SpongeBob SquarePants Angers Christian Conservatives

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Her name is Sandy Bottoms, she is a squirrel that lives in an air-filled bubble. Maybe Bob did come out, cause I don't see her much in the new ones.

Sandy is not his girlfriend they're just FRIENDS, pfft and her name is Sandy CHEEKS not Bottoms, although both could pass for porn names...he's asexual anyways, he wouldnt care about having a b/f or g/f anyways

p.s right on, miked and sportsfan

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Way to avoid his point. Man, I hope that damn football game comes out soon so i can like you again.

Suicane, I'll always like you bud!

[Subby]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Yes, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, great religionists that killed millions of people. Oh, they were athiests? Oh well...

I don't think you want to play this game. Suffice it to say, millions of people have been killed through the ages in the name of one religion or another...

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Loren

Sandy is not his girlfriend they're just FRIENDS, pfft and her name is Sandy CHEEKS not Bottoms, although both could pass for porn names...he's asexual anyways, he wouldnt care about having a b/f or g/f anyways

Time Magazine, in an article awhile back, states that she is his GIRLfriend.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Yes, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, great religionists that killed millions of people. Oh, they were athiests? Oh well...

So? I thought this was about religion. If you want to talk about atheists, that's fine... I never thought you would be that interested in those heathens.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Subby

I don't think you want to play this game. Suffice it to say, millions of people have been killed through the ages in the name of one religion or another...

And then Crusades, Inquisition, all things done by one sect (Catholic Church) are put forth to promote this idea. Read some Martin Luther bud. Or better yet, watch the movie (just came out on DVD.)

[sportsfan13]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Time Magazine, in an article awhile back, states that she is his GIRLfriend.

I thought they were just friends too. Hmm...

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Subby

I don't think you want to play this game. Suffice it to say, millions of people have been killed through the ages in the name of one religion or another...

According to the Bible, many people were killed by God, by His direct order, and/or with His blessing. You don't even have to get into what has happened since then.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

So? I thought this was about religion. If you want to talk about atheists, that's fine... I never thought you would be that interested in those heathens.

And to bring it all full circle, atheism IS actually a religion (see previous definition), just not admitted to as being one by its followers. In some sense, you cannot help but be religious living on this earth. So its not really religion that gets attacked, its just those who believe in a higher power.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Subby

That statement is not completely true. There are plenty of sects and denominations that do not subscribe to this interpretation. It is the very issue that has practically split the Episcopal Church of the US in half...

Obviously, one half has been deceived by Satan and is going to Hell for eternity. The other half has seen through that deception and will live on forever in the Kingdom of the Lord.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Time Magazine, in an article awhile back, states that she is his GIRLfriend.

You shouldnt believe everything that you read ....

[sportsfan13]

The bottomline....if you think SpongeBob's video promotes homosexuality, then don't watch it and don't allow your children to watch it. If you're open-minded and it doens't bother you, watch it with your kids. That's what makes this place beautiful!! The ability to choose!!!

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

In some sense, you cannot help but be religious living on this earth.

Elucidate.

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Completely tolerant of everything? Pedophilia? Slavery? Cheating? You said it, I didn't.

Good one Bubba, leave it to you to take every word to the extreme. Here, ill clear up any misconceptions... if i caught a slavemaster cheating on his wife with a little kid, id kill him myself.

Ive done 1000's of hours of volunteer work in my life, and with that ive spent a great deal of time with religious people and orgs... and not a one ive ever had the pleasure of working with is as bigoted, narrow minded, intolerate as the so-called religious extremist half wits that post on this board. Its a great feeling knowing that its only the extremists who give religion a bad name.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

Obviously, one half has been deceived by Satan and is going to Hell for eternity. The other half has seen through that deception and will live on forever in the Kingdom of the Lord.

One final point needs to be stated: Bible refers to Satan as an "Angel of Light," someone or something that appeals to the 'intellect' in a very reasonable way (just without God). The communist manifesto is the best example of this...heaven on earth created by man without God. Bible also says that 'There is a way which seems right unto man, but ends in death." Spiritual death, seperation from God for eternity.

[Raiders Army]

One flaw with God that I never understood:

1. I give you freedom of choice.
2. I don't want you to be exposed to some "tolerant" video.
3. Choose me freely.

In this example, that's what it seems like. While I may be simplifying the situation, that's what the argument is here, right?

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Loren

You shouldnt believe everything that you read ....

Depends on the age of the publication, though, right? There are apparently some books in which everything must be believed.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

And then Crusades, Inquisition, all things done by one sect (Catholic Church) are put forth to promote this idea. Read some Martin Luther bud. Or better yet, watch the movie (just came out on DVD.)

This is why it is impossible to have any kind of intelligent discussion with you.

I don't think I have ever run across a more condescending, unlikeable person on the Internet...

Anyway, good luck spreading the Word. You are doing a fabulous job.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Loren

You shouldnt believe everything that you read ....

Well played.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Subby

I don't think I have ever run across a more condescending, unlikeable person on the Internet...

That's pretty harsh. What about all the people on the banned list?

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

One flaw with God that I never understood:

1. I give you freedom of choice.
2. I don't want you to be exposed to some "tolerant" video.
3. Choose me freely.

In this example, that's what it seems like. While I may be simplifying the situation, that's what the argument is here, right?

God gave everyone free choice, which apparently also means that they can get together in groups and try to deny the freedom of choice to those they do not agree with. If free will was given to each human by God, then why are people constantly trying to restrain that free will? Who are we to try and undo God's work?

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Good one Bubba, leave it to you to take every word to the extreme. Here, ill clear up any misconceptions... if i caught a slavemaster cheating on his wife with a little kid, id kill him myself.

Ive done 1000's of hours of volunteer work in my life, and with that ive spent a great deal of time with religious people and orgs... and not a one ive ever had the pleasure of working with is as bigoted, narrow minded, intolerate as the so-called religious extremist half wits that post on this board. Its a great feeling knowing that its only the extremists who give religion a bad name.

I don't doubt your a very caring individual, but you did say what you said. Tolerance needs to be applied with thought and discretion, not painted on everyone and everything with a broad brush (because those groups of pedophiles, slavery holders...still exist in Africa...and cheater do happen to think that they should be tolerated.)

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

God gave everyone free choice, which apparently also means that they can get together in groups and try to deny the freedom of choice to those they do not agree with. If free will was given to each human by God, then why are people constantly trying to restrain that free will? Who are we to try and undo God's work?

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I would add that when those groups attempt to deny the freedom of choice to those they do not agree with, they do it with the best of intentions, such as "saving" them.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Subby

This is why it is impossible to have any kind of intelligent discussion with you.

I don't think I have ever run across a more condescending, unlikeable person on the Internet...

Anyway, good luck spreading the Word. You are doing a fabulous job.

Well, you got me on that one, cause I really have no idea what I said to set you off. Just made some obvious points in counter arguement to what you said. Maybe I just have more 'tolerance?"

[Suicane75]

Bubba, do you not see that you have a tendancy, hell, it isn't even a tendancy, it's what you do 90% of the time, to veer off of the original discussion into an outlandish take on what someone says, taking it to the upteenth degree, and then when they call you on it you act like you have no idea what they're talking about?

[Tekneek]

Pedophilia and slavery is forcing your will upon people who are not consenting (or able to consent). It is completely different than homosexual acts between consenting adults. If you think those three are linked together beyond a doubt, please go ahead and state your case.

[Raiders Army]

I also give this thread an

X

Also, let's get rid of health classes that teach anything about the reproductive system and condoms. They indirectly teach tolerance towards teenage pregnancies.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

Pedophilia and slavery is forcing your will upon people who are not consenting (or able to consent). It is completely different than homosexual acts between consenting adults. If you think those three are linked together beyond a doubt, please go ahead and state your case.

And if your exposing kids to an agenda that promotes homosexuality under the concept of 'tolerance' even though many of those kids are taught by their religion that such acts are 'sin' and will seperate them from God, then who is forcing whose will on who?

[Raiders Army]

Who is forcing who's will on whom.

Evidently our schools need to concentrate on dem Grammer skilz.

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

And if your exposing kids to an agenda that promotes homosexuality under the concept of 'tolerance' even though many of those kids are taught by their religion that such acts are 'sin' and will seperate them from God, then who is forcing whose will on who?

Bubba, do you think that that VIDEO promotes homosexuality?

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I would add that when those groups attempt to deny the freedom of choice to those they do not agree with, they do it with the best of intentions, such as "saving" them.

But isn't it really God's job to judge humans? Isn't He, alone, the arbiter of whether you are breaking the rules or not?

There seems to be a contradiction at times with religion. Sometimes you are not allowed to do "God's work", or interfere with "God's work", but then other times you are apparently expected to do "God's work." Why don't we all just let the supreme deity take care of things? If He can create the Earth and all that lives on it, surely He can handle deciding what is right and wrong without humans wasting time getting angry over a cartoon character, right? If God doesn't like Spongebob, Spongebob (and those who have created and do Satan's biding through him) will get his just deserts in due time. Humans don't need to waste time getting irate about it. God will take care of it when the time comes for action.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

And if your exposing kids to an agenda that promotes homosexuality under the concept of 'tolerance' even though many of those kids are taught by their religion that such acts are 'sin' and will seperate them from God, then who is forcing whose will on who?

If God doesn't want you to see the video, surely He will make the screen go blank. If He doesn't intervene on your behalf, asking for forgiveness will make it all right again. There is nothing to fear in that, right?

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Subby

I don't think I have ever run across a more condescending, unlikeable person on the Internet...Anyway, good luck spreading the Word. You are doing a fabulous job.

Subby ISS tolerating you, he may dislike your beliefs but still being tolerant dammnit, even wishing you luck, why cant these religious org. do the same

Depends on the age of the publication, though, right? There are apparently some books in which everything must be believed.

apparently SO, I have yet to find one though..

and did i miss a post, how'd pinpointing Africa get in a post, did the US run out of pedophiles and I didnt hear about it, and God (no matter which one you beleive in) has no flaws, just the people who decide to speak for him do

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Bubba, do you think that that VIDEO promotes homosexuality?

Haven't seen the video. Really talking about the broader implications of 'tolerance.' Such as the local high school teacher that posted gay/lesbian friendly literature on his classroom walls (Pioneer High School, Ann Arbor, Michigan) and thought that this was perfectly acceptable because it was promoting 'tolerance' and 'lifestyle', but not 'religion."

[Tekneek]

Peophilia and slavery are only practiced by those infidels in Africa. I guess you didn't get the memo.

[miked]

How long until posts are lost?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Haven't seen the video. Really talking about the broader implications of 'tolerance.' Such as the local high school teacher that posted gay/lesbian friendly literature on his classroom walls (Pioneer High School, Ann Arbor, Michigan) and thought that this was perfectly acceptable because it was promoting 'tolerance' and 'lifestyle', but not 'religion."

Although I have been sarcastic in parts of the thread, I'm not here.

Have you not seen the video because of your religious beliefs or because you haven't gotten around to it yet? If it's because of religious beliefs, then how can you judge something that you haven't seen yet?

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

Peophilia and slavery are only practiced by those infidels in Africa. I guess you didn't get the memo.

Not sure what you mean by this, but its a documented fact that Abrabs from the Northern African countries routinely hold black slaves. A grade school in Colorado was in the news about a year ago for raising money to free slaves (the Arabs will free them for a price.) Documented stuff.

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by BucDawg40

Hey G-Man, I'm just curious as to how old your son was when he decided, all on his own, after long consideration and careful contemplation on the nature of the universe, to become a BAC. Surely he compared all different brands of Christianity and even examined other faiths before settling on this one, right?

He was 20 (year and a half ago). Are you Born Again? Because it doesn't sound like it. Otherwise you would know that it rarely happens like that. BTW he was raised Jewish (reform). So he does know something of other religions. However that had little to do with his becoming Born Again. You would have to hear his testimony to understand how he became Born Again. Too me it is a miracle, and how does one explain that? You cannot understand God with your mind, no human being can comprehend His greatness. It is about the heart and love.

My other son was Born Again last year at the age of 22

[SirFozzie]

I don't think posts will be lost, but I sense lockdown in the very near future.

[Loren]

sooo umm dont send your kids to public school, they have religious schools ya know..or keep them at home- focus more on teaching your own kids what you want and not trying to "save" everyone elses...

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Although I have been sarcastic in parts of the thread, I'm not here.

Have you not seen the video because of your religious beliefs or because you haven't gotten around to it yet? If it's because of religious beliefs, then how can you judge something that you haven't seen yet?

I'm sure I'll get around to it, might not even have a problem with it (there are differences of opinion in conservative Christian ranks.)

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Remember the Great Flood? Noah's Ark? Sodom and Gomorrah? The Lord created us and He does love us very much. However He also can be quite vengeful and terrible is His anger. You ask what kind of God can allow thousands, millions (The Holocaust) to die? God gives us free choice. This freedom of choice does come with consequences, sometimes very dire indeed. If not for Noah, the human race may not be here.

To your question about the Tsunami deaths, I cannot give you an answer. How can we as mere mortals conceive of what motivates or drives our Creator? I do know that before His return the deaths caused by the tsunami will pale in comparsion, unfortunately because of the freedom of choice and man's sinful nature.

You sound angry, as I once was. The Lord has given me peace and comfort. Perhaps He would do the same for you if you but seek Him out....

i should add that i do say prayers every nite. on top of that after my prayers i give thanks to to Lord for everything i have and i ask Him to look over my wife and to keep her safe.

just in case there is a God, you know...

my relationship with God is like my relationship with Santa Claus. i don't believe in Santa - but i still act like a good human just in case. if he does exist and i don't believe in him then at least i still acted good, he can't take that away from me. he'd have to cut me some slack. same thing with God. i don't believe in him, but if He does exist then when it's my time to be judged my good will outweigh the bad. i don't think He'd send a good Hindu person to Hell just because they didn't necessarily believe in him. a good person who says prayers is a good person who says prayers, belief in people who can walk on water and rise from the dead notwithstanding.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by G-Man

He was 20 (year and a half ago). Are you Born Again? Because it doesn't sound like it. Otherwise you would know that it rarely happens like that. BTW he was raised Jewish (reform). So he does know something of other religions. However that had little to do with his becoming Born Again. You would have to hear his testimony to understand how he became Born Again. Too me it is a miracle, and how does one explain that? You cannot understand God with your mind, no human being can comprehend His greatness. It is about the heart and love.

My other son was Born Again last year at the age of 22

Congrats! That is actually the greatest news you can hear on this planet! As we will all one day find out!

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Such as the local high school teacher that posted gay/lesbian friendly literature on his classroom walls (Pioneer High School, Ann Arbor, Michigan) and thought that this was perfectly acceptable because it was promoting 'tolerance' and 'lifestyle', but not 'religion."

What is 'gay/lesbian friendly literature' specifically?

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Not sure what you mean by this, but its a documented fact that Abrabs from the Northern African countries routinely hold black slaves. A grade school in Colorado was in the news about a year ago for raising money to free slaves (the Arabs will free them for a price.) Documented stuff.

I hope you pay VERY close attention to all the items you buy for your self and your home, because in buying a lot of fabrics and foods (chocolate being a big one) you are supporting many MANYY items obtained through the slave industry in other countries and depending on your view, in this country as well...and oh my gosh, you REEALLY do believe everything that you read

[CraigSca]

I'd like a plain hamburger, please.

[Tekneek]

Originally Posted by Loren

sooo umm dont send your kids to public school, they have religious schools ya know..or keep them at home- focus more on teaching your own kids what you want and not trying to "save" everyone elses...

Oh, wait... Take personal responsibility for it? That seems like such an outlandish concept.

[duckman]

This is the saddest thread I've ever read here on this board.

[Bubba Wheels]

Originally Posted by Tekneek

What is 'gay/lesbian friendly literature' specifically?

Didn't see it. Promoting you views on sexuality in the classroom is every bit as wrong as promoting religion.