NHL EHM Beta Demo available

[Chubby]

I guess they only have a 2 GB pipe or something at SI which is why they went this route.

No problem, I wa ssurprised it went as smoothly as it did for me.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Tried to sign Belfour to an extension... and the board would only allow me to pay him $10,000 US????

You weren't playing as the Bruins by any chance? If that's the case, I applaud the realism.

[Tekneek]

Chief, SI explained that they don't have the bandwidth to serve it, so they did it a different way that most likely allowed more people to get the demo than could get past demos over the same time period. I know there were times in the past where it was much more difficult to get demos than this one was.

[Chief Rum]

Oh, I know why they did it, and that's fine. But they really should have set up mirror sites with the actual file before posting it up. There are plenty of fans of CM who have the room to host it, and it would have been nice to have the choice of going with the "quick" but complicated download from SIGames, and going with the slower, but error-free download from some impacted direct-file download mirror host.

BT makes sense for people on phone lines, and people for whom speed opf download is of utmost importance. But for those of us who have broadband and/or don't want to be adding programs just to download, this was just a needless and hair-wrenching complication.

They really should have set it up both ways (with the second way on someone else's bandwidth, which I have seen them do for CM patches).

CR

[Adamski47]

Sorry if this has been answered already I skimmed the first page and a half for the same problem:

ERROR
Problem getting response info [errno2] no such file or directory...

Any ideas/solutions?

Thank you!

[Ramzavail]

wheres the mirror - i wanna download.

[SackAttack]

Ramza - grab me on AIM, I've got it.

[Adamski47]

Can someone send me the file via email or something? I'm having problems using the company's special download procedure (where you download the program blah blah blah). That's where my problem exists (once the install program opens).

Thank you.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Adamski47

Sorry if this has been answered already I skimmed the first page and a half for the same problem:

ERROR
Problem getting response info [errno2] no such file or directory...

Any ideas/solutions?

Thank you!

Yeah, Adamski, that was one of the problems I was running into. I ended up abandoning the whole BT thing and getting help from Neuqua, who had a link to a direct download. And, in fact, here is the link:

http://www.edinburgh-capitals.com/do...hmbetademo.exe

I maybe shouldn't be giving that out, though (not sure where Neuqua got it, probably from a CM fan host site). Neuqua, if there is a problem with me posting that, let me know, and I will remove it.

CR

[Neuqua]

Not really sure, the reason I did not make it public was because I actually had to do a lot of searching to find it, so I was not sure if the guy who is hosting it wanted to make it public for everybody or not.

[General Mike]

How big is the file?

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by General Mike

How big is the file?

The one I'm downlloading now is 51.9 MB.

[henry296]

It is 52 MB

[scooter]

That direct link was posted over at SI too (that's the mirror I downloaded it from). I think one of the reasons they set it up this way is because EHM has a different (less established) community than CM. At any one time, there are probably 20 websites dedicated to all things CM. I can only think of one dedicated site for EHM. When SI posts a new demo or enhancement pack for CM, the file gets picked up by a half dozen or so websites within minutes. I just don't think the EHM community has grown to that point yet. If SI had followed their prior procedures, we probably would all still be waiting for them to reset their server with possibly one other mirror site struggling to meet the demand.

I've also heard a number of people that couldn't download it with BitTorent because they were at work with networks that wouldn't allow the kind of access that that system requires. It isn't a perfect system, but I'm not worried about it now...I'm chasing the Stanley Cup

[Neuqua]

Ok then, good to hear Scooter, now I don't feel so guilty

[Adamski47]

Thank you so much for the help Cheif Run and Neuqua!

[Maple Leafs]

Hey guys, is there an easy way to quickly run an auto-manage on my team to get started, or do I have to manually set everything myself?

[henry296]

The Season records don't have Wayne Gretzky's 92 goals.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Adamski47

Thank you so much for the help Cheif Run and Neuqua!

I can't believe you totally misspelled an easy name like Chief Rum, but you got Neuqua right.

Hope you're enjoying the game.

CR

[Maple Leafs]

OK, help a dumb Canadian. How do I edit lines? I found the line screen, and I found the "Ask Coach" button, but now that I have his lines how do I change them? How do I get Player A onto the first line?

[Johnny93g]

I know this was brought up before....but I got a few injuries...Antropov, Kaberle both were out for about a month.....I put them on injured reserve....saved it....I come back 10 mins ago....and my pro roster is 51.......Most of the St. Johns Maple leafs team was up....made me turn it off....i dont want to send them back down....I never called them up....hope this will be fixed...

[SackAttack]

Maple,

Click the player's uniform number to the left of his name, then click the name of the player you wish to replace over on the 'lines' side of the screen.

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

OK, help a dumb Canadian. How do I edit lines? I found the line screen, and I found the "Ask Coach" button, but now that I have his lines how do I change them? How do I get Player A onto the first line?

Do you see the list of players.....click on there number...then put them on the line you want

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

Do you see the list of players.....click on there number...then put them on the line you want

Ah, OK, thanks guys. I was clicking the player's name, and it just kept popping up their player card.

Still feeling my way through the interface.

[Simms]

One thing I've noticed that may explain the lack of goals and/or fighting...

In the tactics screen, when you select the individual lines in order to specify how you want them to play....right-click on each of the "silhouettes" in the visual, and you can set general and specific instructions on a per-player basis.

It appears (at least in my game) that all players are defaulted to Shoot/Pass Bias = Pass and Fighting = Not Allowed.

I may be wrong about the overall effect this has on the games themselves, but nobody'd mentioned this feature yet and it's not exactly intuitive. So, if nothing else, I guess I'm bringing attention to it.

Edit: And Carry Puck = No for each player. So if I'm to understand (at least in games involving human-controlled teams), every player by default is not supposed to shoot, carry the puck, or fight.

[Johnny93g]

Originally Posted by Simms

One thing I've noticed that may explain the lack of goals and/or fighting...

In the tactics screen, when you select the individual lines in order to specify how you want them to play....right-click on each of the "silhouettes" in the visual, and you can set general and specific instructions on a per-player basis.

It appears (at least in my game) that all players are defaulted to Shoot/Pass Bias = Pass and Fighting = Not Allowed.

I may be wrong about the overall effect this has on the games themselves, but nobody'd mentioned this feature yet and it's not exactly intuitive. So, if nothing else, I guess I'm bringing attention to it.

Edit: And Carry Puck = No for each player. So if I'm to understand (at least in games involving human-controlled teams), every player by default is not supposed to shoot, carry the puck, or fight.

Holy crap...didnt even realize that...thanks....Mogilny will now shoot...Hoorayy

[Maple Leafs]

Questions as I play my first game:

- How are you supposed to know when a faceoff happens? The play just seems to go on and on... I assume they're happening and the play-by-play just doesn't mention it?

- I like to use the tactical view, but it seems like the location of the play will just jump from end of the ice to the other right away. My player takes a shot on net, and next thing I know the same player has the puck behind his own net

- Is it me, or is every single save an "easy" save?

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Simms

It appears (at least in my game) that all players are defaulted to Shoot/Pass Bias = Pass and Fighting = Not Allowed.

Would it stand to reason that even setting all your players to being allowed to fight wouldn't help, if none of the other players in the league were allowed?

It's like they let Jacques Martin program the fighting AI.

[Simms]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Questions as I play my first game:

- How are you supposed to know when a faceoff happens? The play just seems to go on and on... I assume they're happening and the play-by-play just doesn't mention it?

- I like to use the tactical view, but it seems like the location of the play will just jump from end of the ice to the other right away. My player takes a shot on net, and next thing I know the same player has the puck behind his own net

- Is it me, or is every single save an "easy" save?

I haven't actually played a game yet, but if it's anything like CM (with which my last experience was 01-02), the PbP is neither real-time, nor comprehensive. Typically you only got full detail when "something" was happening. The rest of the play took place behind the scenes in the engine. I haven't had any experience with the visual representation in CM, but I think it would stand to reason that it would be similar in this game.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Would it stand to reason that even setting all your players to being allowed to fight wouldn't help, if none of the other players in the league were allowed?

It's like they let Jacques Martin program the fighting AI.

Heh, that's true. Hello tons of instigators

[bbor]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Hey guys, is there an easy way to quickly run an auto-manage on my team

Sure is....just hire Gerry Macnamara as your gm and sit back and watch things unwind for the next 12 years


For Chicago fans.....Hiring Bob Pulford will have the same effect

[illinifan999]

As usual unable to decide on a team. Looking through the Blackhawks roster I see that Fluery is suspended for use of an illegal substance. Will that be an event that can happen in the game?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

Ok let me rephrase....I can dress 12 forwards, 8 defensemen, and 2 goalies
22 players

And...Montreal just beat Detroit 10-2..Hasek allowed 6, Joseph allowed 4

What's up with this? WHat's up with you playing this game and the Wings sucking? It's inacceptable. You're banned. Riz? Marc? Can't you do something about this? Ban him!!

[Karim]

Great catch, Simms.

Has anyone found the trading interface? I've searched high and low...

[klayman]

Originally Posted by Karim

Great catch, Simms.

Has anyone found the trading interface? I've searched high and low...

Under actions for individual players. You can also get to it from another teams roster menu.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Karim

Great catch, Simms.

Has anyone found the trading interface? I've searched high and low...

Karim, I think you need to go to the team you want to trade with and maybe click on the player card and it's under "action" or something. I saw this while browsing the SI boards.

The interface will take some time to get a handle on. I had all sorts of problems with the original EHM and the first time I played CM.

[klayman]

Speaking of trades, has anybody received an offer after making an inquiry for a player? All I get is the other team is not interested.

[SackAttack]

the weird thing about the trading interface is that you can only offer FOR a player. So far as I can tell, you can't just go to a trading screen and start adding random players.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Questions as I play my first game:
- How are you supposed to know when a faceoff happens? The play just seems to go on and on... I assume they're happening and the play-by-play just doesn't mention it?

Play by play only shows the 'interesting' parts of games (think of it like a mid-week sports round up from a game - it cuts out a lot of the un-exciting parts of the match) and keeps the game (reasonably) quick.

The rest happens behind the scenes (watch the stats and the pitch information screens if you want to get a feel for whats happening 'off comentary).

Hope this helps,

Marc

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by illinifan999

As usual unable to decide on a team. Looking through the Blackhawks roster I see that Fluery is suspended for use of an illegal substance. Will that be an event that can happen in the game?

No. It is like that because he was, indeed, suspended by the NHL for the entire season due to violations of the substance abuse policy. You don't think the NHL and NHLPA would agree to licensing a game that would have players busted for that kind of thing, do you?

[scooter]

I've struggled with the tactical screen during games as well. I read over on the SI forums that the tactical screen is supposed to have the names of the players on the ice as well, but it didn't make it into this build of the demo - expect it in the final game I guess.

Also, has anyone read the .rtf that came with the demo. It's only three pages long, but it might have some helpful info in there (I haven't read it yet ).

[druez]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Questions as I play my first game:

- How are you supposed to know when a faceoff happens? The play just seems to go on and on... I assume they're happening and the play-by-play just doesn't mention it?

- I like to use the tactical view, but it seems like the location of the play will just jump from end of the ice to the other right away. My player takes a shot on net, and next thing I know the same player has the puck behind his own net

- Is it me, or is every single save an "easy" save?

Yep, most of the saves I've seen have been easy...

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Play by play only shows the 'interesting' parts of games (think of it like a mid-week sports round up from a game - it cuts out a lot of the un-exciting parts of the match) and keeps the game (reasonably) quick.

The rest happens behind the scenes (watch the stats and the pitch information screens if you want to get a feel for whats happening 'off comentary).

Hope this helps

Fair enough. I'm not sure that's the best way to do it, but if I know that's how the system is working than I can understand what's happening a little better.

[Adamski47]

Is there a way to save your progress? I Have autosave turned off.

[illinifan999]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

No. It is like that because he was, indeed, suspended by the NHL for the entire season due to violations of the substance abuse policy. You don't think the NHL and NHLPA would agree to licensing a game that would have players busted for that kind of thing, do you?

Didn't really expect it to be, but one could only hope.

I have a few questions. I watch hockey sometimes, but I'm not a big fan that knows what all these things mean.

I'm getting told some minor league club is offering Joe Smith a contract while he's at college and that I currently own the rights to him. What are the rights and why are teams offering a contract if I have his rights?

Whenever I look at the lines, my starting goalie is the goalie in the first line, then it shows that my backup goalie is in the second line. In the game, I don't ever see notice of the backup goalie?

For the General Manager Options screen it asks if I want to use current tactics, it's set to no? Do I want it at no, or change it to yes?

And this is based off 1-20 right? For the ratings.

[riz]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

the weird thing about the trading interface is that you can only offer FOR a player. So far as I can tell, you can't just go to a trading screen and start adding random players.

You can Go to a team you want to trade with, select "Actions" menu from the left hand side and "Approach to trade". This will open the trade screen and you can just start adding random players.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by illinifan999

Didn't really expect it to be, but one could only hope.

I have a few questions. I watch hockey sometimes, but I'm not a big fan that knows what all these things mean.

I'm getting told some minor league club is offering Joe Smith a contract while he's at college and that I currently own the rights to him. What are the rights and why are teams offering a contract if I have his rights?

Whenever I look at the lines, my starting goalie is the goalie in the first line, then it shows that my backup goalie is in the second line. In the game, I don't ever see notice of the backup goalie?

For the General Manager Options screen it asks if I want to use current tactics, it's set to no? Do I want it at no, or change it to yes?

And this is based off 1-20 right? For the ratings.

With re: to the backup goalie, that's just used so you can set instructions for your backup should he enter the game. He won't play unless the starter is pulled or injured.

[Tekneek]

You own the NHL rights for those players. Non-NHL teams are offering them contracts. If it works like real life, I think you have one year (after they go pro) to sign them to a contract before you lose their NHL rights.

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Adamski47

Is there a way to save your progress? I Have autosave turned off.

Right under the team name bar there are a number of menu headings. The one on the far right says "Game Options". In this menu you can save the game or exit it (why would you want to do that?!)

[Adamski47]

Thanks for the help with saving. I think it wouldn't work because I had autosave turned off completely (before it wasn't available to select).

My next question is this:

As the GM, it shouldn't be my job to set line tactics and other similar game approaches. I know you can have your coach set your lines for you but is there a way to let the coach do the coaching of other detailed things like tactics?

I really hope so, I just want to GM!

Thank you.