LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507)

[jeheinz72]

I voted, for hoops.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Danny

One of us should be working with Tyrith as that gets us an extra bonus point. So, PurdueBrad and Tyrith working on the sleeping quarters or water plant? Engine seems like the worst choice to repair at this point.

Then you and I can work on finishing up the cargo hold in case you fake your work.

I'd think the engine is the most crucial. For one, we have to repair it to get off the planet. For two, if it gets to 12 points of damage (a spawn attack is 1-4 units) then the amount is instantly doubled to 24 and we're uber-fucked.

I'm all for working on the hold with you while PB and Ty work elsewhere (again, my thinking is that engine.)

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Danny

One of us should be working with Tyrith as that gets us an extra bonus point. So, PurdueBrad and Tyrith working on the sleeping quarters or water plant? Engine seems like the worst choice to repair at this point.

Then you and I can work on finishing up the cargo hold in case you fake your work.

I disagree.. I think if need be, the sleeping quarters just stay broken for a bit.

We Need the engines to be fixed to get off this planet. I'm not as worried about the water as the engines personally, but can understand if the repair team would like to fix the water pump... I really would like to see the engines fully repaired in two days though so if everything goes well (no other more critical locations break, and we have successful away teams), we can get off this planet then.

[Danny]

I didn't know about the double thing. Alan, what do you think is the most crucial? PB and Tyrith can repair 3 points worth of damage.

[jeheinz72]

I'm going to put in the PM to work on the hold tonight, any dissenters?

I might get on again tonight, not sure. I leave here in about 2 hours.

[Danny]

Alright, engine it is then.

So

Jeheinz and Danny- Cargohold
Tyrith and PurdueBrad- Engine

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'll take your word for it. Doesn't really help explain why, though.

Why I distrusted RendeR on D1? Is that what you are asking?

Or why I'm suspicious at this point? I think I've outlined that pretty clearly.

And I don't think it is optimal villager play to "fill in the blanks" for his reasons to make a decision, which it felt like you were doing when his name came up.

[Danny]

That's fine, I will go in there with you and hopefully I get a better idea about what that part of last night's PM meant.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Danny

I didn't know about the double thing. Alan, what do you think is the most crucial? PB and Tyrith can repair 3 points worth of damage.

My thoughts are:

1) Security HQ
2) Slave Pen
3) Cargo Hold
4) Engines
5) Water Pump
6) Sleeping Quarters

We should be able to fix #3 tonight as long as you account for possible faking of work so I would say start on the engines next.. but once again I'll leave some of that discussion up to the engineering staff and rest of the ship for debate if people disagree.

I also liked the idea thrown out of Danny + Jeheinz working on the cargo hold (if there is only 1 man hour left to complete).. Even if both are spawn, I don't see both faking work and outing themselves for that. That would then let PB and Tyrith get a good start elsewhere... but once again feel free to discuss that

[hoopsguy]

Has anyone started mapping out who was in what rooms yesterday? If we are going to take a shot at the "Detect Nearby Spawn" explanation for people this seems like good information to have.

[Passacaglia]

Stupid question here -- how did 2 of the phasers get spent?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Has anyone started mapping out who was in what rooms yesterday? If we are going to take a shot at the "Detect Nearby Spawn" explanation for people this seems like good information to have.

I took note of who was in the room with me based on what people have said.


With that I'm heading to my softball game. I'll be back before deadline

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Stupid question here -- how did 2 of the phasers get spent?

I assume 1 shot phasers that shot slaves

[Danny]

I sent in my night action to repair the Cargo hold.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Why I distrusted RendeR on D1? Is that what you are asking?

Or why I'm suspicious at this point? I think I've outlined that pretty clearly.

And I don't think it is optimal villager play to "fill in the blanks" for his reasons to make a decision, which it felt like you were doing when his name came up.

Yes, that's what I was asking.

And you may see it as not being optimal, but it seemed pretty obvious to me that that's what he meant, when I was trying to figure out what was up with everything who was exhausted earlier in the day.

[Danny]

PurdueBrad, are you alright with working on the engine with Tyrith? I know you wanted to be with Jeheinz and I, but we should take advantage of that extra point.

Actually, The other option would be for Tyrith to fix the cargohold and three of us to work on the engine? What do you think?

[hoopsguy]

Here are the notes that I have on Rooms last night, per post #629:

Captain - Alan T
First Officer – Kwhit Wounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Second Officer - Render Exhuasted
Security Chief - Hoopsguy Exhuasted (Sleeping Quarters)
Ensign - Telle
Chief Engineer - Tyrith Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Engineers
PurdueBrad Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Danny Wounded & Exhuasted (Slaves)
JeHeinz72 Exhuasted (Slaves)

Trainer - mccollins
Medical Staff
Doctor - path12 Wounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Medic - The Jackal Wounded
Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - oliegirl Exhuasted (Sleeping Quarters)
Warden - Passacagalia Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Galley Master - Schmidty Exhuasted (Water Plant)
Slavemaster - Saldana (sleeping Quarters)
Security Crewman - Mrs. Schmidty ExhuastedWounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Scientists
LoneStarGirl
PackerFanatic Wounded & Exhuasted
Privates
Claphamsa
Marc Vaughn
Chubby Wounded
bulletsponge Exhuasted

[jeheinz72]

Action for night repair of hold sent to BK

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Danny

PurdueBrad, are you alright with working on the engine with Tyrith? I know you wanted to be with Jeheinz and I, but we should take advantage of that extra point.

Actually, The other option would be for Tyrith to fix the cargohold and three of us to work on the engine? What do you think?

Again, the goal is to have someone working with Tyrith to get the extra point. So having Tyrith alone is not optimal.

[Danny]

Jeheinz, one sec, what do you think of that last option I proposed?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I assume 1 shot phasers that shot slaves

That's right -- thanks.

[PurdueBrad]

I see why you guys are trying to put me on the engine, you just don't want to hear my "I Like Big Boxes" song, by Sir-PurdueBrad-A-Lot. If this is where you guys want me, that's fine.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Again, the goal is to have someone working with Tyrith to get the extra point. So having Tyrith alone is not optimal.

With Jeheinz and I working on the hold it works out in case either of us fake it, but if we are both good we waste a point that way too.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Danny

Actually, The other option would be for Tyrith to fix the cargohold and three of us to work on the engine? What do you think?

The only catch with that is, we're fubar'd if Tyrith is a Spawn. Now I don't necessarily think he is, but that's a big risk.

With you and I working on it, unless we roll snake-eyes that our wounds and exhaustion bite us, the work should get done no matter what.

Security folks - We also have to have someone guard the hold tonight. That's a MUST.

[PurdueBrad]

I agree, we HAVE to have somebody with Tyrith. I'll do it, he and I did well together the previous night.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Danny

Jeheinz, one sec, what do you think of that last option I proposed?

That was actually case A in an earlier post of mine, but yeah, I think we're best off just how we are.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

The only catch with that is, we're fubar'd if Tyrith is a Spawn. Now I don't necessarily think he is, but that's a big risk.

With you and I working on it, unless we roll snake-eyes that our wounds and exhaustion bite us, the work should get done no matter what.

Security folks - We also have to have someone guard the hold tonight. That's a MUST.

Ok, let's hold on the original plan then.

[jeheinz72]

I think the repair plan of

Danny & I on the Cargo Hold
Tyrith & PB on the engine
+ Security ideally on both, but definitely on the Cargo Hold

is about as optimal as we can hope for. We cover our bases, the work for sure gets done on the hold and hopefully we get a nice head start on the engine work with an aim towards wrapping that up tomorrow.

[PurdueBrad]

We are currently assuming that the slaves did no damage today, is that correct? If so, then I'll send in my orders as well.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Danny

PurdueBrad, are you alright with working on the engine with Tyrith? I know you wanted to be with Jeheinz and I, but we should take advantage of that extra point.

Actually, The other option would be for Tyrith to fix the cargohold and three of us to work on the engine? What do you think?

Would rather not take the chance he is bad. PB will have to wait another day I would think.. if Tyrith is evil and the only person fixing the hold.. we're done for

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

We are currently assuming that the slaves did no damage today, is that correct? If so, then I'll send in my orders as well.

That's the hope, yes.

If you'll be back post-results but before night actions, you can certainly wait. I dont' know for sure if I'll be on past 6-7 EST tonight, so I had to get my order in. Either way, I'm working on the highest priority area so no matter the damage incurred there shouldn't be a need for me to change.

[Danny]

And I thought being an engineer was going to be boring. I actually told my fiancee about me creating a robot in the thread and she asked me what purpose it had. My response was "I don't get to do much as an engineer, so I wanted to create a way to entertain myself".

I was wrong of course

[PackerFanatic]

My bad, heniz - I misread the vote This should be good then...(although I thought hoops voted)

PackerFanatic (5) - path12 (1090), Tyrith (1129), saldana (1136), Marc Vaughan (1153), The Jackal (1201)
No lynch (5) - Mrs. Schmidty (957), PurdueBrad (1008), KWhit (1190), Passacaglia (1206), bulletsponge (1277)
jeheniz72 (2) - claphamsa (805)
saldana (1) - mccollins (1226)
claphamsa (1) - Telle (1028)
hoopsguy (1) - jeheniz72 (1219)

No votes: Alan T
Render
Telle
Danny
Hoopsguy
oliegirl
Schmidty
LoneStarGirl
PackerFanatic
Chubby

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Here are the notes that I have on Rooms last night, per post #629:

Captain - Alan T
First Officer – Kwhit Wounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Second Officer - Render Exhuasted
Security Chief - Hoopsguy Exhuasted (Sleeping Quarters)
Ensign - Telle
Chief Engineer - Tyrith Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Engineers
PurdueBrad Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Danny Wounded & Exhuasted (Slaves)
JeHeinz72 Exhuasted (Slaves)

Trainer - mccollins
Medical Staff
Doctor - path12 Wounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Medic - The Jackal Wounded
Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - oliegirl Exhuasted (Sleeping Quarters)
Warden - Passacagalia Exhuasted (Security HQ)
Galley Master - Schmidty Exhuasted (Water Plant)
Slavemaster - Saldana (sleeping Quarters)
Security Crewman - Mrs. Schmidty ExhuastedWounded (Sleeping Quarters)
Scientists
LoneStarGirl
PackerFanatic Wounded & Exhuasted
Privates
Claphamsa
Marc Vaughn
Chubby Wounded
bulletsponge Exhuasted

Hoops I think you can assume anyone not exhausted either slept in the sleeping quarters or is a spawn (Since they have a chance of doing night actions without being exhausted).

Since there were 11 people not exhausted and 11 beds last night, that matches up well in my mind..

Anyways now I'm leaving for real

[hoopsguy]

Heinz, with speculation that Danny is spawn aware, I think it makes sense for you to help me figure out who might have been in the Slaves area with you last night.

Other options:
- Danny isn's Spawn Aware, but Spawnling
- Danny is bluffing for reasons that don't entirely make sense

Everyone who is not exhausted must have slept last night. So you can cross them off the list. We don't have location information on the following people, to the best of my knowledge:
- RendeR
- PackerFanatic
- Bulletsponge

Also, if our duplicant wanted to scan Danny today by imitating Path that might not be the worst play either. I want good info on our doc, but if Danny is a Spawnling then we have a good vote for today and a small list of people who could have attacked him last night. This potentially leads us to two spawn. If Danny comes up human, then we have to more strongly consider "Spawn Aware" and that ratchets up the heat on Heinz (known to be in same area) and that same small group of people who were exhausted today without a clear reason to be exhausted.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

That's the hope, yes.

If you'll be back post-results but before night actions, you can certainly wait. I dont' know for sure if I'll be on past 6-7 EST tonight, so I had to get my order in. Either way, I'm working on the highest priority area so no matter the damage incurred there shouldn't be a need for me to change.

I have softball but will be on tonight to put in actions depending on what happens.

[hoopsguy]

Time to double-check the rules on Spawn not being exhausted.

[Danny]

I'd definitely like to be scanned if possible.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Time to double-check the rules on Spawn not being exhausted.

Plus if they fake an action, wouldn't they show as rested rather than exhausted as well. This might be a good way to track possibilities.

[Danny]

Just to officially recap for the engineers.

Cargohold: Jeheinz and Danny (both orders sent in already)
Engine Purdue Brad (order sent in?) and Tyrith

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Heinz, with speculation that Danny is spawn aware, I think it makes sense for you to help me figure out who might have been in the Slaves area with you last night.

Other options:
- Danny isn's Spawn Aware, but Spawnling
- Danny is bluffing for reasons that don't entirely make sense

Everyone who is not exhausted must have slept last night. So you can cross them off the list. We don't have location information on the following people, to the best of my knowledge:
- RendeR
- PackerFanatic
- Bulletsponge

Also, if our duplicant wanted to scan Danny today by imitating Path that might not be the worst play either. I want good info on our doc, but if Danny is a Spawnling then we have a good vote for today and a small list of people who could have attacked him last night. This potentially leads us to two spawn. If Danny comes up human, then we have to more strongly consider "Spawn Aware" and that ratchets up the heat on Heinz (known to be in same area) and that same small group of people who were exhausted today without a clear reason to be exhausted.

I attempted to sleep in the sleeping quarters, per my action, but was denied because there no beds left due to the damage done. I then tried finding somewhere else to sleep, but was attacked by a slave.

[hoopsguy]

Spawn who attack have a small chance of becoming exhausted (which is increased any time there is a Spawnling attack, especially for those who performed the attack).

No kill last night - suggests that there was a spawnling attack (conversion attempt), or spawn attacking spawn. Third possibility is that they attacked a room.

[PackerFanatic]

VOTE NO LYNCH

Gotta try and save my ass.

[oliegirl]

5 pages to catch up on...wow!

I never saw a post saying that the phasers had been turned back into the locker...someone please let me know asap if I need to allocate weapons again this evening.

[hoopsguy]

PF, for what it is worth I believe your explanation more than the 2nd man in with the explanation (Bullet). But the exhausted option is one of the clues we get, so there has to be some movement on the trust/distrust scale based on you showing up exhausted. You may know it was a bad dice roll, but the rest of us who aren't Spawn don't have the luxury of knowing that.

Do you know if you ended up in another room besides the sleeping quarters?

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Heinz, with speculation that Danny is spawn aware, I think it makes sense for you to help me figure out who might have been in the Slaves area with you last night.

Other options:
- Danny isn's Spawn Aware, but Spawnling
- Danny is bluffing for reasons that don't entirely make sense

That's the catch, and I've been thinking on it since he posted it, I don't know who else (if not saldana) would've been down there.

There's really no reason for anyone to have been, outside of us working on it. At least no implicitly obvious one.

Trust me, that one from him came out of left field for me. I didn't think Danny as Spawn/ling and don't know if I do now, but I do know I'm not.

[PackerFanatic]

No lynch (6) - Mrs. Schmidty (957), PurdueBrad (1008), KWhit (1190), Passacaglia (1206), bulletsponge (1277), PackerFanatic (1333)
PackerFanatic (5) - path12 (1090), Tyrith (1129), saldana (1136), Marc Vaughan (1153), The Jackal (1201)
jeheniz72 (1) - claphamsa (805)
claphamsa (1) - Telle (1028)
hoopsguy (1) - jeheniz72 (1219)
saldana (1) - mccollins (1226)

No votes: Alan T
Render
Telle
Danny
Hoopsguy
oliegirl
Schmidty
LoneStarGirl
Chubby

[path12]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I attempted to sleep in the sleeping quarters, per my action, but was denied because there no beds left due to the damage done. I then tried finding somewhere else to sleep, but was attacked by a slave.

Did it say what area you were attacked in?

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

PF, for what it is worth I believe your explanation more than the 2nd man in with the explanation (Bullet). But the exhausted option is one of the clues we get, so there has to be some movement on the trust/distrust scale based on you showing up exhausted. You may know it was a bad dice roll, but the rest of us who aren't Spawn don't have the luxury of knowing that.

Do you know if you ended up in another room besides the sleeping quarters?

Understandable, just trying to be as clear as I can about why I was exhausted (since I did put in a sleeping order)

It never says I ended up elsewhere, just that I tried to find somewhere else and was attacked.

[jeheinz72]

Didn't I have two votes on me before?