09-10-2007, 07:48 PM | #1301 | |
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Okay. What's your point? Also, if I shouldn't vote for you, whom should I vote for? |
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09-10-2007, 07:48 PM | #1302 |
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I honestly = I'm honestly. No editing rocks.
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09-10-2007, 07:51 PM | #1303 | |
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Again, I received a serving tray. I passed it to Crim. There. It's out there. I passed it to him since at the time I believed that he was a villager. He was right about Neon, caught him in a lie and I thought he was right on with Bug. That was why I passed it to him. |
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09-10-2007, 07:52 PM | #1304 | |
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You got me. Seriously, I've been trying to vote for Path both yesterday and today so that is who I would tell you right now. But if you think I'm the most likely wolf, then why would you want me to tell you where to vote? If it is a vote of non-confidence, I would encourage you to go get a wolf instead. If it is a vote where you think I'm the most likely wolf, I'm going to try and convince you and others that I'm not the most likely wolf. That part doesn't change no matter what side I'm playing. Do you agree with my point about the serving tray, though? I think that is a point that I had not yet raised in the thread that is important. |
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09-10-2007, 07:52 PM | #1305 |
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Hoops, I obviously have no read on path, which is nothing new. He's like ntn or tyrith, just a solid player that I'm never quite sure on. So I certainly think its POSSIBLE that he's a wolf. I do think its more likely that CR is a wolf. His whole "Neon was a wolf on day 1" argument just seems bizarre to me - its very out of character for him.
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09-10-2007, 07:53 PM | #1306 | |
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So you didn't learn who passed it to you, correct? That is what I was hoping someone could clarify for MrDNA (and the rest of us). |
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09-10-2007, 07:53 PM | #1307 |
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Hoops, about the serving tray - at this point, what ARE you willing to use as a basis for trust?
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09-10-2007, 07:55 PM | #1308 | |
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I can completely see where Rum is coming from on Neon. However, if we don't have a way to ascertain the real answer then I feel like it is more of a distraction than an asset at this point in the game. Push comes to shove, I think that no kill + no bodyguard block on that person + no items admitted coming into play (with no downside on admitting) = Neon/Goth. But only the wolves know for sure, and they aren't going to tell us. Worse, I worry that they might try to make that conversation something that draws our attention instead of looking at the other people in the clubhouse here and now. |
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09-10-2007, 07:57 PM | #1309 | |
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That is correct. I do not know who passed it to me. I assumed it was Olliegirl, but when I found (to my chagrin) that there were more than one, it left me not having an idea as to who passed it to me. |
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09-10-2007, 07:59 PM | #1310 | |
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Sorry, also had to look back since I was skimming when I got home from work. I think it's likely that you are a wolf since if I were a wolf, I'd get you from the beginning. I think you know that from other games we've played. Anyhow, asking you for whom I should vote is just a feeler on what your thought process is. Then again, it's after halftime, so I'm back to skimming again. |
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09-10-2007, 08:00 PM | #1311 | |
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Not much - wish I had a better answer. Posts that relate to known wolves, which is why I've mined Day 1 so heavily in my analysis. That is about it at this point in the game, which is why it is so critical we get one ASAP. If we miss today I'm thinking we'll have to be either perfect or very close to it the rest of the way. |
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09-10-2007, 08:03 PM | #1312 | |
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And yet, you don't think its important whether Neon was the goth on day 1 or not? I'm out, I'll try to get back on before deadline but I may not be able to. I can't believe we have votes on 6 different people. |
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09-10-2007, 08:04 PM | #1313 | |
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I'm all for the wolves leaving me around another day or two. If they feel like they have me hoodwinked, they should leave me around to blindly stumble and have a good laugh at my expense after the game is over. I understand the question but I can't give you a definitive answer. In terms of you getting me early as a wolf - yeah, I've been onto you early a couple of times so I would like to think that you would come gunning for me, but wolf team actions do not necessarily match how an individual would play. And there have been some juicy, exposed roles out there in the bodyguard, "seer", and trusted villager. |
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09-10-2007, 08:06 PM | #1314 | |
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I do think it is important - I just don't think we can get a definite answer without lynching the Goth. The chances of that happening go down every day (if they are not already zero). The other way we could gain more info is if there is another night of "no lynch". |
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09-10-2007, 08:08 PM | #1315 | |
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Good points. I'm good with going for RendeR who took out a villager. UNVOTE HOOPSGUY VOTE RENDER |
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09-10-2007, 08:09 PM | #1316 |
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I still show the vote, as of Post #1314 as:
Cronin - Eagle (1247), Crim (1266) RendeR - Chief (1282), Olie (1284) Chief - RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296) Hoops - Raiders (1281) Path - Hoops (1287) Crim - Purdue (1237) Still to vote - Path, DNA, Arlington, Pass |
09-10-2007, 08:10 PM | #1317 |
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Updated to reflect Raiders vote:
RendeR - Chief (1282), Olie (1284), Raiders (1315) Cronin - Eagle (1247), Crim (1266) Chief - RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296) Path - Hoops (1287) Crim - Purdue (1237) Still to vote - Path, DNA, Arlington, Pass |
09-10-2007, 08:22 PM | #1318 |
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Mostly caught up. I still think we've got to look at path/cronin, especially if Bug wasn't a wolf.
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09-10-2007, 08:24 PM | #1319 |
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Update
RendeR 3- Chief (1282), Olie (1284), Raiders (1315) Cronin 2- Eagle (1247), Crim (1266) Chief 2- RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296) Path 2- Hoops (1287), Pass (1318) Crim 1- Purdue (1237) Still to vote - DNA, Arlington, Path Last edited by Lathum : 09-10-2007 at 08:36 PM. |
09-10-2007, 08:25 PM | #1320 |
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Alrighty then. I'm leaving my vote as is. Good luck everyone.
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09-10-2007, 08:32 PM | #1322 | |
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Um, I wasn't going to vote for myself.
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09-10-2007, 08:36 PM | #1324 |
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09-10-2007, 08:36 PM | #1325 |
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Since hoops asked, and I like hoops so well, here are the statements I believe to be filled with truthiness for this game so far:
1) I believe Neon was the goth. 2) hoops is wrong about me. 3) Apparently so are DNA and Pass. 4) I have no more than a lean either way in this game. 5) I lean good towards Crim, Eaglefan, Raiders, and Oliegirl. 6) I lean bad towards Purdue and RendeR. 7) I believe that one of Chief or hoops is bad. 8) I have no feelings about anyone else.
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09-10-2007, 08:37 PM | #1326 |
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Dola, I'd toss Pass in number 6 above also.
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09-10-2007, 08:38 PM | #1328 |
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Path, if you weren't voting out of self-preservation, who do you think is the most likely to be a wolf and why?
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09-10-2007, 08:38 PM | #1329 |
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So RendeR and I are tied with 3?
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09-10-2007, 08:39 PM | #1330 | |
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PurdueBrad. He screams first time wolf to me.
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09-10-2007, 08:39 PM | #1331 |
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RendeR 3- Chief (1282), Olie (1284), Raiders (1315) Path 3- Hoops (1287), Pass (1318) MrDNA (1321) Cronin 2- Eagle (1247), Crim (1266) Chief 2- RendeR (1289), Cronin (1296) Crim 1- Purdue (1237) Still to vote - Arlington, Path Last edited by Lathum : 09-10-2007 at 08:39 PM. |
09-10-2007, 08:50 PM | #1332 |
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Path, I find it interesting that you think the person who is most likely to be a wolf is a person who isn't doing anything to influence the vote today. Meanwhile Pass has voted for you - another that you have on your list of distrust.
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09-10-2007, 08:51 PM | #1333 |
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09-10-2007, 08:54 PM | #1334 |
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If path votes for RendeR and RendeR votes for path, I have a bad feeling we're headed toward a tie today. Unless...how much do we trust ArlingtonColt?
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09-10-2007, 08:55 PM | #1335 | |
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I find it interesting also. Especially with the current counts.
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09-10-2007, 08:57 PM | #1337 |
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Going digging for posts from Purdue ...
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09-10-2007, 08:57 PM | #1338 |
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I stand by my vote given what I've said so far, there have been two things now about Crim that bug me and I've mentioned them. Would you be any less concerned if I dumped my convictions and hopped on a bandwagon?
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09-10-2007, 08:58 PM | #1339 | |
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They (Path and RendeR) should both switch votes from elsewhere to the other one. And then it will be interesting to see who else moves, and why, given a tie = no lynch. |
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09-10-2007, 08:59 PM | #1340 | |
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Well, the goal is to get a wolf and I don't think you are going to move a group to go after Crim today. So there is a principle vs practical at play here ... |
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09-10-2007, 08:59 PM | #1341 | |
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Not necessarily. But if you're sitting here watching someone die, when we all know you could have prevented it, you have to bear as much responsibility as someone who voted for one of the big two. It's essentially a non-vote -- which is not necessarily bad, but it is what it is. |
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09-10-2007, 09:00 PM | #1342 |
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I don't think you have to dig. Here is what I've said: Crim pushed HARD for Mr. Bug two nights in a row, what turned out to be a bad lynch. St. Cronin actually defended Crim, which has also made me suspicious of both. Finally, the Chief Rum and St. Cronin discussion bugged me. I originally put it on St. Cronin but there is doubt creeping in on the other side as well. IF RendeR is a wolf, his kill of Barkeep is really a ballsy play that paid off for a long time but I don't think I buy it. Or he's very clever and I am very dense. |
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You know what, maybe I will let you guys dictate then and I'll bail on my Crim vote.
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09-10-2007, 09:03 PM | #1344 | |
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Do you really find yourself in a position where you're unable to choose which is more likely of the two to be a wolf? If we're talking a coin flip, I'd sit back and see what happens, but if you've got a worse read on one of them, you might as well vote it. But it's a tough call to make. |
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09-10-2007, 09:05 PM | #1346 | |
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Very quick vote for Neon to start Day 2. Do you see this as a vet move or a rookie move? Guess that is open to interpretation. Quote:
OK, that would be a new one for a wolf for me - "can I vote for myself instead of putting it on someone else"? Bizarre in the extreme - does this scream wolf to you? I'm sure there are other posts, but I'm trying to get stuff up there for discussion. I'll keep looking for another ten minutes or so. |
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09-10-2007, 09:11 PM | #1348 | |
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I agree, but I think a no vote at this point would be bad for us as villagers. At this point purduebrads vote is wasted, it doesn't make sense for one of us who has voted for one of the top 2 vote getters. Part of being a villager is doing what is best for the village even if its not what youd really like to do. If he leaves his vote and we end up with a no vote, he and the others that didnt vote for one of the top 2 will definitely have my suspicion tomorrow. |
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09-10-2007, 09:11 PM | #1349 |
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No, I don't feel threatened or even really patronized. I guess I'm curious at the suddenness of this as I've been on Crim all day. I understand I'm not swinging anybody or honestly trying that hard, but all that is going to happen is if I move, it'll look bad.
We get a bad lynch, I must be a wolf We get a good lynch, I must have moved my vote to conceal being a wolf Right now, the two people I seem to trust the most voted for me twice (Eaglefan) and one of that I've not spoken to at all (Olliegirl). Hoops, you've slipped a bit because I'm not sure where to place you in all this. |
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Alright, Olliegirl, only because you are high on my list and everyone else is on this as well:
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