2006 NHL Playoff Thread - Page 26

TreeInNewEngland · 06-15-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

There's a tree in Massachusetts that might disagree with you.

Tell me about it. I still have scars...

sterlingice · 06-17-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

There's a tree in Massachusetts that might disagree with you.

Must have missed that...

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bbor · 06-17-2006, 01:14 PM

I need to see a game 7 in this series.

Karim · 06-17-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

I need to see a game 7 in this series.

Why not? Who doesn't want hockey played on June 19th?

Seriously though, the season should be over before June.

Maple Leafs · 06-17-2006, 07:13 PM

Holy shit...

Eric Cole is going to play tonight?

General Mike · 06-17-2006, 07:30 PM

Go Canes! Viva Eric Cole.

GMO · 06-17-2006, 08:34 PM

So far 2-0 Edmonton, 2nd period.

st.cronin · 06-17-2006, 08:46 PM

If there are any die-hard Hurricane fans, they've got to be going crazy right now.

Wolfpack · 06-17-2006, 09:51 PM

We're around, but I stopped after that fourth goal. It's become rather clear who is the better team. Anyone care to doubt my doomsaying at this point?

The move to bring Cole back reeked of desperation, IMO. It said, "We don't have enough faith in our current players, so we're bringing back a guy coming off a severe neck injury in game six on the road to try to give us an edge." It backfired badly, particularly on that PP where Cole struggled mightily and ultimately allowed the puck to escape to set up the breakaway that lead to the penalty on Whitney.

I do not expect them to win on Monday. Edmonton is clearly manhandling them as they please at this point and it will be no different on Monday. Carolina is fading and Edmonton is getting stronger. Game seven will just be more of the same.

ISiddiqui · 06-17-2006, 09:53 PM

Yeah OILERS!! Game 7 baby!

General Mike · 06-17-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack

We're around, but I stopped after that fourth goal. It's become rather clear who is the better team. Anyone care to doubt my doomsaying at this point?

The move to bring Cole back reeked of desperation, IMO. It said, "We don't have enough faith in our current players, so we're bringing back a guy coming off a severe neck injury in game six on the road to try to give us an edge." It backfired badly, particularly on that PP where Cole struggled mightily and ultimately allowed the puck to escape to set up the breakaway that lead to the penalty on Whitney.

I do not expect them to win on Monday. Edmonton is clearly manhandling them as they please at this point and it will be no different on Monday. Carolina is fading and Edmonton is getting stronger. Game seven will just be more of the same.

If Weight could have played I don't think Laviolette would have brought Cole back, but he couldn't. I think bringing Cole in instead of some 4th line guy was the smart decision.

st.cronin · 06-17-2006, 10:00 PM

That was one of the most thorough ass-kickings I've seen in the playoffs, ever. Did the Hurricanes even get double digit shots on goal?

Wolfpack · 06-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Carolina did hang tough through the first period and Edmonton blocked a ton of shots that never make the scoresheet as a shot on goal, but once Wesley deflected in the first goal, it just seemed to deflate them. If it wasn't for Ward making a heroic stand in goal, this would have been so much worse (that three-on-one robbery was astounding and hellaciously lucky because the Oiler player had the entire net to choose from and he wound up putting it right into Cam's glove, basically).

It's readily obvious that Carolina cannot outhit Edmonton, so they have to outskate them, but at this point, they are so worn down, they can't beat Edmonton to the puck or any other place on the ice.

I still can't believe the punditry thought the series was over after game four. If you examined the series to that point, you'd recognize Carolina only dominated the last half of game one and all of game two. The rest of the time, they were hanging on by their fingernails. They got some good passing to set up both goals in game four, which, if they hadn't gone in, would have meant that Edmonton would be hoisting the Cup tonight. That 3-1 series lead was very deceptive.

henry296 · 06-17-2006, 10:29 PM

Nothing better in sports than Game 7. Looking forward to Monday night except for the fact that I have a 6:45 AM flight.

bbor · 06-17-2006, 10:52 PM

Yay game 7

SackAttack · 06-17-2006, 10:56 PM

Has an 8 seed ever won the Cup?

sterlingice · 06-17-2006, 11:15 PM

Woo! I can't wait for Monday. Hope I don't have to work too late

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Travis · 06-18-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Has an 8 seed ever won the Cup?

This is the first time an 8 seed has made the finals. Been odd how many Stanley Cup Final firsts there have been this year that don't seem all that "out there" (Pronger scoring the first ever penalty shot goal in the finals, Pisani getting the first OT shorthanded goal, Edmonton being the first 8 seed to make the finals).

As for game 7, it's still on Jussi's shoulders. He's played well so far, and I hope he carries it through one more game. Carolina will be much more effective next game, especially I would assume on the PP, so again, the Oilers have to play smart, stay out of the box and make it a 5 on 5 game as that's their best chance to win. Start trying to trade PP goals and all the momentum they've gained in the last couple games won't mean a thing.

Should be a helluva game, and I hope by now that even the most doubting give the Oilers their due no matter how the final game ends up.

EagleFan · 06-18-2006, 01:23 AM

Pulling for Carolina because I want to see a couple ex-Flyers win the Cup but I wouldn't mind either way as I have to give the Oilers' fans their due. Those fans are putting on a demonstration of what being a fan is about. I don't think I've heard a place as loud as that, even game 4 when they were losing by a goal it seemed so loud that you would have thought they were winning.

Chief Rum · 06-18-2006, 01:52 AM

You know, I'm completely witched around things. Render was right. The Western Conference just can't compete.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-18-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis

This is the first time an 8 seed has made the finals. Been odd how many Stanley Cup Final firsts there have been this year that don't seem all that "out there" (Pronger scoring the first ever penalty shot goal in the finals, Pisani getting the first OT shorthanded goal, Edmonton being the first 8 seed to make the finals).

As for game 7, it's still on Jussi's shoulders. He's played well so far, and I hope he carries it through one more game. Carolina will be much more effective next game, especially I would assume on the PP, so again, the Oilers have to play smart, stay out of the box and make it a 5 on 5 game as that's their best chance to win. Start trying to trade PP goals and all the momentum they've gained in the last couple games won't mean a thing.

Should be a helluva game, and I hope by now that even the most doubting give the Oilers their due no matter how the final game ends up.

While goaltending is always important, I reckon the Oilers could have won last night with any of us in goal. That game was pure domination. It reminded me of a playoff game a few years back between New Jersey and Tronto. I think it was a Game 6 or something, but Toronto only managed 6 shots on goal in the game. If you're getting 10 or less shots on goal during a game, odds are you're doing very little right.

The Hurricanes took a number of retailitory type penalties last night. They kept getting their hands and sticks up when an Oiler player came in to make a hit. It's pretty obvious the hits are taking their toll and after Torres destroyed Weight and Ward, the Oilers physical play is firmly implanted in their psyches. They are getting worn down and worn out.

Any lift the Hurricanes could have gotten from Erik Cole's return was eliminated in his first or second shift. He got hammered along the boards by Moreau and then looked very rusty on fanning on a good shot from the slot. It's good to see him playing, but it was a very desperate move.

I think things are dead even heading into Carolina. Edmonton have all the momentum, but Carolina will be playing at home and for the first time in a few games are playing a "must win" game. They should be playing with a whole new level of intensity. They had better. Given where the Oilers were after Games 2 and 4, they have to incredibly happy to be going back to Raleigh and making this a one game series.

Should be a hell of a game. I picked Edmonton to win it before the series began and am sticking with that prediction.

And, yes, I think it's quite obvious that the Western Conference can't compete at all with the East. They certainly aren't nowhere as physical. (<-- sarcasm).

Karim · 06-18-2006, 09:27 AM

Carolina wins. It says so right here:

"HISTORICAL VICTORY PROBABILITIES: Tied WWLWLL @ HHVVHV:
Considering win order; considering site order: The team winning Games 1-2, losing Game 3, winning Game 4, and losing Games 5-6 with Games 1-2 at home, Games 3-4 on the road, Game 5 at home, and Game 6 on the road (Carolina) has the following best-of-7 playoff Game 7 record through the 2006 NHL and NBA Semifinals:
Game 7 record, all best-of-7 sports, all rounds: 7-3 (.700)
Game 7 record, all best-of-7 sports, Finals round: 1-0 (1.000)
Game 7 record, NHL only, all rounds: 2-2 (.500)
Game 7 record, NHL only, Finals round: 1-0 (.500)
These records are drawn from the applicable 984 best-of-7 NHL, NBA, and MLB series played through the 2006 NBA and NHL Semifinals. Note in general that the greater the number of games or series fitting a particular situation, the greater the significance of the corresponding winning fraction: For example, 0.800 is far more likely to come closer to the true winning fraction in a given situation when the corresponding win-loss record is 400-100 rather than 4-1."

Karim · 06-18-2006, 09:29 AM

dola,

That 1-0 NHL finals record was when the Rangers beat the Canucks in 7 after going up 3-1 in the series. Carolina can easily win this thing as it's basically a pick'em.

bbor · 06-18-2006, 01:17 PM

Well...now that i asked for a game 7,and it happened...now i must do this.

I need overtime in game 7!

Fidatelo · 06-18-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Well...now that i asked for a game 7,and it happened...now i must do this.

I need overtime in game 7!

When this thing started I told my buddies that I didn't care who won, just that it go to a 7th game in triple-OT. Only 6 more periods to go!

sterlingice · 06-18-2006, 09:08 PM

I would kill for that

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Maple Leafs · 06-18-2006, 09:30 PM

That'd be great... except when it ends on an OT goal scored 5-on-3 thanks to a puck over the glass delay of game penalty.

Travis · 06-18-2006, 09:43 PM

The three things I hope they really look at after this season is the puck over the glass, how many penalties are drawn by offensive players holding defenders sticks to simulate hooks and the whole theory that if a goalies entire glove is over the goal line, and the puck is in the glove, that the puck is in the net.

As for game seven, no OT. I'm not sure my nerves can take that at this point.

Wolfpack · 06-18-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

The three things I hope they really look at after this season is the puck over the glass, how many penalties are drawn by offensive players holding defenders sticks to simulate hooks and the whole theory that if a goalies entire glove is over the goal line, and the puck is in the glove, that the puck is in the net.

As for game seven, no OT. I'm not sure my nerves can take that at this point.

I'll stand in agreement, which of course will mean it'll be triple-OT and be settled on a cheap turnover because everyone's beginning to fall asleep at that point.

Karim · 06-19-2006, 10:59 AM

I heard Bettman is considering instituting a delay-of-game penalty for the goalie freezing the puck with his glove. He even said so on HNIC. He also likes the puck over the glass penalty.

Doesn't the rules committee now determine rule changes or does the Commish have some sort of veto?

Maple Leafs · 06-19-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Karim

I heard Bettman is considering instituting a delay-of-game penalty for the goalie freezing the puck with his glove. He even said so on HNIC. He also likes the puck over the glass penalty.

I thought he said that he wanted to expand the "no line change" rule to include goalies freezing the puck, but not to hand out a penalty. Actually, I think there is a delay of game rule for goalies that go out of their way to freeze the puck (i.e. dive into the corner after it, etc.) It's almost never called, because goalies know not to do it and can actually control that, unlike somebody accidentally slapping a puck an inch over the glass.

gstelmack · 06-19-2006, 11:16 AM

Keep the delay of game for over the glass (the point behind it and the no line change after icing is to not allow the defense an easy out when they get beat). Start calling cross-checking instead of goalie interference when a defender shoves a skater into the goalie (getting sick of seeing that one). Institute post-game reviews for diving that'll let you suspend a player for a game (so when, say, a player gets high-sticked, then shoves his stick into the chest of another player, and that player grabs his face even though the stick stayed well away from his face, you can do something to the actor grabbing his face).

Maple Leafs · 06-19-2006, 11:36 AM

I'd call the puck over the glass the same way they call icing -- no line change, but no penalty. It just doesn't make sense that if I shoot a puck over the glass I go to the penalty box, but if I shoot it down the ice I don't. It's the exact same play.

As for players going into the crease, agree with calling a penalty on the defence. But I'd also like to see a reminder that players have to try to avoid the goalie whenever they can, even if they're pushed. Too many guys have mastered the art of skating hard at the net, being brushed against by a defenceman, and then plowing into the goalie at full speed. "But I was pushed!"

Maple Leafs · 06-19-2006, 11:39 AM

Oh, and for the love of god, stop calling coincidental minors on dives. I can understand that sometimes one guy can commit a penalty and the other guy can dive and you need to call both. But every time? Was there a single powerplay due to a diving penalty all year? Or did they always take the easy way out and nail both guys?

JonInMiddleGA · 06-19-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Start calling cross-checking instead of goalie interference when a defender shoves a skater into the goalie (getting sick of seeing that one).

Agreed on that one.

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Originally Posted by travis

how many penalties are drawn by offensive players holding defenders sticks to simulate hooks

The holding of sticks is probably the one thing I'd like to see cracked down on the most. At least at the minor league level (which I saw a lot more of in person this year & could watch away from the puck a lot more), it's an epidemic that borders on the absurd at times.

Karim · 06-19-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I thought he said that he wanted to expand the "no line change" rule to include goalies freezing the puck, but not to hand out a penalty.

You're probably right. I just know steam was coming out of my ears when I heard it.

Draft Dodger · 06-19-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

This is the first time an 8 seed has made the finals. Been odd how many Stanley Cup Final firsts there have been this year that don't seem all that "out there" (Pronger scoring the first ever penalty shot goal in the finals, Pisani getting the first OT shorthanded goal, Edmonton being the first 8 seed to make the finals).

wow, I didn't know that about the 8 seeds (well, all of them, actually, but still).

Looking forward to the game. Fun to watch when I don't really have a preference about who wins. I think I lean a little bit towards pulling for the Oilers, but I really think MacTavish is a dick and I don't want to hear about Carolina choking all summer. Then again, I don't really want to see a team from the south be the champs for 3 years running. And, since Carolina really should still be the Whalers, I shift back to Edmonton. I mean, after all, it's been 13 years since a Canadian team won (and that was all McSorley's fault anyway)...but then what is the Canadian media going to be like if the Oilers win.

any chance this could end up in a draw?

Fidatelo · 06-19-2006, 07:54 PM

MacT better have some sort of magic speech prepared for intermission or Edmonton is D-U-N done.

gstelmack · 06-19-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

MacT better have some sort of magic speech prepared for intermission or Edmonton is D-U-N done.

Carolina has shown they are capable of giving Edmonton life back. But not if Carolina keeps skating and hitting like they are. Nice to see them giving some of it back to Edmonton.

And I appreciate the officials taking the time to make that call at the end of period 1. People will still debate and fight over it I'm sure (less so if Carolina wins the game), but as a Carolina fan I'm happy that they took the time to examine all the evidence before coming up with a ruling.

Fidatelo · 06-19-2006, 08:30 PM

The more of this series I watch the more it amazes me how well Edmonton has done with the collection of clowns they have on defence. After Pronger they have absolutely no one that should be getting time on the first or second d-line of a playoff team.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-19-2006, 09:41 PM

DEE-FENSE

Dr. Sak · 06-19-2006, 09:41 PM

Pronger hits the net about 5% of the time.

Galaxy · 06-19-2006, 09:52 PM

Damn....I feel bad for the Oiler fans.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-19-2006, 09:53 PM

Woooooooooo !

JonInMiddleGA · 06-19-2006, 09:56 PM

... Away, away, away down south in Dixie

Dr. Sak · 06-19-2006, 09:58 PM

Thank you hockey for a wonderful season...3 months till training camp

General Mike · 06-19-2006, 10:03 PM

6 days til the Draft, whoooooooooooo!

Dr. Sak · 06-19-2006, 10:05 PM

Is it too much to ask for someone to deck Pierre during an interview?

Logan · 06-19-2006, 10:09 PM

And Ray Whitney drops an f-bomb!

EDIT: If I were to ever curse on national TV, I would be sure to say something cooler than "fuckin radical."

Galaxy · 06-19-2006, 10:14 PM

FCC is raiding the arena and arresting Whitney...

06-17-2006, 01:14 PM	#1253
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	I need to see a game 7 in this series. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-17-2006, 07:13 PM	#1255
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Holy shit... Eric Cole is going to play tonight? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-17-2006, 08:46 PM	#1258
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	If there are any die-hard Hurricane fans, they've got to be going crazy right now. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-17-2006, 09:53 PM	#1260
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah OILERS!! Game 7 baby! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

06-17-2006, 10:00 PM	#1262
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	That was one of the most thorough ass-kickings I've seen in the playoffs, ever. Did the Hurricanes even get double digit shots on goal? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-17-2006, 07:30 PM	#1256
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Go Canes! Viva Eric Cole.

06-17-2006, 08:34 PM	#1257
GMO Mascot Join Date: May 2003	So far 2-0 Edmonton, 2nd period.

06-17-2006, 09:51 PM	#1259
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	We're around, but I stopped after that fourth goal. It's become rather clear who is the better team. Anyone care to doubt my doomsaying at this point? The move to bring Cole back reeked of desperation, IMO. It said, "We don't have enough faith in our current players, so we're bringing back a guy coming off a severe neck injury in game six on the road to try to give us an edge." It backfired badly, particularly on that PP where Cole struggled mightily and ultimately allowed the puck to escape to set up the breakaway that lead to the penalty on Whitney. I do not expect them to win on Monday. Edmonton is clearly manhandling them as they please at this point and it will be no different on Monday. Carolina is fading and Edmonton is getting stronger. Game seven will just be more of the same.

06-17-2006, 10:29 PM	#1263
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	Carolina did hang tough through the first period and Edmonton blocked a ton of shots that never make the scoresheet as a shot on goal, but once Wesley deflected in the first goal, it just seemed to deflate them. If it wasn't for Ward making a heroic stand in goal, this would have been so much worse (that three-on-one robbery was astounding and hellaciously lucky because the Oiler player had the entire net to choose from and he wound up putting it right into Cam's glove, basically). It's readily obvious that Carolina cannot outhit Edmonton, so they have to outskate them, but at this point, they are so worn down, they can't beat Edmonton to the puck or any other place on the ice. I still can't believe the punditry thought the series was over after game four. If you examined the series to that point, you'd recognize Carolina only dominated the last half of game one and all of game two. The rest of the time, they were hanging on by their fingernails. They got some good passing to set up both goals in game four, which, if they hadn't gone in, would have meant that Edmonton would be hoisting the Cup tonight. That 3-1 series lead was very deceptive.

06-17-2006, 10:29 PM	#1264
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Nothing better in sports than Game 7. Looking forward to Monday night except for the fact that I have a 6:45 AM flight. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

06-17-2006, 10:52 PM	#1265
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Yay game 7 __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-17-2006, 10:56 PM	#1266
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Has an 8 seed ever won the Cup?

06-17-2006, 11:15 PM	#1267
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Woo! I can't wait for Monday. Hope I don't have to work too late SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-18-2006, 01:23 AM	#1269
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Pulling for Carolina because I want to see a couple ex-Flyers win the Cup but I wouldn't mind either way as I have to give the Oilers' fans their due. Those fans are putting on a demonstration of what being a fan is about. I don't think I've heard a place as loud as that, even game 4 when they were losing by a goal it seemed so loud that you would have thought they were winning.

06-18-2006, 01:52 AM	#1270
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	You know, I'm completely witched around things. Render was right. The Western Conference just can't compete. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

06-18-2006, 09:27 AM	#1272
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	Carolina wins. It says so right here: "HISTORICAL VICTORY PROBABILITIES: Tied WWLWLL @ HHVVHV: Considering win order; considering site order: The team winning Games 1-2, losing Game 3, winning Game 4, and losing Games 5-6 with Games 1-2 at home, Games 3-4 on the road, Game 5 at home, and Game 6 on the road (Carolina) has the following best-of-7 playoff Game 7 record through the 2006 NHL and NBA Semifinals: Game 7 record, all best-of-7 sports, all rounds: 7-3 (.700) Game 7 record, all best-of-7 sports, Finals round: 1-0 (1.000) Game 7 record, NHL only, all rounds: 2-2 (.500) Game 7 record, NHL only, Finals round: 1-0 (.500) These records are drawn from the applicable 984 best-of-7 NHL, NBA, and MLB series played through the 2006 NBA and NHL Semifinals. Note in general that the greater the number of games or series fitting a particular situation, the greater the significance of the corresponding winning fraction: For example, 0.800 is far more likely to come closer to the true winning fraction in a given situation when the corresponding win-loss record is 400-100 rather than 4-1."

06-18-2006, 09:29 AM	#1273
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	dola, That 1-0 NHL finals record was when the Rangers beat the Canucks in 7 after going up 3-1 in the series. Carolina can easily win this thing as it's basically a pick'em.

06-18-2006, 01:17 PM	#1274
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Well...now that i asked for a game 7,and it happened...now i must do this. I need overtime in game 7! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-18-2006, 09:08 PM	#1276
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I would kill for that SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-18-2006, 09:30 PM	#1277
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	That'd be great... except when it ends on an OT goal scored 5-on-3 thanks to a puck over the glass delay of game penalty. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-18-2006, 09:43 PM	#1278
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	The three things I hope they really look at after this season is the puck over the glass, how many penalties are drawn by offensive players holding defenders sticks to simulate hooks and the whole theory that if a goalies entire glove is over the goal line, and the puck is in the glove, that the puck is in the net. As for game seven, no OT. I'm not sure my nerves can take that at this point.

06-19-2006, 10:59 AM	#1280
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	I heard Bettman is considering instituting a delay-of-game penalty for the goalie freezing the puck with his glove. He even said so on HNIC. He also likes the puck over the glass penalty. Doesn't the rules committee now determine rule changes or does the Commish have some sort of veto?

06-19-2006, 11:16 AM	#1282
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Keep the delay of game for over the glass (the point behind it and the no line change after icing is to not allow the defense an easy out when they get beat). Start calling cross-checking instead of goalie interference when a defender shoves a skater into the goalie (getting sick of seeing that one). Institute post-game reviews for diving that'll let you suspend a player for a game (so when, say, a player gets high-sticked, then shoves his stick into the chest of another player, and that player grabs his face even though the stick stayed well away from his face, you can do something to the actor grabbing his face). __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

06-19-2006, 11:36 AM	#1283
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I'd call the puck over the glass the same way they call icing -- no line change, but no penalty. It just doesn't make sense that if I shoot a puck over the glass I go to the penalty box, but if I shoot it down the ice I don't. It's the exact same play. As for players going into the crease, agree with calling a penalty on the defence. But I'd also like to see a reminder that players have to try to avoid the goalie whenever they can, even if they're pushed. Too many guys have mastered the art of skating hard at the net, being brushed against by a defenceman, and then plowing into the goalie at full speed. "But I was pushed!" __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-19-2006, 11:39 AM	#1284
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Oh, and for the love of god, stop calling coincidental minors on dives. I can understand that sometimes one guy can commit a penalty and the other guy can dive and you need to call both. But every time? Was there a single powerplay due to a diving penalty all year? Or did they always take the easy way out and nail both guys? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-19-2006, 07:54 PM	#1288
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	MacT better have some sort of magic speech prepared for intermission or Edmonton is D-U-N done. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-19-2006, 08:30 PM	#1290
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	The more of this series I watch the more it amazes me how well Edmonton has done with the collection of clowns they have on defence. After Pronger they have absolutely no one that should be getting time on the first or second d-line of a playoff team. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-19-2006, 09:41 PM	#1291
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	DEE-FENSE __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-19-2006, 09:41 PM	#1292
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Pronger hits the net about 5% of the time.

06-19-2006, 09:52 PM	#1293
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Damn....I feel bad for the Oiler fans. Last edited by Galaxy : 06-19-2006 at 09:53 PM.

06-19-2006, 09:53 PM	#1294
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Woooooooooo ! __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-19-2006, 09:56 PM	#1295
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	... Away, away, away down south in Dixie __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-19-2006, 09:58 PM	#1296
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Thank you hockey for a wonderful season...3 months till training camp

06-19-2006, 10:03 PM	#1297
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	6 days til the Draft, whoooooooooooo!

06-19-2006, 10:05 PM	#1298
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Is it too much to ask for someone to deck Pierre during an interview?