Ping: SF Giants Fans

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Bucc- you're a Padres fan ?

Been since the early 1980s when I lived there but left just before the 1984 pennant-winning season ended. TGwynn is my favorite player of all time.

[Ksyrup]

The NL West is pathetic. How can the Padres be on the verge of climbing a whopping 2 games over .500, 2 weeks left in the season, a chance to pretty much cement the division, and give up 15 runs in 3 innings to the Rockies? How is that possible? Can't Selig invoke the "best interests of baseball" clause to give the West title to the runner-up in the East?

[Bad-example]

Sure this has been a rough year for the Giants, but they did win the season series against the Dodgers and kick them into 3rd place in the process.

Sure this has been a rough year for the Diamondbacks too, but they did win the season series against the Dodgers and kick them into 4th place in the process.



Edit: I see that Sportsline changed their game recap. It originally said that the DBacks had won the season series but now I see they lead it 8-5 (with 5 games to play).

[kingfc22]

Ahem. Just another daily Bonds HR. 2-run shot in the first.

[Crapshoot]

goddamnit, if he had been back a week earlier, we could have done more..

So is the new moto: Bonds and Cain and pray for rain ?

[Buccaneer]

Whew. Thanks Nats.

[Buccaneer]

After 7 innings, Rockies have a 1-hit shutout on the Giants. At Coors Field. With Bonds playing. Go Rox.

[kingfc22]

The season is slowly coming to an end. However, if the Pads lose tonight and a 4-game sweep next week would leave us 1 GB.

[kingfc22]

Thank you Dbacks.

[Buccaneer]

Bochy couldn't manage the bullpen in late innings last night. Should've stuck with Linebrink and not have brought in Aki. This wasn't the first time this has happened.

Now I become an Astros fan. Don't want the Phillies in the playoffs. The Pads owned the Cards and Braves this season but sucked against the Phils.

[kingfc22]

Best news of my day so far. Just realized the Giants won and Pads lost. A sweep starts tomorrow!!!

[Karlifornia]

Padres --
Giants 4 GB

Guess what's next? 4 game series at Jack Mur---err Petco Park starting Tuesday. As big of a Giants fan as I am, I don't see Hennessey and Correia winning...and then someone has to start in place of Schmidt in the third game....Paging Salomon Torres

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Best news of my day so far. Just realized the Giants won and Pads lost. A sweep starts tomorrow!!!

In your fucking dreams (or in my fucking nightmare).

[kingfc22]

I beleive Peavy goes tomorrow for the Pads. If we can get past that one, then I think we have a chance.

[Buccaneer]

Good start. Bochy messed with the lineup (again) with Loretta #1 and Klesko #2. They responded with a hit and a HR in first inning. Also, Greene has miraculously came back from his injury from Saturday. Good thing, Pads needs his glove and bat.

[Karlifornia]

HOLY MOLY!! Randy Winn came up HUUUUGE! The Giants beat Peavy and Hoffman...Now they need 3 more. That was an exciting game.

[kingfc22]

Peavy down...3 more to go!!!

[Vince]

Wow. Just wow. J.T. Snow and Randy Winn coming up absolutely huge here late in the season.

[AgustusM]

when Sabean traded for Winn - I didn't really like the deal - I thought they gave up two good young players and didn't see where Winn was much of an improvement over Jason Elison.

However, he has proved me wrong day in and day out over the past few months - If the Giants don't make that trade for Winn, they are already eliminated.

[Vince]

Something that worries me...

I love Winn just as much as the next Giants fan (now). But can we expect this production next year? He's never really been an amazing player, and he seems to be playing just absolutely lights out for us. For reference, Winn has 204 ABs with the Giants this year. Here are his career highs (in seasons where he had over 600 ABs), and his current numbers with the Giants and what they project to over 600 ABs...

Randy Winn	H	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	Avg
Career High (600+ Abs)	181	39	9	14	103	81	0.298
W/ Giants (projected)	68 (200)	18 (53)	3 (9)	12 (35)	33 (97)	21 (62)	0.333

I think there's no way he keeps this pace up for a full season, so what to do with him in the off-season? Keep him and hope he continues? Try to turn him into something else? It seems that a player of similar abilities (pre-ridiculous surge here at the end of 2005) would be much cheaper in FA than, say, an above-average SP that we (might) be able to get for him in the offseason.

[Vince]

Forgot to add one of the most absurd things about his stats --

Career High SLG = .461

w/ SF this year = .627

[kingfc22]

Vince - got to love this stat.

Cain: 40 IP - 18 hits allowed.

[Vince]

The only thing I don't like about Cain's line is the walks. But man, everything else is drool-worthy as hell.

Now let's see how he does after he's faced every team more than once. I think next year I'd be excited about anything better than a 5.00 ERA, 1.5:1 K:BB and .66:1 K:IP.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by AgustusM

when Sabean traded for Winn - I didn't really like the deal - I thought they gave up two good young players and didn't see where Winn was much of an improvement over Jason Elison.

However, he has proved me wrong day in and day out over the past few months - If the Giants don't make that trade for Winn, they are already eliminated.

Yeah. I dont know what's gotten into Winn, but he's been one of the 5 best hitters in the nL since the trade. Foppert was my great Giants hope - here's hoping he's still successful.

Right now though - I believe!

[Crapshoot]

To reiterate: Bonds and Cain and pray for Rain..

[Buccaneer]

I just read what happened and now I feel sick.

[Ksyrup]

I tihnk it's sick that a team 8 games under .500 has a legitimate chance to win a division.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I tihnk it's sick that a team 8 games under .500 has a legitimate chance to win a division.

Well, if you sucked 40 HR's, 90-100 RBI's, 120 walks, and a .500 OBP away from any team, they'd be having problems, too. I think the Giants could take more than 1 game from St. Louis or Atlanta in the playoffs, especially if Scmhidt can get back. Ever since Bonds has come back, they've had that confidence that no game is ever over, something they hadn't had all year..

Cain needs to up that K/9 total if he's going to be as good as we all hope. The 18 hits is definitely an awesome number so far, though.

Vince-Well, this has probably been an anomaly as far Winn goes, but, really, he brings a pretty nice package to centerfield. He can hit, run, and field. Who else are we going to put out there? Marvin Benard?

[AgustusM]

Originally Posted by RadioFriendlyUnitShifter

Marvin Benard?

Don't do that - you just gave me an awful shiver down my spine.

[AgustusM]

On a serious note - the guys who would have to line up out there would be Todd Linden and Dan Ortmier. Both guys, Linden in particular have been tearing up the minors.

all in all though, I would rather have Winn in CF and Linden and Ortmier as the 4th and 5th OF's - with Bonds and Alou the 4th and 5th OF's on the Giants are going to get a ton of AB's.

As far as the under 500 NL West winner - it is true that it is kind of silly, but bottom line is someone has to win the division and the Giants are as close today as they have been all season - I keep getting this sick feeling they are going to sweep the Pads to tie it, but lose 2 of 3 in the last series vs Arizona and lose the division by one game.

Regardless of who wins the West, they will almost certainly be swept by the Cardinals.

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by AgustusM

I keep getting this sick feeling they are going to sweep the Pads to tie it, but lose 2 of 3 in the last series vs Arizona and lose the division by one game.

The Padres finish with three against the hapless Dodgers, so even if SF can pull off a miracle sweep this week, they would still likely need to win all three games against the DBacks just to force a one game playoff.

[clintl]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I tihnk it's sick that a team 8 games under .500 has a legitimate chance to win a division.

Don't blame the Giants. It's the Padres' fault the Giants are still in the "race."

[Buccaneer]

It's interesting to gauge the reactions of the Pads fans all season long (at least since June). They have clearly regressed from last season - with injuries being a big reason - but Moores and JT may be satisfied with a division crown. There are some wishing that the Pads won't win so they can better see what a mediocre team this has been.

[kingfc22]

Biggest start of Tomko's career as a Giant.

[kingfc22]

BARRY!!!!!!

3-0 Giants

[Buccaneer]

Wind blowing out to right pretty good. You don't give Bonds anything to hit.

Let's see if the Pads can answer...bases loaded 1 out....

[Buccaneer]

2-run single by Sweeney.

[kingfc22]

Tomko blows. He bitches and moans about now getting run support and then he gets a 3-0 lead in the biggest game of the season only to give up at least 2 and possibly more right back.

[Buccaneer]

Got it all back. Tie game.

[SackAttack]

Padres' magic # is 4 now, 2 if they win, 3 if they lose, right?

[kingfc22]

It will still be 4 if they lose.

[kingfc22]

I love you Randy!

[Buccaneer]

6 games left. Giants have to go at least 4-2 to win the division.

[kingfc22]

Watching Bonds go 1st to home on a double down the LF line is painful. Can't believe he made it standing up.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Tomko blows.

[kingfc22]

Wow!!! Is the only thing I can say about that last play.

[kingfc22]

dola

Vizquel hit a flare to right, Winn hesitated going into 2nd and then decided to go for third. He beat the throw, but overslid the bag and then the ball came out of Randa's glove as he was making the tag and Winn was diving back. Vizquel went to 2nd on the throw.

Snow's sac. fly has made it 6-5 Giants.

[kingfc22]

Hernandez just hit a slam. 9-6 Padres.

Petco is playing like Coors Field tonight.

[Crapshoot]

F%@_%*@^&^__)@^&_+)^@) HELL!

[kingfc22]

Hopefully, this makes Sabean's decision to dump Tomko very simple.

JUST DO IT!!!