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Old 05-09-2008, 12:52 PM   #1351
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I am a bit worried about last minute shenanigans, given that white villagers aren't enough of a voting block to get Anxiety.

We have 6 pawns PLUS a piece advantage, how don't we have enough of a block?
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:52 PM   #1352
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weird, I had lots of line breaks in that post....
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:53 PM   #1353
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The Chickenman it is....or is the Boilermaker man...
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:54 PM   #1354
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It's the Boilermaker man, so you'll scan the black and gold running through my veins in addition to both my white and villager exterior.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:55 PM   #1355
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I'm not making an attack on anyone...I can't speak for the pawns...

I'll scan PurdueBrad...
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:55 PM   #1356
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I'd recommend someone to Jackal as well...
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:55 PM   #1357
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I don't know if I can pull off what I did yesterday which was lecture and be on at deadline but I should be on here for the next forty to forty-five minutes.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:56 PM   #1358
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PB, if Sonic Youth is the other black pawn and he's asleep in Australia, he could've already put the order in to capture you with no way to cancel that order.

I would suggest moving E5 to E6 on turn 1 so you don't get captured since E6 is a place Qwik (D4) can scan (it's a knight move square).
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:57 PM   #1359
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We have 6 pawns PLUS a piece advantage, how don't we have enough of a block?

If either of the white pawns is a wolf, the best case scenario is black villagers + wolves = white villagers. Here's the math:

8 white pieces, 5 black pieces, including 1 pawn, so a total of 8 votes. To that 8 votes, add 2 white pieces, now its 10 votes. White villagers then have 6 pieces, possibly including as many 6 pawns, for 10 votes.

This is assuming white has 2 wolves, which may not be true. Its also assuming black and the wolves can coordinate their vote, which I am not sure how that's possible except through signals in the thread.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:57 PM   #1360
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I'd recommend someone to Jackal as well...

Is that possible? BK, you, Anxiety, Jackal are the knights correct?
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:58 PM   #1361
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PB, if Sonic Youth is the other black pawn and he's asleep in Australia, he could've already put the order in to capture you with no way to cancel that order.

I would suggest moving E5 to E6 on turn 1 so you don't get captured since E6 is a place Qwik (D4) can scan (it's a knight move square).

Qwik, what are your feelings on this? I'll take my cue from you. It makes sense to me from a protection standpoint so I may do this.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:00 PM   #1362
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We've decided that regardless of when I move from E5 to E6 or IF I make that move, that Qwik can still scan me, right?

IF you guys can verify this, I'll make a decision on what I will or won't do.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:01 PM   #1363
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If Qwik can see you now, then he can scan you regardless of when you move.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:13 PM   #1364
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If Qwik can see you now, then he can scan you regardless of when you move.

Got it, my movement or non-movement decision will be based on this information. In all honesty, I guess this will be the one thing I will keep secret for my own safety. I'm not attacking, I'm either:

staying put
or moving forward one space if open
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:21 PM   #1365
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Is that possible? BK, you, Anxiety, Jackal are the knights correct?


I meant the group should suggest someone for him to scan...
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:25 PM   #1366
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Who was it that scanned St. Cronin the first time? If it was Qwik, I wouldn't mind seeing Jackal do it too, just to reaffirm. I know that sounds like overkill but I'm with RendeR on how things are playing out.

Otherwise, I wouldn't mind seeing either Mccollins or JEHeinz get scanned.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:29 PM   #1367
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Qwik has scanned me. I think The Jackal can scan me tonight, I'll have to check my board again.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:32 PM   #1368
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I meant the group should suggest someone for him to scan...

I'm pretty sure we've missed that mark. I think he said he was scanning someone already and he's gone until post-deadline. I'll look now.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:33 PM   #1369
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FYI I'll be gone from 1:30-3:30ish, but as soon as I get back I'll post my scan result.

Yeah, we missed him.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:34 PM   #1370
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I'll be scanning you tonight, Render. I'm 95-100% positive you're right next to me. So we'll find out if you're a wolf or not.

Looks like he's scanning RendeR. He could scan me as well, I believe I'm right next to him starting off the evening.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:34 PM   #1371
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<-------- Anxious. I think I know how those guys in the shark cages on the Discovery Channel feel.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:34 PM   #1372
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Looking at the board, I don't think it would be possible for The Jackal to scan me tonight, unless he moved to exactly the right spot. I think he's probably scanning RendeR, just based on where he is on the board.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:59 PM   #1373
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Quiet deadline, not that surprising...
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:01 PM   #1374
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Did everybody vote? I don't think Abe or Neon voted.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:02 PM   #1375
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I have no idea. I guess it doesn't matter for Abe realistically.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:04 PM   #1376
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Order deadline passed Pass?
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:05 PM   #1377
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Order deadline passed Pass?

Yep. I'm not going to do an official vote count, but cronin had it right -- Anxiety and Neon did not vote.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:06 PM   #1378
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Write up coming soon? I ask b/c I'm already 5 minutes late on leaving for the weekend
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:07 PM   #1379
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The Pieces are in an uncanny agreeance today. Black and White unite even moreso today, upon the suggestion of the daring Qwikshot, who uses his keen detective skills to to deduce that Anxiety is a wolf and must be lynched. Elementary. Anxiety howls as he is strung up. Anxiety was a Black Knight and a wolf! Night passes by with one minor scuffle, that seems to have consisted of nothing more than some shouting. However, when you wake up, you find that the wolves have earned revenge upon poor Qwikshot, killing him and leaving his pipe stuck in an unfortunate place. Qwikshot was a Black Knight!
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:08 PM   #1380
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That seems like a dumb move by the wolves.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:11 PM   #1381
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That move is...strange.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:13 PM   #1382
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I'm actually surprised somebody didn't guard him since I figured he was the obvious night kill. Although since I thought that, maybe that makes me dumb too.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:17 PM   #1383
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Not what I was expecting at all, I have to admit.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:17 PM   #1384
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In the minor understatement of the year.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #1385
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That seems like a dumb move by the wolves.

Although, knowing one of their wolf brethren was about to be outed no matter what, maybe it isn't surprising.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #1386
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So there are only 3 black pieces left, right? Neon, 4 pawns, and a rook?
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:20 PM   #1387
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Well I'm out for the weekend, leaving on a confused note. I'll catch up on the weekend stuff Monday AM.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:22 PM   #1388
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I'm confused - why wouldn't people expect the wolves to kill a seer?

And why didn't one of the rooks bodyguard Qwik? Perhaps they're wolves as well (or not paying attention)?
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:24 PM   #1389
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:25 PM   #1390
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One wouldn't expect the wolves to kill a black piece. There's only 3 black pieces left, now.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:25 PM   #1391
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I'm confused - why wouldn't people expect the wolves to kill a seer?

And why didn't one of the rooks bodyguard Qwik? Perhaps they're wolves as well (or not paying attention)?

These are the exact right questions and I'm surprised that others are surprised.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:25 PM   #1392
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Waiting for The Jackal's results before I post my thoughts.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:26 PM   #1393
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So there are only 3 black pieces left, right? Neon, 4 pawns, and a rook?

Correct.

White has King, 2 Rooks, 2 Bishops, Knight, 6 pawns.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:33 PM   #1394
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One wouldn't expect the wolves to kill a black piece. There's only 3 black pieces left, now.

But one would always expect a wolf to kill a knight, irrespective of color, since they are the only means we have to find wolves besides lynches. Let's hope Jackal is a villager and can help us out.

Good Rook(s): I'd bodyguard Jackal if you can (I don't know from what type of attack though) until we figure more out.
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:04 PM   #1395
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Actually, now that I think about it, killing Qwik makes a certain amount of sense. We were pretty unlikely to lynch a black piece today, so taking him off the board maximizes our candidates.
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #1396
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Just got back. Render came back as a wolf. I realize there probably won't be much discussion over the weekend, but there you have it.

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Old 05-09-2008, 03:15 PM   #1397
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and oh yeah...

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Old 05-09-2008, 03:18 PM   #1398
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That confirms Cronin's suspicion that his partner is a wolf. If RendeR is a villager, then Jackal is next. I'd say Cronin, but Qwikshot verifying that he's a villager and then Qwikshot being a villager clears him in my book.

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Old 05-09-2008, 03:24 PM   #1399
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Ok: I believe either Jackal or Render is a wolf, but I recommend White not vote off anybody on our side, and focus on mating Neon. White controls the vote, unless the White wolves vote with black - in which case their allegiance will be known.

2. The Jackal - White Knight
3. mccollins - White Pawns?
5. jeheinz72 - White Rook?
6. st.cronin - White Bishop
9. Narcizo - White Rook?
10. PurdueBrad - White Pawns
11. RendeR - White Bishop
14. oliegirl - Black Rook?
15. ntndeacon - White King
18. Sonic Youth - Black Pawns?
19. Neon_Chaos - Black King

These are my guesses. I think white should be trying to vote off the black rook today, and the black pawns tomorrow. Even if the wolves pick off two white pieces, we should still be able to mate Neon and win.

Jackal, I think you should reconsider your vote.

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Old 05-09-2008, 03:25 PM   #1400
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Guys, Qwikshot being killed changes the whole game. The wolves are no longer capable of stopping us. Don't vote for a wolf, vote for somebody on Black.
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