Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER) - Page 29

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

when did AE vote Racer originally? am i crazy, or was it right after me, late last night.

because if it was and Racer turns up a titan, then i think maybe we look at AE and say "he was trying to hide a vote on racer with me, but then pulled his vote when racer got in trouble"

but that's only if racer turns up a titan

His pulling his vote off of Racer just set off alarms ringing in my head.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:35 PM

I'm going to try very hard to not have you piss me off DT.

I had no idea what was going on last night as I was fighting with my wife. IF you can't understand that, then I should have realized I need to stay away from this stupid game.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm going to try very hard to not have you piss me off DT.

I had no idea what was going on last night as I was fighting with my wife. IF you can't understand that, then I should have realized I need to stay away from this stupid game.

Whoa there, ae. I'm sure DT was only wondering about you pulling off your vote. Nothing personal.

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 01:42 PM

AE, I don't believe you had a vote on Racer. You voted for Telle in Post #1273. Or at least that is what I have written down.

Post #1253 - DT votes Racer
Post #1273 - AE votes Telle
Post #1290 - RA votes Cronin
Post #1293 - NC votes Cronin
Post #1297 - NC unvotes Cronin
Post #1313 - Cronin votes Chief
Post #1337 - Purdue votes Cronin
Post #1346 - Anxiety votes Chief
Post #1355 - Lathum votes Racer
Post #1356 - Cronin unvotes Hoops, votes Racer (invalid)
Post #1362 - Purdue unvotes Cronin, votes AC
Post #1368 - Cronin unvotes, votes Racer
Post #1372 - Purdue unvotes AC
Post #1378 - AC votes Racer
Post #1387 - RA unvotes Cronin
Post #1392 - AE unvotes Racer
Post #1398 - Purdue votes Racer

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 01:42 PM

Also, here is what I show for the vote, as of Post #1404:

Racer - DT (1253), Lathum (1355), Cronin (1368), AC (1378), Purdue (1392)
Chief - Anxiety (1346)

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 01:43 PM

Ah there you go.

So my suspicion on ae drops down. I thought you had had a vote on Racer and pulled it off.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:44 PM

I'm about this flipping close to just revealing who I am and getting it over with.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:45 PM

Shoot. I didn't even remember who I voted for. It was a long night.

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 01:45 PM

Ardent, I'm probably at least as suspicious of you as I am of Racer. Mainly because I have more of a track record of you as a player than I do of him, and I was concerned early in the game with how little you posted. As the game has moved forward you have posted more (heavy on vote counts one day) but I can't remember much in the way of theories or consistent behavior. And that worries me with a player that I consider a good thinker.

I'm guessing you are either a Titan or one of the big two Olympians and gripping your cards a little too tight. I've got to figure out for myself if 1.) I want to take a chance on you as a Titan 2.) if I'm willing to take a risk of hitting one of the big two Olympians.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:46 PM

UNVOTE TELLE

Since apparently that's who I voted for.

DaddyTorgo · 10-26-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm going to try very hard to not have you piss me off DT.

I had no idea what was going on last night as I was fighting with my wife. IF you can't understand that, then I should have realized I need to stay away from this stupid game.

yeah. nothing personal man. didn't realize you were having issues last night, okay?

shit...i'm not even voting for you right now...i'm voting for RACER. In fact, in some sense I get the feeling I'm leading the charge on Racer.

Relax?

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:50 PM

Actually, hoops, now that I think of it, I haven't played with Racer either. I guess my feeling on him is based on the heat he has drawn.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:51 PM

No worries, DT. IT just pissed me off to no end last night that I thought I had it taken care of only to have her blow up on me last night. I wasn't around for about 2 hours last night for that reason...maybe closer to 3. When I got back, all heck had broken loose. I know I saw your place holder and thought, "How smart is that? I need to do that."

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:52 PM

Then to see the..."did AE copy me" (not exactly what you said, but how I perceived it)...dude, just rubbed me the wrong way.

Sorry.

DaddyTorgo · 10-26-2007, 01:54 PM

It's all good man. Sorry things blew up on you.

And see, I wasn't even right. You placeholdered on Telle and not RaceR.

No hard feelings hmm?

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:54 PM

I won't get into the fact that I'm missing a football game for a team I scout/consult for tonight. My consolation? I'll be picking up a dvd of the game tomorrow after the wedding.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:55 PM

No hard feelings, DT. I'm trying hard to be mellow yellow AE.

PurdueBrad · 10-26-2007, 01:55 PM

Hoops, your read on AE is the same problem I'm struggling with on most of the people I'm looking at. Do you take the risk of lynching a god to try and get a Titan but we're really getting down to that. What honestly worries me though is as we get close to a lynch is if someone comes out and says essentially "you can't lynch me because I'm one of the big two..." and then my fear is this: If it is a fake reveal, then our real one may have to out themselves and there are obvious problems here. At the same time, if we go through with the lynch, we would likely be wrong. I guess, as somebody (Hoops perhaps) said earlier, with the loss of AP last night by a few of us and the need to try and avoid hitting a God, we need to coordinate tonight as much as ever. I'm on Racer now, but am up to five that I would be willing to risk the vote on. Then for the rest, the jury is still out. My intuition is just off or something and my power does not help in getting any kind of read on people.

Telle · 10-26-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Also, here is what I show for the vote, as of Post #1404:

Racer - DT (1253), Lathum (1355), Cronin (1368), AC (1378), Purdue (1392)
Chief - Anxiety (1346)

You're missing Neon voting for Racer in post 1380.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 01:57 PM

Personally, I'm thinking I'm voting for Chief before I head out.

Telle · 10-26-2007, 01:59 PM

I'm not sure I'm liking this run on Racer. Having a bandwagon like that makes it really easy for wolves to hide. So while I don't have much to say for either Racer or Chief Rum, I'm going to put my vote on the latter at least for now so that we have more than one candidate.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Telle · 10-26-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

That leaves us a group containing

Hoopsguy
St.Cronin
PurdueBrad
ChiefRum
Ardent
Racer

Let's back up to this list for a moment. Now it looks like st.cronin has moved onto the "vouched for list", so that's one down. And from my perspective, everybody else is pretty much in the "can't say much good for them, but don't have much bad against them either" category.

Hoops already talked a little to help try and garner some support.. and PurdueBrad claims he hinted to something early in the game that will give him credibility if he reveals his role.

So that leaves us with Chief Rum, ardent enthusiast, and Racer. Thoughts anyone?

(And of course, this is all ignoring the potential for false reveals, etc)

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 02:11 PM

Telle, I would just argue that by the end of the day I think we need to unite on a candidate and take our shot. Because the Titans will most likely have at least eight votes they can throw our way to move the vote (four votes for two people). I don't think they would be that obvious if they can avoid it, but if they feel like they can cull our numbers quickly enough it might make sense to take their stand today.

If we miss on this vote, then the people who have information power should look to target our 2nd/3rd candidates and hopefully we come back tomorrow with an even better chance for a good vote.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:12 PM

Hoops, the problem I have with that...is I likely won't be here. There's a chance I can be back in time, but I doubt it.

st.cronin · 10-26-2007, 02:15 PM

I will also not be around tonight.

DaddyTorgo · 10-26-2007, 02:17 PM

well then we need to agree on a candidate now before you all leave *shrug*

roll the dice and take our shot

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 02:18 PM

Ardent, then I guess put your vote where you think it belongs, let us know that you are out for the duration, and those of us that are going to be around can factor that into our decision.

For what it is worth, I'm probably going to be putting my vote on you but be willing to settle for one of the other candidates if I can't get the support.

Racer - I have no idea how he plays as good/bad but he is very quiet. I think it is a lock that we'll come back to him tomorrow if he isn't cleared

Chief - I've seen him as a bad guy enough to think that he would put out more effort in terms of providing value over the last two nights when he doesn't feel like he can clear himself somehow. I would have loved to learn more about him last night as we moved towards the deadline, but I'm more inclined to think he is good than to think you are good based on play this game.

Heck, lets get it out of the way now.

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:20 PM

Sigh.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:24 PM

Hoops...you've got the wrong guy.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 02:27 PM

ardent, put your vote on Racer then. The way things are shaping up, it's going to be between you or Racer today.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:32 PM

sigh.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:32 PM

Fair enough.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:42 PM

I'm just going to be screwed in the end. I know it.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:43 PM

FYI: Before I roll out, I will likely go ahead and say who I am.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 02:49 PM

Lathum, if you're the bodyguard, you're going to have a tough choice tonight, if ae decides to reveal.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 02:49 PM

ae, you wouldn't rather go one-on-one in a vote-off against Racer?

Poli · 10-26-2007, 02:50 PM

I'd rather not risk it, neon. No offense. I'm a good guy.

hoopsguy · 10-26-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Lathum, if you're the bodyguard, you're going to have a tough choice tonight, if ae decides to reveal.

Lathum, I have very strong thoughts on who you should guard tonight but I don't want to say it any closer to the deadline than required. I'm hoping that you will take suggestions as well as let us know when you are going to have to put in that order.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 02:55 PM

I hope the deadline doesn't end up being 40 minutes early again.

Racer · 10-26-2007, 02:56 PM

Okay, I've been gone all day so I've got some catching up to do.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

Okay, I've been gone all day so I've got some catching up to do.

To sum it up in a nutshell:

The choice of votes, right now, are between you, ae, and chief rum.

Telle · 10-26-2007, 03:00 PM

Current vote count:

Racer- 6 - DaddyTorgo (1253), Lathum (1355), st.cronin (1356/1368), ArlingtonColt (1378), Neon_Chaos (1380), PurdueBrad (1398)
Chief Rum - 2 - anxiety (1346), Telle (1421)
ardent enthusiast - 1 - Hoopsguy (1427)

Poli · 10-26-2007, 03:01 PM

VOTE HOOPSGUY

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 03:02 PM

AE. What are you doing? Why hoopsguy?

Poli · 10-26-2007, 03:03 PM

All I can think he's doing is trying to set me up.

Telle · 10-26-2007, 03:03 PM

Well that was unexpected.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 03:03 PM

I'm 95% sure that vote's not moving unless Alan T says otherwise.

Neon_Chaos · 10-26-2007, 03:04 PM

You do know that this is going to lead to people voting for you, right? You can just place the vote on Racer.

Poli · 10-26-2007, 03:06 PM

I have a feeling hoops is going to lead a charge on me in about 2 hours after I leave, so it doesn't matter. I want my vote in for the record when this game is over.

DaddyTorgo · 10-26-2007, 03:07 PM

didn't see that one coming

10-26-2007, 01:35 PM	#1402
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm going to try very hard to not have you piss me off DT. I had no idea what was going on last night as I was fighting with my wife. IF you can't understand that, then I should have realized I need to stay away from this stupid game. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:43 PM	#1406
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Ah there you go. So my suspicion on ae drops down. I thought you had had a vote on Racer and pulled it off. __________________ Come and see.

10-26-2007, 01:44 PM	#1407
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm about this flipping close to just revealing who I am and getting it over with. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:45 PM	#1408
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Shoot. I didn't even remember who I voted for. It was a long night. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:46 PM	#1410
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	UNVOTE TELLE Since apparently that's who I voted for. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:42 PM	#1404
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	AE, I don't believe you had a vote on Racer. You voted for Telle in Post #1273. Or at least that is what I have written down. Post #1253 - DT votes Racer Post #1273 - AE votes Telle Post #1290 - RA votes Cronin Post #1293 - NC votes Cronin Post #1297 - NC unvotes Cronin Post #1313 - Cronin votes Chief Post #1337 - Purdue votes Cronin Post #1346 - Anxiety votes Chief Post #1355 - Lathum votes Racer Post #1356 - Cronin unvotes Hoops, votes Racer (invalid) Post #1362 - Purdue unvotes Cronin, votes AC Post #1368 - Cronin unvotes, votes Racer Post #1372 - Purdue unvotes AC Post #1378 - AC votes Racer Post #1387 - RA unvotes Cronin Post #1392 - AE unvotes Racer Post #1398 - Purdue votes Racer

10-26-2007, 01:42 PM	#1405
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Also, here is what I show for the vote, as of Post #1404: Racer - DT (1253), Lathum (1355), Cronin (1368), AC (1378), Purdue (1392) Chief - Anxiety (1346)

10-26-2007, 01:45 PM	#1409
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Ardent, I'm probably at least as suspicious of you as I am of Racer. Mainly because I have more of a track record of you as a player than I do of him, and I was concerned early in the game with how little you posted. As the game has moved forward you have posted more (heavy on vote counts one day) but I can't remember much in the way of theories or consistent behavior. And that worries me with a player that I consider a good thinker. I'm guessing you are either a Titan or one of the big two Olympians and gripping your cards a little too tight. I've got to figure out for myself if 1.) I want to take a chance on you as a Titan 2.) if I'm willing to take a risk of hitting one of the big two Olympians.

10-26-2007, 01:50 PM	#1412
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Actually, hoops, now that I think of it, I haven't played with Racer either. I guess my feeling on him is based on the heat he has drawn. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:51 PM	#1413
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	No worries, DT. IT just pissed me off to no end last night that I thought I had it taken care of only to have her blow up on me last night. I wasn't around for about 2 hours last night for that reason...maybe closer to 3. When I got back, all heck had broken loose. I know I saw your place holder and thought, "How smart is that? I need to do that." __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:52 PM	#1414
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Then to see the..."did AE copy me" (not exactly what you said, but how I perceived it)...dude, just rubbed me the wrong way. Sorry. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:54 PM	#1415
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	It's all good man. Sorry things blew up on you. And see, I wasn't even right. You placeholdered on Telle and not RaceR. No hard feelings hmm?

10-26-2007, 01:54 PM	#1416
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I won't get into the fact that I'm missing a football game for a team I scout/consult for tonight. My consolation? I'll be picking up a dvd of the game tomorrow after the wedding. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:55 PM	#1417
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	No hard feelings, DT. I'm trying hard to be mellow yellow AE. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:55 PM	#1418
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Hoops, your read on AE is the same problem I'm struggling with on most of the people I'm looking at. Do you take the risk of lynching a god to try and get a Titan but we're really getting down to that. What honestly worries me though is as we get close to a lynch is if someone comes out and says essentially "you can't lynch me because I'm one of the big two..." and then my fear is this: If it is a fake reveal, then our real one may have to out themselves and there are obvious problems here. At the same time, if we go through with the lynch, we would likely be wrong. I guess, as somebody (Hoops perhaps) said earlier, with the loss of AP last night by a few of us and the need to try and avoid hitting a God, we need to coordinate tonight as much as ever. I'm on Racer now, but am up to five that I would be willing to risk the vote on. Then for the rest, the jury is still out. My intuition is just off or something and my power does not help in getting any kind of read on people.

10-26-2007, 01:57 PM	#1420
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Personally, I'm thinking I'm voting for Chief before I head out. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 01:59 PM	#1421
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm not sure I'm liking this run on Racer. Having a bandwagon like that makes it really easy for wolves to hide. So while I don't have much to say for either Racer or Chief Rum, I'm going to put my vote on the latter at least for now so that we have more than one candidate. VOTE CHIEF RUM

10-26-2007, 02:11 PM	#1423
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Telle, I would just argue that by the end of the day I think we need to unite on a candidate and take our shot. Because the Titans will most likely have at least eight votes they can throw our way to move the vote (four votes for two people). I don't think they would be that obvious if they can avoid it, but if they feel like they can cull our numbers quickly enough it might make sense to take their stand today. If we miss on this vote, then the people who have information power should look to target our 2nd/3rd candidates and hopefully we come back tomorrow with an even better chance for a good vote.

10-26-2007, 02:12 PM	#1424
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hoops, the problem I have with that...is I likely won't be here. There's a chance I can be back in time, but I doubt it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:15 PM	#1425
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I will also not be around tonight. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-26-2007, 02:17 PM	#1426
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	well then we need to agree on a candidate now before you all leave shrug roll the dice and take our shot

10-26-2007, 02:18 PM	#1427
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Ardent, then I guess put your vote where you think it belongs, let us know that you are out for the duration, and those of us that are going to be around can factor that into our decision. For what it is worth, I'm probably going to be putting my vote on you but be willing to settle for one of the other candidates if I can't get the support. Racer - I have no idea how he plays as good/bad but he is very quiet. I think it is a lock that we'll come back to him tomorrow if he isn't cleared Chief - I've seen him as a bad guy enough to think that he would put out more effort in terms of providing value over the last two nights when he doesn't feel like he can clear himself somehow. I would have loved to learn more about him last night as we moved towards the deadline, but I'm more inclined to think he is good than to think you are good based on play this game. Heck, lets get it out of the way now. VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

10-26-2007, 02:20 PM	#1428
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Sigh. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:24 PM	#1429
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hoops...you've got the wrong guy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:27 PM	#1430
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	ardent, put your vote on Racer then. The way things are shaping up, it's going to be between you or Racer today. __________________ Come and see.

10-26-2007, 02:32 PM	#1431
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	sigh. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:32 PM	#1432
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Fair enough. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:42 PM	#1433
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm just going to be screwed in the end. I know it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:43 PM	#1434
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	FYI: Before I roll out, I will likely go ahead and say who I am. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:49 PM	#1435
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Lathum, if you're the bodyguard, you're going to have a tough choice tonight, if ae decides to reveal. __________________ Come and see.

10-26-2007, 02:49 PM	#1436
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	ae, you wouldn't rather go one-on-one in a vote-off against Racer? __________________ Come and see.

10-26-2007, 02:50 PM	#1437
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'd rather not risk it, neon. No offense. I'm a good guy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-26-2007, 02:55 PM	#1439
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I hope the deadline doesn't end up being 40 minutes early again. __________________ Come and see.

10-26-2007, 02:56 PM	#1440
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Okay, I've been gone all day so I've got some catching up to do.

10-26-2007, 03:00 PM	#1442
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Current vote count: Racer- 6 - DaddyTorgo (1253), Lathum (1355), st.cronin (1356/1368), ArlingtonColt (1378), Neon_Chaos (1380), PurdueBrad (1398) Chief Rum - 2 - anxiety (1346), Telle (1421) ardent enthusiast - 1 - Hoopsguy (1427)