werewolf LIV! Terror at the country club (GAME OVER WOLVES WIN)

[EagleFan]

A quick day one summary for the remaining players. I planned on doing all of the days but not enough time. Post 289 is THE REVEAL post.


1. Purduebrad
(113) Checks in, to be back near deadline
(194) votes RPI-Fan, for no other reason than hoops played a good game the last time he played
(205) says he may move vote after being voted for and called shady for the vote, someone convince him...
(215) unvote RPI
(224) asks how many wolves
(228) says he now sees that he broke the tie with his unvote
(230) asks why we don't engineer ties
(263) says he will stay around to help force a tie
(297) vote AlanT

2. RenderR
(70) votes hoopsguy
(75) unvote hoopsguy, vote alanT
(77) unvote alant, vote DT
(95) unvote DT, vote St. Cronin
(147) calls Cronin out
(181) cals out cronin again
(190) more cronin taunting
(208) more man crush taunting of cronin
(239) points out that cronis normally HATES no lynch after cronin advocated it
(255) tries to patch things up with cronin, to save finger pointing until tomorrow
(257) says NC is a tempting vote
(305) says that NC lying would be a poor play, in response to cronin
(313) unvote cronin, vote DT

3. Crim
(271) says he was in off topin and remembered it started today so he came into the thread
(278) asks if he can not vote without penalty
(288) asks if there is a case against neon (289 is THE REVEAL)
(308) vote Path, explanation to follow

4. Chief Rum

5. St.Cronin
(87) vote RendeR
(118) no one hardly listens to him (response to quote about veterans)
(120) Asks for anyone who hasn't checked in
(122) points out Crim, CR and DNA not checked in, adds RA in 123
(128) not fan of changing votes, barring a reveal he adds, says RPI and CR not ideal candidates to vote for
(137) points out who has not voted
(163) says if he needs to move his vote it will be to NC
(175) says changing day one votes is unnecesary interference
(183) points out that CR has rep of being a clever villager able to detect wolves
(186) adds that he meant in later rounds and that it is just a reputation and that he thinks some are overrated
(212) points out to Lathum that he missed olliegirl's vote of NC
(217) points out that PurdueBrad's unvote of RPI actually breaks the tie and puts NC in the lead
(236) agrees with Purdue in engineering a tie
(240) responds to RendeR that he is the most vocal for no lynch game after game
(258) says preference is no lynch, somone other than himself, Crim
(294) geez, second agame in a row with day one reveal
(296) unvote Render, vote RPI
(304) suggests it possible that NC is lying?

10. Oliegirl
(199) votes NC, to go back and read what she missed
(209) points out to lathum that he missed her vote of NC
(216) says she is tired and leaving

11. Mr.DNA
(127) checks in with remark about home from fields, like good villagers do
(143) votes AlanT, jokes about AC being on to him

12. Eaglefan
(104, 105) Check in and ask ratio of wolves to villagers, response from RPI in 106
(132) Votes NC
(167) unvote NC, vote hoopsguy
(173) incorrectly assumes about the voting
(251) call out NC for wanting to wait for someone else to vote before he would

13. Passacaglia
(65) Voices it bad form to vote out new players
(115) votes CR

14. Path12
(103) Waiting until people check in, then vote who doesn't
(129) votes Crim
(295) tells DT that no vote today gets his vote tomorrow
(298) unvote Crim, vote RPI

17. Raiders Army
(140) votes EagleFan, does not like the NC vote after AlanT voted

20. Hoopsguy
(57) Toys with voting DT off, based on DT not wanting out in day one
(68) Posts 4 theories in day one voting, voices he will vote early to see momentum
(82) vote RPI-Fan
(116) Tells Pass that CR will be away and that he is giving him a pass because of that
(145) defends RPI vote and movement behind it, mentions villagers changing vote to test theory
(214) suggests a scan of the two leading vote getters RPI and NC

21. Arlington Colt
(71) Thanks for welcome, he's going to study previous WW games to see how it's done
(141) votes DNA

[hoopsguy]

Let's not make this out to be more than it is - there are four people within one vote right now. It isn't just a two-man race. I don't think he has to vote for one of the top two. However, I don't think either Crim is likely to end up as the lynch guy tonight, based upon multiple people suggesting they trust him.

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

They (Path and RendeR) should both switch votes from elsewhere to the other one. And then it will be interesting to see who else moves, and why, given a tie = no lynch.

I actually haven't voted yet so it won't switch off anyone.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

No, I don't feel threatened or even really patronized. I guess I'm curious at the suddenness of this as I've been on Crim all day. I understand I'm not swinging anybody or honestly trying that hard, but all that is going to happen is if I move, it'll look bad.

We get a bad lynch, I must be a wolf
We get a good lynch, I must have moved my vote to conceal being a wolf

Right now, the two people I seem to trust the most voted for me twice (Eaglefan) and one of that I've not spoken to at all (Olliegirl). Hoops, you've slipped a bit because I'm not sure where to place you in all this.

Sarcastic answer - welcome to werewolf, particularly in the later stages.

Nicer answer - the problem isn't a vote on Crim, per se. It is the fact that this is a critical vote that has a good chance of ending up in a tie based upon the current makeup. Since you are the only person with a single vote on a person, you are drawing more attention.

[PurdueBrad]

I understand that, guess I'm not a fan of being in a villager and moving into a situation that makes me look wolf no matter what happens.

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, Hoops, based on what you said, I'm going back over the top four and making a choice. I'm drawn to two of them and I'll see what I can come up with. This should make everyone happy and set me up to be lynched tomorrow.

[hoopsguy]

Hi Neon!

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Alright, Hoops, based on what you said, I'm going back over the top four and making a choice. I'm drawn to two of them and I'll see what I can come up with. This should make everyone happy and set me up to be lynched tomorrow.

Cheer up, you could always be night killed

Or, you could end up being the tie-breaking vote on a wolf and be a frigging hero.

[PurdueBrad]

Hoops, the way things are going, if I'm on the wolf, people (and yeah, you would probably be one at this point) would say that it was a must do move to cover myself by sacrificing another wolf. I'm learning the paranoia aspect of this game. brb, reading more posts.

[path12]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

14. Path12
(103) Waiting until people check in, then vote who doesn't
(129) votes Crim
(295) tells DT that no vote today gets his vote tomorrow
(298) unvote Crim, vote RPI

Hoops, I would maintain that there is nothing there that is out of character for me.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I don't think you have to dig. Here is what I've said:

Crim pushed HARD for Mr. Bug two nights in a row, what turned out to be a bad lynch.

St. Cronin actually defended Crim, which has also made me suspicious of both.

Finally, the Chief Rum and St. Cronin discussion bugged me. I originally put it on St. Cronin but there is doubt creeping in on the other side as well.

IF RendeR is a wolf, his kill of Barkeep is really a ballsy play that paid off for a long time but I don't think I buy it. Or he's very clever and I am very dense.

I see that you unvoted for Crim, if you are equally suspicious of cronin then that seems like a logical place to put your vote.

If you have that much conviction on Crim, go ahead and vote for him; i dont think anyone waa trying bully you, we were just pointing out how your vote for Crim would be interpreted...

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

However, I don't think either Crim is likely to end up as the lynch guy tonight, based upon multiple people suggesting they trust him.

Either Crim or who?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by path12

Hoops, I would maintain that there is nothing there that is out of character for me.

Nope, those four posts are absolutely standard for you.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by path12

Either Crim or who?

Was going to be PurdueBrad, but saw that you had not cast a vote for him yet. I was citing the people who I thought had only one vote at the time.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hi Neon!

Hiya!

[PurdueBrad]

Ollie, your advice is appreciated. I think I'm going a different route but one that still could make a big difference.

vote Chief Rum

[hoopsguy]

Purdue, make sure you have an unvote in for your vote - don't want to leave it in the hands of the moderator to interpret.

[PurdueBrad]

He's one of my three and this puts him on the tie I believe. I think RendeR is a bad play.

[Passacaglia]

What the?

[hoopsguy]

Arlington - no show for a pretty big vote.

Path, as it stands now you get to call it.

[PurdueBrad]

My unvote is 1350, interpret away on my new choice.

[path12]

I think Brad is expecting me to go RendeR now.

VOTE CHIEF

[EagleFan]

This is bad, only a wolf would want a tie tonight, especially if a fellow wolf was on the chopping block

[Lathum]

deadline

[EagleFan]

unvote cronin, vote path

[Passacaglia]

Wow, this is seriously messed up.

[hoopsguy]

Just to make sure - you are following the guy that you think is your most likely bad guy?

[EagleFan]

dola, damn

[Lathum]

Eaglefan's vote WILL COUNT

[hoopsguy]

Here is what I show:

Chief 4- RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296), Purdue (1366), Path (1372)

RendeR 3- Chief (1282), Olie (1284), Raiders (1315)

Path 3- Hoops (1287), Pass (1318), DNA (1321)

Cronin 2- Eagle (1247), Crim (1266)

No vote - Arlington

[hoopsguy]

Ugh - with Eagle's move we have a tie.

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Just to make sure - you are following the guy that you think is your most likely bad guy?

No, I think the guy I think is the most likely bad guy was trying to play head games and put his vote somewhere he didn't think I'd go. I've already said I think either you or Chief is bad.

[PurdueBrad]

Hoops, I assume that is directed at me. Yes, I am (behind perhaps Crim). I said it earlier that I think Cronin is the Goth and I may be wrong but I've said it all day (so at least I get to stand by that conviction). So that meant to me that the argument with Chief was to draw Chief's attention to him. So yeah, this is where I'm going.

[EagleFan]

for the record, I still think cronin craves human flesh but it seems people becked off from him tonight so I took a shot that the wolves were trying to protect one of their own by forcing a tie

[hoopsguy]

OK, looks like we do it again tomorrow, minus one player.

[path12]

Or I could just be way too paranoid and outguessed myself. It happens.

[EagleFan]

dola: double damn, I thought I was unbreaking a tie

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Hoops, I assume that is directed at me. Yes, I am (behind perhaps Crim). I said it earlier that I think Cronin is the Goth and I may be wrong but I've said it all day (so at least I get to stand by that conviction). So that meant to me that the argument with Chief was to draw Chief's attention to him. So yeah, this is where I'm going.

Was directed at Path, actually. Sorry, should have quoted the vote with the post.

[path12]

Eagle, why did you switch to me?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

for the record, I still think cronin craves human flesh but it seems people becked off from him tonight so I took a shot that the wolves were trying to protect one of their own by forcing a tie

Dude, look at the posts!!! YOU forced the tie!

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by path12

Or I could just be way too paranoid and outguessed myself. It happens.

Hard to have him as both the clueless newbie wolf and the guy playing head games in the final seconds.

[EagleFan]

I'll let you know what size noose to use for my lynching tomorrow, figure I f'd this one up tonight and don;t blame a soul for coming after me tomorrow.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: double damn, I thought I was unbreaking a tie

Oh give me a break. I am pissed at all of you, and will have to sleep on my vote -- it'll probably come in the morning.

[hoopsguy]

Looks like Chief is probably going to live the night at this point, given how close he was to lynch today.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by path12

Eagle, why did you switch to me?

I have already suspected Purdue and thought his vote for CR was to protect a fellow wolf and that seemed to point to you. Oddly you are not on my suspect list.

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Hard to have him as both the clueless newbie wolf and the guy playing head games in the final seconds.

I didn't say he was clueless, I said he seems like a first time wolf. And first time wolves oftentimes try to get too clever.

[Lathum]

Path 4- Hoops (1287), Pass (1318) MrDNA (1321),Eagle (1375),
Chief 4- RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296), PurdueBrad(1366), Path12 (1372)
RendeR 3- Chief (1282), Olie (1284), Raiders (1315)
Cronin 1- Crim (1266)

[RendeR]

Rummy and Raiders, based on those last votes jumping.

[hoopsguy]

OK, at some later point in the game - hopefully sooner rather than later - I'm expecting to get some real mileage out of this vote today. People were put in positions where they had to make choices today, which makes me think that this was our best vote to review since Day 1. Better, more likely, once we have some context.

[path12]

Dola, that should say "I didn't say he was clueless, even if he did go to Purdue"....