Brett Favre Retirement Tour: Part Deux

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

This, plus Stafford, plus Cutler is going to make the NFC Central the DRAMA Central Division. Love it!

The quarterback landscape will be shockingly different than it was last year. Last year, before the season began, I remember how everyone kept talking about how the Lions had the best quarterback in that division: Jon Kitna.

They were wrong, but still.

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Seriously. You really have no good excuse. It's right for you to feel shame.

Eight-month old? Can I plead for leniency considering the extenuating circumstances?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Eight-month old? Can I plead for leniency considering the extenuating circumstances?

We have reviewed your application.

Motion GRANTED.

You may now proceed shame free.

In fact, based on all of these extenuating circumstances, I think it's that jerk Passacaglia who should be feeling shame. Picking on an exhausted hockey fan posting at 1:00 am and the father of a new born like that. Now that's just shameful.... Shameful.

APOLOGIES WILL BE ACCEPTED THANK YOU

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

What will really be funny is when Favre plays like crap in the first 4 games, but the Vikings are 4-0 behind AP's running, we'll see a bunch of crap praising Favre for his leadership and knowing "how to win".

They won't give AP the ball enough for that to happen...

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

They won't give AP the ball enough for that to happen...

Exactly. Brad Childress is still their coach, after all.

[Logan]

I realize the world might implode if I complete this thought, but yeah I think I'd rather have Sage Rosenfels than Favre at this point (as long as he promises to never try to dive over a pile of defenders while protecting a lead).

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Logan

I realize the world might implode if I complete this thought, but yeah I think I'd rather have Sage Rosenfels than Favre at this point (as long as he promises to never try to dive over a pile of defenders while protecting a lead).

Come on, what's not to like about a 40-year old with a torn bicep slinging the ball around the field while AP sits idly by?

[PilotMan]

Brett Favre is teh gretest eva. Hes betr thn evry1.

[Kodos]

Favre 4 Lyfe!

[kurtism]

A Vikings fan (and certified Favre-hater) with his take on Brett in the Twin Cities (language nsfw): hxxp://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html

[sooner333]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

They won't give AP the ball enough for that to happen...

I think the probably give him the ball the right amount of times if they plan on making the playoffs. Taylor is too good to not get the ball and risk wearing out Peterson. It's AD, btw.

[stevew]

Trade Taylor and a 3rd or 4th for braylon. Then let papa Favre work his magic.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by kurtism

A Vikings fan (and certified Favre-hater) with his take on Brett in the Twin Cities (language nsfw): hxxp://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/05/f-k-you-brett-favre.html

That was well done.

[PackerFanatic]

Source: Favre rebuffs Vikings, will stay retired - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

This thing is just so out of whack now - everyone wants to get that first big story, everyone is just canceling each other out and we have no idea who to believe. Damn media...

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Source: Favre rebuffs Vikings, will stay retired - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

This thing is just so out of whack now - everyone wants to get that first big story, everyone is just canceling each other out and we have no idea who to believe. Damn media...

Dear Brad Childress,

You're screwed.

If the Vikings axe Childress and can get a solid game manager type QB in the draft they could be an interesting team to watch.

[stevew]

I think Sage will outperform what Favre did in 2008. I plan on getting him on as many of my fantasy teams as possible.

[Fighter of Foo]

Originally Posted by stevew

I think Sage will outperform what Favre did in 2008. I plan on getting him on as many of my fantasy teams as possible.

Hope it's not -2 points for turnovers. And that you have a good backup because there is close to zero chance of him playing a full 16 games.

[Julio Riddols]

With the way Tarvaris Jackson played in the last 4 games last season, what IDIOT would want Sage ROSENFAIL as a starting QB?

Have some damn faith in the guy. Nobody knew wtf you were doing drafting him in round 2, now put your speculation to the test. He has played well, IMO. Very well considering the talent he has had to throw to.

Sacked only 14 times, threw only 2 picks in 9 games on 149 attempts. Rating of 95.4 in his second season as the true starter (although it was cut by the injury issue) When he was allowed to sit and watch due to the injury, he came back and performed like a pro bowler in the last 4 games.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

With the way Tarvaris Jackson played in the last 4 games last season, what IDIOT would want Sage ROSENFAIL as a starting QB?

Have some damn faith in the guy. Nobody knew wtf you were doing drafting him in round 2, now put your speculation to the test. He has played well, IMO. Very well considering the talent he has had to throw to.

Sacked only 14 times, threw only 2 picks in 9 games on 149 attempts. Rating of 95.4 in his second season as the true starter (although it was cut by the injury issue) When he was allowed to sit and watch due to the injury, he came back and performed like a pro bowler in the last 4 games.

I kind of agree.

[Jas_lov]

BRETT FAVRE UPDATE:

Brett Favre's health a factor in whether he might join Minnesota Vikings - ESPN

Favre has sent X-Rays to the Vikings and he is eager to play for the Vikings this year. Here's is Favre primary motivation for returning:

According to Schaap's source, Favre is motivated to continue his career, in part due to his disdain for Packers' management, and that he is eager to play again in the NFC North, where he would have the chance to exact a measure of revenge against the franchise he spent 16 seasons with.

[terpkristin]

What would X-rays show? I thought he had a torn bicep/bicep tendon?

/tk

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

What would X-rays show? I thought he had a torn bicep/bicep tendon?

/tk

Not my area of expertise, but I was wondering the same thing. Sounds like one more BS rumor floating around out there.

[Jas_lov]

The story says that the Vikings medical staff will determine if Favre needs major surgery or not. If he does, he will stay retired. If he doesn't, he will turn his back on the Green Bay Packers franchise forever. Favre obviously wants to play, but he doesn't want to embarrass him self like he did last year.

[terpkristin]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Not my area of expertise, but I was wondering the same thing. Sounds like one more BS rumor floating around out there.

Thinking on it, I think BS rumor floating around is possible, but it might be that the reporting is just not right, either. I mean, it could be he sent MRI films and X-rays or CT films and they're just lumping it all as X-rays.

Kinda how people are saying Manny tested positive, but there have been conflicting reports on that. Some say he tested positive for something, some say he didn't test positive but that test results yielded further investigation that uncovered his use of HCG.

I think this is all news is just covering up the fact that by and large, the NBA playoffs haven't been that interesting (aside from the crazy Bulls/Celtics series).

/tk

[duckman]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The story says that the Vikings medical staff will determine if Favre needs major surgery or not. If he does, he will stay retired. If he doesn't, he will turn his back on the Green Bay Packers franchise forever. Favre obviously wants to play, but he doesn't want to embarrass him self like he did last year.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

Thinking on it, I think BS rumor floating around is possible, but it might be that the reporting is just not right, either. I mean, it could be he sent MRI films and X-rays or CT films and they're just lumping it all as X-rays.

Kinda how people are saying Manny tested positive, but there have been conflicting reports on that. Some say he tested positive for something, some say he didn't test positive but that test results yielded further investigation that uncovered his use of HCG.

I think this is all news is just covering up the fact that by and large, the NBA playoffs haven't been that interesting (aside from the crazy Bulls/Celtics series).

/tk

I definitely thought of that as a possibility. Lay people get X-rays and MRI's frequently confused. I guess it would be foolish of me to expect reporters to keep them straight.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Favre obviously wants to play, but he doesn't want to embarrass him self like he did last year.

Class, this is what we call a contradiction.

[Passacaglia]

Maybe he's just using the Vikings to figure out if he needs surgery..

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by terpkristin

What would X-rays show? I thought he had a torn bicep/bicep tendon?

/tk

[terpkristin]

Report: Brett Favre expected to undergo surgery on biceps tendon - ESPN

Seeing Dr. Andrews is almost never a good sign, though this article says that the surgery recovery would be 6-8 weeks. I guess I have no idea on the extent of his injury (or the exact nature) or what this surgery will accomplish, but hey, if it's what he wants...

/tk

[Cringer]

The recovery time wouldn't be a big deal. It is not like he would ever go to OTA's or minicamps anyways, no matter how much the Vikes begged him to do so.

[Jas_lov]

It's official then, he's coming back as a Viking soley for revenge. He will get heavily booed when he returns to Lambeau and I can't wait to watch Favre embarrass himself.

[ColtCrazy]

If I were Packers management, the second Favre becomes a Viking, I would have the punter change his number to 4...just to see all of Packer Nation use duct tape on their Favre jerseys.

If management would just dive in and play Favre's revenge game, this could get fun.

And then we can all get a laugh when the Bears when the division anyway.

[Senator]

Come on back, we don't mind at all.

[Arles]

I don't see Brett helping the Vikes anymore than he helped the Jets last season. By late season, Thomas Jo... err, Adrian Peterson will be wondering why he doesn't get more touches and Kerry Rhod..., um make that Chad Greenway will be wondering why the team keeps throwing and giving up game-killing turnovers.

Favre is what he is - a QB with the mind/confidence of a 22-year old and the body of a 40-year old. Maybe it ends well for Minnesota, but I don't see it ending any better than it did in New York.

[Matthean]

Brett has to pray that the Vikings win home field throughout the playoffs, or get friendly away playoff games because we all know what he's like in a cold game in January. Dec. 28 @ Chicago should be fun.

[Arles]

Source: Brett Favre surgery not imminent after all - ESPN

Contrary to reports, Brett Favre does not have an appointment with Dr. James Andrews on Tuesday and doesn't consider surgery on his partially torn biceps tendon to be imminent, according to a source.

Favre discussed surgical and non-surgical options with Andrews last week, as ESPN has reported.

Citing unnamed sources, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported that Favre was to meet with Andrews on Tuesday in Birmingham, Alabama, to discuss surgery on his throwing shoulder and that the procedure was expected to be performed later this week.

Favre, however, remains focused on non-surgical options, including cortisone injections and natural movements like light throwing and bicep curls that might cause the tendon to release naturally, the source told ESPN. If the tendon releases and the pain subsides, Favre is virtually certain to play again. If he has surgery and his arm strength diminishes or the pain remains, he will remain retired, the source said.

At 39, Favre believes the less he has to do to correct the problem the better as he believes he still possesses the arm strength he had 10 years ago. The difference now is the injury is causing pain. According to the source, Favre will return to the NFL to play for the Minnesota Vikings if the tendon ruptures and it makes him pain-free. If he submits to arthroscopic surgery and it fails to resolve the problem, then Favre intends to remain retired.

Either way, Favre is losing patience, causing the source to say the shoulder problem must be overcome soon or Favre is likely to abandon his effort to play a 19th NFL season.

The more I read of this, the more it sounds like someone who isn't 100% dedicated to coming back but doesn't want to retire. I think I understand it - Favre feels wronged by the Packers and wanted to leave the team completely on his terms and wants to keep playing as long as he can. Still, it's a fairly benign surgery and the recovery/rehab is 6-8 weeks tops. So, if he's unwilling to go through that, how willing will he be to stay in top physical and mental shape for a 16-game season. The bolded part is exactly what I stated two posts above and this "belief" of Favre's could make 2009 a bit of a disaster.

As someone who wants to remember Favre as the QB he was from 1992 until 2007, I hope he takes this out and retires before he does any more damage to his already teetering legacy.

[RainMaker]

I actually think it would be great drama to see him comeback. But I also know it would make ESPN unwatchable for the next 6 months.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I actually think it would be great drama to see him comeback. But I also know it would make ESPN unwatchable for the next 6 months.

At least Tony Kornheiser is off of MNF, that should help some.

[Matthean]

Sports Radio Interviews » Blog Archive » That’s Incredible! A Former Player That Isn’t A Fan of Brett Favre’s

[Jas_lov]

FYI- Favre is NOT expected to announce his return to the NFL as a Minnesota Viking tonight on Joe Buck's new show on HBO at 9 PM ET. How did Joe Buck get his own show? I don't know, but it's pretty much guaranteed to suck.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by ColtCrazy

If I were Packers management, the second Favre becomes a Viking, I would have the punter change his number to 4...just to see all of Packer Nation use duct tape on their Favre jerseys.

If management would just dive in and play Favre's revenge game, this could get fun.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

FYI- Favre is expected to announce his return to the NFL as a Minnesota Viking tonight on Joe Buck's new show on HBO at 9 PM ET. How did Joe Buck get his own show? I don't know, but it's pretty much guaranteed to suck.

PFT begs to differ:

ProFootballTalk.com - Favre Interview Set In Motion Months Ago

[Jas_lov]

Oh God. I just assumed he was going on to say he's coming back. Now this is going to drag on even further if he doesn't just say he's getting ready for the season which apparently he is. He had the surgery, the Vikings are working with him, so he's definitely coming back.

[Mustang]

I think even Obama looks at Favre and says.. "Man, you get a lot of press"

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Oh God. I just assumed he was going on to say he's coming back. Now this is going to drag on even further if he doesn't just say he's getting ready for the season which apparently he is. He had the surgery, the Vikings are working with him, so he's definitely coming back.

So when you said "Favre is expected" you just decided to completely make shit up?

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Oh God.... Now this is going to drag on even further....

Did you not read the thread topic?

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Logan

So when you said "Favre is expected" you just decided to completely make shit up?

I always make shit up! Now I have changed it, but why else would Favre go on the show? He hasn't spoken to anybody in the media about this and all of a sudden he's doing a sit down interview like Greta van Sustren last year.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

And, thankfully, over.

Childress: Favre staying retired

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

And, thankfully, over.

Are you really going to believe that?