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Old 03-01-2007, 10:26 AM   #1251
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I may have missed it but it seems like there wasn't much pressure put on Marathoner...

My vote is on him and will remain on him, unless someone gives some really compelling case for someone else.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:28 AM   #1252
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Dola...

and I don't buy the bodyguard defense from him or others. A muscle magazine does not fit the profile of an ex-special ops member to me. I had anticipated that defense, but I still think the smart money is on him being mafia muscle, with a chance that he is a simple (independent) thug.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:30 AM   #1253
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I tend to agree with swaggs. I also think it is important for the real bodyguard not to reveal.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:31 AM   #1254
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:33 AM   #1255
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If the true bodyguard were to come out, couldn't he/she just buy a bulletproof vest to protect him/herself?
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:33 AM   #1256
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Swaggs, I'm thinking I'll be issuing an arrest warrant either way, depending on the results of the search. What I'm not sure of is how I learn the results of the search.

If the results of the search on you look positive, I would expect to issue an arrest warrant for Marathoner.

If the results of the search on you look negative, I would expect to issue an arrest warrant for you.

I've also received a request from a detective in the last 10.5 hours to search Marathoner's home. I'll have a window of time to honor that if people feel that is needed. It could be a good validation for moving from arrest to convict, depending on the results. That also assumes I would still be holding this position at midnight to issue a 2nd search warrant.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:34 AM   #1257
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This looks like a good spot to post in this game. Hi, everyone.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:41 AM   #1258
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my comment on Blade is nothing more than a guess. the statement before that wasn't.

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oy vey.

In that case I suppose not being a jerk demands that I

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

and hmmm

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To me that indicates the exact obvious...evil knows who is good, and who is evil. They also dont want to be in the spotlight unless its necessary(like to save their mafia boss). What your saying, if i follow, is he swapped off a guy who turned out to be good(did that person get lynched?) to someone we have yet to kill. To me that means he knew the person would come up good and didnt want to have to answer why he voted him

I still read DT's vote switch as a result of ntn's comment. But I could be mistaken of course. I don't see what he's done that warrants a vote right now.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:44 AM   #1259
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If the true bodyguard were to come out, couldn't he/she just buy a bulletproof vest to protect him/herself?

I'm not sure it is so cut and dry. I think that mechanic would throw the game off somewhat.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:28 AM   #1260
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Votes as of Post #1259:
Marathoner - Swaggs (1140), Lathum (1254)
DaddyTorgo - Blade6119 (1219), Narcizo (1240)
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:30 AM   #1261
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dammit. My big long post was eaten by the interweb. I'll summarize
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:30 AM   #1262
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Also, I wanted to put this out there - if people are unsatisfied with me in the role of judge I would encourage them to work towards an alternate candidate earlier rather than later.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:34 AM   #1263
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path is correct...my vote switch was a result of ntn expressing trust in me. I didn't want to be a jerk and keep my vote on him in light of that...that's pretty "bad manners" if you will.

honestly I don't see what i've done to inspire such rage blade, aside from not believing you. Aside from having a flair for those dramatical last-second theatrics, I felt that switching my vote would enable me to get more information about 3 players in the game (cronin, you, and hoops) as opposed to keeping my vote where it was (on swaggs actually) where it was essentially a throwaway. My interactions with you seemed benign, but hoops made a decent case that there could be more to you than that, and at worse I figured we'd lose the jewler but maybe preserve the banker/doctor or someone else important.

I think there are certainly others who are deserving of more scrutiny than myself at this point in time.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:45 AM   #1264
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Hoops, I have not done my day action yet so I have not added anybody to my cot. Barkeep and Blade remain the only two in there so far. I am think i am going to preform my action soon though.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:52 AM   #1265
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Here is a scenario that I thought was an interesting one which I thought about while eating lunch. Swaggs claims to be the janitor who can check people's garbage every other day. Well he did find some interesting stuff about Marathoner...or so we all believe. He wants to clear his name (and rightfully so) so he wants the search warrant issued for himself and even offers for it to be as soon as possible.

That warrant would most likely come up clean and that would clear Swaggs' name, or would it? That would allow him to gain a lot of people's trust and at the same time allow him to join the mafia if he is offered to do so. So now that he is cleared by the Judge & Detective everyone thinks he's a good guy, but he would really be working with the mafia by doing the checking they want to do. Even if he does check a mob members' trash he would just make something up with what he found.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:59 AM   #1266
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Here is a scenario that I thought was an interesting one which I thought about while eating lunch. Swaggs claims to be the janitor who can check people's garbage every other day. Well he did find some interesting stuff about Marathoner...or so we all believe. He wants to clear his name (and rightfully so) so he wants the search warrant issued for himself and even offers for it to be as soon as possible.

That warrant would most likely come up clean and that would clear Swaggs' name, or would it? That would allow him to gain a lot of people's trust and at the same time allow him to join the mafia if he is offered to do so. So now that he is cleared by the Judge & Detective everyone thinks he's a good guy, but he would really be working with the mafia by doing the checking they want to do. Even if he does check a mob members' trash he would just make something up with what he found.

I find this unlikely. Most of the time it is predetermined who can and can't be converted and they have no knowledge before hand.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:02 PM   #1267
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But wouldn't someone who makes a little as he says be tempted by the money that mafia could have?
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:03 PM   #1268
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NOT A WEREWOLF POST:


Over on the Off Topic board, I am currently hosting the 150th I'm With Stupid! If you've ever played, why not try one more entry for old times sake? If you've never played, this is a great chance to get in! Just pm me your answers to 7 questions - no need to do research or anything! I'll even post a linky to the thready:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=57272


Thanks to several of you playing this game who have already responded!
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:04 PM   #1269
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Let's see how Swaggs checks out first before we start speculatin' too much on what might happen to him tomorrow or the next day.

Way I see it, I don't have many I trust at the moment, but if Swaggs entered my home, rifled through my stuff, and didn't try to make me out to be a basket case on event of the pills/magazines after I unwittingly supported the mob boss, then he moves up my list. Especially if the search comes up clean.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:09 PM   #1270
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NOT A WEREWOLF POST:


Over on the Off Topic board, I am currently hosting the 150th I'm With Stupid! If you've ever played, why not try one more entry for old times sake? If you've never played, this is a great chance to get in! Just pm me your answers to 7 questions - no need to do research or anything! I'll even post a linky to the thready:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=57272


Thanks to several of you playing this game who have already responded!




In other news, here's a tip:


Don;t play in a pm heavy WW game and run an IWS and set up hosting a WW game all at the same time. Your pm box explodes.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:13 PM   #1271
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In other news, here's a tip:


Don;t play in a pm heavy WW game and run an IWS and set up hosting a WW game all at the same time. Your pm box explodes.

HA!!

did you like my aneversiry question?
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:13 PM   #1272
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In other news, here's a tip:


Don;t play in a pm heavy WW game and run an IWS and set up hosting a WW game all at the same time. Your pm box explodes.

I don't know anything about PM box explosions <.<
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:24 PM   #1273
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HA!!

did you like my aneversiry question?

Its one of many that made me chuckle
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:39 PM   #1274
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:17 PM   #1275
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I'm surprised there is so little talk since I was here late last night/early this morning. Marathoner isn't looking too hoog. I don't suppose I will get someone to clear things up before I leave for work in in hour and a half will I?

Anyway, I will be around for about an hour, so if anyone wants to talk the politics side of things here and has any questions for me, feel free and ask. I have been upfront about everything in this game, except for what I choose to hold back to protect my customers.

For the record, the mafia boss only attempted to bet with me once, and it was a actually a very small bet that I ended up returning because we went in a different direction than he wanted to go.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:17 PM   #1276
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hoog == good. Wow...
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:38 PM   #1277
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Well, I have to go to work and won't be home til way past the deadline.

With only 2 guys getting votes so far and very little info to go on. I am going to vote for DT rather than Marathoner. Simply comes down to the fact that at this point I have more trust in Blade than Swaggs.

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Old 03-01-2007, 02:44 PM   #1278
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I have less time here. There really doesn't seem to have been anything to discuss further here. DT has denied that he's a bad guy and that's about it. I don't like leaving my vote without a chance of retraction but I don't have a choice.

If anyone would like to ask me something please do so and I'll try and answer tomorrow, presuming I'm still around.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:50 PM   #1279
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I'm basically waiting to see if a detective picks up the search warrant. I can't issue another one to look at Marathoner, so if they are waiting for me to do that they will have to wait until after the vote. So I would strongly encourage one of the detectives to check out Swaggs so we can begin the process (whatever that is) of getting information out in the open.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:59 PM   #1280
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I still read DT's vote switch as a result of ntn's comment. But I could be mistaken of course. I don't see what he's done that warrants a vote right now.

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path is correct...my vote switch was a result of ntn expressing trust in me. I didn't want to be a jerk and keep my vote on him in light of that...that's pretty "bad manners" if you will.

honestly I don't see what i've done to inspire such rage blade, aside from not believing you. Aside from having a flair for those dramatical last-second theatrics, I felt that switching my vote would enable me to get more information about 3 players in the game (cronin, you, and hoops) as opposed to keeping my vote where it was (on swaggs actually) where it was essentially a throwaway. My interactions with you seemed benign, but hoops made a decent case that there could be more to you than that, and at worse I figured we'd lose the jewler but maybe preserve the banker/doctor or someone else important.

I think there are certainly others who are deserving of more scrutiny than myself at this point in time.
Did you read my like 15 posts of quotes explaining why i distrust you? Another factor, which i havent really touched on, is i firmly believe that at least 1 other evil voted me in an attempt to save cronin. So that leave you, hoops, swaggs, and bsak. I tend to trust hoops, for reasons ive laid out. Bsak i frankly dont know about, so i dont want to damn him on a whim. Swaggs has done a role reveal, though one im shaky on being good, but he has consistently been trying to work with us today. You, you have done nothing but say its not me, and the fact you were the only person who should have trusted me through all of yesterday and didnt adds to the heat.

This post in particular screamed wolf to me, a post you made to hoopsguy:
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well I know a warrant on me would be wasted. You won't find anything interesting. Just me being stupid and swayed by your crazy theory hoops.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:09 PM   #1281
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I'm out of time, so I need to vote. I want to get more information on Marathoner, but that won't happen in time. He had a couple driveby votes earlier in the game that came at what I thought were key times, so he was already on my radar a bit. And then Swaggs xame out with his reveal, which I tend to buy at the moment. So I'm going with Marathoner. Blade, your theory is interesting, but I need to see more evidence rather than just conjecture to support it as it is right now.

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Old 03-01-2007, 03:10 PM   #1282
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So, your getting a lot of PMs? Interesting
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:10 PM   #1283
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BETTING IS OVER FOR THE DAY!!!

Thansk to those of you in on the fun. Tonight's bet will be on the Blazers!!!

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Old 03-01-2007, 03:19 PM   #1284
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I'm out of time, so I need to vote. I want to get more information on Marathoner, but that won't happen in time. He had a couple driveby votes earlier in the game that came at what I thought were key times, so he was already on my radar a bit. And then Swaggs xame out with his reveal, which I tend to buy at the moment. So I'm going with Marathoner. Blade, your theory is interesting, but I need to see more evidence rather than just conjecture to support it as it is right now.

VOTE MARATHONER
And what evidence do you have on marathoner? I have visited DT in person, he was a late vote swap to save the mafia boss, has a clear record of having similar targets as cronin even back on day one, and we have multiple interactions between the two that dont exist with other players cronin was around.

Marathoner, you have?? What? That swaggs found body-building magazines? I think your more likely to kill a bodyguard then a mafioso...by the way, i wouldnt trust swaggs' role reveal until hoops' investigation is run. He revealed it right after his vote to save cronin suddenly looked terrible and he needed an out. Im not saying hes evil, but im not sure why everyone has taken his reveal as fact right now.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:26 PM   #1285
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And what evidence do you have on marathoner? I have visited DT in person, he was a late vote swap to save the mafia boss, has a clear record of having similar targets as cronin even back on day one, and we have multiple interactions between the two that dont exist with other players cronin was around.

Marathoner, you have?? What? That swaggs found body-building magazines? I think your more likely to kill a bodyguard then a mafioso...by the way, i wouldnt trust swaggs' role reveal until hoops' investigation is run. He revealed it right after his vote to save cronin suddenly looked terrible and he needed an out. Im not saying hes evil, but im not sure why everyone has taken his reveal as fact right now.

It's just a gut feeling right now. I don't leap to trusting you because I have seen your throw shit at the wall until something sticks act before, and I view it as rather hit and miss. Nothing you have said about your encounter with DT says to me mafia more than Swaggs' statements about Marathoner's trash. And Marathoner vibes with me personally because of his hit-and-run/UTR-styled voting patterns so far, while DT has been very active and out in the open.

Things can change, of course--there isn't a little of information out there right now. If more information on the warrants came back, then that would help a lot, but it doesn't look like they will before I leave.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:31 PM   #1286
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It's just a gut feeling right now. I don't leap to trusting you because I have seen your throw shit at the wall until something sticks act before, and I view it as rather hit and miss. Nothing you have said about your encounter with DT says to me mafia more than Swaggs' statements about Marathoner's trash. And Marathoner vibes with me personally because of his hit-and-run/UTR-styled voting patterns so far, while DT has been very active and out in the open.

Things can change, of course--there isn't a little of information out there right now. If more information on the warrants came back, then that would help a lot, but it doesn't look like they will before I leave.
You know, i really get pissed off when people say that about me. I dont throw shit at the wall, i have suspects and go after them the same as you. I said for the first two days quite clearly cronin was my first, my last, my every suspect. Now im saying its DT...im not throwing shit at the walls, and ill thank you to never say that to me again.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:42 PM   #1287
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You know, i really get pissed off when people say that about me. I dont throw shit at the wall, i have suspects and go after them the same as you. I said for the first two days quite clearly cronin was my first, my last, my every suspect. Now im saying its DT...im not throwing shit at the walls, and ill thank you to never say that to me again.

I'll describe it how I want. I don't deny that you can and have gotten results. I will also, however, ask you to not ask me not believe my own eyes and experience watching you pinion numerous people in numerous games and being dead wrong. We all have our theories, and if you think you get yours right every time, I got news for you. You don't.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:01 PM   #1288
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Police support of new judge low?

The spirits were high around town when a new judge was elected, however you have to start to wonder if the current judge had the backing of the city's police force. Word has it that no warrants signed by the judge have yet been picked up by any cop. I'm not sure what to make of it, but this reporter feels if the mafia is to be wiped out of this town, the law enforcement officials need to work together!

Mafia fix on NBA game?

The NBA denies any allegations that the Big City mafia have had any influence on tonight's Blazers vs Bobcats game. Local officials begun to have suspicions based on a large amount of money that has been placed on the game from unknown betters. "I'm not saying the fix is on, but maybe these betters just know something that I don't", stated a local gaming official.

Where is Tyrith, where are my glasses?

The top stories today have been the ongoing discussions of who the lynch mob should target next. With the mob's success last night, it appears there might be no slowing them down. Early candidates appear to be DaddyTorgo who evidentally has a gold ring of Sauron, and Marathoner that likes looking at Arnold S. magazines perhaps a bit too much. There appears to be very little talk however about where Tyrith might be. Evidentally he seems to just be misplaced as my glasses are. Hopefully its not too late to save his life!
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:02 PM   #1289
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Poor Tyrith
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:03 PM   #1290
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Lathum or Anxiety, got a COT?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:09 PM   #1291
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Lathum or Anxiety, got a COT?

right now I trust blade and myself, thats pretty much it.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:12 PM   #1292
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and i guess Tyrith if he is still alive
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:13 PM   #1293
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Who did you vote for judge Lathum?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:14 PM   #1294
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Who did you vote for judge Lathum?

hoops, why the inquisition?
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:20 PM   #1295
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Why are you asking Hoopsguy? And I am bored, and you are the only other person on.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:24 PM   #1296
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Why are you asking Hoopsguy? And I am bored, and you are the only other person on.

I VOTED for hoops.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:37 PM   #1297
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Lathum or Anxiety, got a COT?

Blade. Me. hoops sorta.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:39 PM   #1298
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Based on his kidnapping I sort of trust anxiety, i think that would be a stupid way to convert someone so he is probably ok
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:41 PM   #1299
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right now I trust blade and myself, thats pretty much it.

Why would you not trust me? I was abducted yesterday, that seems pretty set in stone. I mentioned that they wanted me to work for the boss before I escaped. Why would I mention anythign that sounds like conversion if I had been converted? I;d want to keep that out of the conversation. Likewise, why mention the crime at all, since its only self reported? Because if I report it, and say nothing of anything that smells of conversion, there's still a chance that someone might start crying "Convert, convert!"

If I were converted, my actions would be very risky, with little reward. That's the evidence you have, so it seems you should at least trust me somewhat.

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Old 03-01-2007, 04:41 PM   #1300
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