Werewolf XXXI: House of Frankenstein (Game Over)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

which is who? molson, swaggs, cr?

the only good that came of the path/anxiety kill is neither seemed to be masons so we at least still have them out there.

That message was aimed at Anxiety. I was behind the time and didn't know he was dead when I posted that.

[saldana]

Cronin is trying to break my record

[SnDvls]

okay let's play a game.

if you were a mason and the following two players were tied at the end of the day who would you pick to lynch?

Swaggs vs Molson

barkeep vs tanglewood

bullettspongs vs Cheif Rum

Farah vs Torgo

[Barkeep49]

To be honest I'm not sure who the most obvious person is today.

If we don't hit a bad guy today, I think the masons should reveal tomorrow. But we still have some wiggle room, I think.

[hoopsguy]

Are we sure Saldana is not running this game?

[Barkeep49]

How'd you make those match ups sndvls?

[SnDvls]

since I posted it I'll start

Molson, but only by a small margin

tangle

bullett

toss up

[molson]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

If we don't hit a bad guy today, I think the masons should reveal tomorrow. But we still have some wiggle room, I think.

The Mason's can't reveal, I don't think...But I do think its time to force ties and give them a chance to be effective.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by molson

The Mason's can't reveal, I don't think...But I do think its time to force ties and give them a chance to be effective.

My bad. You are correct.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

How'd you make those match ups sndvls?

random from a list of players who I think are most likely to be voted for next.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Okay, this is gonna sound wild but for some reason, I think one of our wolves has red fur, here's why: I suspected Farrah on night #3, but I wanted to gather a little evidence before I said anything.

Look at the way she voted and her reasons for every single one:

- Day 1 she voted for saldana because he “suckered her into the game” - Day 1 vote but okay, it's throwaway vote.

- Day 2 she voted for Schmidty because “redheads can't be trusted”, why would she vote for someone no one would vote for unless she didn't wanna be suspected?

- Day 3 she rushed to vote for Lathum because “things at work have been hectic”, not enough reason IMO. Besides, Lathum was almost a lock and she knew it, that's why she hid behind the majority of votes.

- Day 4, this is the ONLY time I have seen Farrah give an explanation for her vote, but again, like Lathum the night before, it's a pile-on and no one would suspect.

Farrah is very vocal, but for some reason, she's been really quiet here so as to fly under the radar IMO. Think about it, she was viewing the thread when bullet asked her opinion, and she didn't give any. Is it because she was afraid of saying the wrong thing?

The thing that REALLY stuck out at me was when she quoted GoldenEagle and said thanks Lathum. Was it because she was thinking about swapping Blade for Lathum in the event the votes turned (see post 733)? She obviously voted for Lathum because “it was crazy at work”. Lathum mentioned on post 867 that she put a huge target on her back... now I see why.

It sounds absolutely nuts, but she seems very, very suspicious to me right now. Farrah's a smart cookie and I wouldn't put it past her. Farrah has an answer to everything, how come she's hasn't responded? I kinda threw something out there quoting her "readheads can't be trusted" post and was expecting some kind of smart aleck response (as Farrah usually has).

Am I reading too much into small things?

You know the guys in this game are so hoping for a cat fight right now.

I think you're reading too much into things. I've been quiet because I'm trying to get a hold on how to play.I don't usually play games like this, so I'm trying to take it slow.

This thread adds three or four pages everytime I log in so I spend most of my time trying to catch up. I skip a lot of posts. Honestly didn't see bullet's post asking for my opinion. If it's still wanted now, I'm really stumped. I thought for sure Blade was a wolf.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Are we sure Saldana is not running this game?

LOL...i beat you by 1 minute!!!!

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

okay let's play a game.

if you were a mason and the following two players were tied at the end of the day who would you pick to lynch?

Swaggs vs Molson

barkeep vs tanglewood

bullettspongs vs Cheif Rum

Farah vs Torgo

Ok going off that list:
I chose Molson to lynch. I like his candadicy yesterday and like it more today as evidenced by my vote.

I would chosoe tangle (duh)

Cheif Rum, since you've got to give Blade the benefit of the doubt

No opinion about Farah or Torgo, really which is suprising considering how many posts Daddy has made.

[Barkeep49]

Dodger, I don't think you're picking on too small of things at all. There's defintely some food for thought there.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Chick fight! Chick fight!

See, I was right!!

[SnDvls]

okay let's mix them up a little then

CR vs Molson

Swaggs vs tanglewood

bullettsponge vs Torgo

GoldenEagle vs Greyfroo (or however his name is)

[SnDvls]

dola,

oops

gram vs greyroofoo

my bad

[SnDvls]

anyone else is free to give an opinon..it will help clear you if you are truly a villager.

[SnDvls]

dola,

I strongly suggest you do them if your name is in my "pick" side too

[molson]

CR v. Molson - CR, though I do suspect Molson is playing a hidden "dumb villager" role

Swaggs v. tanglewood - Swaggs

bullettsponge v. togo - Togo

Gram v. Greyroofoo - Greyroo

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

dola,

oops

gram vs greyroofoo

my bad

i'd pick gram

[molson]

Edit - I meant I'm suspicious of bullet over Togo.

Although all my pics were off the top of my head, as I'm back to the drawing board until I look back.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

okay let's mix them up a little then

CR vs Molson

Swaggs vs tanglewood

bullettsponge vs Torgo

GoldenEagle vs Greyfroo (or however his name is)

It's just guesswork, really. I'm not sure it means anything.

I would pick molson, of course.

Swaggs because he's too good to be this quiet.

bulletsponge because he's been kinda in and out, but I know he's a vet, too.

And I would pick Greyroofoo because he GE is dead. Oh, you switched it to Gram. Well, greyroofoo has been too quiet to be a bad guy--all of them seem to be doing stuff in this game, and he has been alrgely absent, I think. So I would go with Gram.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

i'd pick gram

lol, right after I said I hadn't seen much from you.

Well, I still would go with Gram over greyroofoo--Gram has gunned too hard for people at times in this game, I think.

[Farrah Whitworth-Rahn]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

okay let's mix them up a little then

CR vs Molson

Swaggs vs tanglewood

bullettsponge vs Torgo

GoldenEagle vs Greyfroo (or however his name is)

Molson

Toss up on the next two choices.

Gram

[Swaggs]

Alright... I have had a real long, bad day and spent a good chunk of it in the ER with my wife (who has been very ill the past few days), so sorry if I have not been participating too much.

Here is where my suspect list begins:

SnDvls. Why?

11 - Blade - Chief Rum, Barkeep, DaddyTorgo, tanglewood, molson, farrah, Grammaticus, Dodgerchick, Bulletsponge, Swaggs, greyroofoo
4 - Molson - SnDvls, Blade, path12, Anxiety

Would all of the wolves vote together in a runaway vote? Possible, but not likely when they have an easy opportunity to "vary" their voting patters in a runaway vote. Of the 4 people who voted for Molson, three of them are dead right now and none were wolves (or doctors or vampires). This does not clear Molson, in any way, as the vote was never really in question. But I cannot overlook the opportunity that the wolves probably took advantage of by breaking up their votes. They probably did not expect the Dracula kill to leave SnDvls alone here, however. It is also strange that he is calling on the masons to vote together, when it is obvious that they did last night.

More to come, but I need to gather some info first.

[st.cronin]

Swaggs, I hope your wife gets better.

[Abe Sargent]

me too Swaggs

[Chief Rum]

Ouch, Swaggs, so sorry to hear this. I hope your wife will be back to full health soon.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Alright... I have had a real long, bad day and spent a good chunk of it in the ER with my wife (who has been very ill the past few days), so sorry if I have not been participating too much.

Here is where my suspect list begins:

SnDvls. Why?



Would all of the wolves vote together in a runaway vote? Possible, but not likely when they have an easy opportunity to "vary" their voting patters in a runaway vote. Of the 4 people who voted for Molson, three of them are dead right now and none were wolves (or doctors or vampires). This does not clear Molson, in any way, as the vote was never really in question. But I cannot overlook the opportunity that the wolves probably took advantage of by breaking up their votes. They probably did not expect the Dracula kill to leave SnDvls alone here, however. It is also strange that he is calling on the masons to vote together, when it is obvious that they did last night.

More to come, but I need to gather some info first.

I'm onto SnDvls too

[Grammaticus]

Dola,

it has been itching at me all day, but I really felt the Blade trail had to be travelled first.

Sorry Blade

[Grammaticus]

Double dola,

Path, I had to use trail just to suit you

[path12]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

One question Barkeep needs to answer is how is a great player like him leading the charge against Blade?

-Anxiety

I still say Barkeep is good. He's not the one.

[DaddyTorgo]

Goddamm. Blade was a villager? We've all been fucked by the wolves and we're turning on in ourselves.

Honestly I'm not going to rundown SnDvls lists and say who I'd vote for off them, but I'm thinking something along the following lines:

Chief Rum (hey...i promised Blade)
molson (something just rubs me wrong)
SnDvls
Anxiety
Farrah (i don't buy her excuse)

SnDvls and Anxiety for the reasons that Anxiety had in his post...he was right about SnDvls, but that doesn't clear him from suspiscion, especially baring in mind Blade's closing words about how Anxiety has played a perfect game so far and we need to look closer at him!

[path12]

Wait a minute, am I dead? Fuck.

[Swaggs]

Now, my next group of suspects are speculation, but this is one of my "veteran" tips that I am giving away. I always look for folks that feign surprise or shock right after something eventful happens. I have been guilty of it in the past, early on, when I was playing for the other side, but I have noticed a few people doing it in this game.

Tonight's:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

what! ohh crap

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Ugh

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

DAMMIT

I'm not sure who all was around after the night action (I know DC was), but none were verbally shocked by its events. To me, it was a little more shocking to see two of the people that voted for Molson go down. This leads me to believe that Molson could be Dracula (since the wolves and Dracula cannot communicate, but both killed from the pool of people that voted for Molson), but that is, of course, just speculation on my part.


Last Night's:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

fudge on a stick! frankenstiens monster. i so bet blade is the evil dr now, he used both his ace cards because he knew he wouldnt live past tomorow to use the monster

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Sheesh, is that three villagers dead in an hour?

Just to be certain, though--did that night action say either Fouts or GE were villagers? Or is it assumed since the action didn't say otherwise?

So, bulletsponge does the immediate surprise reaction two nights in a row. Why? I know I was not shocked and awed when, the past two nights, a human was lynched, but that is because we had no real, firm evidence (from a witness or seer) that we were killing a wolf. It was a best guess, so it really was not that surprising... unless you really want to make it seem like you are surprised.

My top three suspects right now (and there should be at least one other) are:
1. SnDvls
2. bulletsponge
3. molson

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Goddamm. Blade was a villager? We've all been fucked by the wolves and we're turning on in ourselves.

Honestly I'm not going to rundown SnDvls lists and say who I'd vote for off them, but I'm thinking something along the following lines:

Chief Rum (hey...i promised Blade)
molson (something just rubs me wrong)
SnDvls
Anxiety
Farrah (i don't buy her excuse)

SnDvls and Anxiety for the reasons that Anxiety had in his post...he was right about SnDvls, but that doesn't clear him from suspiscion, especially baring in mind Blade's closing words about how Anxiety has played a perfect game so far and we need to look closer at him!

Anxiety is dead.

[Swaggs]

Thanks guys. I appreciate the well wishes.

She is finally resting after one pretty bad and one terrible night, so hopefully she can start to feel a little bit better once she can get some good rest in.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Now, my next group of suspects are speculation, but this is one of my "veteran" tips that I am giving away. I always look for folks that feign surprise or shock right after something eventful happens. I have been guilty of it in the past, early on, when I was playing for the other side, but I have noticed a few people doing it in this game.

Tonight's:






I'm not sure who all was around after the night action (I know DC was), but none were verbally shocked by its events. To me, it was a little more shocking to see two of the people that voted for Molson go down. This leads me to believe that Molson could be Dracula (since the wolves and Dracula cannot communicate, but both killed from the pool of people that voted for Molson), but that is, of course, just speculation on my part.


Last Night's:




So, bulletsponge does the immediate surprise reaction two nights in a row. Why? I know I was not shocked and awed when, the past two nights, a human was lynched, but that is because we had no real, firm evidence (from a witness or seer) that we were killing a wolf. It was a best guess, so it really was not that surprising... unless you really want to make it seem like you are surprised.

My top three suspects right now (and there should be at least one other) are:
1. SnDvls
2. bulletsponge
3. molson

we will disagree on #1, but itsn't it funny we both have molson on our list...maybe we're finally onto someone.

I'll put it out now just like I did yesterday.

vote molson

with at least 3 to 4 people pointing at him if we're wrong with him I feel we've lost anyhow as we really don't have anywhere else to go then IMO.

[Grammaticus]

FWIW

My response to Blade's alignment was neither shock nor real surprise. It was anger and frustration. I am not happy that we have missed from the go. I am po'd that the villagers have no real specialty roles, it feels like the game was stacked from the start and I have been trying not to bring that into the game. But, by now we should have freakin hit a wolf by pure chance.

[DaddyTorgo]

damm...i missed that we lost blade AND path AND anxiety, i thought we had just lost blade and path.

well, that narrows things down then.

ChiefRum, SnDvls and molson

I think I might hafta vote CR at this point, as my promise to the dead blade

[saldana]

all the best to your wife swaggs.

[DaddyTorgo]

molson over CR?

Didn't Blade (who ended up being good) point us towards CR? Odds may be that BOTH of them are evil at this point though, as we're rapidly running out of time.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll be around for vote tomorrow (i work 7-4) so I'll hold off on voting now, but I'll say right now that I would like to see us drag CR or molson off to be lynched. I don't have a huge preference for one over the other, odds are getting greater that both may be bad anyways.

[path12]

Swaggs, add my name to the well-wishers list.

Get them wolves, people.

I'm pissed that I'm dead.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Would all of the wolves vote together in a runaway vote? Possible, but not likely when they have an easy opportunity to "vary" their voting patters in a runaway vote. Of the 4 people who voted for Molson, three of them are dead right now and none were wolves (or doctors or vampires). This does not clear Molson, in any way, as the vote was never really in question. But I cannot overlook the opportunity that the wolves probably took advantage of by breaking up their votes. They probably did not expect the Dracula kill to leave SnDvls alone here, however. It is also strange that he is calling on the masons to vote together, when it is obvious that they did last night.

More to come, but I need to gather some info first.

Very good point. I've expressed my own suspicions of sndvls earlier (and almost forced a three way tie when I voted for him)

But for what its worth, I wasn't calling for the masons to vote together. I just thought it was a potentially huge break that not one has been hit, and that its time for us to try to utilize them.

And I hope the wife's doing better tomorrow.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

molson over CR?

Didn't Blade (who ended up being good) point us towards CR? Odds may be that BOTH of them are evil at this point though, as we're rapidly running out of time.

Blade had no special insight. We'll never hear the end of it, if he's right, but I see no particular crediblity he's gained in death on the matter of CR's guilt/innocence.

[SnDvls]

the masons know who eachother are per the rules, but can't say anything.

if BK, I, Torgo, Swaggs and Gram all have molson on our list of baddies it speaks loudly to me that he isn't a mason...and is as strong of a canidate to be bad in my book.

[st.cronin]

To the dead bodies in the thread: Anybody wanting the "inside view" just pm me and I'll be happy to share.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Blade had no special insight. We'll never hear the end of it, if he's right, but I see no particular crediblity he's gained in death on the matter of CR's guilt/innocence.

true. but to this point i don't see a lot differentiating one from the other. that will change by tomorrow night i'm sure.

let's not forget the redhead either