Werewolf XXVIII: Mad Wizard and the Wolves (Game over Pg45)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I suspect cronin doesn't expect to be alive tomorrow morning.

well making statements like that won't help him.

[hoopsguy]

Always reassuring when the moderator posts ahead of time that he is messing with people.

This from the man who gave us a traitor role that had the ability to conduct full disclosure in his last game ...

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Always reassuring when the moderator posts ahead of time that he is messing with people.

This from the man who gave us a traitor role that had the ability to conduct full disclosure in his last game ...

Oh you say that like it's a bad thing!

*giggles evilly as he makes his first change*

[hoopsguy]

If people have strong thoughts on who I should guard, and feel like helping me in a game of chicken with the wizard, I'm taking suggestions.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If people have strong thoughts on who I should guard, and feel like helping me in a game of chicken with the wizard, I'm taking suggestions.

I would like you to protect cronin so he can scan me.

[Tyrith]

I'd like you to do the opposite of whatever we say.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If people have strong thoughts on who I should guard, and feel like helping me in a game of chicken with the wizard, I'm taking suggestions.

chicken?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

chicken?

ie: he means like the scene with the smart italian guy from the Perfect bride.

[hoopsguy]

Chicken - two cars approaching each other at high speeds. Who swerves first?

Or, for a longer explanation - hxxp://www.heretical.com/pound/chicken.html

[hoopsguy]

Alan - your butchering of the Princess Bride is painful to read. And that "smart italian guy" is Vizzini. The whole speech has already been rehashed in other WW games, but it is priceless and always applicable to these games.


Were we in a day phase right now, I might just have to throw a vote on you. Perfect bride - pfffft.

[Alan T]

Sorry!

[Lathum]

I know what chicken is

[Barkeep49]

I really want to be "Oh *snap* he's changing the rules on us" but I can't work up any excitement. It seems like we know so little about the rules the fact that they'd be changed? Yeah sort of meaningless. Not complaining, just stating.

Especially because we nailed a wolf, EASILY. While chronologically I was in the middle, I was an early supporter of this action. I am happy to see him go and am proud to say I never wavered in my conviction.

Now as to what this vote tells us? That we have a leigitmate circle of trust. I expect that the members of our little circle will now be picked off. But so far we have to believe that 90% of the remaining information out there is good. And that is a HUGE plus for us. I think pretty clearly we look for the remaining henceman among Schmidty and Sack, primarily, with Lathum and Tyrith behind them. Finding the wizard though is much harder.

[Barkeep49]

Protecting cronin and then you are the top two priorities, hoops. I think saldana and myself are expendable. One of us should be around to varify CW tomorrow which is what's important. But cronin would be priority 1, with another player, who I do not name, 1a, in my mind, followed by yourself at 2.

[Barkeep49]

My 1a person is the person who I believe to be the pack leader, btw.

[st.cronin]

Just briefly to explain my logic, I think it unlikely that TWO badguys would do fake reveals. Tyrith is, obviously, still uncleared. But I had Tyrith and Anxiety as mostly an either/or proposition.

More on Lathum later. Also, the game is about to get totally crazy. The rules for voting HAVE changed - but I won't know the new rules until 1 hour before deadline. I don't know if anybody else will know sooner. I don't have any idea what role CW/BK/Saldana supposedly have.

[Barkeep49]

Oh and Anxiety if you PM me, I would be happy to give you my AIM name and to talk stategy with you, especially if I do get killed. I really don't think you're a bad player at all.

[Barkeep49]

It would be nice if we could clear CW tonight. So CW if you could post something which saldana and I could verify as part of the code, though different from the one we have already going, that is VERY important. I think people should look highly suspiciously at CW if he has failed to do this by the end of d5.

[Barkeep49]

With that I go to bed.

[Blade6119]

I can give you mine. I know i talk strategy with other players, and since im already dead id be happy to talk right now with ya anxiety.

[Tyrith]

Cronin, do you think we should even bother doing normal voting tomorrow, or would we better off waiting if possible?

[Barkeep49]

Hey dead guy! You're one upping me AGAIN!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Hey dead guy! You're one upping me AGAIN!

IM DEAD!! I have to take what i can get! Be happy your alive, and let me do what i may maiz

[Blade6119]

[SirFozzie]

Now two-upping him is just cruel, Blade (or is that three upping him?)

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Cronin, do you think we should even bother doing normal voting tomorrow, or would we better off waiting if possible?

I'm planning to wait til I understand the rules. I'm interested to see what Saldana et al. have to say about it.

[Tyrith]

And this man was my brother, sigh :P

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

IM DEAD!! I have to take what i can get! Be happy your alive, and let me do what i may maiz

This was a very clever post. Kudos to you. I think that it's time to implement your quiet stategy though .

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

More on Lathum later. Also, the game is about to get totally crazy. The rules for voting HAVE changed - but I won't know the new rules until 1 hour before deadline. I don't know if anybody else will know sooner. I don't have any idea what role CW/BK/Saldana supposedly have.

I can't wait for this.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm planning to wait til I understand the rules. I'm interested to see what Saldana et al. have to say about it.

Ok I'm only out of bed because the TV show I'm watching did something funny with music and I thought it was iTUnes malfunctioning so I got up to look at it, but found out it was the TV show. Anyhow if the rules really have changed and we only find out 1 hour before lynch that sort of rules out my participating tomorrow in any meaningful way as I will either

A)Be dead
B)Be at a little league baseball game

[saldana]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm planning to wait til I understand the rules. I'm interested to see what Saldana et al. have to say about it.

i already know what my anser to this is, but i would like to see what CW thinks first.

[hoopsguy]

What did you really expect out of his quiet strategy?

[st.cronin]

I strongly suspect that there will be some way for the rules to be communicated even if I die tonight. I don't know if Saldana, BK, CW have something to do with that or not.

[Barkeep49]

Well saldana and I do. CW?

[Lathum]

well I certainly hope St. Cronin returns with his theory on me before the night phase is over in case one of us isn't alive.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

It would be nice if we could clear CW tonight. So CW if you could post something which saldana and I could verify as part of the code, though different from the one we have already going, that is VERY important. I think people should look highly suspiciously at CW if he has failed to do this by the end of d5.

I've been holding off on saying anything till it was late enough to where no bad guy would pile on and try and worm his way in.

I don't have MUCH to tell. But what keyed me into trusting Saldana, and by association, you, was his mentioning (to paraphrase) that his votes could be the difference maker.

As can mine. I don't have any super duper powers that I know of, but my votes apparently may really matter. The fact that he used that line was why I immediately trusted him.

Not much earth shattering stuff there. But it's all I've got.

[Coffee Warlord]

Dola.

And I haven't the foggiest fricken clue what it may mean for tomorrow, assuming I'm not whacked tonight.

[st.cronin]

After looking over my role, I am planning on getting my vote in as early as possible tomorrow morning (assuming I am alive).

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

After looking over my role, I am planning on getting my vote in as early as possible tomorrow morning (assuming I am alive).

If you wernt already on my fully trusted list, you are pretty close with this comment. I don't really want to talk much about this tonight though. I'll speak more about it in the morning.

[Tyrith]

CW's clarification seems to be lacking in specifics. I'm not really happy with it.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

After looking over my role, I am planning on getting my vote in as early as possible tomorrow morning (assuming I am alive).

I'm curious to know how you went from basicly saying that you have to wait for the last hour to vote to saying you need to vote ASAP?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm curious to know how you went from basicly saying that you have to wait for the last hour to vote to saying you need to vote ASAP?

I won't know the rules til quite late, but it's possible that early votes will be weighted more heavily than later votes.

[Tyrith]

Well, here's to hoping I don't die tonight because of my stupid brother. I won't be around till 5 CST or so tomorrow, so let's hope my vote is still worth something.

[Barkeep49]

CW check out post 1082. How could that have cleared saldana? Alternatively, use your own version.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

What did you really expect out of his quiet strategy?

Blade has a quiet strategy?

[dubb93]

Well I'm here and see Coffee has taken over my spot. Good thing, I've been without the internet for what seems like ages. It just freakin went out and I've been dealing with technical support ever since. Finally I just gave up and switched providers which was another delay in getting it hooked up. In fact, it just came on right freakin NOW.

With that said, good luck everyone, I"m going to have fun reading along with the game, wish I could have played along.

[SirFozzie]

There is another flash of light during the night, but come morning, all of you are still here. Another victory for the wolves... you think.

[SirFozzie]

Oh yes. Mandatory:

Votes Are due by 10 PM EDT

[Barkeep49]

Woohoo! I'm not dead.

Ok one thought on how this new system has to work: Perhaps saldana and I, with CW as a possible third, all have to agree? Or 2 out of 3?

[Alan T]

Cool. I think? Hoops did you protect someone successfully last night, or are we looking at a conversion of some kind?

Ok, some information that I have but wanted to wait till night phase was over.

My role is that I am a lucky Wolf. When I first got this role, I assumed that there might be something important to Fozzie stating it as "A lucky wolf" vs "the lucky wolf" as in there could be more than one. However the more I thought about it, that did not make much sense.

Basically what I was told, is growing up, I have always managed to be lucky. Things have always seemed to go my way. However this is indeed no power or special ability, just if I found myself in a pinch, I could be assured that my luck would prevail.

What this meant was that I am a tiebreaker, on votes I am involved in, my luck would hold out.

The problem however is that i was told some forces in the universe are more powerful than "luck", and there could be a case where the laws as we know it no longer make any sense. In those cases I could not count on my luck to pull through.

It seems like we are currently in a Fozzie mini-game of some sort. From what I was told, its exactly like St.cronin said. The vote has turned from order into chaos. There are as far as I am aware 6 different ways the vote might be determined, which I am guessing St.Cronin is the piece to my jigsaw puzzle to figure out how that plays out. What I do know though is no longer does a majority vote matter, but instead it can all be "weighed" out based on the location, duration or type of vote whatever that means. Instead of Quantity mattering, now Quality of vote matters (once again no clue what that means.)

So, to play out whats been going through my head, St.Cronin's post last night sinched things for me, when he mentioned when he wanted to post rather than for who. That seems to me to be whats important now. I think as of now, I pretty close to fully trust St.Cronin. you can also see why it gave me pause earlier on when he referred to the tie breaker in a way that it didnt exist or that it would change.. because I had info regarding the tiebreaker that I knew. Once he clarified himself on day 2 or 3 whenever that was, things felt a bit better for me about him.

So... I am guessing this day might be a fun one to see what happens.. I am hoping St.cronin can help us further with that as we go.