Werewolf XXXVIII: Jack The Ripper (GAME OVER! GOOD WINS ON DAY SEVEN)

[Chief Rum]

TWO ISSUES FOR THE CROWD: 1. TOMORROW NIGHT, AND 2. THE WEEKEND.

TOMORROW NIGHT-- I WILL BE WORKING TOMORROW NIGHT AND UNABLE TO DO THE WRITE UP UNTIL I GET HOME (LIKELY 10-11 P.M. PDT). DO YOU ALL WANT TO STILL HAVE THE DEADLINE AT 10 P.M. EST/7 P.M. PDT? IF SO, I WILL NOT COUNT VOTES OR VOTE CHANGES AFTER 7 P.M. TOMORROW NIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO JUST LEAVE IT OPEN TO WHENEVER I GET HOME (ADDING A LITTLE MYSTERY TO IT, I SUPPOSE ), YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DO THAT. IF I DON'T GET A FEEL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, MY DEFAULT IS TO STICK TO THE 10/7 P.M. DEADLINE.

THE WEEKEND-- I AM THINKING OF TWO OPTIONS FOR THE WEEKEND, ASSUMING THE PLAYERS DON'T WANT TO SUSPEND IT ALTOGETHER. HERE THEY ARE:

1. NIGHT 4 ACTIONS DUE BY 10/7 P.M. SATURDAY, DAY 5 ACTIONS DUE BY 10/7 P.M. SUNDAY, RESUME REGULAR SCHEDULE MONDAY MORNING WITH NIGHT 5 ACTIONS. I AM ALSO OPEN TO DROPPING THE SUNDAY DEADLINE TO EARLIER IN THE DAY ON SUNDAY (MAYBE 3-4 HOURS, LET'S SAY), AS I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WORK ON SUNDAY (AND LIKELY, NEITHER DO MOST OF YOU).

2. NIGHT 4 ACTIONS DUE BY SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY MORNING. DAY 5 ACTIONS CONCLUDE AT THEIR NORMAL TIME ON MONDAY NIGHT.

SO ONE PLAYS IT FAST, THE OTHER SLOW. WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK?

[Barkeep49]

I am fine with any and all options for both issues.

[hoopsguy]

Agreed, my weekend schedule is pretty flexible.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm going to be doing things in the evenings this weekend, so I wouldn't mind the slower schedule (assuming I survive this night and tomorrow, of course).

I prefer a known deadline to something floating.

[DaddyTorgo]

my saturday schedule is the same as today. my sunday i am going to the Pats game, so i'll be gone most the day.

[Chief Rum]

One other note. Schmidty has informed me that he may have an iffy Internet connection right now, and may not be able to play this one out. I last heard from him yesterday.

I am going to wait through tonight, but if I don't see him by tomorrow morning, I may need to find a replacement. If any of you know someone interested in joining, let me know.

I will also be posting in the Off Topic forum.

[dubb93]

either way works for me, however I would like to have a set deadline for lynch votes. I think that is always the way to go with deadlines in these games.

[Blade6119]

Id say firm deadlines, and id vote option 1 for timing, though i can do either

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Alan T

For whatever reason my notes said 7 and it was all downhill from there

Sorry Alan, but when that mistake was made i had to run with it. It sucks that it was a mistake of typing, and not a lie, but in my shoes i think you would have done the same. Sorry it ended poorly, but all the errors you kept reporting were too much. See you soon, my time in this game is coming to a close i believe.

[Blade6119]

In case i die tonight, my trust list looks like this:
Hoopsguy
Barkeep
Raiders
Schmidty
Cronin
Mr. W

None of those are 100%, but its what i feel right now.

That leaves as semi trusted:
DaddyTorgo
Bulletsponge
Saldana
Izulde
Path
Dubb

And not trusted:
DC
LSG
Swaggs

[Blade6119]

This may be a bit out of left field, but who has actually visited hoops the prostitute? I dont remember, as i think i remember most others being reported. Im sure im just forgetful, but who can say they paid hoops 5 shillings for some fun? I know other prostitutes say he is one, but thats not what i want to hear right now.

[bulletsponge]

i havnt visited hoops. i went back to Barkeep for the 2nd straight night. i guess he was good

[Blade6119]

And im going to ask something that yall can wait to answer till after night actions if you all want...

Can i get a list of all the prostitutes? Now that jack is dead, you have nothing to fear. But it would help me sort through everyone if i knew who was partaking in the fun and who was giving it.

[Lorena]

Blade, I'd like to know why you don't trust me, I've been nothing but honest.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Blade, I'd like to know why you don't trust me, I've been nothing but honest.

I dont really trust many people in your situation. You claim to be a normal villager, and there is where i am looking right at. My list of people unvouched for is smaller then the required 3 bad guys left. So someone somewhere is getting vouched for that shouldnt be, maybe more..so that leads me to believe that bad guys, or at least one of them, can go to prostitutes and what not. So i no longer trust the customers, and if im not mistaken your one of them.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I dont really trust many people in your situation. You claim to be a normal villager, and there is where i am looking right at. My list of people unvouched for is smaller then the required 3 bad guys left. So someone somewhere is getting vouched for that shouldnt be, maybe more..so that leads me to believe that bad guys, or at least one of them, can go to prostitutes and what not. So i no longer trust the customers, and if im not mistaken your one of them.

So you no longer trust the customers, but yet you ONLY have 3 people on your untrusted list.

Gotcha.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

So you no longer trust the customers, but yet you ONLY have 3 people on your untrusted list.

Gotcha.

The jump from trusted to semi-trusted is a massive one...from semi to not is miniscule..the ones in the semi have just made comments first(dubb, path), made enough to trust about bids(saldana) or been vouched for by people i trust(bullet, Izulde, DT). I dont remember anyone clearing you..sorry DC, knowing me you have to understand im trying to find a reason to trust you. But right now your down there with LSG and swaggs

[st.cronin]

Blade's just throwing his usual shit around. I'm taking a long hard look at him tomorrow.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Blade's just throwing his usual shit around. I'm taking a long hard look at him tomorrow.

Hey jackass, im trying here. Sorry alan turned up good, but he stated repeatedly he screwed up. It was not my fault he messed up, and i was trying to help. What the hell have you done for villagers? Thats what i thought jerk

[st.cronin]

Although, oddly enough, right now I'm coming from a similiar place. I don't trust many people, at all, and fewer than I did yesterday.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Hey jackass, im trying here. Sorry alan turned up good, but he stated repeatedly he screwed up. It was not my fault he messed up, and i was trying to help. What the hell have you done for villagers? Thats what i thought jerk

Settle down, fella. I agree I have been incredibly unhelpful. I blame Chief Rum for making the game too hard.

[Lorena]

Well Izulde pretty much vouched for me:

Originally Posted by Izulde

Lynching DC would be a mistake.

[Blade6119]

Sorry for that outburst everyone, but its comments like that i hate...ill try not to do that again

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Well Izulde pretty much vouched for me:

But Izulde isnt a prostitute, is he? I thought he was a customer...and i dont think your a prostitute either...so unless im mistaken i put no weight into that. If i am mistaken, then im sorry. If hes a prostitute, ill move you to semi-trusted..if you are, and can get other prostitutes to confirm that, ill move you to trusted.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Well Izulde pretty much vouched for me:

The trouble with this is that you are not claiming to be a prostitute, so assuming that the bad guys can visit prostitutes, and likewise assuming that Izulde did not assume that, we can no longer assume you are cleared. Otoh, you know what happens when you assume. So, where does that leave us?

[st.cronin]

No, Blade - the story is that Izulde is a prostitute and DC one of his customers.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

No, Blade - the story is that Izulde is a prostitute and DC one of his customers.

Then why was izulde arrested? Or can none of the other prostitutes clear him?

[Lorena]

Here's me vouching Izulde is a prostitute:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Because she's a prostitute. She was the lady of the night that pleasured me on Night 1, so unless there was some sort of conversion from then until now, I'm going under the assumption that she's good.

Here's my night action:

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I have a little bit of catching up to do, but that Izulde gets around different areas

Night 1 we had a good time in Bishopsgate, Night 2, I went looking for him at Cavell, but he chooses DaddyTorgo instead... curse you Daddy!

I witness Izulde getting jailed along with dubb, bulletsponge and Mr. W.

I go elsewhere to hire another but come back empty handed. Oh well... at least I still have my money.

And DaddyTorgo:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

just got up and saw LSG's post. havn't read the rest of the actions of the night, but i can tell you why izulde got arrested. i was there. Mr. Weds. and dubb and dodgerchick saw me (although I dunno how much of what went down they can confirm). Without quoting my PM...I was going to visit izulde because he's just such an attractive lady and I was hoping he could de-virginize me. unfortunately the cops got there first and they're not a fan of the free market economy.

[DaddyTorgo]

i don't know why izulde was arrested but i certainly hope he was a prostitute, as i had already approached him when he got arrested, and i was out looking for action.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Then why was izulde arrested? Or can none of the other prostitutes clear him?

I still haven't figured that out. I will point out that only DC was willing to think about lynching him, though. Whether that means she's good or bad depends on what you make of Izulde. I'm inclined to think it makes her good, for reasons I outlined earlier in the day.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

The trouble with this is that you are not claiming to be a prostitute, so assuming that the bad guys can visit prostitutes, and likewise assuming that Izulde did not assume that, we can no longer assume you are cleared. Otoh, you know what happens when you assume. So, where does that leave us?

Uh... it makes an ass out of you and me?

I don't have anything else to say other than Fouts and Alan both seemed to have my role and they ended up good, so it's up to everyone's discretion as to where they'd like to go from there.

I know I'm good and I'm providing any info that crosses my path.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Uh... it makes an ass out of you and me?

I don't have anything else to say other than Fouts and Alan both seemed to have my role and they ended up good, so it's up to everyone's discretion as to where they'd like to go from there.

I know I'm good and I'm providing any info that crosses my path.

Can you then provide me a list of your nightly activities?

[Blade6119]

im not trying to interrogate you, your just the only one around right now.

As i speak DT is here though, so id like him to answer the same question

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I still haven't figured that out. I will point out that only DC was willing to think about lynching him, though. Whether that means she's good or bad depends on what you make of Izulde. I'm inclined to think it makes her good, for reasons I outlined earlier in the day.

Yeah, I don't understand why Izulde was arrested, other than maybe she was in the wrong place at the wrong time, she was framed, or maybe converted after I visited her... I dunno.

I mean anything is possible in WW.

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Can you then provide me a list of your nightly activities?

Yeah, no problem.

Night 0 - Stayed home, no PM or nothing. At first I thought about saving my money to hire an urchin but the more I thought about it, the more I figured someone else would outbid me.

Night 1 - I went out to Bishopsgate for some fun and hired Izulde. After a night of passionate love making, she tells me she saw Mr. W passing by. I come home and find out I was robbed.

Night 2 - Went to Cavell to find Izulde but she went with DaddyTorgo instead. I guess my schwang was too much for her. She gets arrested and I watch this with dubb, Mr. W, and bulletsponge.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Yeah, no problem.

Night 0 - Stayed home, no PM or nothing. At first I thought about saving my money to hire an urchin but the more I thought about it, the more I figured someone else would outbid me.

Night 1 - I went out to Bishopsgate for some fun and hired Izulde. After a night of passionate love making, she tells me she saw Mr. W passing by. I come home and find out I was robbed.

Night 2 - Went to Cavell to find Izulde but she went with DaddyTorgo instead. I guess my schwang was too much for her. She gets arrested and I watch this with dubb, Mr. W, and bulletsponge.

And your finances over that time, including the robbery? Im just trying to work through the normal villager role, because i dont have it.

[Lorena]

Don't take this the wrong way blade but I don't feel comfortable disclosing that information. For all I know, there might be hoodlums out there looking for people to rob and if I let it be known, I might be next. Not only that, if I choose to bid for the services of an urchin and people know how much I have, I can be easily outbid, and I wouldn't want that to happen.

[Lorena]

Alright, I"m out for the night.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Don't take this the wrong way blade but I don't feel comfortable disclosing that information. For all I know, there might be hoodlums out there looking for people to rob and if I let it be known, I might be next. Not only that, if I choose to bid for the services of an urchin and people know how much I have, I can be easily outbid, and I wouldn't want that to happen.

Fair enough for now

[Izulde]

Now that I'm let out of jail and Jack's dead, I can tell you that a) I'm a prostitute and b) DC is a normal villager. She's the only client I've gotten any real role info on.

[DaddyTorgo]

Nightly Actions: Night Zero - Nothing (missed the deadline by accident)

Night One- Stayed in at the Inn to build up $

Night Two - We know I was seeking out Izulde for some fun between the sheets, which I unfortunately didn't get.

Okay, I'm off to get some sleep. Won't be around cept for maybe a lil pop-on tomorrow in the late AM and then again tomorrow early evening for someone to summarize the day's events and then on right before lynch again. Stupid work.

[Chief Rum]

Time check

[saldana]

note to everyone....i realize alan came up good, and blade led the charge, but lets not have the normal knee jerk reaction and automatically vote blade today....i love the trap he set, and it was only a combination of alans own mistakes that sprung it on himself...blade didnt do anything deceptive regarding alan, and i still have him very high on my trust list.

[Chief Rum]

Deadline.

Writeup coming.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by saldana

note to everyone....i realize alan came up good, and blade led the charge, but lets not have the normal knee jerk reaction and automatically vote blade today....i love the trap he set, and it was only a combination of alans own mistakes that sprung it on himself...blade didnt do anything deceptive regarding alan, and i still have him very high on my trust list.

Agreed. I'm still looking long and hard at LSG and Swaggs today.

[hoopsguy]

Blade, I have seen Barkeep and SnDvls (dead) as prostitutes and have seen enough supporting information to strongly believe that Izulde is the last onel

I have had two customers - Tyrith on Night 0 and Path on Night 2.

As much as I pushed for Blade (and the nowhere-to-be-seen Schmidty) to reveal information yesterday to help make my decision I'm with Saldana in saying that I want to see how today unfolds instead of automatically gunning for him. I still want to understand the information I saw on Night 2, but I'm hoping we have new and better information to work with as well.

[hoopsguy]

Raiders, given that actions are currently being processed and you are around - would you be able to share how you know that Lathum went after me on Night 1? I would hate for that information to die with you.

If you are pretty sure someone else can tell the story in the event that you end up dead during these night actions then by all means keep it to yourself now ...

[Chief Rum]

The deep London fog has returned, and it blankets the Whitechapel district like a shroud, concealing most everything and making the identity of others hard to discern.

Fog is one of the more fearful times in Whitechapel, because the criminal element tends to come out even more. Screams come in the night, and no one knows who is making them, and is too afraid to find out. This is one of those nights.

Early on in the evening, residents of Commercial hear a loud ruckus and horrible grunting noises. There is a short, high-pitched scream and the sounds of a fight, and then it ends. After some time (when they feel it is safe), a few braver souls venture out, and discover that Schmidty has met his end tonight. The urchin appeared to be out in the street, not far outside LoneStarGirl's home, when he was attacked. The attack was vicious, his small body thrown viciously about and smashed to pieces. Not a bone in his body seems to be unbroken, and he has been twisted into a horrible misfigure. This little orphan boy won't be stealing any more wallets or spying on anyone anymore.

Not long afterwards, a scream rises in the night air in Cavell. But it is not the victim, nay, but a poor Londoner whom has come upon a dead body lying in the street. It is Mr. Wednesday! For once, this victim has not been mutilated, decapitated or gutted. It is clear, though, that he has been backstabbed! Many who go out at night recognize Mr. Wednesday, for he was the night watchman. He must have been on patrol here in Cavell, when the murderous criminal snuck up behind him and stabbed him in the kidneys.

Will the killing never cease?

In Whitechapel, the constables finally seem to have been roused up by all the action. They go up the road from the jail to the Opium Den and pull out a drowsy Swaggs, who is definitely not all there right now. Swaggs is under arrest for the suspicion of murder of Tyrith. He is carried, literally, off to jail.

Shortly thereafter, Izulde is released from jail and returns home, much to the relief of the voting public.

It has been a deadly and eventful night in London.

NIGHT THREE IS OVER. DAY FOUR HAS BEGUN. THERE ARE 13 ELIGIBLE VOTERS TODAY, SO YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST FOUR VOTES TO LYNCH. THE DEADLINE WILL BE AT 10 P.M. EST/7 P.M. PDT, BUT THE WRITEUP WILL COME MUCH LATER. NO VOTES WILL BE COUNTED AFTER THE DEADLINE.

YOU ALSO MUST CONSIDER WHETHER TO LYNCH SWAGGS OR NOT.

PMs COMING

[Lorena]

DOH!

Antmeister will have a kick out of that signature

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

DOH!

Antmeister will have a kick out of that signature

lol