Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533 - Page 29

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Fine work on the dola, path. Except you forgot to put in the dola and no editing allowed.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 04:30 PM

Dola - this is easy.

path12 · 07-13-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Fine work on the dola, path. Except you forgot to put in the dola and no editing allowed.

Shit, I hadn't even noticed!

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 04:40 PM

catching up, just got home from work.

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

catching up, just got home from work.

here I'll help you out

vote hoops and you're probally next tomorrow

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 04:43 PM

Poor Chubby.

path12 · 07-13-2006, 04:44 PM

Hoops, at the risk of pissing people off, what happened in the attack yesterday?

path12 · 07-13-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

here I'll help you out

vote hoops and you're probally next tomorrow

Sorry Chubby, he's right.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 04:46 PM

Path, can you be a little more clear in terms of what you are asking? I'll try to give you a direct answer.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Path, can you be a little more clear in terms of what you are asking? I'll try to give you a direct answer.

Can we just ignore him and not ask questions.

-Talgian

SnDvls · 07-13-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Path, can you be a little more clear in terms of what you are asking? I'll try to give you a direct answer.

sure what happened to me?

path12 · 07-13-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Can we just ignore him and not ask questions.

-Talgian

Why? Even if it's 90% bullshit, wouldn't you want to hear a spawns theory of what happened to our ship yesterday? I would.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Why? Even if it's 90% bullshit, wouldn't you want to hear a spawns theory of what happened to our ship yesterday? I would.

Because it will be full of lies, and lead only to more suspicision and tension amongst the survivors. It's just a ploy. And like you say, it'll be at least 90% BS, so it's worthless. And then if one of us has an idea about someone or some event, but hoops said it happened, that idea will be dismissed, even if it's valid, based on the fact that this lying spawn said it.

-Talgian

Abe Sargent · 07-13-2006, 05:02 PM

Agree, leave hoops to die his death

Abe Sargent · 07-13-2006, 05:02 PM

Hell, I hit post 4000 earlier today and didn't notice

Abe Sargent · 07-13-2006, 05:05 PM

My sage words in my 4000th post? "Kwit Does." Whoot

Fouts · 07-13-2006, 05:07 PM

The first time I've seen somebody confess, but I suppose its a great chance to pass some misinformation. Good to know I was right about you though.

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:07 PM

Well obviously I...

Vote hoopsguy

that fucker for planting that bastard in me. However...

the reason I looked grim coming out of the sickbay was because all that poking and prodding frickin hurt evidentally. However, I WAS CURED. bullet is full of crap saying he couldn't save me.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

the reason I looked grim coming out of the sickbay was because all that poking and prodding frickin hurt evidentally. However, I WAS CURED. bullet is full of crap saying he couldn't save me.

Okay, here's the thing. If bullet was lying about you not being cured, then one would think he's a spawn. If he was a spawn, he would have said you were clean.
1. This immediately casts a ton of suspicision on both dubb and me, and the captain for so strongly supporting everything dubb said.
2. It allows another spawn to come into the world.

So, it makes no sense that bullet would lie. Ergo, you are trying to save yourself. Admirable, I'm sure any of us would do the same thing, but sorry, you're kind of infected.

-Talgian

path12 · 07-13-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

1. This immediately casts a ton of suspicision on both dubb and me, and the captain for so strongly supporting everything dubb said.

But....but.....hoops said there were multiple command infections!!!!

I kid.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:19 PM

SnDvls, I would have expected your PMs to make this sort of clear for you. The Overlord didn't want you directing missions yesterday. He didn't have a power that allowed him to kill you outright, but he did have an ability to strip you of your powers for the day and he exercised it. Which is why there was an issue when you used your duplicant ability.

I wish Dubb would have spied on you last night instead of me, because you definitely looked suspect for a long time. But with the doctor clearing you and you cheating the system already, you were in a good spot by the end of the day. And I definitely regret not trying to lead an effort against you when I think it could have been tilted yesterday. Dumb, dumb, dumb on my part.

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Okay, here's the thing. If bullet was lying about you not being cured, then one would think he's a spawn. If he was a spawn, he would have said you were clean.
1. This immediately casts a ton of suspicision on both dubb and me, and the captain for so strongly supporting everything dubb said.
2. It allows another spawn to come into the world.

So, it makes no sense that bullet would lie. Ergo, you are trying to save yourself. Admirable, I'm sure any of us would do the same thing, but sorry, you're kind of infected.

-Talgian

No, you're just trying to save yourself I'm pretty sure.

If (bullet) posting I'm cured casts supicision on KWhit, then who do you think people are going to side with? bullet or KWhit? I'm pretty damn sure they AREN'T going to be against the Captain in that situation. That puts bullet on the chopping block tomorrow, why would he do something that would basically ensure himself being voted off?

He wouldn't.

As a spawn he wins either way. If I couldn't have been saved I either become a spawn or get lynched, either way a survivor is eliminated.

If I am saved, say I wasn't to protect myself (I don't know what role he is or how important it is) and gurentee being on protected lists despite being a spawn and watch me get lynched, again eliminating a survivor.

I do know that I was cured and bullet is lying. If he's lying, then he's a spawn. He's my vote for tomorrow.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:23 PM

So, that was one seriously direct answer, wasn't it?

The guys who have played with me as a bad guy know that I tell the truth as often as I possibly can in these games. Obviously the potential presence of an empath changes some of that, but I'm not going to tell 100% lies. Ask me a question and you might (probably not) actually get an honest answer. Seriously!

Schmidty · 07-13-2006, 05:27 PM

Yesterday - I tested this statement from SnDvls: "bullet is clean". The PM said basically the same thing the one I got today from dubb's sentence: He believes 100% that he is telling the truth.

With that said, unless SnDvls was already infected, or was infected after, Chubby is lying his ass off.

path12 · 07-13-2006, 05:29 PM

Well, I'm not asking anything more. But I do find some peoples reactions to this whole thing to be very interesting. I've played with most all of you and I think everyone in this game is intelligent enough to know to take any answer hoops might give with a grain of salt.

bulletsponge · 07-13-2006, 05:30 PM

Sorry Chubby, but once Hoops admited he was a spawn your chances of survival droped. and there IS something in you that i couldnt remove. i wish i could have grabed that slimy spawn out of your butt, it would mean 1 more survivore and 1 fewer spawn that we have to kill.

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Yesterday - I tested this statement from SnDvls: "bullet is clean". The PM said basically the same thing the one I got today from dubb's sentence: He believes 100% that he is telling the truth.

With that said, unless SnDvls was already infected, or was infected after, Chubby is lying his ass off.

How am I lying?

SnDvls believes bullet is "clean". Nothing about whether SnDvls thinks bullet is a spawn or not.

All I know is what I got in my PM. i'd quote it if I could but I can't. I was cured. Hell, I'd look grim too if I found out I was cured but realized the doctor was going to say I wasn't...

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Sorry Chubby, but once Hoops admited he was a spawn your chances of survival droped. and there IS something in you that i couldnt remove. i wish i could have grabed that slimy spawn out of your butt, it would mean 1 more survivore and 1 fewer spawn that we have to kill.

How?

It was pretty establieshed (even before I got home from work) that hoops was a spawn and he was the one that infected me.

The multitude of votes for him before his "reveal" attests to that. The chances of my survival dropped because you're lying about my health.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:33 PM

Path, I'm very surprised by it. The easiest thing for me to do at this point is to just shut down and walk away from the computer. But I've had fun with this game and would like to squeeze a few more hours of life out of it. I'm just amazed that so few people would want to take me up on this.

Here is another statement for someone to test if they are so inclined:

"Not every answer I give in Day 3, after revealing I was spawn and would take questions, has been a lie".

Take that one and run with it. If it comes back that I'm lying with that quote, then you KNOW you can disregard everything I've said. Seems like a real win for you guys. And if not, then use a little common sense evaluating what I have said in my answers.

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I do know that I was cured and bullet is lying. If he's lying, then he's a spawn. He's my vote for tomorrow.

Well, you're in my absolute trust group, so hopefully I'd know if you changed even more and became a full out spawn. If I don't get a PM saying I can trust you again then presumably you aren't cured.

-Talgian

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:34 PM

Chubby, Mr. Soon-to-be-spawn, would you like to ask some questions?

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Well, you're in my absolute trust group, so hopefully I'd know if you changed even more and became a full out spawn. If I don't get a PM saying I can trust you again then presumably you aren't cured.

-Talgian

Actually, looking at the wording, I wouldn't know if you became full out spawn. Maybe not if you rejoined. The text only reads when you leave the group, nothing about falling further or coming back to it.

-Talgian

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Chubby, Mr. Soon-to-be-spawn, would you like to ask some questions?

Well unless someone is coming after me again tonight, I'm not going to be a spawn.

Why come after me with the Security HQ already damaged? It's not like I have any abilities that need to be taken out of play with the damage.

I will be placing myself, alone, in the brig tonight to show everyone that I WAS cured.

path12 · 07-13-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

I will be placing myself, alone, in the brig tonight to show everyone that I WAS cured.

How does that prove anything?

Chubby · 07-13-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

How does that prove anything?

If I'm going to be a spawn and am going to die anyways, that wouldn't I rather try to cause mayhem anyways?

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

How does that prove anything?

It's irrelevant. Chubby's 1 AP was used up on an away mission. He can't go into the brig tonight.

Now what can be done tonight is the killing of the slaves, so they aren't a liability hanging around.

-Talgian

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:45 PM

Chubby, we chose you because you were exhausted, could spy, and controlled the brig. We wanted freedom of movement, so we were looking to reduce the number of people who could spy on us. Also, you had the potential to stock the brig for us, which can be played a ton of different ways. Bring people to us, keep people in there we want to block from acting against us, etc.

bulletsponge · 07-13-2006, 05:49 PM

Hoops how many spawns are there? and do you know who the Overlord is?

*takes answers with a grain of salt* but still interested in hoops answers

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 05:50 PM

Do I still have an AP or was it used during the Away Team run?

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

It's irrelevant. Chubby's 1 AP was used up on an away mission. He can't go into the brig tonight.

Now what can be done tonight is the killing of the slaves, so they aren't a liability hanging around.

-Talgian

I think we should keep the slaves alive for another night and through tomorrow. We might need them to run a water and/or crystalium mission tomorrow and, as long as the slave quarters are in good condition, they are no threat.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:53 PM

Bullet, I've already answered the first question - three current spawns, with an additional two hanging out in the slave pens. That is what my answer was last time, right? Although that answer is kind of in flux with Chubby, I suppose. Or ... well, I don't want to say too much.

Overlord is WSUCougar. And you can't vote for him, I tried to on the first day and was told by Barkeep that it was illegal. So good luck with that ship - hope it works out for you.

bulletsponge · 07-13-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think we should keep the slaves alive for another night and through tomorrow. We might need them to run a water and/or crystalium mission tomorrow and, as long as the slave quarters are in good condition, they are no threat.

agreed

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:55 PM

Good thinking, Swaggs. Definitely want the slaves around, they are such busy little miners for you. And please disregard any mention I have made about spawn among them.

Swaggs · 07-13-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Good thinking, Swaggs. Definitely want the slaves around, they are such busy little miners for you. And please disregard any mention I have made about spawn among them.

You got it, buddy.

Maybe, if they are well behaved, we will feed them what is left of you after tonight.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 05:59 PM

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 06:00 PM

OK, that statement is a lie. I'll save the empath the need to scan it. I'm ashamed of myself for ripping off Star Wars.

Alan T · 07-13-2006, 06:01 PM

Well at least in what could be a very boring runaway vote day, Hoops is making it more interesting entertainment value wise

hoopsguy · 07-13-2006, 06:05 PM

Alan, it is only because I'm trying to stop Team Survivor from planning important events. It isn't because I'm actually trying to have fun with the game that is ending too soon

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think we should keep the slaves alive for another night and through tomorrow. We might need them to run a water and/or crystalium mission tomorrow and, as long as the slave quarters are in good condition, they are no threat.

Right, nothing screams good idea like a security threat. The if the slaves quarters stay safe is a huge if. Swaggs, you're wounded. Anyone else who can guard it is in exhausted. Not exactly prime guards, and they have to split between the 3 more important locations and spying. The slaves should die.

-Talgian

Talgian · 07-13-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Talgian

Right, nothing screams good idea like a security threat. The if the slaves quarters stay safe is a huge if. Swaggs, you're wounded. Anyone else who can guard it is in exhausted. Not exactly prime guards, and they have to split between the 3 more important locations and spying. The slaves should die.

-Talgian

Also, I just realized Dubbs went on an away mission, so we don't have phasers tonight either. All the more reason to limit what the guards have to guard.

-Talgian

07-13-2006, 04:43 PM	#1406
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Poor Chubby. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 04:44 PM	#1407
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Hoops, at the risk of pissing people off, what happened in the attack yesterday? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-13-2006, 05:02 PM	#1414
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Agree, leave hoops to die his death __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-13-2006, 05:02 PM	#1415
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Hell, I hit post 4000 earlier today and didn't notice __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-13-2006, 05:05 PM	#1416
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	My sage words in my 4000th post? "Kwit Does." Whoot __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-13-2006, 04:29 PM	#1401
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Fine work on the dola, path. Except you forgot to put in the dola and no editing allowed.

07-13-2006, 04:30 PM	#1402
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - this is easy.

07-13-2006, 04:40 PM	#1404
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	catching up, just got home from work.

07-13-2006, 04:46 PM	#1409
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Path, can you be a little more clear in terms of what you are asking? I'll try to give you a direct answer.

07-13-2006, 05:07 PM	#1417
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	The first time I've seen somebody confess, but I suppose its a great chance to pass some misinformation. Good to know I was right about you though.

07-13-2006, 05:07 PM	#1418
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Well obviously I... Vote hoopsguy that fucker for planting that bastard in me. However... the reason I looked grim coming out of the sickbay was because all that poking and prodding frickin hurt evidentally. However, I WAS CURED. bullet is full of crap saying he couldn't save me.

07-13-2006, 05:19 PM	#1421
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	SnDvls, I would have expected your PMs to make this sort of clear for you. The Overlord didn't want you directing missions yesterday. He didn't have a power that allowed him to kill you outright, but he did have an ability to strip you of your powers for the day and he exercised it. Which is why there was an issue when you used your duplicant ability. I wish Dubb would have spied on you last night instead of me, because you definitely looked suspect for a long time. But with the doctor clearing you and you cheating the system already, you were in a good spot by the end of the day. And I definitely regret not trying to lead an effort against you when I think it could have been tilted yesterday. Dumb, dumb, dumb on my part.

07-13-2006, 05:23 PM	#1423
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	So, that was one seriously direct answer, wasn't it? The guys who have played with me as a bad guy know that I tell the truth as often as I possibly can in these games. Obviously the potential presence of an empath changes some of that, but I'm not going to tell 100% lies. Ask me a question and you might (probably not) actually get an honest answer. Seriously!

07-13-2006, 05:27 PM	#1424
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Yesterday - I tested this statement from SnDvls: "bullet is clean". The PM said basically the same thing the one I got today from dubb's sentence: He believes 100% that he is telling the truth. With that said, unless SnDvls was already infected, or was infected after, Chubby is lying his ass off.

07-13-2006, 05:29 PM	#1425
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Well, I'm not asking anything more. But I do find some peoples reactions to this whole thing to be very interesting. I've played with most all of you and I think everyone in this game is intelligent enough to know to take any answer hoops might give with a grain of salt. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-13-2006, 05:30 PM	#1426
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Sorry Chubby, but once Hoops admited he was a spawn your chances of survival droped. and there IS something in you that i couldnt remove. i wish i could have grabed that slimy spawn out of your butt, it would mean 1 more survivore and 1 fewer spawn that we have to kill.

07-13-2006, 05:33 PM	#1429
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Path, I'm very surprised by it. The easiest thing for me to do at this point is to just shut down and walk away from the computer. But I've had fun with this game and would like to squeeze a few more hours of life out of it. I'm just amazed that so few people would want to take me up on this. Here is another statement for someone to test if they are so inclined: "Not every answer I give in Day 3, after revealing I was spawn and would take questions, has been a lie". Take that one and run with it. If it comes back that I'm lying with that quote, then you KNOW you can disregard everything I've said. Seems like a real win for you guys. And if not, then use a little common sense evaluating what I have said in my answers.

07-13-2006, 05:34 PM	#1431
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Chubby, Mr. Soon-to-be-spawn, would you like to ask some questions?

07-13-2006, 05:45 PM	#1437
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Chubby, we chose you because you were exhausted, could spy, and controlled the brig. We wanted freedom of movement, so we were looking to reduce the number of people who could spy on us. Also, you had the potential to stock the brig for us, which can be played a ton of different ways. Bring people to us, keep people in there we want to block from acting against us, etc.

07-13-2006, 05:49 PM	#1438
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Hoops how many spawns are there? and do you know who the Overlord is? takes answers with a grain of salt but still interested in hoops answers

07-13-2006, 05:50 PM	#1439
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Do I still have an AP or was it used during the Away Team run? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-13-2006, 05:53 PM	#1441
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Bullet, I've already answered the first question - three current spawns, with an additional two hanging out in the slave pens. That is what my answer was last time, right? Although that answer is kind of in flux with Chubby, I suppose. Or ... well, I don't want to say too much. Overlord is WSUCougar. And you can't vote for him, I tried to on the first day and was told by Barkeep that it was illegal. So good luck with that ship - hope it works out for you.

07-13-2006, 05:55 PM	#1443
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Good thinking, Swaggs. Definitely want the slaves around, they are such busy little miners for you. And please disregard any mention I have made about spawn among them.

07-13-2006, 05:59 PM	#1445
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

07-13-2006, 06:00 PM	#1446
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, that statement is a lie. I'll save the empath the need to scan it. I'm ashamed of myself for ripping off Star Wars.

07-13-2006, 06:01 PM	#1447
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Well at least in what could be a very boring runaway vote day, Hoops is making it more interesting entertainment value wise

07-13-2006, 06:05 PM	#1448
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Alan, it is only because I'm trying to stop Team Survivor from planning important events. It isn't because I'm actually trying to have fun with the game that is ending too soon

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