Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER) - Page 29

claphamsa · 04-10-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I will say this, after reading the whole thread today, I'm never voting for Taz because as an English teacher I'm enjoying watching him pull off the rhyming thing.

ive thouhgt of lynching him for it..... soooooo annoying!

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Another thing on Lathum. Early on, he seemed to draw conclusions from some pretty shaky evidence (like saying he trusted st. cronin, etc.). What I'd like to know is why? I have some ideas why he would do this, but I don't want to throw them out there for him to pick one and roll with it.

First thing that leaps to my head is that he's hinting at being a seer -- but that's probably because I'm biased toward not believing him.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

First thing that leaps to my head is that he's hinting at being a seer -- but that's probably because I'm biased toward not believing him.

That doesn't really fit with his accusation of Swaggs, does it?

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

That doesn't really fit with his accusation of Swaggs, does it?

The thought wasn't that he IS a seer -- just that he's hinting at it.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

The thought wasn't that he IS a seer -- just that he's hinting at it.

Right, but I think it still clashes with the rope play. If it doesn't, then you'll have to explain it to me.

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Right, but I think it still clashes with the rope play. If it doesn't, then you'll have to explain it to me.

Nothing more than:
hinting at seer = wolf
trying to get villagers lynched = wolf

If you're looking for anything deeper than that, you won't find it here. I don't know what exactly "clashes" about it, though.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Nothing more than:
hinting at seer = wolf
trying to get villagers lynched = wolf

If you're looking for anything deeper than that, you won't find it here. I don't know what exactly "clashes" about it, though.

I guess what I'm thinking is that if a wolf hints at being the seer early, its for the purpose of fake-revealing as a seer later. That ship has clearly sailed.

I do agree that Lathum is probably either a wolf, or is having a poor game as a villager. I side with the latter for now.

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I guess what I'm thinking is that if a wolf hints at being the seer early, its for the purpose of fake-revealing as a seer later. That ship has clearly sailed.

I do agree that Lathum is probably either a wolf, or is having a poor game as a villager. I side with the latter for now.

If you're leaning toward the latter, is it worth putting any effort into saving him? I'd like to hear some arguments.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If you're leaning toward the latter, is it worth putting any effort into saving him? I'd like to hear some arguments.

I don't know, I guess I'm inclined to wait to see what happens at the deadline.

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I caught hoopsguy reading my dynasty

Yep, I've been keeping up with it. I love Fallout, but I think if you had to pick a game from that group I would have gone with Planescape: Torment. If I was putting my own personal list together those games would likely both be in the Top 10 but my own list would be extremely RPG-heavy.

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 07:26 PM

Hey Sonic Youth, what's up? They didn't probe you did they?

Raiders Army · 04-10-2008, 07:26 PM

Did they?

Passacaglia · 04-10-2008, 07:29 PM

If they probed him, I don't want him back.

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

You were on the boat during the day so I would think that you would mention the story about the ropes being cut - if it happened.

Either Lathum is making up an elaborate story (and he seemed very freaked last night that he was about to be night killed) or you or Swaggs could have been the one on the boat who cut the ropes.

Also, talking about gathering consensus to ensure a lynch sounds wolfish to me in the context of this game, but I could be hearing things.

Sidenote: ntndeacon is the only one who hasn't told where they went on their day 3 excursion, but he wasn't able to be on much at all.

This is ten pages back, so who knows if other stuff has happened, but I thought I would respond while this was in front of me.

I can't offer anything on Lathum or Swaggs, as I received no information on them at all. I was told the shipwreck snorkeling event was booked solid, so I had to return to the ship (as I hadn't put in for any other activities). My PM just said I returned to the ship and spent a quiet day there. I guess I am not much of a partier.

So I can't offer any opinions on Lathum's rope thing (which I didn't even notice any discussion of until Lathum's vote) or on Swaggs, who I didn't see either. It's a cruise ship. I hardly think it's automatic I would see anything.

As for the consensus, you do realize we had a pretty clear vote and still failed to lynch our target, right? It seems obvious we need to dogpile on someone to get a lynch. So unless you believe we shouldn't be lynching people--our only tools for catching the underground--I have to wonder why you would not want to build toward a consensus on someone.

Sonic Youth · 04-10-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

I wonder if the only way for the boat to leave is for someone to accept conversion
I think the boat couldn't leave because of Sonic Youth's arrest
I will think about this mild diversion
Until next turn when Anxiety's state will attest

And you would be correct.

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I beleive SY was set up by the underground.

And so would you.

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Hence, i suspect that SY may have also been appraoched by the underground, and turrned them down, and thus was arrested due to planted evidence.

But not quite here. I wasn't approached, I took a sight seeing flight and saw something which I had an option to take of either informing the Captain or not saying anything. I'm very interested in what Olliegirl saw that day, and whether she is withholding anything now. Or anyone else who went on a flight that day. I'll have to check out that later.

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I mean if I was a wolf, looking to get more wolves, I don't think I'd pick the guy who had amassed like 16 votes over 2 days and by the accounts of most games should be gone.

This is not a normal WW game. I don't think you've understood how the voting works. Maybe a reread is in order?

claphamsa · 04-10-2008, 07:42 PM

do you know?

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 07:43 PM

SY, do you have information on how voting works beyond what's in the thread?

Sonic Youth · 04-10-2008, 07:46 PM

Basically, I went on a flight. Coming back to the where the flight started, I noticed an odd occurance on the docks. On the other side of the wharf from the cruise ship, cars and lots of gun fire. I then went and told the Captain, he called the cops. The cops then investigated, but found nothing. They decided to halt the craft for a day because of this and I was taken in for more questions about the incident in the process. I was released, and the cruise should continue now that the investigation has ceased.

Sonic Youth · 04-10-2008, 07:47 PM

Obviously not, but I know I'm here. So it must be different.

claphamsa · 04-10-2008, 07:52 PM

interesting.....

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 07:56 PM

SY (or anybody), is it possible you didn't get lynched BECAUSE of what happened to you?

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

For my part, I think Lathum would make up that story IF the wolves thought that whoever had cut the ropes had been spotted.

still catching up but if someone had spotted this don't you think they would have come forward by now?

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Another thing on Lathum. Early on, he seemed to draw conclusions from some pretty shaky evidence (like saying he trusted st. cronin, etc.). What I'd like to know is why? I have some ideas why he would do this, but I don't want to throw them out there for him to pick one and roll with it.

still catcvhing up but those who have played with me know I don't shy away from making early assumptions based on kinimal evidence.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

still catching up but if someone had spotted this don't you think they would have come forward by now?

Yes, I thought that didn't even need saying, to be honest.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I guess what I'm thinking is that if a wolf hints at being the seer early, its for the purpose of fake-revealing as a seer later. That ship has clearly sailed.

I do agree that Lathum is probably either a wolf, or is having a poor game as a villager. I side with the latter for now.

I actualy take some offense to this.

I was givin information. I shared it. End of story.

oliegirl · 04-10-2008, 08:29 PM

I'm back, I think I'm all caught up...

SY, to answer your question about the sight seeing flight...I chose to take that hoping that I would see something from the air, but I didn't. The only information my PM gave me was that I wasn't afraid of heights and enjoyed the tour. I've been very forthcoming with my information so far, tonight I chose to go shopping and was given a choice between browsing pawn shops and going to a craft store. I will post the results of my excursion once deadline hits and I get my PM.

I'm not sure I'll be awake for deadline, I'm exhausted from running around all day and then being at the hospital tonight. I'm going to go veg but if I'm still awake at 10:30 or so I'll check in and post what my excursion results were, otherwise it will be tomorrow morning.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I actually take some offense to this.

I was given information. I shared it. End of story.

No offense was intended, you know I think you're a good player. But your gameplay in this game has so far led directly to a lynch of a villager.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

No offense was intended, you know I think you're a good player. But your gameplay in this game has so far led directly to a lynch of a villager.

no. My sharing of information led to that. And it's not like I led a charge. I posted what I knew, made a vote and others chose to follow me.

would you rather I keep things to myself. IMO thaty is worse villager play

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

no. My sharing of information led to that. And it's not like I led a charge. I posted what I knew, made a vote and others chose to follow me.

would you rather I keep things to myself. IMO thaty is worse villager play

By the way, I asked you a question twice, and you still haven't answered it.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

By the way, I asked you a question twice, and you still haven't answered it.

what question is that?

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I got the same info as JEH on your injury - did everyone see the same group of people? I have several names from that activity this afternoon.

I don't have any 10PM options this time around.

Hate to sound like a broken record, but... (ditto, and watch out for them rays, man!)

No options either. Sorry, mccollins. I hope ntn's medicine works.

Chief Rum · 04-10-2008, 08:55 PM

All right, all caught up now.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:56 PM

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Lathum, I asked this earlier but you never answered, is it possible that the ropes were cut by somebody not on the ship, or by somebody as they were leaving the ship?

here you are

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

here you are

i did answer that and my answer was of course it's possible.

st.cronin · 04-10-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

i did answer that and my answer was of course it's possible.

Sorry, I didn't see the answer.

Alan T · 04-10-2008, 09:01 PM

Deadline, sending out pms now

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Sorry, I didn't see the answer.

i thought I put it somewhere but am to lazy to go back and look

mccollins · 04-10-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

this is the post where I said I stayed on the boat.

Please show me where I lied.

I never said I had no other options.

Here is what I was referring to:

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Originally Posted by Lathum

the problem I have with this is I also chose to drink heavily but received no such message about a hangover, I woke up the next day with seemingly no effect. Everything I said was an attempt to trap someone.

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Basicly I said I stayed on the ship because I had a hangover. I was purposly implying that I had no other choice.

I did this on purpose, hoping someone else would claim the same scenerio. If they did I could safely assume they were lying, since no such thing really happened.

Perhaps this is accepted Villager play; I dunno. Seems like it could really just make you look like a liar instead of trying to trap someone.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 09:20 PM

kind of dead around hear

Sonic Youth · 04-10-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

I'm back, I think I'm all caught up...

SY, to answer your question about the sight seeing flight...I chose to take that hoping that I would see something from the air, but I didn't. The only information my PM gave me was that I wasn't afraid of heights and enjoyed the tour. I've been very forthcoming with my information so far, tonight I chose to go shopping and was given a choice between browsing pawn shops and going to a craft store. I will post the results of my excursion once deadline hits and I get my PM.

Fair enough. I guess it's like getting stung by a Stingray where one did and the rest didn't and didn't see anything.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 09:21 PM

what would I have to gain from lying McCollins?

The Jackal · 04-10-2008, 09:21 PM

I'm here, just waiting on my PM.

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 09:22 PM

Sonic, the one difference that I see in your example is that we all received news of mccollins being stung by a stingray in our PM. As far as I can tell, no one had any idea what was going on with your side stuff.

Kind of like my interaction with the elementary school teacher - that was a case where the other parties didn't see anything.

The Jackal · 04-10-2008, 09:25 PM

I never went on a flightseeing tour, but isn't it possible that they were on separate flights? I feel like clap or someone else mentioned that there were multiple flights per day.

hoopsguy · 04-10-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Perhaps this is accepted Villager play; I dunno. Seems like it could really just make you look like a liar instead of trying to trap someone.

I would suggest that "accepted Villager play" when lying is that it is much more tolerable when it works out with the death of a wolf.

When it doesn't, then you have to think harder about intent.

Lathum wasn't under any undue pressure at that point in the game. He certainly is at this point. Lathum has been a wolf a number of times, and I don't really see him making this play early in a game as a wolf. If we had half of the people out of the game then it would be more likely for him to attempt something like this - usually this is the type of thing you might try to set up an end-game scenario or distract villagers from a more valuable wolf.

Just my two cents.

Lathum · 04-10-2008, 09:28 PM

I agree with hoops

The Jackal · 04-10-2008, 09:30 PM

So at this point, we're imagining that any members of the underground among us were approached on one of their excursions and lied about not having anything happen?

The Jackal · 04-10-2008, 09:34 PM

Okay, I went to the pawn shop and didn't find much, but when I left someone gave me an item. I have some choices with it, I want to hear what happened with Olie at least before I make any decisions.

Alan T · 04-10-2008, 09:36 PM

You all return to the ship after your day of adventure once again in George Town. Once all had boarded the ship, The Captain announces that the ship is ready to set sail again and tommorrow you will be docking in Montego Bay!

A quick look around and you notice that PurdueBrad, Barkeep and SonicYouth all have returned to the ship as well, however now a new person is missing! It appears that Raiders Army did not return to the ship!!

None the less it appears that nothing will keep the ship in port any longer, and before you know it the Cruise leaves dock once again for the open sea. You decide to flip through your pamphlet a bit to see where you want to visit tommorrow!

Montego Bay:

The recently renovated "Mo' Bay," as the locals call this town, competes with Ocho Rios as the island's most visited resort town. Montego Bay has great bars and restaurants, renowned shopping, and an endless array of leisure activities. And with the friendly hospitality of the Jamaican people, having a great time is always "no problem."

- Stroll down Gloucester Avenue and experience the great shopping and restaurants
- Play a round of golf at the beautiful Wyndham Rose Hall Golf & Beach Resort.
- Explore the island's beaches by swimming, suntanning, snorkeling, diving and horse-back riding.
- Kick back and relax with a local favorite, Red Stripe beer at a nearby Bar.

Turn 4 has ended, and once again this turn you have a vote to make. You also should PM me with what destination you want to experience tommorrow in Montego Bay. All PMs and votes are due by 3pm EST Friday.

Weekend schedule will be the following:

3pm EST Friday - Turn 5 Voting phase deadline
10pm EST Saturday - Turn 5 Event phase deadline
3pm EST Monday - Turn 6 voting phase deadline.

If you will have any kind of problems being here between 3pm Friday and 10pm Saturday night for the event phase, please drop me a PM and we can try to work out some form of conditional orders that you may have for event phase ahead of time.

TazFTW · 04-10-2008, 09:41 PM

Red Stripe, it's beer
Lets yell out a cheer
Hooray Beer!
I hope the captain knows how to steer

04-10-2008, 07:42 PM	#1416
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	do you know? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-10-2008, 07:43 PM	#1417
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	SY, do you have information on how voting works beyond what's in the thread? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

04-10-2008, 07:52 PM	#1420
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	interesting..... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-10-2008, 07:56 PM	#1421
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	SY (or anybody), is it possible you didn't get lynched BECAUSE of what happened to you? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

04-10-2008, 08:55 PM	#1432
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	All right, all caught up now. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-10-2008, 07:26 PM	#1411
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Hey Sonic Youth, what's up? They didn't probe you did they?

04-10-2008, 07:26 PM	#1412
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Did they?

04-10-2008, 07:29 PM	#1413
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	If they probed him, I don't want him back.

04-10-2008, 07:46 PM	#1418
Sonic Youth H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2008	Basically, I went on a flight. Coming back to the where the flight started, I noticed an odd occurance on the docks. On the other side of the wharf from the cruise ship, cars and lots of gun fire. I then went and told the Captain, he called the cops. The cops then investigated, but found nothing. They decided to halt the craft for a day because of this and I was taken in for more questions about the incident in the process. I was released, and the cruise should continue now that the investigation has ceased.

04-10-2008, 07:47 PM	#1419
Sonic Youth H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Mar 2008	Obviously not, but I know I'm here. So it must be different.

04-10-2008, 09:01 PM	#1436
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Deadline, sending out pms now

04-10-2008, 09:20 PM	#1439
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	kind of dead around hear

04-10-2008, 09:21 PM	#1441
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	what would I have to gain from lying McCollins?

04-10-2008, 09:21 PM	#1442
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm here, just waiting on my PM.

04-10-2008, 09:22 PM	#1443
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Sonic, the one difference that I see in your example is that we all received news of mccollins being stung by a stingray in our PM. As far as I can tell, no one had any idea what was going on with your side stuff. Kind of like my interaction with the elementary school teacher - that was a case where the other parties didn't see anything.

04-10-2008, 09:25 PM	#1444
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I never went on a flightseeing tour, but isn't it possible that they were on separate flights? I feel like clap or someone else mentioned that there were multiple flights per day.

04-10-2008, 09:28 PM	#1446
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I agree with hoops

04-10-2008, 09:30 PM	#1447
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	So at this point, we're imagining that any members of the underground among us were approached on one of their excursions and lied about not having anything happen?

04-10-2008, 09:34 PM	#1448
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Okay, I went to the pawn shop and didn't find much, but when I left someone gave me an item. I have some choices with it, I want to hear what happened with Olie at least before I make any decisions.

04-10-2008, 09:36 PM	#1449
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	You all return to the ship after your day of adventure once again in George Town. Once all had boarded the ship, The Captain announces that the ship is ready to set sail again and tommorrow you will be docking in Montego Bay! A quick look around and you notice that PurdueBrad, Barkeep and SonicYouth all have returned to the ship as well, however now a new person is missing! It appears that Raiders Army did not return to the ship!! None the less it appears that nothing will keep the ship in port any longer, and before you know it the Cruise leaves dock once again for the open sea. You decide to flip through your pamphlet a bit to see where you want to visit tommorrow! Montego Bay: The recently renovated "Mo' Bay," as the locals call this town, competes with Ocho Rios as the island's most visited resort town. Montego Bay has great bars and restaurants, renowned shopping, and an endless array of leisure activities. And with the friendly hospitality of the Jamaican people, having a great time is always "no problem." - Stroll down Gloucester Avenue and experience the great shopping and restaurants - Play a round of golf at the beautiful Wyndham Rose Hall Golf & Beach Resort. - Explore the island's beaches by swimming, suntanning, snorkeling, diving and horse-back riding. - Kick back and relax with a local favorite, Red Stripe beer at a nearby Bar. Turn 4 has ended, and once again this turn you have a vote to make. You also should PM me with what destination you want to experience tommorrow in Montego Bay. All PMs and votes are due by 3pm EST Friday. Weekend schedule will be the following: 3pm EST Friday - Turn 5 Voting phase deadline 10pm EST Saturday - Turn 5 Event phase deadline 3pm EST Monday - Turn 6 voting phase deadline. If you will have any kind of problems being here between 3pm Friday and 10pm Saturday night for the event phase, please drop me a PM and we can try to work out some form of conditional orders that you may have for event phase ahead of time.

04-10-2008, 09:41 PM	#1450
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Red Stripe, it's beer Lets yell out a cheer Hooray Beer! I hope the captain knows how to steer __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

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