2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread

[Warhammer]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

I never thought I would share a message board with the person who wrote the script for "Reefer Madness".


Booze causes more deaths in a single day than weed causes in 100 years.

Only because they can't find their car keys.

[Lathum]

Stay classy Darington Hobson

''They played the best game of their life tonight,'' Hobson said. ''They're not even that good. They just played a good game tonight. We weren't ready, and they beat us.''

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Anyone know where the times for Thursdays games are listed?

They won't announce them until all of the games are set and TV can have a look at how they want to arrange them.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by digamma

They won't announce them until all of the games are set and TV can have a look at how they want to arrange them.

Kind of figured, someone had something on Facebook about a time for next week but figured they were full of shit.

[jbergey22]

2 key things in the Mizzou/West Virginia game would scare me if I were a Mizzou fan.

West Virginia Offense Rebounding % 41.9(2)
Mizzou Offensive Rebounding allowed % 37.7(329)

West Virginia To's % 18.1(56)

West Virginia is going to control the glass and they are well above average at not turning the ball over.

I'm taking Syracuse -6.5 and West Virginia -6 today in hopes that the Big East riff raff has cleared themselves out.

[whomario]

Go Gonzaga ! Syracuse is playing tons of zone, right ? Bouldin has to have a big game and Harris hit from outside as well.


Well, that´s another way to score against the zone by Harris there

[Lathum]

I love Cornell getting 4.5 today, I don't see Wisconsin having an answer for their inside game.

[mauchow]

I wouldn't touch the Badger/Cornell game today at all. I see the Badgers winning 10+ but I could also see them struggle and it could go down to the wire. Kenpom has the Badgers winning by 8. FWIW

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by whomario

Go Gonzaga ! Syracuse is playing tons of zone, right ? Bouldin has to have a big game and Harris hit from outside as well.

Go Zags as well

Then again, at this point, I'd like to see as much chaos as possible so of course, we're going to see chalk all afternoon

And then the second weekend, Cinderella rarely has much of a chance

SI

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I wouldn't touch the Badger/Cornell game today at all. I see the Badgers winning 10+ but I could also see them struggle and it could go down to the wire. Kenpom has the Badgers winning by 8. FWIW

I agree. They are the media darlings so everyone is taking them. Like you said all of the numbers have Wisconsin dominating.

[whomario]

Man, Elias with a great agressive game so far Bouldin needs to get involved though for them to maintain the pressure on Syracuse´s zone and not let them sink in on the catch all the time.

[molson]

Syracuse is terrifyingly lacking in depth without Onuaku. Sutherland and Riley are painful to watch when they have to sit Jackson down with foul trouble. This game is a pick 'em.

Edit: Though it's great to see this run with Jackson the bench.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

2 key things in the Mizzou/West Virginia game would scare me if I were a Mizzou fan.

West Virginia Offense Rebounding % 41.9(2)
Mizzou Offensive Rebounding allowed % 37.7(329)

West Virginia To's % 18.1(56)

West Virginia is going to control the glass and they are well above average at not turning the ball over.

I'm taking Syracuse -6.5 and West Virginia -6 today in hopes that the Big East riff raff has cleared themselves out.

WVU will give up their turnovers. You're somewhat pointing out both ends of what Mizzou looks for in a success formula. Add the margin in the turnover department to the margin in the rebounding department. If Mizzou comes out positive in that calculation, they have an extremely high winning percentage. If they come out on the losing end of that formula, they're a below .500 team.

[kingfc22]

Zags look awful against this zone and they can't stop Cuse on defense either.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by molson

Syracuse is terrifyingly lacking in depth without Onuaku. Sutherland and Riley are painful to watch when they have to sit Jackson down with foul trouble. This game is a pick 'em.

Edit: Though it's great to see this run with Jackson the bench.

Even with the cuse 16 point lead is it a pick'em?

[mauchow]

Oh, crap! I thought this game started at noon.. what a bunch of crap!!

Oh, well. Doesn't look close so I guess that's okay.

[hoopsguy]

Had a couple of thoughts while watching that first half:

1.) Was reminded that Harris is really good. Way smarter player than you would expect from a freshman and he shows you more athleticism than expected about once/half. I'm wondering if there is any draft buzz around him?
2.) Gonzaga really seemed intent on pushing the ball inside against the depleted 'Cuse front line, but that seemed to take their perimeter guys out of the game. Or else their perimeter guys just stunk ... take your pick.
3.) Syracuse's offense really started running a ton better when Jardine came into the game. Before that, it felt like everyone besides Johnson was pretty much standing around.

[whomario]

yep, looks like Harris is the only one having any clue how to play/move against the zone working that baseline. Sacre keeps posting up directly in front of the play which makes it virtually impossible to pass him the ball, Gray seems to have no clue what to do in general, Bouldin fails to get open, Goodson simply can´t shoot (4 made threes all season as a starting guard)

Syracuse just look solid, moving the ball, hitting shots and Johnson is awesome.

[molson]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Even with the cuse 16 point lead is it a pick'em?

Not anymore.....

I'm been pessimistic about Syracuse all year and they keep surprising me.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Had a couple of thoughts while watching that first half:

1.) Was reminded that Harris is really good. Way smarter player than you would expect from a freshman and he shows you more athleticism than expected about once/half. I'm wondering if there is any draft buzz around him?

consensus is that he´s a sure first rounder and could propably go around 15-20 this year if he came out, hasn´t said anything about that subject though.
Question marks are that he´s "old" for a freshman (20 allready) and doesn´t have a definitive position in the NBA, but his jump shot got a lot better from last year and even as the year went on, so he might just make the transition to being a 3 that can play some 4 against smaller teams.

Hasn´t played on a high level in Germany but in the 3rd division last year as he planned to go to College all along, had to go out of his way to stay eligible seeing as the NCAA still hasn´t gotten over their stupidity in that area ...
Did get noticed by german national team coach though and played in last years european championship. Not a ton, but valuable experience i´m sure.

[whomario]

boy, Rautins can gun it

[Mike1409]

Why when there are 8 games today in 3 timed starts do they have only 1 game start at noon?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Mike1409

Why when there are 8 games today in 3 timed starts do they have only 1 game start at noon?

Lots of people still in church.

[B & B]

Hate the scheduling.


This 1 / 4 / 3 format is bullshit.

I will have all the games on, plus a TV on Bristol, and another on the Transitions final round, but theres no need to force half the games on at one point during an 8 game slate.

Also hate the NFL when they schedule 10 1pm games and 3 4pm ones.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I love Cornell getting 4.5 today, I don't see Wisconsin having an answer for their inside game.

I like Cornell as well in this game.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

WVU will give up their turnovers. You're somewhat pointing out both ends of what Mizzou looks for in a success formula. Add the margin in the turnover department to the margin in the rebounding department. If Mizzou comes out positive in that calculation, they have an extremely high winning percentage. If they come out on the losing end of that formula, they're a below .500 team.

Huggins seemed pretty confident about his team's ability to handle Missouri's pressure in his interview earlier this week. It was a local radio show so they were asking him questions on how the Mountaineers would theoretically handle Missouri. Normally Huggins is a straight shooter so I could definitely see WVU getting some open looks from good passing. And if MU can't get easy baskets on turnovers then they will be in trouble.

I still like MU in this one. I haven't seen how WVU handles the pressure so until I do I'm going to stick with the known commodity in MU. Should be a good game.

[Mike1409]

Originally Posted by B & B

Hate the scheduling.

Also hate the NFL when they schedule 10 1pm games and 3 4pm ones.

+1

[B & B]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

I like Cornell as well in this game.

I get scared when 2/3rds or more of the ppl like the Ivy underdog.

Cornell, A+M, and Puke are the most popular teams on the board today.

[Karlifornia]

lol@ Syracuse fans going nuts over a simple foul call up 25 with 6 minutes to go. It almost makes me feel pathetic by proxy.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

Huggins seemed pretty confident about his team's ability to handle Missouri's pressure in his interview earlier this week. It was a local radio show so they were asking him questions on how the Mountaineers would theoretically handle Missouri. Normally Huggins is a straight shooter so I could definitely see WVU getting some open looks from good passing. And if MU can't get easy baskets on turnovers then they will be in trouble.

I still like MU in this one. I haven't seen how WVU handles the pressure so until I do I'm going to stick with the known commodity in MU. Should be a good game.

I'm sure Missouri will get their share of turnovers (particularly early on, in my opinion) but I think the thing to watch will be during the times when WVU breaks the press, whether or not they set up in the half court offense or if they try to get quick/cheap baskets. They aren't a great transition team and don't want a high scoring game, so I imagine they would prefer to set up and dictate the flow a little bit.

We've done a little of each against the pressing teams that we have played (Off the top of my head Louisville, Villanova, and Cleveland State come to mind) and it really depends on whether or not we are smart after breaking the press or if we fly in out of control to the basket against their safety or chuck up semi-open threes (we are not a good outside shooting team outside of Butler and Mitchell).

[terpkristin]

Well, before this game gets too far underway, I want to say that Maryland has had a good run. This season turned out significantly better than I thought it would. If we go on, I'll be stoked, but I'm really not counting on it.

/tk

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm sure Missouri will get their share of turnovers (particularly early on, in my opinion) but I think the thing to watch will be during the times when WVU breaks the press, whether or not they set up in the half court offense or if they try to get quick/cheap baskets. They aren't a great transition team and don't want a high scoring game, so I imagine they would prefer to set up and dictate the flow a little bit.

And hopefully Mizzou can bait them into taking the quick shots. Mizzou will let you take the long quick shot all day long, much like we saw with Clemson. The key is that you better make it.

Hopefully this'll be a good one.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

REALLY wide spread by WVU. Huggy's looking to isolate and back cut.

[terpkristin]

Alright, Maryland, I know I said I'd understand if you didn't move on, but don't freaking embarrass yourself.

/tk

[JonInMiddleGA]

{shakes head} GT shooting 50% from the floor, tOSU is cold ... and the lead was just two points late in the first half, with four players with two fouls each.

[mauchow]

Jeez, the Badgers need to uh, play a little better...

[SackAttack]

So, uh, I have West Virginia winning this game in my bracket, and advancing all the way to the Elite Eight.

I'm willing to let my bracket bleed a little more by being wrong there.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Coach Anderson really has to like the pace of play thus far. Really surprised how easily Mizzou is getting into transition.

[jbergey22]

Not often you will see a Ivy team with an advantage physically over a Big Ten team but at this point Im not sure so Cornell isnt a more physcial team.

I believe Wisconsin is in trouble.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Small children should not be exposed to the Gt-tOSU matchup.

[JonInMiddleGA]

#$%Q#$% Hewitt

[terpkristin]

Terps shooting 38% a little more than halfway into the first half.
Disgusting.

/tk

[terpkristin]

Michigan St is doing their part in turning the ball over, Maryland's not doing their job and capitalizing on said turnovers.

/tk

[mauchow]

Cornell making everything so far... Leuer singlehandidly keeping the badgers in it.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Cornell making everything so far... Leuer singlehandidly keeping the badgers in it.

The fact that Cornell is getting offensive rebounds is the most disturbing part for me.

[Swaggs]

Refs are letting them play -- I'm not sure who that will benefit down the road. I think Butler has been hit a couple of times (one on the drive and it looked like the Missouri guy high fived him on the partially blocked three), but I think that charge we drew was pretty questionable, too. Hopefully, it won't be like the Big East tourney games where they let them play for 30-minutes and then started calling everything.

Pretty intense and fun game, early on though. I'm encouraged that Truck was able to give 7-8 pretty good minutes against the press to begin with. There is no doubt that Mazzulla will be playing point down the stretch.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

The fact that Cornell is getting offensive rebounds is the most disturbing part for me.

Considering the defensive rebounding effeciency that the badgers usually grab, no shit scary as hell.

It will stop soon though.. I think

[Schmidty]

This is MSU's game for the taking. They better not let another team back into a game they're totally contolling.

[Schmidty]

Great. Now Lucas is hurt.

[terpkristin]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Great. Now Lucas is hurt.

As much as I want the Terps to win, I hope he's ok. Ankles suck.

/tk