12-01-2016, 07:16 PM | #101 | |
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I know the pay would be nice, but not sure if Baylor is a situation a coach is going to recover from easily. They're down to 50 scholarship players after this year's graduating class and I doubt that's the only attrition we see. They also only have 1 player committed currently. They're going to pay well so they'll get someone better than they should, but whoever it is may have to walk on water just to make that team competitive in the near future. |
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12-01-2016, 07:24 PM | #102 | |
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12-01-2016, 07:58 PM | #103 |
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At the time of my comment, it appeared he was fired largely on the basis of a few player interviews. If he chose to step aside due to "philosophical differences", that's a different situation.
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12-01-2016, 10:26 PM | #104 | |
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He walked away from a $2.5 million buyout with $540k. They had something on him. |
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12-01-2016, 10:39 PM | #105 | |
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I can imagine being $2m worth of fed up with admins honestly. Their own outside investigation cleared any misconduct (if we're to believe what I've read anyway), so this looks like it comes down to they wanted to tell him how to do his job. Not sure that's worth $2m.
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12-02-2016, 11:45 AM | #106 |
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Brohm to Purdue is being reported.
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12-02-2016, 11:48 AM | #107 |
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Thats a great hire for Quarterback U.
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12-02-2016, 11:49 AM | #108 |
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12-02-2016, 12:22 PM | #111 |
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Sounds like it's not 100% done but should be soon.
I prefer Brohm to Fleck. It's a shallow pool of coaches this year and getting Brohm is as good as it can get for Purdue. |
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12-02-2016, 12:30 PM | #113 |
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I don't see Purdue as an upgrade, when he's already built up Western Michigan. Seems like he should go somewhere he can build back up quickly. WKU to Purdue makes a lot more sense as an upgrade.
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12-02-2016, 12:34 PM | #114 | |
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Purdue is a huge upgrade over the MAC. A couple of average seasons at Western Michigan and the Oregons and other schools aren't interested anymore. A couple of. 500 years at Purdue and he's still a hot name thats proven himself at the p5 level. |
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12-02-2016, 12:47 PM | #115 | |
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I had agreed with what you wrote but then looked into it some more...did you know Danny Hope got fired by Purdue after doing exactly that - going .500 in his final two years? They won their bowl game in 2011 to go to 7-6, and he got fired before the 2012 bowl game. Still don't disagree; it's a tough job in an even tougher conference than it was a few years back. At least he'd be in the right division. But damn...hard to please out there. BTW Hope didn't coach again until ended up at USF as their OL coach in 2015. Last edited by Logan : 12-02-2016 at 12:47 PM. |
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12-02-2016, 12:51 PM | #116 |
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I completely disagree with Atoceps assessment. It's a 6 or 7 team hill to climb in the Big 10, and those are 6 or 7 teams that are at the top of the mountain. If Purdue is his end game for the next 6-7 years than I guess that's fine, but if he wants more than Purdue in that time frame, he should aim higher or stay put.
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Even with that in consideration the G5 jobs just aren't set up to have sustained success and you have to strike when you're hot. Boise is an exception. Fleck can definitely do better as far as jobs go, but Purdue is still an upgrade. If they were in the other big 10 division I wouldn't touch the job. Last edited by Atocep : 12-02-2016 at 12:58 PM. |
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12-02-2016, 12:57 PM | #118 |
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My bad. Yeah, I guess division wise he could probably contend within 3 years.
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12-02-2016, 01:06 PM | #119 | |
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Agreed. The only exceptions are schools that have a ton of money/resources to possibly keep on contending from the G5 slots. If Herman stayed at Houston, if Morris keeps on improving SMU...they have enough donor money to stay relevant and keep coaches. I don't think WMU fits that. Fleck would have had better opportunities than Purdue (but below Oregon) if circumstances changed where either last year's openings were free this year, or if his WMU timeline was pushed up a year. There were a bunch of P5 openings in the midwest and he would have been a slam dunk hire for Rutgers as he was an assistant here previously. Same probably goes for Maryland. |
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12-02-2016, 01:38 PM | #120 | |
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I like this pool of young coaches better than most years recently. Herman, Fleck, Brohm, and Taggart are young and have won at the G5 level pretty consistently. There's another group behind them in Morris, Frost, Creighton and a few others (Nick Rolovich?) who may be getting a look soon. |
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12-02-2016, 01:57 PM | #121 | |
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Off-the-field stuff -- a lot of which has never come out to my knowledge. Highlights include blowing off big boosters, no-showing at community outreach events, failed player drug tests with no repercussions, and separate rules for players based on whether you were in or out of the dog house (i.e. you don't have to practice today because coach likes you, but everyone else runs extra kind of bullshit). Some of the inmates were running the asylum, so they had to fire him.
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They way I look at it is if the WVU job had opened this offseason would any of those guys excite me? Herman was waiting for Texas so I don't really count him. WVU checked in on him last offseason and he made that clear. After that there isn't a single guy out there right now that I'd get excited about hiring. With Oregon and Texas taking the top 2 coaches out there it isn't a good year to be searching for a coach IMO. It was smart for Purdue to get an early start and grab Brohm when they could. If the Mississippi State job and some other comparable jobs start to open up I'm not sure there's enough good hires out there. |
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Who are the hot Coordinators? Are there any?
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12-02-2016, 04:01 PM | #124 |
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A little surprised Justin Wilcox's name isn't getting tossed around a bit more.
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I've never seen a statement like the one Houston released regarding Art Briles. Dude is toxic.
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Taggart and Harsin both interviewed with Oregon. Tony Dungy publicly backed Taggart, but his results on turning around two programs at WKU and now USF isn't too bad. Would be interesting to see what he could do with Nike bucks.
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I'd like to see what Taggart could do there as well. His Florida area ties should help recruiting.
I wonder how much longer it will be before a bigger program looks at Matt Rhule. Back-to-back 10 win years at Temple is pretty impressive. |
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Tommy Tuberville resigned from Cincinnati.
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12-05-2016, 10:56 AM | #133 |
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Brohm to Purdue official.
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Sounds like he is going to Baylor.
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Yeah, I hadn't heard his name mentioned at all in connection to Baylor until the hiring was announced.
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While I doubt it happens, would be funny to see that on the heels of Rhule to Baylor as he was seen as the guy to follow Franklin when that seat got warm. |
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12-06-2016, 12:33 PM | #139 |
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12-06-2016, 10:28 PM | #140 |
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At this point, I'd be somewhat surprised to see Franklin leave Penn State. I say somewhat because you never know what is going on behind the scenes but...
He's got recruiting going better than it has been at Penn State since I can remember, certainly better than the last decade of Paterno's tenure. After going through the first two years of barely over .500 winning, and dealing with the last of the sanction depth issues, it seems like they've turned the corner. Winning the B1G this year was probably a season or two earlier than could have been realistically expected. The team is pretty well set for next year. On offense, the only starter that won't have eligibility next year is the center. Everyone else can come back. Barkley can't leave until after next year and other than maybe Chris Godwin I don't think any of the rest of them are either ready, or good enough, to declare for the draft. Maybe Gesicki, but he had a terrible season in 2015 so he might be counseled to come back for his sr year and prove this year wasn't a fluke. On defense, only starters Evan Schwan, Brandon Bell, and Malik Golden are out of eligibility. Bigger risk to them for next season is if OC Joe Moorehead leaves. Never heard of him before he was hired, but he's been a perfect fit. I don't think Rhule was viewed as Franklin's successor. |
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I would never say never, but that would be hard for me to envision too. It's not his alma mater, but it's basically his own back yard and it seems like he's going to recruit well there. I don't see what would be in it for him to move to Oregon.
edit: yeah, other than money, but I kinda think PSU would be able to cover that, too
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Yeah, seems like wishful thinking on the part of Oregon. I don't see any chance Franklin would ditch Penn State for the Ducks.
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12-06-2016, 10:51 PM | #143 |
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Oh yeah - I can imagine a few people giving him hell for it if he jumped, too.
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12-07-2016, 07:37 AM | #144 |
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Taggart to Oregon.
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12-07-2016, 08:43 AM | #145 |
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Franklin's people earning him a raise as I dont think Oregon had him as a candidate either way. I know the dream was Chip, but that was a tough call, he needed to do a Petrino and that wasn't going to happen, so they couldnt risk waiting too much longer. Taggert is a good fit, though expecting him to reach a Chip level of dominance in the PNW is foolish, UW fans can rest at ease
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I don't see him looking good in Nike apparel, while working up a "Number 6"
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I dont see Taggart as a PNW guy.I hope I am wrong because I like him a lot. Had dinner with he and his wife earlier this year, actually. Great guy.
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12-07-2016, 11:32 AM | #148 |
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Figured he had some connections there from his time at Stanford.
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Taggart is an intriguing hire for them. I expect he'll recruit well. The bigger question is what he'll be able to do with that talent. Be interesting to see what kind of staff he builds too.
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