2023 NFL Regular Season Thread

[Ghost Econ]

That was a terrible throw. How is Desmond Ritter paid to play football?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

That was a terrible throw. How is Desmond Ritter paid to play football?

It is just bad coaching. According what I'm seeing, it was Bijan that ran the wrong route. He was supposed to be there and instead he was running the same route as Jonnu Smith. As hyped as he was as being a receiving threat, he can't has been awful as a receiver. It is the same problem with Pitts. He can run seams and simple routes. but ask him to read off the safety and he gets lost.

[AlexB]

The UK coverage has just shown a Steelers play, and wow.

Diontae Johnson barely moved on an run to his side (albeit only just), then ignored the fumbled ball on the ground, and then didn’t bother chasing after the defender that recovered it.

It was twice as poor as anything Chase Claypool ever did

Diontae Johnson (No. 18) appeared to have a chance at this loose ball, but was not able to make it happen pic.twitter.com/B736lPSx8H

— NFL on CBS �� (@NFLonCBS) November 26, 2023

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by AlexB

The UK coverage has just shown a Steelers play, and wow.

Diontae Johnson barely moved on an run to his side (albeit only just), then ignored the fumbled ball on the ground, and then didn’t bother chasing after the defender that recovered it.

It was twice as poor as anything Chase Claypool ever did

I saw that. That guy shouldn't be allowed back on the field for awhile.

[JPhillips]

Tommy DeVito's mom looks shockingly like Jennifer Coolidge.

[Ksyrup]

Fired the OC and Pickett has damn near 300 yards.

[GrantDawg]

The Falcons suck, and are now the NFC South Division leaders.

[molson]

Patriots kicker MVP of the day for keeping that game out of overtime.

[GrantDawg]

Bryce Young looks so much like a kid put on his dads uniform and ran on to the field.

[CrimsonFox]

Hot take. Buffalo bills will upset the eagles

[CrimsonFox]

Open open open....all day all night. That right side

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Hot take. Buffalo bills will upset the eagles

Eagles have not nearly been as good this year as their record suggests and really should have lost to the Chiefs. Between this Bills game and their next two games, I figure they suffer at least two losses over the next three weeks.

[CrimsonFox]

Are they ever going to call those horse collar penalties?

[CrimsonFox]

Wait I spaced out for a sec. Bills just kicked a fg. How do they have the ball again lol

[Ksyrup]

What absolute bullshit roughing calls in this league. Dorian Thompson-Robinson got hit in the middle of a throw shoulder to chest and yes, he took a hard hit and may not even return, I don't know, but a hit that hurts someone is not necessarily a penalty. Jesus I hate the way they officiate in this league.

[Ksyrup]

And then a fumble. That's a "ball don't lie" moment if I ever saw one.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The Falcons suck, and are now the NFC South Division leaders.

Watching that game, I was laughing at the idea that one of those two teams is likely to host a playoff game.

(And, granted, lose by three scores to the Cowboys or Seahawks. But, still, hosting a playoff game).

[CrimsonFox]

Bills kicker doesn't want to win

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah with this much rain all you can do is run

[Ksyrup]

Here's a statement that about 6 weeks ago would have sounded absurd:

The Broncos may really regret that loss to the Jets by the end of the year if it costs them a playoff spot.

[Ksyrup]

So... the Red Zone channel studio has to evacuate because an alarm is going off. You could hear it on the TV. Wife and I were trying to figure out what we were hearing.

So they just left it on the Eages/Bills games and said sorry!

I sure as hell hope someone didn't burn their popcorn...

[CrimsonFox]

oh man that smell

[molson]

Scott Hansen willing to die in a fiery inferno rather than break his solemn promise to bring us 7 hours of uninterrupted football coverage.

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Watching that game, I was laughing at the idea that one of those two teams is likely to host a playoff game.

(And, granted, lose by three scores to the Cowboys or Seahawks. But, still, hosting a playoff game).

I'm not writing off the Bucs yet. They have two against the Panthers and one each against the Falcons and the Saints. Although the Falcons have the inside track and have Jets, Panthers and Bears.

[CrimsonFox]

the NFC south is so lol.

seriously if there was ever the need for a rule that teams must have > .500 record to make the playoffs, this is the year

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

I'm not writing off the Bucs yet. They have two against the Panthers and one each against the Falcons and the Saints. Although the Falcons have the inside track and have Jets, Panthers and Bears.

Oh yeah. Could be Baker Mayfield hosting a playoff game. The NFC South is delivering this year.

[Ksyrup]

The refereeing in this league is terrible.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The refereeing in this league is terrible.

I mean it always has been. The challenges didn't fix it either.

To revisit the roughing the passer thing. Did I hear right that they changed what is considered roughing the passer this year?

[CrimsonFox]

has the nfl ever done a thing where they overturned a game result?

[thesloppy]

Jason Garret sucks. They just keep increasing how many analysts/commentators each station has, but none of them are worth a shit.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Jason Garret sucks. They just keep increasing how many analysts/commentators each station has, but none of them are worth a shit.

I find that I like Greg Olsen but I was trying to think of anyone else that's "good". I don't care for Romo or Collinsworth, really. TBH, I don't think I'm the target audience. I want insightful analysis without hyperbole. That doesn't really seem to be what they want to provide for me.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Bobble

analysis without hyperbole

Yes. This would be nice.

[Ksyrup]

Frank Reich fired. No coming back from this one.

[albionmoonlight]

He's 61. Could just retire.

If not, I think that he's lost enough of his shine that even an OC position might be hard to find.

Could probably get on as a QB coach/offensive assistant somewhere.

[albionmoonlight]

Someone just pointed out that even Urban Meyer got more time . . .

Oof, Frank.

[miami_fan]

So is this a "You told me to draft the Bryce Young guy You told me that you could make him the next Drew Brees. This is terrible." firing?

or

Is this a "I drafted the next Drew Brees and look what you did to him. This is terrible." firing?

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Frank Reich fired. No coming back from this one.

So no Third Reich coached NFL team?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Frank Reich fired. No coming back from this one.

Fired during the season in back to back years is an impressive feat.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

So no Third Reich coached NFL team?

[Brian Swartz]

I think Bobble hit on the answer. It's not so much that the commentators are 'good' or 'suck', but that they aren't doing what you want them to do - most likely because the broadcasters don't think that's what most of the fans/viewers are actually looking for.

[CrimsonFox]

I have been liking Troy Aikman strangely enough.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I think Bobble hit on the answer. It's not so much that the commentators are 'good' or 'suck', but that they aren't doing what you want them to do - most likely because the broadcasters don't think that's what most of the fans/viewers are actually looking for.

I don't think so. A fair number of the people were talking about were objectively better at the exact same job a handful of years ago (Al Michaels, the whole Fox crew, etc) and they don't replace broadcasters/analysts that are long in the tooth they just add new ones at the ends of the table (or whole new tables) which only creates noise. Even if you love the current state of lowest-common-denominator sports commentary it's gotten obviously worse over the past few years.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I think Bobble hit on the answer. It's not so much that the commentators are 'good' or 'suck', but that they aren't doing what you want them to do - most likely because the broadcasters don't think that's what most of the fans/viewers are actually looking for.

I would agree with this. I think the commentators are broadcasting at like intermediate/advanced Madden game level. Yeah, you will get a bit of hardcore fan stuff but for the most part they are talking to the casual fans because well because the hardcore fans stop paying attention years ago. They have to entertain those folks. They don't have to entertain us. They could probably bring in someone who could talk at an expert level that will teach the hardcore fan things. I for one would enjoy that. Unfortunately I probably would not hear it because I would be explaining even more things to the casuals I may be watching the game with than I did before.

If there were no regards to costs, every game would be a multicast. A Nickelodeon type broadcast, a main broadcast similar to what we have now, and a broadcast with a panel of whoever is considered the best of people who played/coached/executive, an analytics person, and an gambling expert to cover that area. Different strokes for different folks

[MIJB#19]

The best sports broadcasts are those where the connection with the commentators is lost, while the stadium crowd noise is still running.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I don't think so. A fair number of the people were talking about were objectively better at the exact same job a handful of years ago (Al Michaels, the whole Fox crew, etc) and they don't replace broadcasters/analysts that are long in the tooth they just add new ones at the ends of the table (or whole new tables) which only creates noise. Even if you love the current state of lowest-common-denominator sports commentary it's gotten obviously worse over the past few years.

But how much of that is a function of how much more we all hear now than we did then?

I mean, most people only heard a fraction of the crews once upon a time. Now? Now we hear a dozen or more a week a lot of times.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But how much of that is a function of how much more we all hear now than we did then?

I mean, most people only heard a fraction of the crews once upon a time. Now? Now we hear a dozen or more a week a lot of times.

For sure that's a large part of it. As plenty of folks have noted, in here and elsewhere, it's an obvious strategy of "try to appeal to as many people as possible for as much time as possible" without much regard to the quality of what's going out, as long as something is getting broadcast 24/7. I think the amount of scripted/canned content has also increased over the years, and this feels like peak shitty NFL commentary in large part because the NFL media machine has gotten sophisticated enough to serve us content and games practically all the time, but not sophisticated enough to make all of it actually interesting or good.

...and the part that rubs me the most is I don't believe that even the casual fans enjoy seeing 4 dozen different analysts repeat canned opinions out of their earpiece, but I guess what I am undervaluing is that all of this constant, easily-digested content lowers the barrier of entry for new fans.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

but I guess what I am undervaluing is that all of this constant, easily-digested content lowers the barrier of entry for new fans.

That's certainly a theory I reckon but at the same time ... who could POSSIBLY hear some of the stuff and think "hey, this makes me MORE interested"?

I mean, you can't really have a lower opinion of the average human being than I already possess but even I struggle to make that scenario work.

[Coffee Warlord]

They called a personal foul on the Bears for a player pulling off his helmet. One problem. He took it off because his facemask had broken.

[sovereignstar v2]

Excuses excuses lol

[Coffee Warlord]

Justin Fields presently averaging 0.8 yards per throw.