm sure I'm going to be playing this for quite a while. If only I could stop playing with the character creator long enough to make it out of the sewer...

03-22-2006, 08:05 PM	#148
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Just got it, and played for an hour before dinner. Holy crap. This thing is rocking my world already. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-22-2006, 08:07 PM	#149
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Is the game challenging? how good is the AI you fight?

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