08-02-2011, 11:08 AM | #1401 |
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08-02-2011, 11:09 AM | #1402 | |
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I was thinking that's why you were acting so silly this game. That and rhyming is fun. Was thinking Lathum for awhile but you made more sense. |
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08-02-2011, 11:23 AM | #1403 |
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And Narcizo, the only switch I would make is onto Jag. Will not vote for Jackal at all. Autumn's arguing today and ignoring jag as a candidate. Yeah that confirms it for me.
So Narcizo, your goal as Dread Pirate Roberts was to scan for Inigo? I wondered why you would do that to me. I thought at first you were doing so to save the village from losing that scan for the count ability even though it actually PREVENTED me from getting a scan. And note, if there are 4 wolves then Lathum is pretty much the lock as the 4th. But I think the game would be over at that point. It might even already be over if there were 4. Very sleepy and at the airport atm so not sure the math. |
08-02-2011, 11:28 AM | #1404 |
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Quick response.
If the brutal is the last wolf to go and brutals to the princess it will not trigger a conversion. |
08-02-2011, 12:04 PM | #1405 | |
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Because only Jackal and JAG could be Count Rugen, per Inigo's scans. I think it highly unlikely JAG as a wolf makes a last second switch from one villager to another, so clearly Jackal is the brutal. That leaves you and only you to be Vizzini. But of course you know that. |
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08-02-2011, 12:05 PM | #1406 | |
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To be serious, is that a legitimate argument to vote me at end game, because Danny, who died days ago, was suspicious of me? I mean, you can't base your analysis on what someone else thinks, especially one not in game who can't agree or disagree with you. |
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08-02-2011, 12:08 PM | #1407 |
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Seeing how set CF and Narcizo are on this, I'm just about ready to give up. I don't know how else I can argue it, it seems pretty obvious to me that I'm the real deal, and that Jackal's faking because he knows if no one counters it will be obvious that I'm right. And he knows that if I'm taken out of the equation it's as clear as can be that he and Lathum are the wolves left.
Only after I die I guess will you guys understand how frustrated I am right now. I'm just going to hope that somehow this makes as much sense to JAG and Telle as it does to me, because continuing to argue in the face of such stubbornness is going to drive me crazy. I'll hope for that 50% chance that all this does is lose us another villager, not two. |
08-02-2011, 12:15 PM | #1408 | |
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Or you and Jag are the last wolves trying to set up me and Jackal. All I know is I am voting you or Jackal today, just not sure which one yet. You said the person to claim a role first should get the benefit of the doubt, and I usually agreee, unless it is end game and a good time for a reveal. |
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08-02-2011, 12:19 PM | #1409 | |
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My major victory condition was to scan Inigo - what do you want me to do? Ignore the victory conditions and ruin the game concept? I get an "additional" victory for the village winning a-a-a-and an additional minor victory for the minor victory condition you had at the start of the game. |
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08-02-2011, 12:25 PM | #1410 | |
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You see you're trying to portray us voting you as some sort of crazy move on our part because, well, why? Because you revealed as Buttercup first? Despite the fact that it was pretty obvious that any savvy wolf was going to reveal as Buttercup to save their skin at this stage? Apart from that the case against you is the same as yesterday, when I voted you. So how come it's so much more embarrassing for me to vote for you today compared to yesterday (when, if I remember correctly, I was possibly voting you because of some shady victory condition I had). |
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08-02-2011, 12:29 PM | #1411 | |
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Lathum - if you believe Jackal is the wolf then who do you see as his partner? If you're a villager then it must be either Autumn or JAG. If it's JAG then why on earth did he switch his vote from Autumn to mau exactly on deadline yesterday? Why pull that kind of stunt when he knew both players were villagers? If you think Autumn and Jackal are wolves then vote Autumn who we know isn't the brutal. |
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08-02-2011, 12:33 PM | #1412 | |
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not complaining, just asking. Don't begrudge anyone for going for win conditions although I don't think I'd want to screw the village over to do it. Not that I'm saying you did. Maybe if I were in that place I'd think differently. But like I said just trying to figure these rules out and now I finally have. |
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08-02-2011, 12:35 PM | #1413 | |
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I meant I don't begrudge... |
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08-02-2011, 12:37 PM | #1414 |
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Flight delay :P A "hydrualic leak" blech. delayed at least an hour they said, but then they called me to the podium, changed my flights to a totally different plane on a totally different flight. ...and upgraded me to first class.
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08-02-2011, 12:38 PM | #1415 |
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Because I think it's crazy, Narc. I don't know, I'm done belaboring the point. Maybe when you look at Lathum's posts it will become obvious to you you're barking up the wrong tree. Look back and you'll see he pairs several suspects in each of his posts, but changes them. Yesterday it was me and someone else, then it was that person and jackal within the span of a few hours.
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08-02-2011, 01:00 PM | #1416 |
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OK I'm getting a sinking feeling that there might be three wolves left; JAG, Autumn and Lathum. I think it's still possible for us to win, although the best we get is a 50:50 shot. But if it's true then we're currently 4:3 and that means that Telle absolutely has to vote Autumn today. She should still protect Jackal (because this is probably me just being paranoid and we don't want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because I'm having another of my paranoia attacks). Then we see what Autumn shows up as tomorrow.
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08-02-2011, 01:03 PM | #1417 |
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Well that's in my mind narc but I'm not going to really woory about it now.
telle's on now so you can talk to her. because of the buttercup conversion 3 wolves do make sense. I think the game would have ended if there were 4 wolves. or maybe that it would end tonight. I so hate the brutal rule. |
08-02-2011, 01:03 PM | #1418 |
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So, how's that for crazy then?
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08-02-2011, 01:04 PM | #1419 |
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crazy
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08-02-2011, 01:05 PM | #1420 |
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gotta run, later.
I'm turning into an alligator (Jackal that's your queue) |
08-02-2011, 01:07 PM | #1421 | |
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Why would it end when we're currently 4:3? We lynch a wolf and we're 4:2. They NK someone we're 3:2. We lynch the non-brutal wolf and we're 3:1 - they NK Buttercup and there's a 50% chance they (and one of the current villager) win, otherwise it's 2:1 and we lynch the brutal. |
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08-02-2011, 01:08 PM | #1422 |
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There could still be three wolves remaining, as their are 7 players total. Although I'm not sure how the neutral role fits into that.. does he count as a villager when counting up how many wolves vs villagers there are?
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08-02-2011, 01:11 PM | #1423 |
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Telle, any thoughts?
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08-02-2011, 01:13 PM | #1424 | |
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I think the neutral role (Crimson) is counted as a villager. My impression that the role is really a villager with special victory conditions. But you're right we should probably ask Eagle. Eagle: Does the Dread Pirate Roberts count as a villager for the villager:wolf total? |
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08-02-2011, 01:14 PM | #1425 |
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I'm inclined to disbelieve Autumn. And the fact that he revealed first thing today and then proceeds to tell us how generally the first to reveal is telling the truth.. well, that just doesn't sit well with me. Feels more like he purposely revealed nice and early just so he could say that.
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08-02-2011, 01:25 PM | #1426 |
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08-02-2011, 01:25 PM | #1427 |
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If you're going to vote Autumn then it doesn't currently matter which side Lathum is on. As long as we three cleared vote as a bloc along with Jackal then we're fine.
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08-02-2011, 01:27 PM | #1428 |
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I can guarantee Jackal will vote along with you if you vote me.
Really, what do you think a villager buttercup would do this morning, after basically revealing at deadline last night, and having people bouncing around the idea that I was probably Buttercup this mornign? Not reveal and let people try to lynch me today? Or reveal right away so people can get a good vote in and catch a wolf before I possibly die at night? I'm not sure what you guys think I could have done differently. |
08-02-2011, 01:52 PM | #1429 |
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vote Autumn
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08-02-2011, 01:59 PM | #1430 |
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I leave for class in a half hour and then I won't be back on until 9 or so probably. So basically what I'm saying is good luck village, I hope you roll well.
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08-02-2011, 02:22 PM | #1431 |
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OK I'm away until tomorrow as well.
Telle, Eagle says he will accept conditionals so check and see if you can change who you protect based on Autumn's allegiance. If it turns out he is a villager then you'll be wanting to protect someone who isn't Lathum or Jackal. I believe that there's still a slim chance we can win if Autumn is telling the truth. But I believe your base protection should be Jackal. If you're not allowed a conditional based on allegiance then just protect him. If you don't move from Autumn then it doesn't matter what Lathum or JAG says or does. Remember that JAG has already shown that people can move their vote at the last second. |
08-02-2011, 02:23 PM | #1432 |
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Vote Nightfall
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08-02-2011, 02:38 PM | #1433 |
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vote nightfall
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08-02-2011, 02:40 PM | #1434 |
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Suppose we might as well, though Autumn won't be back until 9 he said, assuming he'd want to vote nightfall anyways.
VOTE NIGHTFALL |
08-02-2011, 02:44 PM | #1435 |
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Vote Autumn
He seems much more desperate than Jackal Vote Nightfall |
08-02-2011, 03:27 PM | #1436 |
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As of 1315:
Autumn 6 - JAG (1313), Narcizo (1336), CrimsonFox (1349), The Jackal (1359), Telle (1429), Lathum (1435) Lathum 1 - Autumn (1387) Nightfall 4 - Narcizo (1432), Telle (1433), The Jackal (1434), Lathum (1435) |
08-02-2011, 03:28 PM | #1437 |
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Vote Nightfall
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08-02-2011, 03:34 PM | #1438 |
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As of 1437:
Autumn 6 - JAG (1313), Narcizo (1336), CrimsonFox (1349), The Jackal (1359), Telle (1429), Lathum (1435) Lathum 1 - Autumn (1387) Nightfall 5 - Narcizo (1432), Telle (1433), The Jackal (1434), Lathum (1435), JAG (1437) |
08-02-2011, 03:37 PM | #1439 |
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As we have only 2 who have not voted nightfall and everyone has already voted. Those two cannot change the result of the vote at this point.
Especially since only one of them can actually change his vote which at best makes it 5-2. I will process the day shortly. May not do night results until after I get home so I have my doc in front of me for that. |
08-02-2011, 03:42 PM | #1440 |
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I am SO not good at waiting.. *sighs*
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08-02-2011, 03:48 PM | #1441 |
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We're throwing Autumn off the cliffs of insanity, watch how he flies!
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08-02-2011, 03:48 PM | #1442 |
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Everyone is quick to judge today. One steps forward and declares himself to actually be herself and be the Princess. Another steps forward with the same claim. You do not know which to believe (except the fact that this kingdom must have one butt ugly Princess) but soon a concensus is arrived at.
Autumn is not what he appears. String him up. He struggles violently as you drag him to the gallows. All of you must gather near to pull him to the top and put the noose around his neck. Yet you feel strangely in danger as you do. He swipes out towards you but you step back. The Jackal grabs the lever and pulls. Autumn drops and is swinging from the rope. You draw near to inspect him and then you see it. How could you miss that...those... before. The perfect breasts, the smooth skin. He...er... she looks so much different now. Autumn was the Princess. Six of you remain. The Jackal drops to the ground and then springs towards Narcizo. His teeth rip into Narc's neck and soon that rodent has devoured him whole. JAG quickly pulls out a sword and slashes into CrimsonFox who drops to his knees. Lathum tries to hit Telle but misses... Inconceivable! he cries out. JAG quickly takes care of Telle with a swift blow. The Jackal stares at JAG and Lathum. Lathum calls out... "you moron, we were waiting for you to kill someone" The Jackal grunts something that sounds oddly enough to be "my bad". JAG stares at his six fingers and wonders if this makes him the next in line to be the Prince.... but what lousy remaining choices he has for Princess. The wolves win!!! Danny wins as the original DPR. Narcizo wins as the second DPR. All others, consider yourselves the Bengals. |
08-02-2011, 03:49 PM | #1443 |
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08-02-2011, 03:50 PM | #1444 |
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Sorry guys I tried to kill CF last night and Telle blocked it. I'd figured you were gonna stop Telle from using her ability and kill her, but oh well, this worked.
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08-02-2011, 03:50 PM | #1445 |
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Well now.. that was not quite the ending I was hoping for.
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08-02-2011, 03:51 PM | #1446 |
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I'll be online later to discuss. Hope you enjoyed it. Was very entertaining reading the PM's.
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08-02-2011, 03:51 PM | #1447 |
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Was a great game EF! I definitely think it would be fun to run it again with more people.
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08-02-2011, 03:54 PM | #1448 |
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08-02-2011, 03:56 PM | #1449 | |
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I was the Rodent of Unusual Size, couldn't communicate with the other wolves, we had no idea who each other were (though I figured it out through scanning), and I had a one-time kill of my own, and tried to use it last night. |
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08-02-2011, 03:57 PM | #1450 |
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Ahhh.. that makes sense. I kept going back and forth on whether or not to protect myself or CF, and guess I at least made one right decision in this game
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