Lakers vs Magic and the 2008-2009 NBA Playoffs/Finals Thread - Page 26

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Yup. That's exactly one of the main jobs of the refs out there.

You somehow disagree?

Another infamous Howard elbow caught Z in the face, he was pissed, ready to retaliate. Varajev got away with a charge on the other end, Orlando gets pissed and starts getting pushy. Then Howard comes back, Varajev hangs on him like a 3 year old that doesn't want to let go of daddy, but Howard finishes.

Howard turns around and screams in Varajev's face.

It's not hard to see where this can easily go next.

Again, this is the refs jobs. You can not like it all you want, but if you want, "no blood, no foul" go to the playground.

Again, what were they preventing? They did not prevent the elbow, they did not prevent Z from retaliating (He did that on his own), they did not control Varejao's play. Finally, they called the foul on Varejao when he committed it? The refs anticipated a problem instead of calling the problem as they saw it. To me, that is where you have a problem

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 10:05 PM

Uh oh another elbow. There should be a T coming

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:08 PM

This series is fantastic

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

This round is fantastic

Fixed.

My interest in the NBA has diminished a lot in favor of the NCAA game the last few years, but this round has really drawn me back into the NBA.

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Fixed.

My interest in the NBA has diminished a lot in favor of the NCAA game the last few years, but this round has really drawn me back into the NBA.

Much Agreed

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 05-26-2009, 10:15 PM

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:15 PM

I can see the cavs getting 2 and then OT.

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 10:15 PM

Interesting screen by Howard.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:16 PM

Someone's been reading this thread...

"You're telling me Stan Van Gundy's not a great coach? What a play!"

haha

henry296 · 05-26-2009, 10:17 PM

That looked like a heave from Lewis when he had much more time. He was so lucky it went in.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:18 PM

David Stern must have called down during that timeout.

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 10:18 PM

I don't know why the Magic is upset. That was the best play

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 10:18 PM

Call the 20 Stan

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:19 PM

He will miss it so the talking heads have something to talk about in the morning.

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:19 PM

Wow. Thank goodness I was wrong.

RainMaker · 05-26-2009, 10:19 PM

LOL at that being a foul.

Jas_lov · 05-26-2009, 10:19 PM

Doug Collins is an idiot. "What a great play! SVG is a genius!" Lewis did a 360 and chucked up a luckbox 3, yeah what a genius.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

He will miss it so the talking heads have something to talk about in the morning.

I had my, "somewhere Gilbert Arenas is laughing his ass off" line ready.

Didn't get to use it though.

Lathum · 05-26-2009, 10:20 PM

The Magic are lucky that went in. Varejo was right there to tip it in if it missed

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Doug Collins is an idiot. "What a great play! SVG is a genius!" Lewis did a 360 and chucked up a luckbox 3, yeah what a genius.

yy - great UIC there.

MrBug708 · 05-26-2009, 10:20 PM

While Im surprised that the foul was called, I really shouldn't be

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The Magic are lucky that went in. Varejo was right there to tip it in if it missed

I have no idea how the Magic allowed him to get that position - no excuse for that.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

How was that not a foul on howard?

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

HORRIBLE no call.

just wow.

MrBug708 · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

Poor Dwight Howard

RainMaker · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

LOL at that not being a foul.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

How was that not a foul on howard?

On Howard? Really?

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:21 PM

Nice no call.

RainMaker · 05-26-2009, 10:22 PM

Those last two plays are why I bet on the Cavs to win the series.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 05-26-2009, 10:22 PM

*shurg*

I didn't think it was a foul.

Atocep · 05-26-2009, 10:22 PM

That was a foul on Howard, if anyone. He did the arm wrap takedown to try and draw a call on Varejao. I give the refs credit, though. Most fall for it.

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

On Howard? Really?

it was quick but it looked like before they were in position Howard grabbed verejao and yanked him. maybe I saw it wrong

Radii · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

if you're going to call a foul on that last play i'd call it on howard too.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

I'm not sure if I'm reading into it too much, but I get the feeling that RainMaker is one of those NBA-conspiracy types.

RainMaker · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

That was a foul on Howard, if anyone. He did the arm wrap takedown to try and draw a call on Varejao. I give the refs credit, though. Most fall for it.

I think it was to keep his balance since he was being pushed out of bounds.

miami_fan · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Nice no call.

I would have preferred a double foul had been called since both players did foul.

Radii · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

dola, but i would rather see the no-call.

kingfc22 · 05-26-2009, 10:23 PM

what a bs foul call there.

wade moore · 05-26-2009, 10:24 PM

Huh.

I felt liek Varjeo clearly fouled him and after time was out Howard came down and grabbed him.

kingfc22 · 05-26-2009, 10:24 PM

Dola. Mike Brown = worst coach ever

Radii · 05-26-2009, 10:25 PM

yeah, watching the replay, if anything howard grabbed varajo's arm and yanked him before the pass was even thrown. That looked like it was *entirely* howard.

RainMaker · 05-26-2009, 10:25 PM

I think the no-call is more glaring since Lebron drew a foul by diving into a player.

BrianD · 05-26-2009, 10:26 PM

I was going to complain about both the last two plays, but after the last replay, I think the no-call was right. Howard pulled Varjeo off-balance to make him foul.

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

yeah, watching the replay, if anything howard grabbed varajo's arm and yanked him before the pass was even thrown. That looked like it was *entirely* howard.

+1

Gary Gorski · 05-26-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Someone's been reading this thread...

"You're telling me Stan Van Gundy's not a great coach? What a play!"

haha

I laughed...then I laughed that once again with the game seconds away from being won SVG sets up a defense to ALLOW the MVP to catch the ball uncontested. Big surprise - Lebron saved the day again. Maybe next time SVG will try to let someone else beat them but I doubt it.

BrianD · 05-26-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think the no-call is more glaring since Lebron drew a foul by diving into a player.

This is reasonable. James did as much to initiate contact as Howard did. Neither should have been called, but calling only one of them is pretty poor.

k0ruptr · 05-26-2009, 10:28 PM

LBJ still needs more help from his teammates

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:28 PM

Howard is hungry.

Noop · 05-26-2009, 10:28 PM

What a BS foul call.

05-26-2009, 10:05 PM	#1252
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Uh oh another elbow. There should be a T coming __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

05-26-2009, 10:15 PM	#1256
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Wow. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

05-26-2009, 10:15 PM	#1258
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Interesting screen by Howard. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

05-26-2009, 10:17 PM	#1260
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	That looked like a heave from Lewis when he had much more time. He was so lucky it went in. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

05-26-2009, 10:18 PM	#1262
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I don't know why the Magic is upset. That was the best play __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

05-26-2009, 10:08 PM	#1253
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	This series is fantastic

05-26-2009, 10:15 PM	#1257
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	I can see the cavs getting 2 and then OT.

05-26-2009, 10:18 PM	#1263
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Call the 20 Stan __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

05-26-2009, 10:19 PM	#1264
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	He will miss it so the talking heads have something to talk about in the morning. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-26-2009, 10:19 PM	#1265
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Wow. Thank goodness I was wrong. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-26-2009, 10:19 PM	#1266
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	LOL at that being a foul.

05-26-2009, 10:19 PM	#1267
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Doug Collins is an idiot. "What a great play! SVG is a genius!" Lewis did a 360 and chucked up a luckbox 3, yeah what a genius.

05-26-2009, 10:20 PM	#1269
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	The Magic are lucky that went in. Varejo was right there to tip it in if it missed

05-26-2009, 10:20 PM	#1271
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	While Im surprised that the foul was called, I really shouldn't be

05-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#1274
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	How was that not a foul on howard?

05-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#1276
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Poor Dwight Howard

05-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#1277
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	LOL at that not being a foul.

05-26-2009, 10:21 PM	#1279
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Nice no call. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-26-2009, 10:22 PM	#1280
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Those last two plays are why I bet on the Cavs to win the series.

05-26-2009, 10:22 PM	#1281
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	shurg I didn't think it was a foul. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

05-26-2009, 10:22 PM	#1282
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	That was a foul on Howard, if anyone. He did the arm wrap takedown to try and draw a call on Varejao. I give the refs credit, though. Most fall for it.

05-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#1284
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	if you're going to call a foul on that last play i'd call it on howard too.

05-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#1285
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I'm not sure if I'm reading into it too much, but I get the feeling that RainMaker is one of those NBA-conspiracy types. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

05-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#1288
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	dola, but i would rather see the no-call.

05-26-2009, 10:23 PM	#1289
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	what a bs foul call there. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-26-2009, 10:24 PM	#1291
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Dola. Mike Brown = worst coach ever __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 05-26-2009 at 10:25 PM.

05-26-2009, 10:25 PM	#1292
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	yeah, watching the replay, if anything howard grabbed varajo's arm and yanked him before the pass was even thrown. That looked like it was entirely howard.

05-26-2009, 10:25 PM	#1293
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I think the no-call is more glaring since Lebron drew a foul by diving into a player.

05-26-2009, 10:26 PM	#1294
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I was going to complain about both the last two plays, but after the last replay, I think the no-call was right. Howard pulled Varjeo off-balance to make him foul.

05-26-2009, 10:28 PM	#1298
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	LBJ still needs more help from his teammates

05-26-2009, 10:28 PM	#1299
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Howard is hungry. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-26-2009, 10:28 PM	#1300
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	What a BS foul call. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

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