11-27-2018, 09:09 PM | #14451 |
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Trump was fundraising to send lawyers to Florida to prevent Democrats from stealing a Senate and Governor seat from Republicans.
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11-27-2018, 09:11 PM | #14452 |
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Oh I guess with his calls to lock up people behind the Clinton Foundation that would include Bill and other executives working for it. So that's a few more names to the list.
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11-27-2018, 09:29 PM | #14453 |
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When absentee votes are being counted and the republican is ahead, Trump calls the Democrat names and says they are going against democracy by not conceding. When absentee votes are being counted and the democrat is ahead, Trump calls for everyone to allow the process to play out and be calm until all votes are counted. A great man indeed.
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11-27-2018, 09:31 PM | #14454 | |
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Trump is a test of our government to hold up against efforts to break things down and move towards a totalitarian regime. As flawed as our government is in so many ways, it is holding up against this test. |
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11-27-2018, 10:29 PM | #14455 | |
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GM has really put the screws to Americans over the years. Remember that we lost $11 billion on the bailout. They also wouldn't have a need to be "agile" if they didn't spend billions buying back stock to prop up executive bonuses. |
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11-27-2018, 11:36 PM | #14456 | ||
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Those require the other co-equal branches of government to exert them. If Congress rolls over because "he's an asshole fascist, but he's our asshole fascist" and the judges he appoints back legislation that an independent judiciary would reject, the checks and balances get rendered moot. Without a legislative willing to stand up to the executive, or a judiciary willing to tell them both to screw off, it doesn't matter. Quote:
Neither did Hitler in Germany. The Nazis had strong plurality support in the early 30s, and it was all downhill from there. They never had a majority. Didn't matter. Between the parliamentary system and the abdication of responsibility by others who thought they could control Hitler, the Nazis still seized control of Germany and millions died. You don't need majority support to make that happen. You just need the wrong people in the right places and for men and women of conscience to do nothing. |
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11-28-2018, 08:29 AM | #14457 |
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The moron retweeted 3 tweets from an ultra right wing site this morning including a meme with his political opponents behind bars.
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11-28-2018, 08:43 AM | #14458 | |
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After the dust has been settled, the US arrested protesters on our side of the border and Mexico deported about 40 and arrested 200 more and are looking into country of origin. The majority of people "gassed" were protesters in an area where they were throwing rocks. Looking at the videos, it seems like the Mexican federal police force on their side quickly were overwhelmed by the protesters/migrants mixed together. I'd imagine when an small access point sees a couple hundred people running full speed at you, you probably do what you can and non-lethal force was probably the best outcome. Seems like Mexico did most of the dirty work, once they re-established their control of their protesters on their side. It sucks there was collateral damage from the tear gas. |
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11-28-2018, 09:08 AM | #14459 | |
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He lacks the basic understanding of history, civics, and government to understand totalitarianism. So it is fascinating to watch him discover it in real time: Companies not doing what you want? Take them over and force them to do it. The media isn't saying what you want? Start your own media. People are saying things about you that you don't like? Put them in jail. It's almost like watching an AI learn or something. |
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11-28-2018, 10:53 AM | #14460 |
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Well he hasn't really done anything, because he can't. Saying he wants to do these things is disturbing, the fact he really hasn't been able to is a nod to our system.
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11-28-2018, 11:46 AM | #14461 | |
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But what he has done is significantly fractured the country and how it moves forward. There is no going back, especially now that a large portion of the country have fallen under spell of the "fake news" narrative and are more kin to believe a meme than cold hard facts.
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11-28-2018, 11:57 AM | #14462 |
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POTUS may have successfully bullied the Fed onto doing his bidding. Markets seem to think so. #MAGA
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11-28-2018, 12:19 PM | #14463 | |
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More of a reflection on the downside of a Democracy(giving morons a voice/vote) than Trump's ability to consolidate power. The former was going to happen sooner or later, the existence of the internet makes it an eventuality, not the existence of Trump. That's not to say that Trump isn't doing awful hurtful things, but our system has so far successfully blunted/killed his worst impulses. I'm not sure our system was ever designed to keep dumb people from believing dumb shit, quite the opposite. You have 2 choices, go the China route and advocate for extreme government censorship or go the America route and accept the unavoidable reality we are in. |
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11-28-2018, 12:31 PM | #14464 | |
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Yeah, we were always going to get a Trump with the rise of social media and the insane explosion of how connected we all are in the last 10 years. Spoiler alert, it’s not going away after Trump and it’s not getting better. |
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11-28-2018, 02:36 PM | #14465 |
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I think you'd have to ignore the constantly shifting, pendulous and reactive nature of American culture and politics to think that Trump represents the new normal and that this is now where we're stuck forever. For sake of reference. 3-4 years ago the 'new normal' was painted as a post-racial, socially progressive America that some conservatives thought we would likely never shift from again.
While I can't imagine any kind of future in which social media disappears it does seem like things have shifted to where almost all the attention/news regarding social media and its associated major brands is negative these days, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it's role (at least in politics) reduced in coming years. Generations also seem to follow a pendulum swing, and future generations rebel/turn against social media, in some form or another (though they're more likely to have moved on to a more advanced, unrecognizable social technology, rather than abandon things altogether...but you never know).
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11-28-2018, 03:44 PM | #14466 |
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11-28-2018, 07:35 PM | #14467 |
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Apparently Robert Mueller should just let anyone he wants to question about Russia to get interviewed by Ari Melber. Not a big fan of Ari having them on his show, but he certainly gets them to reveal things they might not have before. He had Jerome Corsi on and Corsi admitted lying to Congress, and he was trying to get information about the stolen Clinton/Podesta emails back to the Trump campaign, he and Roger Stone put forward false information about the source of the Podesta tip, and why he's rejecting the Mueller plea:
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-...jail-138318547 Of course you can't believe anything Corsi just said given his history
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11-28-2018, 09:38 PM | #14468 | |
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11-28-2018, 09:39 PM | #14469 | |
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Nobody loves the veterans as much...
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That's also going to fuck colleges that either lose the student or have to accept a reduced tuition.
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11-28-2018, 09:40 PM | #14470 |
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Wow, almost makes me glad I've already exhausted my GI BIll benefits.
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11-29-2018, 12:01 AM | #14471 | |
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Not the most fleshed out article, but the DNC establishment continues to hurt the party long term imo. A House Dominated by Nancy Pelosi Hurts Young Democrats - The Atlantic
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11-29-2018, 09:36 AM | #14472 | |
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Some big news from today's filing on Cohen:
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11-29-2018, 09:58 AM | #14473 |
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When the matrix finally crashes, the bots going through the error logs to figure out what happened are going to find some real gems:
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11-29-2018, 10:39 AM | #14474 |
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Not a good day for Trump its looking like-German authorities have raided Deutsch Bank and arrested two employees there as well as seize records from 2016. They have loaned money to the Trumps when everyone else said no.
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11-29-2018, 11:19 AM | #14475 |
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Om the edge of Cohen's flipping, Fed authorities have raided an Alderman in Chicago's office and put up paper on the windows so know one can see. This Alderman's law firm represented Trump's businesses for 12 years.
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11-29-2018, 01:59 PM | #14476 |
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So interesting that a Republican lobbyist told one of the leaders of the groups that have been resisting Trump, that White House staffers were shocked for find out Mueller/FBI could indict someone for lying to Congress, and never believed Trump has any dealings with Russia until Cohen's plea deal today. As hard as that might be to believe, someone should keep track of all the staffers who now resign/get early retirement.
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11-29-2018, 02:25 PM | #14477 | |
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I know so many people who believe every thing the guy says and believes this is all a Liberal plot against him. Some of these people are not stupid either. It boggles my mind.
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11-29-2018, 02:26 PM | #14478 | |
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In fairness to Trump, I imagine that the feds could have any number of reasons to investigate any given Chicago politician :-) |
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11-29-2018, 02:54 PM | #14479 | |
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yeah it does seem that this guy has quite a long and shady history, but I like my explanation more
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11-29-2018, 04:48 PM | #14480 |
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So Trump has finally started tweeting again after flying to Argentina and what does he tweet about? Book promos from his friends and allies, mostly about him of course
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11-29-2018, 05:22 PM | #14481 | |
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"We Will Be In Moscow": The Story of Trump's 30-year Quest to Expand His Brand to Russia https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a60be96fdff6 Last edited by corbes : 11-29-2018 at 05:32 PM. |
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11-29-2018, 05:27 PM | #14482 | |
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11-29-2018, 05:38 PM | #14483 | |
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I don't think this is related to Trump. Burke has been a corrupt politician for awhile mixing his tax appeal business with politics. Trump is just one of many clients he had to get sweetheart property tax deals. This is most likely over Burke's management of the city's workers compensation fund. Something he has shielded from independent oversight for decades. Alderman Ed Burke investigation appears rooted in 2012 Finance Committee probe | abc7chicago.com |
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11-29-2018, 06:47 PM | #14484 |
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If this is true, it's a crime.
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow Also can't believe people who are committing crimes are using SMS. How have these idiots not heard of Signal? Last edited by RainMaker : 11-29-2018 at 06:50 PM. |
11-29-2018, 06:54 PM | #14485 | |
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Oh sure burst my bubble Just seemed to be a nice concidence on the timing of all three stories today (the German bank being raided by the authorities being the third)
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11-29-2018, 06:56 PM | #14486 |
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11-29-2018, 10:11 PM | #14487 | ||
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Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure | The White House
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11-30-2018, 07:39 AM | #14488 |
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I really hope this Mueller endgame hits before Christmas, because it would make Christmas with the in-laws VASTLY more enjoyable.
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11-30-2018, 09:23 AM | #14489 |
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Yeah, the Russians have known Trump is lying for two years and could have used that to bring down his presidency at any time.
And this is probably just the tip of what they know about Trump.
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11-30-2018, 10:05 AM | #14490 |
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Manafort's probation report scheduled for March 5 after both sides are in agreement that they want the judge to rule on whether or not Manafort breached his plea deal.
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11-30-2018, 10:55 AM | #14491 |
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11-30-2018, 12:10 PM | #14492 | |
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They aren't hearing anything he wouldn't tell them if asked. /kinda sorta joking |
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11-30-2018, 08:21 PM | #14493 |
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Another congressional election has been retracted by the A.P. This time in North Carolina. Republican had won, Dem had conceded, not asking for a recount. only 900 or so votes between them, and the NC Board of Elections won't confirm it over possible voter fraud:
https://apnews.com/16671b61ebc24e51a...source=Twitter
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11-30-2018, 09:47 PM | #14494 | |
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11-30-2018, 10:00 PM | #14495 |
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The government backed down today and said they will be paying the full amount owed.
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12-01-2018, 11:50 AM | #14496 |
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12-01-2018, 01:44 PM | #14498 |
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Democrats 1st bill when they take control of the House:
https://apnews.com/21c560f890e74964a...ign=SocialFlow Wishful thinking that it will go any further given the Senate and President, but A for effort I guess?
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12-01-2018, 02:50 PM | #14499 | |
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Yeah it seems like he did this in the primary too. Not sure why it wasn't picked up back then. |
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12-01-2018, 03:06 PM | #14500 |
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